All Things Russia & Ukraine

[tech37]

Biden's Reckless Words Underscore the Dangers of the U.S.'s Use of Ukraine As a Proxy War
As grave of a threat as deliberate war is, unintended escalation from miscommunication and misperception can be as bad. Biden is the perfect vessel for such risks.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/bidens ... rscore?s=w

[dislaxxic]

Wonder what our erstwhile MAGATs thought when Ronnie Rayguns called Russia "The Evil Empire" or George Bush's "Axis of Evil" comment...

There are more audiences for words like Biden's. Like the Russia people for one. The Russia military? The Pro-Russia conservatives in the 101st Fighting Keyboarders can't keep their outrage straight.

Thank GOD Donald trump is not in power now. Can you IMAGINE what would be going on? Believing that "this would've never happened" is pure idiocy...much like MAGA Nation.

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[Peter Brown]

Wonder what our erstwhile MAGATs thought when Ronnie Rayguns called Russia "The Evil Empire" or George Bush's "Axis of Evil" comment...

There are more audiences for words like Biden's. Like the Russia people for one. The Russia military? The Pro-Russia conservatives in the 101st Fighting Keyboarders can't keep their outrage straight.

Thank GOD Donald trump is not in power now. Can you IMAGINE what would be going on? Believing that "this would've never happened" is pure idiocy...much like MAGA Nation.

Well, inflation and violent crime couldn’t be much worse, so…

[seacoaster]

Biden's Reckless Words Underscore the Dangers of the U.S.'s Use of Ukraine As a Proxy War
As grave of a threat as deliberate war is, unintended escalation from miscommunication and misperception can be as bad. Biden is the perfect vessel for such risks.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/bidens ... rscore?s=w

More pearl clutching from the Biden Bad Crowd. His rhetoric over the weekend will have no effect on the course of the war, or the decisions that he and his national security team -- and our allies in NATO -- will do. All of these articles warning of the terrible consequences of this brief riff neglect to mention that Biden is not a lone wolf; he acts with deliberation with the advice of Blinken and State, Austin and Defense, Sullivan, and with input from allies. It's basically a made-up bit of drama -- perfect for Glenn.

[Peter Brown]

Biden's Reckless Words Underscore the Dangers of the U.S.'s Use of Ukraine As a Proxy War
As grave of a threat as deliberate war is, unintended escalation from miscommunication and misperception can be as bad. Biden is the perfect vessel for such risks.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/bidens ... rscore?s=w

More pearl clutching from the Biden Bad Crowd. His rhetoric over the weekend will have no effect on the course of the war, or the decisions that he and his national security team -- and our allies in NATO -- will do. All of these articles warning of the terrible consequences of this brief riff neglect to mention that Biden is not a lone wolf; he acts with deliberation with the advice of Blinken and State, Austin and Defense, Sullivan, and with input from allies. It's basically a made-up bit of drama -- perfect for Glenn.

Richard Haass, that noted *Biden Bad* Democrat who heads the Council on Foreign Relations, said Biden had "made a difficult situation more difficult and a dangerous situation more dangerous."

"Putin will see it as confirmation of what he's believed all along," Haass said on Twitter. "Bad lapse in discipline that runs risk of extending the scope and duration of the war."

Francois Heisbourg of the *Biden Bad* International Institute for Strategic Studies said American leaders would do better not to "shoot off their mouths."

[Essexfenwick]

DC swamp approved AP..

WASHINGTON (AP) — With the last nine, unscripted words of an impassioned speech about Russia’s aggression in Ukraine, “President Joe Biden created a troubling distraction, undermining his effectiveness as he returned home to face restive Americans who strongly disapprove of his performance on issues that matter most to them.

His comment that Russia’s Vladimir Putin “cannot remain in power” — an assertion that his aides were forced to quickly clean up — overshadowed his larger message of solidifying the Western coalition that’s confronting Moscow.

It punctuated another frustrating moment for an administration that’s struggled to regain its footing — and the American electorate’s support — in the face of an ongoing pandemic, escalating inflation and an increasingly complicated foreign policy crisis that raises the specter of nuclear conflict.”

The JoeTards who voted for this loser are really the stupidest people in the United States.

1 year in and …

1) empty shelves
2) talk of food shortages
3) more Covid deaths after armed with a vaccine
4) hyper inflation
5) war in Europe
6) serious talk of nuclear war with Russia

This is what happens when Trump isn’t running things.

