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DMac
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Pretty impressive shooting from Cuse v Duke today. 26 shots from Cuse, 23 on cage.
Adamson 1 shot, 1 goal. Smith 2 shots, 1 goal. Cockerille 2 shots, 2 goals. Ward 5
shots, 3 goals. ET 5 shots, 3 goals. Carney 7 shots, 5 goals. Pretty darn good shooting
in my book.
Draws ended up being 17-12 in favor of Duke, thought that might have been a whole
lot more lopsided than it turned out to be. Thought the young HC make a good/smart
move sending Maddy Baxter out to take the draws in the 2nd half. Tall, fast, good GB
girl muddied things up a bit for Jenner. Goodale came up with 5 DCs, Adamson and
Cockerille 2 each. Pretty big deal.
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Really impressed with Kayla 2.0 (year two). Has her players playing well in all phases. The (apparently) on the fly draw adjustment was impressive.

Still a long way to go with some big hills to climb, but the Orange look like the best team to me. Now we know why she put together that tough schedule.

Stay away from the injury bug!!!!
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njbill wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:21 pm Really impressed with Kayla 2.0 (year two). Has her players playing well in all phases. The (apparently) on the fly draw adjustment was impressive.

Still a long way to go with some big hills to climb, but the Orange look like the best team to me. Now we know why she put together that tough schedule.

Stay away from the injury bug!!!!
I agree to an extent in terms of offensive talent and experience. But UNC's depth is insane. right now UNC's overall resume and wins are more impressive if they beat NW i think they will and should be the clear cut #1 team. Neither team may lose again until their late season showdown.
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I reserve the right to change my mind. :lol:

I am actually rooting for the teams in this order: NU (b/c of Scane), UNC, Syr, but I really like them all.
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njbill wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:21 pm Really impressed with Kayla 2.0 (year two). Has her players playing well in all phases. The (apparently) on the fly draw adjustment was impressive.
Have been impressed as well. When you're at the games you can see her interacting with her players when they come off the field. Good play or bad play she's coaching them. Not surprisingly, she really seems to get along with her players...hugs, smiles, high fives. It's nice to see. Can't get past the thought of these girls watching her play in the World Tourney, they've got to have a lot of respect for her.
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DMac wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:38 pm
njbill wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:21 pm Really impressed with Kayla 2.0 (year two). Has her players playing well in all phases. The (apparently) on the fly draw adjustment was impressive.
Have been impressed as well. When you're at the games you can see her interacting with her players when they come off the field. Good play or bad play she's coaching them. Not surprisingly, she really seems to get along with her players...hugs, smiles, high fives. It's nice to see. Can't get past the thought of these girls watching her play in the World Tourney, they've got to have a lot of respect for her.
This is bleeding into recruiting as well. Heck of a 2024 class coming in.
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Our Now Went elsewhere poster said that KT wouldn't be a good coach because she lacks presence of command. Just one example of many brilliant posts we got from him. Thank you internet gods for leading him down the
path to the other side where the grass is greener.
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DMac wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:16 pm Our Now Went elsewhere poster said that KT wouldn't be a good coach because she lacks presence of command. Just one example of many brilliant posts we got from him. Thank you internet gods for leading him down the
path to the other side where the grass is greener.
He still has his Twitter account and a few weeks ago criticized Unleashed for posting a defense tutorial with Lizzie Colson because Gabby Rosenzweig scored on her when MD played Duke in the 2021 tournament. He then got dunked on by a few of the bigger media personalities in the sport for being an anonymous account and later deleted the tweet. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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jff97 wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:01 pm
DMac wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:16 pm Our Now Went elsewhere poster said that KT wouldn't be a good coach because she lacks presence of command. Just one example of many brilliant posts we got from him. Thank you internet gods for leading him down the
path to the other side where the grass is greener.
He still has his Twitter account and a few weeks ago criticized Unleashed for posting a defense tutorial with Lizzie Colson because Gabby Rosenzweig scored on her when MD played Duke in the 2021 tournament. He then got dunked on by a few of the bigger media personalities in the sport for being an anonymous account and later deleted the tweet. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cringey references to Scane's full given name and sad pandering to coaches on twitter as well
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cltlax wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:15 am
jff97 wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:01 pm
DMac wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:16 pm Our Now Went elsewhere poster said that KT wouldn't be a good coach because she lacks presence of command. Just one example of many brilliant posts we got from him. Thank you internet gods for leading him down the
path to the other side where the grass is greener.
He still has his Twitter account and a few weeks ago criticized Unleashed for posting a defense tutorial with Lizzie Colson because Gabby Rosenzweig scored on her when MD played Duke in the 2021 tournament. He then got dunked on by a few of the bigger media personalities in the sport for being an anonymous account and later deleted the tweet. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cringey references to Scane's full given name and sad pandering to coaches on twitter as well
Yeah it's weird and depressing. I'm just kind of happy he's not on here, especially because I'm an MD fan and he would've been popping champagne after their early season struggles :lol: :lol: . Now he's on the train of Cuse shouldn't be #1.
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laxer12 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:40 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:31 pm
intheknow247 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:25 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:10 pm
intheknow247 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:18 pm
laxer12 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:46 am
intheknow247 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:25 am
laxer12 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:08 am
intheknow247 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:53 am
Fischer wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:27 am
DMac wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:44 am Mashewske going down is not a good thing, didn't look as if it's a speedy recovery type injury either.
What's that do to this Cuse team?
Well, it’s definitely not good. I believe I said it after the Binghamton game that they should take her out and put in a secondary draw girl for some game experience.
Kate is an excellent draw specialist., but they have won games even when she was losing the draw so I think if they can cause turnovers they’ll be fine
def need girls with experience taking draws for future or god forbid, an injury. unfortunately, now Cuse is stuck with no experience on the draw and Adamson, who will do good job on draw, needs to be on the field for O reps. her taking draws will run her ragged. kt needed to be working on options regardless.
In what way will it run Adamson, "ragged"?? There are innumerable examples of a team's top draw specialist also being an important offensive and/or defensive player for their respective teams. Some players that pop up in my mind are Sam Apuzzo, Taylor Cummings, Marie McCool, Charlotte North... oh, and Kayla Treanor. I don't think Treanor believed that doing the draw controls hindered her ability to perform on the offensive side of the ball.
Apuzzo played attack only and didn't have to sub off, same with North and Treanor (work load much different). Cummings and McCool are unreal athletes. If you think Adamson is in that same athletic category I would get your eyes checked. So yes, she will be dead tired if she has to carry that load.

