What about Courtney Murphy from Stony Brook. Had extra 5th year because or redshirt . Played 4 games and that helped her set goals and points record . Should games played in redshirt years not count either ?lLax101 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:46 pm In my opinion its pretty simple for the sport of lacrosse. If you choose to play an extra year because of Covid, the 7 game Covid season should be eliminated from your career stats. It does not exist because you choice to take a full year instead. The fact that some players have extended seasons because they make the playoffs and maybe even the final four should not matter. They earned those extra games as part of the same year 4 seasons. You get 4 years to compete. Total number of games may vary depending on the teams success in any given year, but there is no possible reason why a player should get more than 4 years and include the partial Covid year. Just my opinion. There is a D1 basketball player this year who was only 4 points or so away from breaking the all time single season scoring record set by Pete Maverich decades ago. A record that most think will never be broken. PM set his record in I think 3 years of play by the way. The player this year had 5 FULL seasons because he had an extra Covid year. Its BS from a records/stats standpoint. The same is true for all winter and fall athletes who got 5 full years. Again, just my opinion.
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Agreed!!njbill wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:20 pm Too many variables in my book. Some sports include postseason stats in their record keeping. Others, like baseball and football, keep their main stats on a regular season basis only. Come to think of it, give Reggie back his sack record! 21 sacks in a 12 game (strike shortened) season. No one else has come close to that.
In wlax, some changes that have produced more goals are developments in stick technology, the shot clock, and the elimination of shooting space fouls if the shot was taken simultaneously with a whistle. Should records set under those rules be kept separately from those from the wooden stick era? Not in my view.
In football, the rule changes in the passing game are probably more extreme than in any other sport, virtually all of which have favored the quarterbacks and the receivers. Should Tom Brady’s records be discounted because they were achieved under rules that were much more favorable than those that applied to his predecessors? I’m not a Brady fan at all, but my answer is “no.”
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Post season. Cummings and Treanor had two of the highest if I recall correctly.Bart wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:01 pmWhat are the circumstance of those players in the record books? Are these more career games due to play in the post season? Continuation of the season they are in?wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:20 pmWhat circumstances? The only one I can really think of is the shot clock, and I think there is something in the record book that mentions that it was introduced in 2017.
If it’s about “extra games from 2020” that point is actually invalid IMO. I made a post about this last year. There are a number of players in the record books, who had traditional 4 year careers, and who still played more total career games than players who had the 5-6 games from the canceled 2020 season in addition to their 4 years.
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Physical game at Hopkins v SB only 1 yellow so farwlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:05 pmPost season. Cummings and Treanor had two of the highest if I recall correctly.Bart wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:01 pmWhat are the circumstance of those players in the record books? Are these more career games due to play in the post season? Continuation of the season they are in?wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:20 pmWhat circumstances? The only one I can really think of is the shot clock, and I think there is something in the record book that mentions that it was introduced in 2017.
If it’s about “extra games from 2020” that point is actually invalid IMO. I made a post about this last year. There are a number of players in the record books, who had traditional 4 year careers, and who still played more total career games than players who had the 5-6 games from the canceled 2020 season in addition to their 4 years.
3-2 SB 11 to go 2nd quarter
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Can watch it here.
https://www.centennialconference.tv/hopkinssports/
https://www.centennialconference.tv/hopkinssports/
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Thanks. I tune in to a tight game, and the best player on SBU takes a really dumb yellow.DMac wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:52 pm Can watch it here.
https://www.centennialconference.tv/hopkinssports/
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Speaking of the centennial conference - good matchup today between Gettysburg & TCNJDMac wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:52 pm Can watch it here.
https://www.centennialconference.tv/hopkinssports/
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I hold my breath every time JH tries to clear the ball .Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:09 pmThanks. I tune in to a tight game, and the best player on SBU takes a really dumb yellow.DMac wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:52 pm Can watch it here.
https://www.centennialconference.tv/hopkinssports/
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First. Don’t care about the records. Was just an observation from last night. Count them or not, really don’t care.wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:05 pmPost season. Cummings and Treanor had two of the highest if I recall correctly.Bart wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:01 pmWhat are the circumstance of those players in the record books? Are these more career games due to play in the post season? Continuation of the season they are in?wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:20 pmWhat circumstances? The only one I can really think of is the shot clock, and I think there is something in the record book that mentions that it was introduced in 2017.
If it’s about “extra games from 2020” that point is actually invalid IMO. I made a post about this last year. There are a number of players in the record books, who had traditional 4 year careers, and who still played more total career games than players who had the 5-6 games from the canceled 2020 season in addition to their 4 years.
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Second, you are comparing apples to oranges. A gift of eligibility vs post season play that a team earned. Sorry don’t see it the same but that’s my opinion.
Someone brought up a player with a medical redshirt. Those redshirts have a set of criteria that need to be met. How many of these current players would have met that criteria (games played) in 2020 that would have allowed them to redshirt? So while I don’t really care about the records I think the ruling in 2020 was short sighted and hurt more athletes in terms of opportunities than helped. I’m sure not many will agree but that’s how I see it.
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Stony Brook 6 Hopkins 6 4:10 to play in 3rd
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Agree 100%.Bart wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:21 pmFirst. Don’t care about the records. Was just an observation from last night. Count them or not, really don’t care.wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:05 pmPost season. Cummings and Treanor had two of the highest if I recall correctly.Bart wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:01 pmWhat are the circumstance of those players in the record books? Are these more career games due to play in the post season? Continuation of the season they are in?wlaxphan20 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:20 pmWhat circumstances? The only one I can really think of is the shot clock, and I think there is something in the record book that mentions that it was introduced in 2017.
If it’s about “extra games from 2020” that point is actually invalid IMO. I made a post about this last year. There are a number of players in the record books, who had traditional 4 year careers, and who still played more total career games than players who had the 5-6 games from the canceled 2020 season in addition to their 4 years.
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Second, you are comparing apples to oranges. A gift of eligibility vs post season play that a team earned. Sorry don’t see it the same but that’s my opinion.
Someone brought up a player with a medical redshirt. Those redshirts have a set of criteria that need to be met. How many of these current players would have met that criteria (games played) in 2020 that would have allowed them to redshirt? So while I don’t really care about the records I think the ruling in 2020 was short sighted and hurt more athletes in terms of opportunities than helped. I’m sure not many will agree but that’s how I see it.
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8-6 going into the 4th...SB scored on a Free Positionvonly to get it called back for a early start on JHU. Subsequent FP failed...
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While I feel like SB will win game Joe has to be shocked at poor shooting and TOs from his team today. JH goalie has made some good saves too.
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Masera scores 2 in a row for SBU to tie it at 8 with 11:15 to go
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What is the call when a pass to no one domes a player in the head?
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Masera with her 3rd in a row and her 5th of the game puts SBU up9-8 with 8:53 to play in the 4th.
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9-9 with 7:25 to play
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SBU 10 Hop 9 with 4:52 to go. SBU ball.