[tech37]

Biden's Reckless Words Underscore the Dangers of the U.S.'s Use of Ukraine As a Proxy War
As grave of a threat as deliberate war is, unintended escalation from miscommunication and misperception can be as bad. Biden is the perfect vessel for such risks.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/bidens ... rscore?s=w

More pearl clutching from the Biden Bad Crowd. His rhetoric over the weekend will have no effect on the course of the war, or the decisions that he and his national security team -- and our allies in NATO -- will do. All of these articles warning of the terrible consequences of this brief riff neglect to mention that Biden is not a lone wolf; he acts with deliberation with the advice of Blinken and State, Austin and Defense, Sullivan, and with input from allies. It's basically a made-up bit of drama -- perfect for Glenn.

Richard Haass, that noted *Biden Bad* Democrat who heads the Council on Foreign Relations, said Biden had "made a difficult situation more difficult and a dangerous situation more dangerous."

"Putin will see it as confirmation of what he's believed all along," Haass said on Twitter. "Bad lapse in discipline that runs risk of extending the scope and duration of the war."

Francois Heisbourg of the *Biden Bad* International Institute for Strategic Studies said American leaders would do better not to "shoot off their mouths."

+1

Regarding Haas's statement, more importantly, the propaganda Putin can now utilize to convince many Russian people that just maybe he's correct.

"Biden Bad" = silly. Some of us have stated that until recently Biden has done pretty well re Ukraine. Guess seacoaster ignored that.

[Essexfenwick]

It’s not “bad Biden”

It’s “Biden with Dementia” and “White liberals with predictable and scientifically consistent mental illness.”

Us science majors noticed these things that others can’t process.

[seacoaster]

Biden's Reckless Words Underscore the Dangers of the U.S.'s Use of Ukraine As a Proxy War
As grave of a threat as deliberate war is, unintended escalation from miscommunication and misperception can be as bad. Biden is the perfect vessel for such risks.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/bidens ... rscore?s=w

More pearl clutching from the Biden Bad Crowd. His rhetoric over the weekend will have no effect on the course of the war, or the decisions that he and his national security team -- and our allies in NATO -- will do. All of these articles warning of the terrible consequences of this brief riff neglect to mention that Biden is not a lone wolf; he acts with deliberation with the advice of Blinken and State, Austin and Defense, Sullivan, and with input from allies. It's basically a made-up bit of drama -- perfect for Glenn.

Richard Haass, that noted *Biden Bad* Democrat who heads the Council on Foreign Relations, said Biden had "made a difficult situation more difficult and a dangerous situation more dangerous."

"Putin will see it as confirmation of what he's believed all along," Haass said on Twitter. "Bad lapse in discipline that runs risk of extending the scope and duration of the war."

Francois Heisbourg of the *Biden Bad* International Institute for Strategic Studies said American leaders would do better not to "shoot off their mouths."

+1

Regarding Haas's statement, more importantly, the propaganda Putin can now utilize to convince many Russian people that just maybe he's correct.

"Biden Bad" = silly. Some of us have stated that until recently Biden has done pretty well re Ukraine. Guess seacoaster ignored that.

I just disagree with Haas. This will no effect or a galvanizing effect.

I actually chuckled out loud at the notion that "now," because Biden said something, "Putin can...utilize [it] to convince many Russian people that maybe he's correct." As you know, Russian news is literally owned by the State and does what the State says, says what the State wants. Our enemies at the FNC are saying much more newsworthy sound tidbits than Joe.

I haven't ignored it. And Biden and his team haven't done "pretty well;" they've done a superb job in an intractable situation.

[Essexfenwick]

Trump had all of it under control because he’s smart


White Liberals have mismanaged everything because they are confused and mentally ill (according to scientific surveys)

Once people understand these things, the light goes on and everything becomes predictable and orderly.

[tech37]

Biden's Reckless Words Underscore the Dangers of the U.S.'s Use of Ukraine As a Proxy War
As grave of a threat as deliberate war is, unintended escalation from miscommunication and misperception can be as bad. Biden is the perfect vessel for such risks.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/bidens ... rscore?s=w

More pearl clutching from the Biden Bad Crowd. His rhetoric over the weekend will have no effect on the course of the war, or the decisions that he and his national security team -- and our allies in NATO -- will do. All of these articles warning of the terrible consequences of this brief riff neglect to mention that Biden is not a lone wolf; he acts with deliberation with the advice of Blinken and State, Austin and Defense, Sullivan, and with input from allies. It's basically a made-up bit of drama -- perfect for Glenn.

