University of Maryland Terrapins

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

I would think the advent of the transfer portal easing the movement of players plays into this. The ease of movement from one program to another may make this type of roster turnover endemic.

I’ll be glad when the extra covid years are used up so we can get back to 4 years, and redshirts being the exception to the rule.

[hmmm]

Yet another departure from College Park...

Defender Emma Schettig transferred to Notre Dame in 2020 after first year
Defender Catherine Flaherty in '21 to Florida after sophomore year
Attacker Madison Rielly in '21 also to Florida as redshirt junior
Defender Maddy Sesay in '21 to Richmond as redshirt first year
Attacker Avery Jaffe in '21 to Stony Brook after first year

...hence "yet another"

I'm not sure if there have been others since 2020 but that's 6 outgoing transfers from Terpville. I don't know if other top 10 programs lost that many to outgoing. I know there has been a decent amount of outgoings at Syracuse, as well.

Schettig is the only one on that list that actually played meaningful minutes at MD. With the new transfer rules it makes sense that girls that aren't playing are leaving. As Larry alluded to it's actually more surprising that more girls don't transfer once they realize they aren't going to play there. MD will have more than most schools because they bring in a TON of girls that are highly ranked coming out of HS and many of them end up never seeing the field. There are more UAAA's on MDs bench than most schools ever have on their rosters.

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

Schettig is the only one on that list that actually played meaningful minutes at MD. With the new transfer rules it makes sense that girls that aren't playing are leaving. As Larry alluded to it's actually more surprising that more girls don't transfer once they realize they aren't going to play there. MD will have more than most schools because they bring in a TON of girls that are highly ranked coming out of HS and many of them end up never seeing the field. There are more UAAA's on MDs bench than most schools ever have on their rosters.

Seems a contradiction. Why would so many student athletes try for Maryland when so many don’t play? Is it a false sense of their own abilities? Is the team misleading them? I know it’s a frustrating experience to ride the pine for months and sometimes years from a conversation I had with a BC lacrosse mom back in early 2020. Maybe the players shoot too high and no one is there to tell them their skills don’t match where they want to go. Larry has alluded to this multiple times.

[TNLAX]

Schettig is the only one on that list that actually played meaningful minutes at MD. With the new transfer rules it makes sense that girls that aren't playing are leaving. As Larry alluded to it's actually more surprising that more girls don't transfer once they realize they aren't going to play there. MD will have more than most schools because they bring in a TON of girls that are highly ranked coming out of HS and many of them end up never seeing the field. There are more UAAA's on MDs bench than most schools ever have on their rosters.

Seems a contradiction. Why would so many student athletes try for Maryland when so many don’t play? Is it a false sense of their own abilities? Is the team misleading them? I know it’s a frustrating experience to ride the pine for months and sometimes years from a conversation I had with a BC lacrosse mom back in early 2020. Maybe the players shoot too high and no one is there to tell them their skills don’t match where they want to go. Larry has alluded to this multiple times.

There are so many possible reasons. Some players look like studs there freshman year in HS and then never develop after that. Some freshman in HS keep working their tails off and get better n better each year, even through college and move ahead of the HS studs. Some kids go off to college and don't realize how hard it is to play a sport and do well academically and have a social life. Other student thrive under those situations. U of Maryland is a good university and they have some excellent programs, so it is a solid degree to have. Some players are happy just being on the team and don't worry to much about playing time because they are with friends. Teams need stars, role players and practice players to be successful.

[hmmm]

Schettig is the only one on that list that actually played meaningful minutes at MD. With the new transfer rules it makes sense that girls that aren't playing are leaving. As Larry alluded to it's actually more surprising that more girls don't transfer once they realize they aren't going to play there. MD will have more than most schools because they bring in a TON of girls that are highly ranked coming out of HS and many of them end up never seeing the field. There are more UAAA's on MDs bench than most schools ever have on their rosters.

Seems a contradiction. Why would so many student athletes try for Maryland when so many don’t play? Is it a false sense of their own abilities? Is the team misleading them? I know it’s a frustrating experience to ride the pine for months and sometimes years from a conversation I had with a BC lacrosse mom back in early 2020. Maybe the players shoot too high and no one is there to tell them their skills don’t match where they want to go. Larry has alluded to this multiple times.

