All things CoronaVirus

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How many of your friends and family members have died of the Chinese Corona Virus?

0 people
45
64%
1 person.
10
14%
2 people.
3
4%
3 people.
5
7%
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10%
 
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ardilla secreta wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:10 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:15 pm The Mills - McMaster University ivermectin study published their results. Ivermectin as a treatment for COVID is TOTAL BULLSH*T, as are the losers living in the shallow end of the gene pool, claiming otherwise.
It’s still approved as a substitute for butter on popcorn.
Facepalm.

Think Americans will learn their lesson about vaccines and boosters before the next wave?
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SURE....75 years

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a fan wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:15 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:10 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:15 pm The Mills - McMaster University ivermectin study published their results. Ivermectin as a treatment for COVID is TOTAL BULLSH*T, as are the losers living in the shallow end of the gene pool, claiming otherwise.
It’s still approved as a substitute for butter on popcorn.
Facepalm.

Think Americans will learn their lesson about vaccines and boosters before the next wave?
https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/ww ... thafrican/

what "lesson" would that be?

Why in the world would pfizer and the FDA suppress information regarding a brand NEW drug ? Some, don't feel that a FOIA request, was needed in the first place.

AFAN....you are a bizness owner, with products that are "propretary" and need approval of multiple government agencies...yes?

...but, some just can't wrap their heads around the information that has always been in front of them

Like the BS, unprovable "fact", that vaxxed get "less sick" , when the drug claimed to PREVENT getting covid in the first place, BUT, FORGET the millions of US residents, that ALSO had "mild" symptoms, adding to the scrolling 'covid counts'....again, forgetting that tens of millions of US residents, got "less sick" well before tRumps fake shot was given "emergency" approval ...... like POTUSA Obama, testing + for covid.............

we gonna now start hearing and reading " well, my doctor made the best decision, based on the information that they had at the time "

same taats excuse making when it comes to pointing out that ALL of the 2008 presidential candidates voted to kill humans, "believing" our intel in Iraq, Afhan, etc.

This "lesson(s) ", could it be that perhaps we shouldn't blindly just listen to another human whose only mission in career is self preservation, earning money and spending 50% of operating costs on "administration" fees for profiting off of the govt. welfare machine.

How many "hospice" care centers claimed death by covid, and cashed in on the covid "rebate" money? Dude......pfizer admitted GUILT to fraud, paid historic record fines, etc...........and the "lesson" learned is to always trust this type of company?

but tRump :roll:
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runrussellrun wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:47 am [
This "lesson(s) ", could it be that perhaps we shouldn't blindly just listen to another human whose only mission in career is self preservation, earning money and spending 50% of operating costs on "administration" fees for profiting off of the govt. welfare machine.

How many "hospice" care centers claimed death by covid, and cashed in on the covid "rebate" money? Dude......pfizer admitted GUILT to fraud, paid historic record fines, etc...........and the "lesson" learned is to always trust this type of company?

but tRump :roll:
The side effects, for pfizers shot, don't match up, now, after the release of "data", from pfizer itself , the information that IS......just don't seem to add up.

When a child gets tRumps fake shot, does the list of potential side effects, given and provided to family, well in advance, so they can make the best decision, possible.....with the information on hand.

yes.....THIS...IS how it has been.

Are colleges going to require a FORTH fake shot now?
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a fan wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:15 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:10 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:15 pm The Mills - McMaster University ivermectin study published their results. Ivermectin as a treatment for COVID is TOTAL BULLSH*T, as are the losers living in the shallow end of the gene pool, claiming otherwise.
It’s still approved as a substitute for butter on popcorn.
Facepalm.

Think Americans will learn their lesson about vaccines and boosters before the next wave?
Nope, some won't.
Sadly, a large % won't.

And that will continue to cost the rest of us.

At what point do we say, ok, not going to get vaccinated and boosted on schedule? You are in a different, more expensive insurance pool...bigger out of pocket, higher premiums.

The good news is that we may have some good therapeutics, taken at home, coming...just ain't gonna be ivermectin.