Richard Haass, that noted *Biden Bad* Democrat who heads the Council on Foreign Relations, said Biden had "made a difficult situation more difficult and a dangerous situation more dangerous."

"Putin will see it as confirmation of what he's believed all along," Haass said on Twitter. "Bad lapse in discipline that runs risk of extending the scope and duration of the war."

Francois Heisbourg of the *Biden Bad* International Institute for Strategic Studies said American leaders would do better not to "shoot off their mouths."

+1

Regarding Haas's statement, more importantly, the propaganda Putin can now utilize to convince many Russian people that just maybe he's correct.

"Biden Bad" = silly. Some of us have stated that until recently Biden has done pretty well re Ukraine. Guess seacoaster ignored that.

I just disagree with Haas. This will no effect or a galvanizing effect.

I actually chuckled out loud at the notion that "now," because Biden said something, "Putin can...utilize [it] to convince many Russian people that maybe he's correct." As you know, Russian news is literally owned by the State and does what the State says, says what the State wants. Our enemies at the FNC are saying much more newsworthy sound tidbits than Joe.

I haven't ignored it. And Biden and his team haven't done "pretty well;" they've done a superb job in an intractable situation.

"Superb"? Wow...maybe if they had/have been on the same page.

Putin is losing. There is NO need for belligerent rhetoric. Just dumb/dangerous.

[Peter Brown]

Biden's Reckless Words Underscore the Dangers of the U.S.'s Use of Ukraine As a Proxy War
As grave of a threat as deliberate war is, unintended escalation from miscommunication and misperception can be as bad. Biden is the perfect vessel for such risks.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/bidens ... rscore?s=w

More pearl clutching from the Biden Bad Crowd. His rhetoric over the weekend will have no effect on the course of the war, or the decisions that he and his national security team -- and our allies in NATO -- will do. All of these articles warning of the terrible consequences of this brief riff neglect to mention that Biden is not a lone wolf; he acts with deliberation with the advice of Blinken and State, Austin and Defense, Sullivan, and with input from allies. It's basically a made-up bit of drama -- perfect for Glenn.

Richard Haass, that noted *Biden Bad* Democrat who heads the Council on Foreign Relations, said Biden had "made a difficult situation more difficult and a dangerous situation more dangerous."

"Putin will see it as confirmation of what he's believed all along," Haass said on Twitter. "Bad lapse in discipline that runs risk of extending the scope and duration of the war."

Francois Heisbourg of the *Biden Bad* International Institute for Strategic Studies said American leaders would do better not to "shoot off their mouths."

+1

Regarding Haas's statement, more importantly, the propaganda Putin can now utilize to convince many Russian people that just maybe he's correct.

"Biden Bad" = silly. Some of us have stated that until recently Biden has done pretty well re Ukraine. Guess seacoaster ignored that.

I just disagree with Haas. This will no effect or a galvanizing effect.

I actually chuckled out loud at the notion that "now," because Biden said something, "Putin can...utilize [it] to convince many Russian people that maybe he's correct." As you know, Russian news is literally owned by the State and does what the State says, says what the State wants. Our enemies at the FNC are saying much more newsworthy sound tidbits than Joe.

I haven't ignored it. And Biden and his team haven't done "pretty well;" they've done a superb job in an intractable situation.

"Superb"? Wow...maybe if they had/have been on the same page.

Putin is losing. There is NO need for belligerent rhetoric. Just dumb/dangerous.

Seacoasters highlighted line is nothing more for a Democrat than what MAGA does for Trump, divorced from basic fact and cheerfully so.

[old salt]

We're gonna take out Russia's S-400 air defense systems. You don't pull a squadron of EA-18G Growlers out of the carrier air wing deployment rotation & deploy them ashore if you don't intend to use them. There's already a squadron of Growlers aboard the Truman operating in the Aegean & Ionian Seas. Going to the same air base in Germany where 12 USAF F-35A's recently deployed. They might pair together to take out SA-21 batteries.

https://www.navytimes.com/news/pentagon ... raine-war/

Navy electronic attack aircraft heading to Germany amid Ukraine war

Six EA-18G Growlers are heading to Germany as part of U.S. support to NATO during Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

With thousands of troops deployed to Europe in response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the Navy is adding to its assets in the region. The Defense Department announced Monday that six EA-18G Growlers, with 240 air crew and maintainers, will head to Spangdahlem, Germany, as part of 14,000 troops the U.S. has committed to reassure NATO.