If you're a star in HS and an Under Armour All-American why would you go to MD thinking you wouldn't play? The problem is half the roster at MD was an Under Armour All-American and everyone on the roster was a star in HS. One thing CR doesn't seem to be great at is developing players. You rarely see girls go to MD who don't play early but end up being stars as juniors and seniors. She doesn't give a lot of PT to her depth even in blowout wins.

[Essexfenwick]

Yet another departure from College Park...

Defender Emma Schettig transferred to Notre Dame in 2020 after first year
Defender Catherine Flaherty in '21 to Florida after sophomore year
Attacker Madison Rielly in '21 also to Florida as redshirt junior
Defender Maddy Sesay in '21 to Richmond as redshirt first year
Attacker Avery Jaffe in '21 to Stony Brook after first year

...hence "yet another"

I'm not sure if there have been others since 2020 but that's 6 outgoing transfers from Terpville. I don't know if other top 10 programs lost that many to outgoing. I know there has been a decent amount of outgoings at Syracuse, as well.

Schettig is the only one on that list that actually played meaningful minutes at MD. With the new transfer rules it makes sense that girls that aren't playing are leaving. As Larry alluded to it's actually more surprising that more girls don't transfer once they realize they aren't going to play there. MD will have more than most schools because they bring in a TON of girls that are highly ranked coming out of HS and many of them end up never seeing the field. There are more UAAA's on MDs bench than most schools ever have on their rosters.

The ND transfer had a boyfriend at ND and wanted to be there. Not really relevant to the program.

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

The ND transfer had a boyfriend at ND and wanted to be there. Not really relevant to the program.

tff

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

Schettig is the only one on that list that actually played meaningful minutes at MD. With the new transfer rules it makes sense that girls that aren't playing are leaving. As Larry alluded to it's actually more surprising that more girls don't transfer once they realize they aren't going to play there. MD will have more than most schools because they bring in a TON of girls that are highly ranked coming out of HS and many of them end up never seeing the field. There are more UAAA's on MDs bench than most schools ever have on their rosters.

Seems a contradiction. Why would so many student athletes try for Maryland when so many don’t play? Is it a false sense of their own abilities? Is the team misleading them? I know it’s a frustrating experience to ride the pine for months and sometimes years from a conversation I had with a BC lacrosse mom back in early 2020. Maybe the players shoot too high and no one is there to tell them their skills don’t match where they want to go. Larry has alluded to this multiple times.

There are so many possible reasons. Some players look like studs there freshman year in HS and then never develop after that. Some freshman in HS keep working their tails off and get better n better each year, even through college and move ahead of the HS studs. Some kids go off to college and don't realize how hard it is to play a sport and do well academically and have a social life. Other student thrive under those situations. U of Maryland is a good university and they have some excellent programs, so it is a solid degree to have. Some players are happy just being on the team and don't worry to much about playing time because they are with friends. Teams need stars, role players and practice players to be successful.

Great shtuff, Tennessee. I appreciate all the insights shared.

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

If you're a star in HS and an Under Armour All-American why would you go to MD thinking you wouldn't play? The problem is half the roster at MD was an Under Armour All-American and everyone on the roster was a star in HS. One thing CR doesn't seem to be great at is developing players. You rarely see girls go to MD who don't play early but end up being stars as juniors and seniors. She doesn't give a lot of PT to her depth even in blowout wins.

Very interesting observations. More good shtuff.

[Essexfenwick]

If you're a star in HS and an Under Armour All-American why would you go to MD thinking you wouldn't play? The problem is half the roster at MD was an Under Armour All-American and everyone on the roster was a star in HS. One thing CR doesn't seem to be great at is developing players. You rarely see girls go to MD who don't play early but end up being stars as juniors and seniors. She doesn't give a lot of PT to her depth even in blowout wins.

Very interesting observations. More good shtuff.

Some players at UMD play right away and aren’t UAAAs. If you are trying to add to 15 nattys you don’t really have time to sift through for that diamond in the rough that takes 3 years to develop. It’s more efficient to recruit the stars… keep the year 1 ballers that are and aren’t UAAAs and transfer in the late developers. This is the big time. The dynasty. The royalty. Crabcakes, Old Bay, Statewide Pride, the Flag, Lacrosse.

