I don't have an answer - just Monday morning QB'ing. My point was more that, when the stakes get that high, it looks really really bad. When you ask to sit at the Big Boy table, you are going to be held to a higher standard....cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:36 amWhat precautions could have been taken??? If word leaks out of the potential threat then mass panic breaks out. The Bush administration had the intell that something was up involving airplanes. I'm not defending their lack of not doing something to try and understand the sensitive nature of how do you accomplish that goal? IMO they just never comprehended the extent of the co-ordination and the dedication these people had to achieving their objective. We learned our lesson the hard way.HooDat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:27 amespecially when the one you miss ends up with airplanes crashing into iconic US buildings full of people, or auguring into fields in Pennsylvania.....cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:25 am the one you miss is the one that comes back to bite you in the ass
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Did you realize that some of the people involved with the plane attack were also involved with the truck bomb in basement of the WTC a few years earlier?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:36 amWhat precautions could have been taken??? If word leaks out of the potential threat then mass panic breaks out. The Bush administration had the intell that something was up involving airplanes. I'm not defending their lack of not doing something to try and understand the sensitive nature of how do you accomplish that goal? IMO they just never comprehended the extent of the co-ordination and the dedication these people had to achieving their objective. We learned our lesson the hard way.HooDat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:27 amespecially when the one you miss ends up with airplanes crashing into iconic US buildings full of people, or auguring into fields in Pennsylvania.....cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:25 am the one you miss is the one that comes back to bite you in the ass
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We had good reason & opportunity to take out OBL after the embassy bombings & the Cole.
Instead, we lobbed a couple cruise missiles at an empty training camp in the desert.
9-11 taught us never again. ...Predator/Reaper drone & Hellfire missiles helped.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense ... istan.html
This weekends Taliban garden party in Kabul has been postponed indefinitely.
Admiral John Kirby is THE best govt spokesperson in my memory (imo)
Instead, we lobbed a couple cruise missiles at an empty training camp in the desert.
9-11 taught us never again. ...Predator/Reaper drone & Hellfire missiles helped.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense ... istan.html
This weekends Taliban garden party in Kabul has been postponed indefinitely.
Admiral John Kirby is THE best govt spokesperson in my memory (imo)
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Yes I do. Our intell people knew something was up involving planes. IDK how you connect the dots to stop it. I would like to believe they didn't ignore the intell they had. They didn't have enough pieces of the puzzle to figure out the where, when and how. The fact our law enforcement agencies were not communicating with one another did not help. Thanks to Jamie Gorelick and her wall made the problem worse.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:34 pmDid you realize that some of the people involved with the plane attack were also involved with the truck bomb in basement of the WTC a few years earlier?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:36 amWhat precautions could have been taken??? If word leaks out of the potential threat then mass panic breaks out. The Bush administration had the intell that something was up involving airplanes. I'm not defending their lack of not doing something to try and understand the sensitive nature of how do you accomplish that goal? IMO they just never comprehended the extent of the co-ordination and the dedication these people had to achieving their objective. We learned our lesson the hard way.HooDat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:27 amespecially when the one you miss ends up with airplanes crashing into iconic US buildings full of people, or auguring into fields in Pennsylvania.....cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:25 am the one you miss is the one that comes back to bite you in the ass
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I really don’t blame anyone. Terrorists exploited a weakness. We have since made changes. Live and learn as they say. Today we have much better awareness and still living under post 9/11 changes. Lots of threats are neutralized everyday, but if we aren’t perfect, it’s a failure.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:49 amYes I do. Our intell people knew something was up involving planes. IDK how you connect the dots to stop it. I would like to believe they didn't ignore the intell they had. They didn't have enough pieces of the puzzle to figure out the where, when and how. The fact our law enforcement agencies were not communicating with one another did not help. Thanks to Jamie Gorelick and her wall made the problem worse.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:34 pmDid you realize that some of the people involved with the plane attack were also involved with the truck bomb in basement of the WTC a few years earlier?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:36 amWhat precautions could have been taken??? If word leaks out of the potential threat then mass panic breaks out. The Bush administration had the intell that something was up involving airplanes. I'm not defending their lack of not doing something to try and understand the sensitive nature of how do you accomplish that goal? IMO they just never comprehended the extent of the co-ordination and the dedication these people had to achieving their objective. We learned our lesson the hard way.HooDat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:27 amespecially when the one you miss ends up with airplanes crashing into iconic US buildings full of people, or auguring into fields in Pennsylvania.....cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:25 am the one you miss is the one that comes back to bite you in the ass
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Kirby is indeed very good. Very smart, very credible. Measured. But clear.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:42 pm We had good reason & opportunity to take out OBL after the embassy bombings & the Cole.