The electronic attack aircraft will not be doing any jamming missions, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told reporters.

“They are not being sent because of some sort of acute threat that was perceived or some specific incident that happened,” he said. “They are being deployed ― as we have said all along: The secretary wants to keep options open. So, nothing more should be made out of it than a prudent decision to continue to — as we continue to — reevaluate our force posture on NATO’s eastern flank.”

Whether the jets fly presence missions, as the F-35s deployed to the Baltic countries in late February have done, will be up to U.S. European Command, Kirby said.

This latest announcement brings the total mobilization of U.S. troops since February to about 11,800.


More than 90,000 American troops are on the ground in Europe now.
Previous deployments include:

4,700 soldiers from the 82nd Airborne Division to Poland
300 soldiers from the XVIII Airborne Corps to Germany
1,000 soldiers from the 2nd Cavalry Regiment to Romania
800 soldiers from the 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team to Latvia
100 F-35 Lightning II air crew and maintainers to Estonia, Lithuania and Romania
100 AH-64 Apache air crew and maintainers to Poland and the Baltic states
3,800 from 1st Armored Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division and its sustainment unit to Germany
150 airmen from a KC-135 Stratotanker squadron from Fairchild Air Force Base, Washington
40 members of an Army air support operations unit to Romania and Poland
300 ordnance and maintenance soldiers to Germany
300 members of the Army’s V Corps to Germany and Poland
Thousands more troops have been put on heightened alert to deploy, though the Pentagon has not been able to specify how many.

In total, the Pentagon has announced 14,000 activations total ― 7,000 to individual countries and 7,000 more for the NATO Response Force ― leaving more than 2,000 more troops that could be called up in support.

“Right now our focus is on whether or not there needs to be additional temporary deployments to shore up the eastern flank given, what’s going on in Ukraine,” a senior defense official told reporters on Friday.

Navy aircraft aboard the carrier Harry S. Truman in the Mediterranean Sea have also been flying air policing sorties in eastern Europe.

[MDlaxfan76]

We're gonna take out Russia's S-400 air defense systems. You don't pull a squadron of EA-18G Growlers out of the carrier air wing deployment rotation & deploy them ashore if you don't intend to use them. There's already a squadron of Growlers aboard the Truman operating in the Aegean & Ionian Seas. Going to the same air base in Germany where 12 USAF F-35A's recently deployed. They might pair together to take out SA-21 batteries.

https://www.navytimes.com/news/pentagon ... raine-war/

Navy electronic attack aircraft heading to Germany amid Ukraine war

Six EA-18G Growlers are heading to Germany as part of U.S. support to NATO during Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

With thousands of troops deployed to Europe in response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the Navy is adding to its assets in the region. The Defense Department announced Monday that six EA-18G Growlers, with 240 air crew and maintainers, will head to Spangdahlem, Germany, as part of 14,000 troops the U.S. has committed to reassure NATO.

The electronic attack aircraft will not be doing any jamming missions, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told reporters.

“They are not being sent because of some sort of acute threat that was perceived or some specific incident that happened,” he said. “They are being deployed ― as we have said all along: The secretary wants to keep options open. So, nothing more should be made out of it than a prudent decision to continue to — as we continue to — reevaluate our force posture on NATO’s eastern flank.”

Whether the jets fly presence missions, as the F-35s deployed to the Baltic countries in late February have done, will be up to U.S. European Command, Kirby said.

This latest announcement brings the total mobilization of U.S. troops since February to about 11,800.


More than 90,000 American troops are on the ground in Europe now.
Previous deployments include:

4,700 soldiers from the 82nd Airborne Division to Poland
300 soldiers from the XVIII Airborne Corps to Germany
1,000 soldiers from the 2nd Cavalry Regiment to Romania
800 soldiers from the 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team to Latvia
100 F-35 Lightning II air crew and maintainers to Estonia, Lithuania and Romania
100 AH-64 Apache air crew and maintainers to Poland and the Baltic states
3,800 from 1st Armored Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division and its sustainment unit to Germany
150 airmen from a KC-135 Stratotanker squadron from Fairchild Air Force Base, Washington
40 members of an Army air support operations unit to Romania and Poland
300 ordnance and maintenance soldiers to Germany
300 members of the Army’s V Corps to Germany and Poland
Thousands more troops have been put on heightened alert to deploy, though the Pentagon has not been able to specify how many.