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

If you're a star in HS and an Under Armour All-American why would you go to MD thinking you wouldn't play? The problem is half the roster at MD was an Under Armour All-American and everyone on the roster was a star in HS. One thing CR doesn't seem to be great at is developing players. You rarely see girls go to MD who don't play early but end up being stars as juniors and seniors. She doesn't give a lot of PT to her depth even in blowout wins.

Very interesting observations. More good shtuff.

Some players at UMD play right away and aren’t UAAAs. If you are trying to add to 15 nattys you don’t really have time to sift through for that diamond in the rough that takes 3 years to develop. It’s more efficient to recruit the stars… keep the year 1 ballers that are and aren’t UAAAs and transfer in the late developers. This is the big time. The dynasty. The royalty. Crabcakes, Old Bay, Statewide Pride, the Flag, Lacrosse.

Love it. If all Maryland fans were this forthcoming, I think I would want to force less crow down their gullets after losses.

[Bart]

If you're a star in HS and an Under Armour All-American why would you go to MD thinking you wouldn't play? The problem is half the roster at MD was an Under Armour All-American and everyone on the roster was a star in HS. One thing CR doesn't seem to be great at is developing players. You rarely see girls go to MD who don't play early but end up being stars as juniors and seniors. She doesn't give a lot of PT to her depth even in blowout wins.

Very interesting observations. More good shtuff.

Some players at UMD play right away and aren’t UAAAs. If you are trying to add to 15 nattys you don’t really have time to sift through for that diamond in the rough that takes 3 years to develop. It’s more efficient to recruit the stars… keep the year 1 ballers that are and aren’t UAAAs and transfer in the late developers. This is the big time. The dynasty. The royalty. Crabcakes, Old Bay, Statewide Pride, the Flag, Lacrosse.

So are you saying Coach Reese and staff are just accumulators of talent? Some of their own and some of others?

[Essexfenwick]

If you're a star in HS and an Under Armour All-American why would you go to MD thinking you wouldn't play? The problem is half the roster at MD was an Under Armour All-American and everyone on the roster was a star in HS. One thing CR doesn't seem to be great at is developing players. You rarely see girls go to MD who don't play early but end up being stars as juniors and seniors. She doesn't give a lot of PT to her depth even in blowout wins.

Very interesting observations. More good shtuff.

Some players at UMD play right away and aren’t UAAAs. If you are trying to add to 15 nattys you don’t really have time to sift through for that diamond in the rough that takes 3 years to develop. It’s more efficient to recruit the stars… keep the year 1 ballers that are and aren’t UAAAs and transfer in the late developers. This is the big time. The dynasty. The royalty. Crabcakes, Old Bay, Statewide Pride, the Flag, Lacrosse.

So are you saying Coach Reese and staff are just accumulators of talent? Some of their own and some of others?

I think the entire ncaa tries to accumulate talent to the highest extent they can. The trick is putting the puzzle together while also waxing superior (like coach K at Duke)

[Bart]

If you're a star in HS and an Under Armour All-American why would you go to MD thinking you wouldn't play? The problem is half the roster at MD was an Under Armour All-American and everyone on the roster was a star in HS. One thing CR doesn't seem to be great at is developing players. You rarely see girls go to MD who don't play early but end up being stars as juniors and seniors. She doesn't give a lot of PT to her depth even in blowout wins.

Very interesting observations. More good shtuff.

Some players at UMD play right away and aren’t UAAAs. If you are trying to add to 15 nattys you don’t really have time to sift through for that diamond in the rough that takes 3 years to develop. It’s more efficient to recruit the stars… keep the year 1 ballers that are and aren’t UAAAs and transfer in the late developers. This is the big time. The dynasty. The royalty. Crabcakes, Old Bay, Statewide Pride, the Flag, Lacrosse.

So are you saying Coach Reese and staff are just accumulators of talent? Some of their own and some of others?

I think the entire ncaa tries to accumulate talent to the highest extent they can. The trick is putting the puzzle together while also waxing superior (like coach K at Duke)

Yes, I agree. Some more than others.

Your post insinuates that’s all she does with little or no time to sift through and develop/find that diamond in the tough. You know teaching and coaching? I would find it hard to believe that is true of this staff.