Some will even refuse them...
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:18 am
a fan wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:15 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:10 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:15 pm The Mills - McMaster University ivermectin study published their results. Ivermectin as a treatment for COVID is TOTAL BULLSH*T, as are the losers living in the shallow end of the gene pool, claiming otherwise.
It’s still approved as a substitute for butter on popcorn.
Facepalm.

Think Americans will learn their lesson about vaccines and boosters before the next wave?
Nope, some won't.
Sadly, a large % won't.

And that will continue to cost the rest of us.

At what point do we say, ok, not going to get vaccinated and boosted on schedule? You are in a different, more expensive insurance pool...bigger out of pocket, higher premiums.

The good news is that we may have some good therapeutics, taken at home, coming...just ain't gonna be ivermectin.

Some will even refuse them...
... physicians are claiming the Merck and Pfizer "pills" aren't as effective as they could and should be. The problem isn't the "pills", its the idiots who can't follow instructions! Too many people wait too long to test. The ones who test early enough and are cleared for the therapy, 30% - 50% refuse the therapy, taking the "pills". Some of this is legitimate for example people concerned about drug interactions, but too many are just stupid and/or stubborn.

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jhu72 wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:02 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:18 am
a fan wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:15 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:10 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:15 pm The Mills - McMaster University ivermectin study published their results. Ivermectin as a treatment for COVID is TOTAL BULLSH*T, as are the losers living in the shallow end of the gene pool, claiming otherwise.
It’s still approved as a substitute for butter on popcorn.
Facepalm.

Think Americans will learn their lesson about vaccines and boosters before the next wave?
Nope, some won't.
Sadly, a large % won't.

And that will continue to cost the rest of us.

At what point do we say, ok, not going to get vaccinated and boosted on schedule? You are in a different, more expensive insurance pool...bigger out of pocket, higher premiums.

The good news is that we may have some good therapeutics, taken at home, coming...just ain't gonna be ivermectin.

Some will even refuse them...
... physicians are claiming the Merck and Pfizer "pills" aren't as effective as they could and should be. The problem isn't the "pills", its the idiots who can't follow instructions! Too many people wait too long to test. The ones who test early enough and are cleared for the therapy, 30% - 50% refuse the therapy, taking the "pills". Some of this is legitimate for example people concerned about drug interactions, but too many are just stupid and/or stubborn.

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I hope we get very clear instructions coming through, and easy access...for those of us happy to see a safe and effective, at-home intervention that can reduce the chance of hospitalization should we get infected with a variant that escapes prevention solely by vaccine or for those unable to be vaccinated due to medical situation. Belt and suspenders.

Unfortunately, there will be those who will avoid responsibility and delay until too late. They will be a burden on us all.
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Thanks to a new study from the UK we are now beginning to uncover the effects of SARS-CoV-2 infections in the brain. Comparing brain volume before and after individuals were exposed to SARS-CoV-2, this study documents significant cortical gray matter loss, equivalent to nearly 10 years of aging.
... just like the flu!
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jhu72 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:16 am
Thanks to a new study from the UK we are now beginning to uncover the effects of SARS-CoV-2 infections in the brain. Comparing brain volume before and after individuals were exposed to SARS-CoV-2, this study documents significant cortical gray matter loss, equivalent to nearly 10 years of aging.
... just like the flu!
I am skeptical….I don’t believe it.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:46 am
jhu72 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:16 am
Thanks to a new study from the UK we are now beginning to uncover the effects of SARS-CoV-2 infections in the brain. Comparing brain volume before and after individuals were exposed to SARS-CoV-2, this study documents significant cortical gray matter loss, equivalent to nearly 10 years of aging.
... just like the flu!
I am skeptical….I don’t believe it.
It’s good to be skeptical. Does this happen after EBV? How about flu? Or novel flu? There is so much more research on this novel infection we really don’t have a handle on general viral effects for more common infections. Yep, the data shows an effect on the grey matter. How much different is it from other infections? That seems to be an interesting question.

