Navy 2022

[youthathletics]

oldsalt.....what is your reference to the song?

Climate change is great. Good size UMBC crowd.

Bring on the Terps !

posted as 1500.

[old salt]

The Mids relentless riding. Set the tone the entire game.

[Tecumseh]

Navy 26 turnovers. UMBC 25 turnovers.

Is this the new brand of lacrosse? UGH!!!!

What happened to the top five defense from UMBC? Guys could not make one pass to set up clear. Very ugly. Almost unwatchable. And weather was not an excuse.

True 'Dat Henpecked

That said , take it to the Bank that come tomorrow morning that Navy with be a Top 20 team in the IL Poll Old Salt is absolutely correct .. Need Hopkins back on the Schedule and keep Maryland . I'm sure that's what the players want also . They want to play the best !

Maryland will also be the Underdog going in to next weekend's match up . They escaped Penn by a very thin hair . Go watch the last Quarter of that game.Talk about walking away lucky

Who you got in the Turtle / MIds contest ?

Wombat , Did you and your posse dine at Davis's Pub. Hope you feasted on the back Creek Crab Dip and the Crab Cake Platter . I'm bias but its one of the 3 best Crab Cakes in Annapolis .

Hope you and the Wombatress are still speaking after your wandering eyes.

Turtle Soup

"T"

[old salt]

Navy Riders in the Storm :

11 of 23 VT clears = failed
12 of 27 UMBC clears = failed

Barry has won 21 of 43 FO's, most in the 2nd half of games.
Encouraging start for a plebe.

[HealthyDebate]

Any thoughts on yesterday’s game? From my wet seat- we looked like a young team making inexperienced mistakes and a well coached and poised team taking advantage of every mistake. Our young defense seemed to be in the right spots but didn’t play w heightened sense of awareness.

The extra possessions from failed clears and Maryland’s domination at the X just put Navy on Defense for what seemed like 80% of the game.

A few take aways- we can run w Top 5 teams. We need to figure out the face off situation and wing play as some of you have said the last two games. If our defense can click at the same time and Kern continues to make the saves he has we will push every team we play.

It was great to see the football team supporting our men. Hopefully they saw enough to want to come back out. Especially in the cold rain.

Onto Bucknell- short memory of yesterday.

[old salt]

Yep. FO/possession disparity caused TeamD to wear down.
Terps are relentless. They slowly grind you down. No weak spots.

@ now, Navy looks like one of several contenders for the #2 team in the PL.
Promising young team. 8 plebes have already logged p.t., only 1 is a Napster.

[youthathletics]

Agreed on both of the two last posts.

F/O wings are primarily still an issue if you cannot win it outright. #4 did a solid job tying up at the dot and Navy often left their opponent wing man, turning it into a gambling scrum instead of a 3v3 scrum. Much like Chris Mattes did a few years back when Raffa was injured, he adjusted wing play and personnel to compensate. IMO the only reason to have a pole out there is to have an advantage on a check during the scrum, it is often a disadvantage scooping up during packed in tight quarter GB's. Practice should be a ton of 3v3 F/O and evaluating position, gritty guys, and who wants more playing time.

Defensively. When playing zone, especially the 1-3-2 zone, the backside is the weakest link and has to play like a string in MDD...Zone is mentally challenging and demands you to be very disciplined, we did a nice job over all.

Offensively. Hopefully, the game film breakdown will focus on the Terps O and how they cracked the zone...something we need to work on. We never probe and push gaps to get two defenders moving, we seem to always line up head to head and try and dodge chest to chest...that seldom if ever works, same in EMO. I also understand we are not in PL play at this time and the staff is shaking out issues.

This clip does a solid visual job of showing how the offensive players move, and probe the gaps,to get the zone D broken down.

As oldsalt points out, this is a quite young team with only 3 seniors playing regularly (6,7, and 8) and 3 Juniors (16, 24, and recently 35).

[reLAX]

Navy 26 turnovers. UMBC 25 turnovers.

Is this the new brand of lacrosse? UGH!!!!

What happened to the top five defense from UMBC? Guys could not make one pass to set up clear. Very ugly. Almost unwatchable. And weather was not an excuse.

True 'Dat Henpecked

That said , take it to the Bank that come tomorrow morning that Navy with be a Top 20 team in the IL Poll Old Salt is absolutely correct .. Need Hopkins back on the Schedule and keep Maryland . I'm sure that's what the players want also . They want to play the best !

Maryland will also be the Underdog going in to next weekend's match up . They escaped Penn by a very thin hair . Go watch the last Quarter of that game.Talk about walking away lucky

Who you got in the Turtle / MIds contest ?

Wombat , Did you and your posse dine at Davis's Pub. Hope you feasted on the back Creek Crab Dip and the Crab Cake Platter . I'm bias but its one of the 3 best Crab Cakes in Annapolis .

Hope you and the Wombatress are still speaking after your wandering eyes.

Turtle Soup

"T"

And What were you saying about the Terps? Underdogs?

[Tecumseh]

Both computer models had the Turtles has the slight underdog ( Navy had 2 win ) at the time similarity Both Models had Vermont in a big win over Navy so go figure.
I this observers humble option , The Turtles win came down to pure coaching during the week and intensity which on the bench . For instance , Navy had 2 off-sides and the Turtles had zero . Youth and Old Salt have the rest figured off correctly IMO . What will we see at snowy Bushnell ?