[Essexfenwick]

If you're a star in HS and an Under Armour All-American why would you go to MD thinking you wouldn't play? The problem is half the roster at MD was an Under Armour All-American and everyone on the roster was a star in HS. One thing CR doesn't seem to be great at is developing players. You rarely see girls go to MD who don't play early but end up being stars as juniors and seniors. She doesn't give a lot of PT to her depth even in blowout wins.

Very interesting observations. More good shtuff.

Some players at UMD play right away and aren’t UAAAs. If you are trying to add to 15 nattys you don’t really have time to sift through for that diamond in the rough that takes 3 years to develop. It’s more efficient to recruit the stars… keep the year 1 ballers that are and aren’t UAAAs and transfer in the late developers. This is the big time. The dynasty. The royalty. Crabcakes, Old Bay, Statewide Pride, the Flag, Lacrosse.

So are you saying Coach Reese and staff are just accumulators of talent? Some of their own and some of others?

I think the entire ncaa tries to accumulate talent to the highest extent they can. The trick is putting the puzzle together while also waxing superior (like coach K at Duke)

Yes, I agree. Some more than others.

Your post insinuates that’s all she does with little or no time to sift through and develop/find that diamond in the tough. You know teaching and coaching? I would find it hard to believe that is true of this staff.

Of course they do. But I’m sure in almost all cases you can see they undeveloped talent in year one and focus on the individual. There are many players that once they hit the dynasty reality are most likely not going to play.

[Bart]

If you're a star in HS and an Under Armour All-American why would you go to MD thinking you wouldn't play? The problem is half the roster at MD was an Under Armour All-American and everyone on the roster was a star in HS. One thing CR doesn't seem to be great at is developing players. You rarely see girls go to MD who don't play early but end up being stars as juniors and seniors. She doesn't give a lot of PT to her depth even in blowout wins.

Very interesting observations. More good shtuff.

Some players at UMD play right away and aren’t UAAAs. If you are trying to add to 15 nattys you don’t really have time to sift through for that diamond in the rough that takes 3 years to develop. It’s more efficient to recruit the stars… keep the year 1 ballers that are and aren’t UAAAs and transfer in the late developers. This is the big time. The dynasty. The royalty. Crabcakes, Old Bay, Statewide Pride, the Flag, Lacrosse.

So are you saying Coach Reese and staff are just accumulators of talent? Some of their own and some of others?

I think the entire ncaa tries to accumulate talent to the highest extent they can. The trick is putting the puzzle together while also waxing superior (like coach K at Duke)

Yes, I agree. Some more than others.

Your post insinuates that’s all she does with little or no time to sift through and develop/find that diamond in the tough. You know teaching and coaching? I would find it hard to believe that is true of this staff.

Of course they do. But I’m sure in almost all cases you can see they undeveloped talent in year one and focus on the individual. There are many players that once they hit the dynasty reality are most likely not going to play.

I guess we will see this year then. Coach Reese certainly went out and accumulated others talent this year.

I won’t count anything out with her but it will certainly be a test of your hypothesis.

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

If you're a star in HS and an Under Armour All-American why would you go to MD thinking you wouldn't play? The problem is half the roster at MD was an Under Armour All-American and everyone on the roster was a star in HS. One thing CR doesn't seem to be great at is developing players. You rarely see girls go to MD who don't play early but end up being stars as juniors and seniors. She doesn't give a lot of PT to her depth even in blowout wins.

Very interesting observations. More good shtuff.

Some players at UMD play right away and aren’t UAAAs. If you are trying to add to 15 nattys you don’t really have time to sift through for that diamond in the rough that takes 3 years to develop. It’s more efficient to recruit the stars… keep the year 1 ballers that are and aren’t UAAAs and transfer in the late developers. This is the big time. The dynasty. The royalty. Crabcakes, Old Bay, Statewide Pride, the Flag, Lacrosse.

What’s your assessment of the last two seasons? Why were the Terps subpar?

[Essexfenwick]

If you're a star in HS and an Under Armour All-American why would you go to MD thinking you wouldn't play? The problem is half the roster at MD was an Under Armour All-American and everyone on the roster was a star in HS. One thing CR doesn't seem to be great at is developing players. You rarely see girls go to MD who don't play early but end up being stars as juniors and seniors. She doesn't give a lot of PT to her depth even in blowout wins.