It’s also seems to me to be related to such huge numbers infected. With so many infected you are bound to tease out things you might not with fewer infections.
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Bart wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:32 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:46 am
jhu72 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:16 am
Thanks to a new study from the UK we are now beginning to uncover the effects of SARS-CoV-2 infections in the brain. Comparing brain volume before and after individuals were exposed to SARS-CoV-2, this study documents significant cortical gray matter loss, equivalent to nearly 10 years of aging.
... just like the flu!
I am skeptical….I don’t believe it.
It’s good to be skeptical. Does this happen after EBV? How about flu? Or novel flu? There is so much more research on this novel infection we really don’t have a handle on general viral effects for more common infections. Yep, the data shows an effect on the grey matter. How much different is it from other infections? That seems to be an interesting question.

It’s also seems to me to be related to such huge numbers infected. With so many infected you are bound to tease out things you might not with fewer infections.
... actually these researchers could probably use the data they have to see what happens with the flu and some other more common infections. All they are doing is data mining the British NHS database.
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runrussellrun wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:26 am
runrussellrun wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:47 am [
This "lesson(s) ", could it be that perhaps we shouldn't blindly just listen to another human whose only mission in career is self preservation, earning money and spending 50% of operating costs on "administration" fees for profiting off of the govt. welfare machine.

How many "hospice" care centers claimed death by covid, and cashed in on the covid "rebate" money? Dude......pfizer admitted GUILT to fraud, paid historic record fines, etc...........and the "lesson" learned is to always trust this type of company?

but tRump :roll:
The side effects, for pfizers shot, don't match up, now, after the release of "data", from pfizer itself , the information that IS......just don't seem to add up.

When a child gets tRumps fake shot, does the list of potential side effects, given and provided to family, well in advance, so they can make the best decision, possible.....with the information on hand.

yes.....THIS...IS how it has been.

Are colleges going to require a FORTH fake shot now?



In order for Pfizer to make Wall Street Q2 estimates, this shot is ‘necessary’.

After #4, additional shots will be ‘needed’ unless the company discovers a drug that’s even better for their P&L.
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Bart wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:32 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:46 am
jhu72 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:16 am
Thanks to a new study from the UK we are now beginning to uncover the effects of SARS-CoV-2 infections in the brain. Comparing brain volume before and after individuals were exposed to SARS-CoV-2, this study documents significant cortical gray matter loss, equivalent to nearly 10 years of aging.
... just like the flu!
I am skeptical….I don’t believe it.
It’s good to be skeptical. Does this happen after EBV? How about flu? Or novel flu? There is so much more research on this novel infection we really don’t have a handle on general viral effects for more common infections. Yep, the data shows an effect on the grey matter. How much different is it from other infections? That seems to be an interesting question.

It’s also seems to me to be related to such huge numbers infected. With so many infected you are bound to tease out things you might not with fewer infections.
I am skeptical that it has any impact at all on the brain.
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jhu72 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:41 am
Bart wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:32 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:46 am
jhu72 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:16 am
Thanks to a new study from the UK we are now beginning to uncover the effects of SARS-CoV-2 infections in the brain. Comparing brain volume before and after individuals were exposed to SARS-CoV-2, this study documents significant cortical gray matter loss, equivalent to nearly 10 years of aging.
... just like the flu!
I am skeptical….I don’t believe it.
It’s good to be skeptical. Does this happen after EBV? How about flu? Or novel flu? There is so much more research on this novel infection we really don’t have a handle on general viral effects for more common infections. Yep, the data shows an effect on the grey matter. How much different is it from other infections? That seems to be an interesting question.

It’s also seems to me to be related to such huge numbers infected. With so many infected you are bound to tease out things you might not with fewer infections.
... actually these researchers could probably use the data they have to see what happens with the flu and some other more common infections. All they are doing is data mining the British NHS database.
Have you ever heard of brain fog being associated with the flu? If so, why wasn’t a study launched?
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 6:40 pm
jhu72 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:41 am
Bart wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:32 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:46 am
jhu72 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:16 am
Thanks to a new study from the UK we are now beginning to uncover the effects of SARS-CoV-2 infections in the brain. Comparing brain volume before and after individuals were exposed to SARS-CoV-2, this study documents significant cortical gray matter loss, equivalent to nearly 10 years of aging.
... just like the flu!
I am skeptical….I don’t believe it.
It’s good to be skeptical. Does this happen after EBV? How about flu? Or novel flu? There is so much more research on this novel infection we really don’t have a handle on general viral effects for more common infections. Yep, the data shows an effect on the grey matter. How much different is it from other infections? That seems to be an interesting question.