Instead, we lobbed a couple cruise missiles at an empty training camp in the desert.
9-11 taught us never again. ...Predator/Reaper drone & Hellfire missiles helped.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense ... istan.html
This weekends Taliban garden party in Kabul has been postponed indefinitely.
Admiral John Kirby is THE best govt spokesperson in my memory (imo)
Has he yet been asked about the Defense Dept wiping the phones of departing Trump appointees, despite FOIA requests, despite requirements to preserve?
I wouldn't want to have to explain that...presumably he'll say it's being investigated.
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+1. i agree with you 100%Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:25 amI really don’t blame anyone. Terrorists exploited a weakness. We have since made changes. Live and learn as they say. Today we have much better awareness and still living under post 9/11 changes. Lots of threats are neutralized everyday, but if we aren’t perfect, it’s a failure.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:49 amYes I do. Our intell people knew something was up involving planes. IDK how you connect the dots to stop it. I would like to believe they didn't ignore the intell they had. They didn't have enough pieces of the puzzle to figure out the where, when and how. The fact our law enforcement agencies were not communicating with one another did not help. Thanks to Jamie Gorelick and her wall made the problem worse.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:34 pmDid you realize that some of the people involved with the plane attack were also involved with the truck bomb in basement of the WTC a few years earlier?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:36 amWhat precautions could have been taken??? If word leaks out of the potential threat then mass panic breaks out. The Bush administration had the intell that something was up involving airplanes. I'm not defending their lack of not doing something to try and understand the sensitive nature of how do you accomplish that goal? IMO they just never comprehended the extent of the co-ordination and the dedication these people had to achieving their objective. We learned our lesson the hard way.HooDat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:27 amespecially when the one you miss ends up with airplanes crashing into iconic US buildings full of people, or auguring into fields in Pennsylvania.....cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:25 am the one you miss is the one that comes back to bite you in the ass
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Airport security, and 75-85% of DHS in general is a joke, kabuki theatre and redundant (if we had well functioning operations and oversight). I don’t feel any safer than I did pre 9/11 in airports or flying. I’m sure many think it’s elevated safety and acidity but it’s not. It’s just more complexity, cooks in the kitchen and additional regulatory capture.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:25 amI really don’t blame anyone. Terrorists exploited a weakness. We have since made changes. Live and learn as they say. Today we have much better awareness and still living under post 9/11 changes. Lots of threats are neutralized everyday, but if we aren’t perfect, it’s a failure.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:49 amYes I do. Our intell people knew something was up involving planes. IDK how you connect the dots to stop it. I would like to believe they didn't ignore the intell they had. They didn't have enough pieces of the puzzle to figure out the where, when and how. The fact our law enforcement agencies were not communicating with one another did not help. Thanks to Jamie Gorelick and her wall made the problem worse.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:34 pmDid you realize that some of the people involved with the plane attack were also involved with the truck bomb in basement of the WTC a few years earlier?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:36 amWhat precautions could have been taken??? If word leaks out of the potential threat then mass panic breaks out. The Bush administration had the intell that something was up involving airplanes. I'm not defending their lack of not doing something to try and understand the sensitive nature of how do you accomplish that goal? IMO they just never comprehended the extent of the co-ordination and the dedication these people had to achieving their objective. We learned our lesson the hard way.HooDat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:27 amespecially when the one you miss ends up with airplanes crashing into iconic US buildings full of people, or auguring into fields in Pennsylvania.....cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:25 am the one you miss is the one that comes back to bite you in the ass
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Jake Tapper@jaketapper
Between infrastructure, gun safety, CHIPs, and the PACT Act, all passed in less than a year, I can't recall a period of so many big and substantive bipartisan accomplishments for Congress.
With a 50/50 Senate.
7:54 PM · Aug 2, 2022·TweetDeck
Between infrastructure, gun safety, CHIPs, and the PACT Act, all passed in less than a year, I can't recall a period of so many big and substantive bipartisan accomplishments for Congress.