Very interesting observations. More good shtuff.

Some players at UMD play right away and aren’t UAAAs. If you are trying to add to 15 nattys you don’t really have time to sift through for that diamond in the rough that takes 3 years to develop. It’s more efficient to recruit the stars… keep the year 1 ballers that are and aren’t UAAAs and transfer in the late developers. This is the big time. The dynasty. The royalty. Crabcakes, Old Bay, Statewide Pride, the Flag, Lacrosse.

So are you saying Coach Reese and staff are just accumulators of talent? Some of their own and some of others?

I think the entire ncaa tries to accumulate talent to the highest extent they can. The trick is putting the puzzle together while also waxing superior (like coach K at Duke)

Yes, I agree. Some more than others.

Your post insinuates that’s all she does with little or no time to sift through and develop/find that diamond in the tough. You know teaching and coaching? I would find it hard to believe that is true of this staff.

Of course they do. But I’m sure in almost all cases you can see they undeveloped talent in year one and focus on the individual. There are many players that once they hit the dynasty reality are most likely not going to play.

I guess we will see this year then. Coach Reese certainly went out and accumulated others talent this year.

I won’t count anything out with her but it will certainly be a test of your hypothesis.

I expect the UMD team to start rocky and be very good by years end.
Team barring injury

Attack
Cordingly (all big ten)
Leubecker (all big ten)
May … McDonough grad very good

Wildcard .. incoming 6 foot Russo

Midfield

Ahern (All big ten)
Griffin (All big ten)
Sterling (#2 recruit)

Then depth … Shannon Smith (unc), Darby Welsh, Pansini (Penn),Sites, Hall (#3recruit),

Wild card Jordyn Lipkin (#8 recruit) tape looks great.

Defense

Bosco (all ivy)
Rheude (AmEast POY)
Barretta (very solid)
Hogarth (very solid)

G
Sterling returns
Lamparter #1 incoming goalie.

By the end of the year this team will be great.

[Essexfenwick]

If you're a star in HS and an Under Armour All-American why would you go to MD thinking you wouldn't play? The problem is half the roster at MD was an Under Armour All-American and everyone on the roster was a star in HS. One thing CR doesn't seem to be great at is developing players. You rarely see girls go to MD who don't play early but end up being stars as juniors and seniors. She doesn't give a lot of PT to her depth even in blowout wins.

Very interesting observations. More good shtuff.

Some players at UMD play right away and aren’t UAAAs. If you are trying to add to 15 nattys you don’t really have time to sift through for that diamond in the rough that takes 3 years to develop. It’s more efficient to recruit the stars… keep the year 1 ballers that are and aren’t UAAAs and transfer in the late developers. This is the big time. The dynasty. The royalty. Crabcakes, Old Bay, Statewide Pride, the Flag, Lacrosse.

What’s your assessment of the last two seasons? Why were the Terps subpar?

Mass graduation, talent drop off, Covid craziness, a real re-set. The time was used to identify who the best players were and then fill in the holes with all star talent and pile up 2 #1 recruiting classes. There will be transfers every year going forward, it’s just the new reality .

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

I expect the UMD team to start rocky and be very good by years end.
Team barring injury

Attack
Cordingly (all big ten)
Leubecker (all big ten)
May … McDonough grad very good

Wildcard .. incoming 6 foot Russo

Midfield

Ahern (All big ten)
Griffin (All big ten)
Sterling (#2 recruit)

Then depth … Shannon Smith (unc), Darby Welsh, Pansini (Penn),Sites, Hall (#3recruit),

Wild card Jordyn Lipkin (#8 recruit) tape looks great.

Defense

Bosco (all ivy)
Rheude (AmEast POY)
Barretta (very solid)
Hogarth (very solid)

G
Sterling returns
Lamparter #1 incoming goalie.

By the end of the year this team will be great.

Have you heard anything about Leubecker’s injury? There have been a couple passing comments about it. I have no idea.

If Terps are great as you say by the end of the year, what will that look like? How will they fare in the Big 10? (Regular season and conference championship) and in the NCAA’s?