In total, the Pentagon has announced 14,000 activations total ― 7,000 to individual countries and 7,000 more for the NATO Response Force ― leaving more than 2,000 more troops that could be called up in support.

“Right now our focus is on whether or not there needs to be additional temporary deployments to shore up the eastern flank given, what’s going on in Ukraine,” a senior defense official told reporters on Friday.

Navy aircraft aboard the carrier Harry S. Truman in the Mediterranean Sea have also been flying air policing sorties in eastern Europe.

Sounds more like an if than a when, still.

But prepared.

Thanks for sharing. Interesting.

[old salt]

We're gonna take out Russia's S-400 air defense systems. You don't pull a squadron of EA-18G Growlers out of the carrier air wing deployment rotation & deploy them ashore if you don't intend to use them. There's already a squadron of Growlers aboard the Truman operating in the Aegean & Ionian Seas. Going to the same air base in Germany where 12 USAF F-35A's recently deployed. They might pair together to take out SA-21 batteries.

https://www.navytimes.com/news/pentagon ... raine-war/

Navy electronic attack aircraft heading to Germany amid Ukraine war

Six EA-18G Growlers are heading to Germany as part of U.S. support to NATO during Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

The electronic attack aircraft will not be doing any jamming missions, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told reporters.

“They are not being sent because of some sort of acute threat that was perceived or some specific incident that happened,” he said. “They are being deployed ― as we have said all along: The secretary wants to keep options open. So, nothing more should be made out of it than a prudent decision to continue to — as we continue to — reevaluate our force posture on NATO’s eastern flank.”

Whether the jets fly presence missions, as the F-35s deployed to the Baltic countries in late February have done, will be up to U.S. European Command, Kirby said.

Navy aircraft aboard the carrier Harry S. Truman in the Mediterranean Sea have also been flying air policing sorties in eastern Europe.

Sounds more like an if than a when, still.

But prepared.

Thanks for sharing. Interesting.

Adm Kirby wouldn't tell us not to make something out of it, ...unless we should make something out of it.

Wild Weasel hunting is not just jammin'
https://www.quora.com/Without-giving-aw ... el-role-Vs

[old salt]

And Biden and his team haven't done "pretty well;" they've done a superb job in an intractable situation.

Yep. They are waging a very effective stealth proxy war with Russia, with Ukrainians doing the fighting & bleeding.
The veterans of Maidan in the Biden Admin are pleased. Good fun, until it blows up.

[old salt]

Biden is not a lone wolf; he acts with deliberation with the advice of Blinken and State, Austin and Defense, Sullivan, and with input from allies.

He blew them ALL off with his decision on if & when to abandon Afghanistan.
He scares me much more than Trump did.

[Essexfenwick]

Biden is not a lone wolf; he acts with deliberation with the advice of Blinken and State, Austin and Defense, Sullivan, and with input from allies.

He blew them ALL off with his decision on if & when to abandon Afghanistan.
He scares me much more than Trump did.

Well.
As I have known for a long time ..

He has advanced dementia.


…. So there’s that

[MDlaxfan76]

Biden is not a lone wolf; he acts with deliberation with the advice of Blinken and State, Austin and Defense, Sullivan, and with input from allies.

He blew them ALL off with his decision on if & when to abandon Afghanistan.
He scares me much more than Trump did.

Big difference between being his own man, right or wrong, and not valuing the input and counsel of others.

Let's be clear, the only reason you could give us to not be worried about Trump was that you had faith in the judgments of the military folks he had on his staff....all of whom ultimately turned on Trump and have since told us that they were very concerned about him. You were right to have some confidence in them, but very wrong about Trump.

[old salt]

Biden is not a lone wolf; he acts with deliberation with the advice of Blinken and State, Austin and Defense, Sullivan, and with input from allies.

He blew them ALL off with his decision on if & when to abandon Afghanistan.
He scares me much more than Trump did.

Big difference between being his own man, right or wrong, and not valuing the input and counsel of others.

Let's be clear, the only reason you could give us to not be worried about Trump was that you had faith in the judgments of the military folks he had on his staff....all of whom ultimately turned on Trump and have since told us that they were very concerned about him. You were right to have some confidence in them, but very wrong about Trump.

Reflexive, irrelevant TDS diversion.
The results speak for themselves. Trump followed their advice, even after they quit.
Their successors recommended & did the same things they would have.
Their reward was contempt from your cohort for serving their country.