With a 50/50 Senate.
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Jerry Poopypants joins a litany of democrats, including AOC and Manchin, declining to encourage a 2024 run by Biden:
https://news.yahoo.com/two-top-house-de ... 11593.html
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so what happens when Biden decides he wants to run? He keeps saying he is running. Is that why various bigwigs loyal to the DNC are shading him? Trying to give him the hint that they don't want him?
How do you primary a sitting president? What would the debates look like?
I am not sure I recall any sitting president running for re-election against a challenger in his own party. Taft is the only one every right?
How do you primary a sitting president? What would the debates look like?
I am not sure I recall any sitting president running for re-election against a challenger in his own party. Taft is the only one every right?
STILL somewhere back in the day....
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Carter was challenged by Teddy Kennedy I believe.HooDat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:24 pm so what happens when Biden decides he wants to run? He keeps saying he is running. Is that why various bigwigs loyal to the DNC are shading him? Trying to give him the hint that they don't want him?
How do you primary a sitting president? What would the debates look like?
I am not sure I recall any sitting president running for re-election against a challenger in his own party. Taft is the only one every right?
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To a game of flip cup on a yacht?RedFromMI wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:20 pmCarter was challenged by Teddy Kennedy I believe.HooDat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:24 pm so what happens when Biden decides he wants to run? He keeps saying he is running. Is that why various bigwigs loyal to the DNC are shading him? Trying to give him the hint that they don't want him?
How do you primary a sitting president? What would the debates look like?
I am not sure I recall any sitting president running for re-election against a challenger in his own party. Taft is the only one every right?
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Inflation Reduction Act
Burning Pits Veterans Care Bill
Semiconductor Manufacturing Bill
Gun Control Bill
Infrastructure Bill
American Rescue Plan Act
10 million jobs created
$1.5 trillion in budget deficit reduction
al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri killed
Ended 20-year U.S. war in Afghanistan
That is arguably the best first two years of any President in nearly six decades.
DocBarrister
Burning Pits Veterans Care Bill
Semiconductor Manufacturing Bill
Gun Control Bill
Infrastructure Bill
American Rescue Plan Act
10 million jobs created
$1.5 trillion in budget deficit reduction
al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri killed
Ended 20-year U.S. war in Afghanistan
That is arguably the best first two years of any President in nearly six decades.
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Hell, by those standards...you shoulda loved the hell outta some Trump.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:04 pm Inflation Reduction Act
Burning Pits Veterans Care Bill
Semiconductor Manufacturing Bill
Gun Control Bill
Infrastructure Bill
American Rescue Plan Act
10 million jobs created
$1.5 trillion in budget deficit reduction
al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri killed
Ended 20-year U.S. war in Afghanistan
That is arguably the best first two years of any President in nearly six decades.
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What is it about Trump that you like?youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:56 pmHell, by those standards...you shoulda loved the hell outta some Trump.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:04 pm Inflation Reduction Act
Burning Pits Veterans Care Bill
Semiconductor Manufacturing Bill
Gun Control Bill
Infrastructure Bill
American Rescue Plan Act
10 million jobs created
$1.5 trillion in budget deficit reduction
al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri killed
Ended 20-year U.S. war in Afghanistan
That is arguably the best first two years of any President in nearly six decades.
DocBarrister
That he is a racist?
That he mocks disabled people?
That he is a pathological liar?
That he is corrupt?
That he practically l***** the balls of Vladimir Putin?
That he had a romance with murderous dictator, Kim Jong Un?
That he lied about a once-in-a-century pandemic?
That he blew open a massive increase in the federal budget deficit?
That he failed to get anywhere near passing an infrastructure bill?
That he attempted a coup on January 6, 2021?
That he is a credibly accused rapist?
Or … all of the above?
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President Biden reinstated the largest oil and gas lease sale in U.S. history, essentially steamrolling the need for environmental review, by signing the Inflation Reduction Act into law on Tuesday.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/bi ... ation-bill
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Fox now supports Biden???a fan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:53 am President Biden reinstated the largest oil and gas lease sale in U.S. history, essentially steamrolling the need for environmental review, by signing the Inflation Reduction Act into law on Tuesday.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/bi ... ation-bill