Bison Burgers !

"T"

[reLAX]

Both computer models had the Turtles has the slight underdog ( Navy had 2 win ) at the time similarity Both Models had Vermont in a big win over Navy so go figure.
I this observers humble option , The Turtles win came down to pure coaching during the week and intensity which on the bench . For instance , Navy had 2 off-sides and the Turtles had zero . Youth and Old Salt have the rest figured off correctly IMO . What will we see at snowy Bushnell ?

Bison Burgers !

"T"

Good luck to your boys against Bucknell! We are all so grateful for their service.

[kramerica.inc]

Navy up 3-0 against Bucknell to start the 2nd Q.

[The Orfling]

A day late here but wow, Navy looked impressive against Bucknell. They just SMOTHERED them. Five players with three points or more, led by Daniel with a 7-point day. Timely saves by Kern to keep Bucknell from ever making a game of it. Some garbage time turnovers and failed clears obscure a bit what a well played game it was for Navy. Go Mids!

[old salt]

Great team performance. Navy will be a factor in the PL this season.

TeamD was rock solid. I don't think there was a goal scored on the starting 6.
The early goals came on EMO or when O-middies were on, then a #2 or subs were in.
Kern is on fire (knock on wood)
A word about the ssdm's -- big holes to fill with the grad of Plumer & Jones.
We knew Griffin could step up, based on last yr. Alexander has played like a returning starter.
No dropoff from last yr.

Daniels jump shot goal was SportsCenter quality.
Good to see Foster's lefty rip & Torain score with both hands.
Cole & Wade can score from anywhere. Sweeney's got his sea legs.
FOGO's are maturing nicely. Wing play was improved

With a Tues game upcoming, longer bench.
Multi runs for MF2 & a goal for Smiley. Multi FOGO's.
Princeton should be a fun test. It's all good.

[Tecumseh]

A day late here but wow, Navy looked impressive against Bucknell. They just SMOTHERED them. Five players with three points or more, led by Daniel with a 7-point day. Timely saves by Kern to keep Bucknell from ever making a game of it. Some garbage time turnovers and failed clears obscure a bit what a well played game it was for Navy. Go Mids!

No respect for this Navy Team !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVQB9N__pdc

Neither poll has Navy in the top 20 . Tuesday night against the Tigers will be tough . Saturday will be a slam dunk in Easton setting up the Loyola game. The Patriot league is wide open IMHO !

GO NAVY , BEAT EVERYONE

"T"

[youthathletics]

What has been quite nice to see is multiple scorers each game, I believe this past Saturday there were 8 different people with goals, multiple assists. Team D is as expected, high pressured where needed and for the most part fundamentally buttoned up elsewhere.

TO's are a concern, the ones during clears are daggers. We are giving the opposition just a few too many extra opportunities. The stat column on the website no longer breaks them down by game. I think we would be a bit more risky with skip passes if our over all TO's were not as high as they are.

Bucknell took full advantage of penalties on 3-4 scores. I believe their first 3 points were on EMO, to keep them within reach, during the opening Navy run. Kern is making saves he has no business making...playing very well.

Our offense is still finding their way, quite nicely thus far, and Kudos to the staff for giving the men enough rope to just play. Cracking a zone looked much better vs Bucknell with a few guys getting gritty and pushing gaps, moving the D.

My criticism on offense would be inside and off ball players not really working enough IQ wise. A bit too much watching and not moving into skip lanes, hanging the stick head as if they are not ready for a pass and inside guys working a bit too low off their screen/cuts, which is not giving them much room to work should the ball get jammed in there. If they are going to play a 2-2-2, consider stretching those inside guys to the high crease...that'll make the inside slide much longer if 21 or 17 push from X and beat their man.

Looking forward to the game tomorrow. Only had wished PU beat JHU to support a higher SOS when the dust settles, but who knows....it is still early.

[The Orfling]

Excellent analysis as always, youth. Princeton has had a tough schedule so far and they have some talent; Sowers is one of the better attackmen Navy will face this year. With Navy's cohesive team defense and the strong play of the ssdms (shout out to old salt) I think they will be up to the challenge, but it should be a good game.

[TheBigIguana]

Navy's plan for playing Sowers is not working at all and they look lost much like they did against the Terps

[old salt]

Ugh !

[Tecumseh]

Navy's plan for playing Sowers is not working at all and they look lost much like they did against the Terps

Yikes is right .. What happens when they play the Hounds and Pat Spencer , Princeton wasn't even a top 20 team in any poll. Mediocrity at best is the message from the corner office

Go Navy , Beat the Leopards

"T"

[wgdsr]

first navy game i've seen this year. obviously, they must've looked better defensively. flat footed in zone, 5 guys within 5-7 yards of the crease and no one guarding the crease guy.
can't do that against sowers, he'll chew you up.
hope they don't go zone against loyola. saw that live last year and when they did it wasn't pretty.
too many blow bys when in man and/or adjacent slides right into the dodger's face, guys were just ripping hands free.
goalie looks pretty good, but my god they had a great shot like every 10 seconds they had the ball.
chalk it up to a bad game, but i'd be ditching the zone against any elite attackmen/offenses. take your chances with your goalie able to track the ball being carried.

offensive guys are simply 1000% better than a number of years ago in skill, athleticism. and they play confident and trust each other. navy should continue to be able to score.