Treanor had Adamson running to box as well to switch sticks rather than doing it with a defender already on the field. None of the afore mentioned players would switch off through the box (if they switched it was with a defender on the field - North did this religiously).
Well, as I'm sure you know, Adamson also plays attack only. I'm sure Treanor would make the adjustment to have a defender switch sticks with Adamson after SU wins a draw control, if she were to stay on the field (she normally does) for that offensive possession. But yeah, way to insult Olivia Adamson's athletic ability -- that was big of you.
No insult to Adamson, she is a fine athlete - just not Cummings or North. And she plays midfield, not attack. She is one of the kids that plays O only so when Cuse looses the ball on O, she is sprinting to the box to get a D mid sub on. And when she took several draws after Mashewske injury, she had draw stick in hand and her reg stick was awaiting for her to switch over at the box (ND draw taker does same thing). but you knew that already...........thats what I love about you, your attention to detail!
Adamson is 100% an attack player. Syracuse plays 5 D on defense and 5 A on offense with two middies staying on the field - so the extra D and extra A just switch up on change of possession.
correct - but since she is inserted as the O mid, she has to get on and off the field which is much different than staying on as an attacker.
She is an attack player and is playing an attack position. Your mistake is you are using terminology from men's lacrosse that simply does not apply and is not used in women's lacrosse.
Thank you! Finally someone that knows what they're talking about.
If you ask Kayla or any other coaches that run these positions at other schools and you both would learn you are wrong. Swing mids (O and D) are another term used by coaches. Just because they started as guys terms doesn't mean women don't used them.
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Syracuse Number 1? Is this largely due to Gait's recruits? It seems he recently turned things around on the men's side in recruiting in a big way.
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jff97 wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:09 pm
cltlax wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:15 am
jff97 wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:01 pm
DMac wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:16 pm Our Now Went elsewhere poster said that KT wouldn't be a good coach because she lacks presence of command. Just one example of many brilliant posts we got from him. Thank you internet gods for leading him down the
path to the other side where the grass is greener.
He still has his Twitter account and a few weeks ago criticized Unleashed for posting a defense tutorial with Lizzie Colson because Gabby Rosenzweig scored on her when MD played Duke in the 2021 tournament. He then got dunked on by a few of the bigger media personalities in the sport for being an anonymous account and later deleted the tweet. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cringey references to Scane's full given name and sad pandering to coaches on twitter as well
Yeah it's weird and depressing. I'm just kind of happy he's not on here, especially because I'm an MD fan and he would've been popping champagne after their early season struggles :lol: :lol: . Now he's on the train of Cuse shouldn't be #1.
I was on a self-imposed sabbatical - mostly a darkness retreat - reconnecting with my inner self, when the guy with many monikers decided to leave. But, I did see in the Penalty Box that he called himself a troll and apologized for being a troll for all these years. I lol'd considering the number of people that were sent to the Penalty Box for calling him what he always intended to be - a troll.