It’s also seems to me to be related to such huge numbers infected. With so many infected you are bound to tease out things you might not with fewer infections.
... actually these researchers could probably use the data they have to see what happens with the flu and some other more common infections. All they are doing is data mining the British NHS database.
Have you ever heard of brain fog being associated with the flu? If so, why wasn’t a study launched?
Here is a good launching pad: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7924007/
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The fatigue and brain fog is the real deal when it hits. Never had anything close to these current conditions before COVID. Doc is referring me to one of the long covid clinic for evaluation and treatment. Still too new but at least it is under study.
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Bart wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 7:02 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 6:40 pm
jhu72 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:41 am
Bart wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:32 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:46 am
jhu72 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:16 am
Thanks to a new study from the UK we are now beginning to uncover the effects of SARS-CoV-2 infections in the brain. Comparing brain volume before and after individuals were exposed to SARS-CoV-2, this study documents significant cortical gray matter loss, equivalent to nearly 10 years of aging.
... just like the flu!
I am skeptical….I don’t believe it.
It’s good to be skeptical. Does this happen after EBV? How about flu? Or novel flu? There is so much more research on this novel infection we really don’t have a handle on general viral effects for more common infections. Yep, the data shows an effect on the grey matter. How much different is it from other infections? That seems to be an interesting question.

It’s also seems to me to be related to such huge numbers infected. With so many infected you are bound to tease out things you might not with fewer infections.
... actually these researchers could probably use the data they have to see what happens with the flu and some other more common infections. All they are doing is data mining the British NHS database.
Have you ever heard of brain fog being associated with the flu? If so, why wasn’t a study launched?
Here is a good launching pad: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7924007/
Thanks. Maybe the infectiousness of this virus has made it more of an issue. I will take a look.
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Jim Malone wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 7:06 pm The fatigue and brain fog is the real deal when it hits. Never had anything close to these current conditions before COVID. Doc is referring me to one of the long covid clinic for evaluation and treatment. Still too new but at least it is under study.
My sister has long-COVID, since August. Wouldn't wish her symptoms on anyone, and they vary so much from person to person. Some days she's normal cognitively, others it's like she's baked out of her gourd. Interestingly, if she has some alcohol she's nearly fully functioning, but is out of it until the next afternoon. Other people report alcohol makes things worse. She can only walk 1/4 mile before getting super tired with trouble breathing. Tests don't show heart or lung damage, and they're still investigating other things. She's been doing some of the post-COVID rehab stuff at Bryn Mawr. All-American lacrosse player in college, in shape and late-40's. She was double vaxxed with the Pfizer vaccine when she got COVID, and had mild to moderate symptoms when it hit.

I wish you all the best, and hope things get better sooner than later.
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Bart wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 7:02 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 6:40 pm
jhu72 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:41 am
Bart wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:32 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:46 am
jhu72 wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:16 am
Thanks to a new study from the UK we are now beginning to uncover the effects of SARS-CoV-2 infections in the brain. Comparing brain volume before and after individuals were exposed to SARS-CoV-2, this study documents significant cortical gray matter loss, equivalent to nearly 10 years of aging.
... just like the flu!
I am skeptical….I don’t believe it.
It’s good to be skeptical. Does this happen after EBV? How about flu? Or novel flu? There is so much more research on this novel infection we really don’t have a handle on general viral effects for more common infections. Yep, the data shows an effect on the grey matter. How much different is it from other infections? That seems to be an interesting question.

It’s also seems to me to be related to such huge numbers infected. With so many infected you are bound to tease out things you might not with fewer infections.
... actually these researchers could probably use the data they have to see what happens with the flu and some other more common infections. All they are doing is data mining the British NHS database.
Have you ever heard of brain fog being associated with the flu? If so, why wasn’t a study launched?
Here is a good launching pad: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7924007/
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