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44WeWantMore wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:05 pm Syracuse Number 1? Is this largely due to Gait's recruits? It seems he recently turned things around on the men's side in recruiting in a big way.
Gait's influence on the way Syracuse plays (Treanor can't say enough good things about the influence he had on her) can still be seen on the field, and yes many of his recruits but let's not short the job KT has done to date. Remember these girls watched the exhibition their coach put on in the World Games....impressive to say the least.
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She got the job at the end of the 2021 season, right? So her first recruits were the ones who committed on or after Sept. 1, 2021 which were kids then entering their junior year in HS, that is, HS class of 2023. So her first class of recruits won't get to campus until this coming fall and won't first play until next spring. Thus, 100% of the kids on the team now (excluding any transfers which I'm too lazy to look up) were recruited by Gait.
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intheknow247 wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:06 pm
laxer12 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:40 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:31 pm
intheknow247 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:25 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:10 pm
intheknow247 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:18 pm
laxer12 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:46 am
intheknow247 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:25 am
laxer12 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:08 am
intheknow247 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:53 am
Fischer wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:27 am
DMac wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:44 am Mashewske going down is not a good thing, didn't look as if it's a speedy recovery type injury either.
What's that do to this Cuse team?
Well, it’s definitely not good. I believe I said it after the Binghamton game that they should take her out and put in a secondary draw girl for some game experience.
Kate is an excellent draw specialist., but they have won games even when she was losing the draw so I think if they can cause turnovers they’ll be fine
def need girls with experience taking draws for future or god forbid, an injury. unfortunately, now Cuse is stuck with no experience on the draw and Adamson, who will do good job on draw, needs to be on the field for O reps. her taking draws will run her ragged. kt needed to be working on options regardless.
In what way will it run Adamson, "ragged"?? There are innumerable examples of a team's top draw specialist also being an important offensive and/or defensive player for their respective teams. Some players that pop up in my mind are Sam Apuzzo, Taylor Cummings, Marie McCool, Charlotte North... oh, and Kayla Treanor. I don't think Treanor believed that doing the draw controls hindered her ability to perform on the offensive side of the ball.
Apuzzo played attack only and didn't have to sub off, same with North and Treanor (work load much different). Cummings and McCool are unreal athletes. If you think Adamson is in that same athletic category I would get your eyes checked. So yes, she will be dead tired if she has to carry that load.

Treanor had Adamson running to box as well to switch sticks rather than doing it with a defender already on the field. None of the afore mentioned players would switch off through the box (if they switched it was with a defender on the field - North did this religiously).
Well, as I'm sure you know, Adamson also plays attack only. I'm sure Treanor would make the adjustment to have a defender switch sticks with Adamson after SU wins a draw control, if she were to stay on the field (she normally does) for that offensive possession. But yeah, way to insult Olivia Adamson's athletic ability -- that was big of you.
No insult to Adamson, she is a fine athlete - just not Cummings or North. And she plays midfield, not attack. She is one of the kids that plays O only so when Cuse looses the ball on O, she is sprinting to the box to get a D mid sub on. And when she took several draws after Mashewske injury, she had draw stick in hand and her reg stick was awaiting for her to switch over at the box (ND draw taker does same thing). but you knew that already...........thats what I love about you, your attention to detail!
Adamson is 100% an attack player. Syracuse plays 5 D on defense and 5 A on offense with two middies staying on the field - so the extra D and extra A just switch up on change of possession.
correct - but since she is inserted as the O mid, she has to get on and off the field which is much different than staying on as an attacker.
She is an attack player and is playing an attack position. Your mistake is you are using terminology from men's lacrosse that simply does not apply and is not used in women's lacrosse.
Thank you! Finally someone that knows what they're talking about.
If you ask Kayla or any other coaches that run these positions at other schools and you both would learn you are wrong. Swing mids (O and D) are another term used by coaches. Just because they started as guys terms doesn't mean women don't used them.
I don’t know the men’s game, but in women’s these are called “A Mid” and “D mid” or A middie/D middie
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intheknow247 wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:06 pm
laxer12 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:40 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:31 pm
intheknow247 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:25 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:10 pm
intheknow247 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:18 pm
laxer12 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:46 am
intheknow247 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:25 am
laxer12 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:08 am
intheknow247 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:53 am
Fischer wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:27 am
DMac wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:44 am Mashewske going down is not a good thing, didn't look as if it's a speedy recovery type injury either.
What's that do to this Cuse team?
Well, it’s definitely not good. I believe I said it after the Binghamton game that they should take her out and put in a secondary draw girl for some game experience.
Kate is an excellent draw specialist., but they have won games even when she was losing the draw so I think if they can cause turnovers they’ll be fine
def need girls with experience taking draws for future or god forbid, an injury. unfortunately, now Cuse is stuck with no experience on the draw and Adamson, who will do good job on draw, needs to be on the field for O reps. her taking draws will run her ragged. kt needed to be working on options regardless.
In what way will it run Adamson, "ragged"?? There are innumerable examples of a team's top draw specialist also being an important offensive and/or defensive player for their respective teams. Some players that pop up in my mind are Sam Apuzzo, Taylor Cummings, Marie McCool, Charlotte North... oh, and Kayla Treanor. I don't think Treanor believed that doing the draw controls hindered her ability to perform on the offensive side of the ball.
Apuzzo played attack only and didn't have to sub off, same with North and Treanor (work load much different). Cummings and McCool are unreal athletes. If you think Adamson is in that same athletic category I would get your eyes checked. So yes, she will be dead tired if she has to carry that load.

Treanor had Adamson running to box as well to switch sticks rather than doing it with a defender already on the field. None of the afore mentioned players would switch off through the box (if they switched it was with a defender on the field - North did this religiously).
Well, as I'm sure you know, Adamson also plays attack only. I'm sure Treanor would make the adjustment to have a defender switch sticks with Adamson after SU wins a draw control, if she were to stay on the field (she normally does) for that offensive possession. But yeah, way to insult Olivia Adamson's athletic ability -- that was big of you.
No insult to Adamson, she is a fine athlete - just not Cummings or North. And she plays midfield, not attack. She is one of the kids that plays O only so when Cuse looses the ball on O, she is sprinting to the box to get a D mid sub on. And when she took several draws after Mashewske injury, she had draw stick in hand and her reg stick was awaiting for her to switch over at the box (ND draw taker does same thing). but you knew that already...........thats what I love about you, your attention to detail!
Adamson is 100% an attack player. Syracuse plays 5 D on defense and 5 A on offense with two middies staying on the field - so the extra D and extra A just switch up on change of possession.
correct - but since she is inserted as the O mid, she has to get on and off the field which is much different than staying on as an attacker.
She is an attack player and is playing an attack position. Your mistake is you are using terminology from men's lacrosse that simply does not apply and is not used in women's lacrosse.
Thank you! Finally someone that knows what they're talking about.
If you ask Kayla or any other coaches that run these positions at other schools and you both would learn you are wrong. Swing mids (O and D) are another term used by coaches. Just because they started as guys terms doesn't mean women don't used them.
I just got off the phone with Kayla and she has no idea what your are talking about. She was like, Olivia Adamson is clearly an attack player not midfielder or swing mid? Kayla says you are a silly goose!
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Did she say to say hello to me?
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44WeWantMore wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:05 pm Syracuse Number 1? Is this largely due to Gait's recruits? It seems he recently turned things around on the men's side in recruiting in a big way.
How about we give them both credit. Yes a number of the recruits were Gary's, but you didn't see a mass exodus when he left and Kayla seems to have put her stamp on the Team. Cuse deserves to be #1 until somebody knocks them off the pedestal.
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DMac wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:54 pm Did she say to say hello to me?
Not by name, but she did mention that she had restocked the gummies recently.
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