Progressive Ideology

[a fan]

so, all this time,....wine auctions are just created for James Bond scenes.

Wineries are treated differently. And yes, follow the money to figure out why.

There are dozens, if not hundreds of wineries that don't distribute a drop outside of their tasting room and mailing lists. I'd kill to be able to do that. The wholesaler and retail store can take up to 70% of the price of the bottle of whiskey you see on the shelf.

Distilleries are treated like we're making nuclear weapons. And yes, follow the money to figure out why.

[Farfromgeneva]

so, all this time,....wine auctions are just created for James Bond scenes.

Wineries are treated differently. And yes, follow the money to figure out why.

There are dozens, if not hundreds of wineries that don't distribute a drop outside of their tasting room and mailing lists. I'd kill to be able to do that. The wholesaler and retail store can take up to 70% of the price of the bottle of whiskey you see on the shelf.

Distilleries are treated like we're making nuclear weapons. And yes, follow the money to figure out why.

Realtors, auto dealers and local liquor distributors have polluted and dominated state politics for decades going back to the 60s. It’s pathetic how much power these three groups have accumulated compared with their relative value in the overall economy.

[runrussellrun]

Why does the NY times hate Andrew Yang?

they are such racists....

[a fan]

Realtors, auto dealers and local liquor distributors have polluted and dominated state politics for decades going back to the 60s. It’s pathetic how much power these three groups have accumulated compared with their relative value in the overall economy.

Yep. Believe it or not, this corruption is leftover from Prohibition. And party doesn't matter.

If my brother and I had been treated to the same relative free market that so many other businesses enjoy? Either our distillery would be 100 times the size that it is now, or we would be retired. We've paid millions in fees and taxes that other businesses don't pay...and at the same time, our access to consumers is ridiculously restricted. And the restrictions have NOTHING to do with temperance.

[Peter Brown]

Too many Democrats are truly the enemy of America. I’m not even kidding.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/29/politics ... index.html

Why does the pentagon even have this position, let alone some fruitcake like Torres?

[a fan]

Too many Democrats are truly the enemy of America. I’m not even kidding.

Oh, I agree. This is why it was a smart move for your party to align themselves with Putin.....you can trust those Russians over your fellow Americans seven days a week, and twice on Sunday.

My advice? See if Putin will run for President in four years. It's the safe bet, Pete.

[Peter Brown]

Too many Democrats are truly the enemy of America. I’m not even kidding.

Oh, I agree. This is why it was a smart move for your party to align themselves with Putin.....you can trust those Russians over your fellow Americans seven days a week, and twice on Sunday.

My advice? See if Putin will run for President in four years. It's the safe bet, Pete.

Hate to burst your lib bubble, but most Republican voters not only couldn’t tell you where Russia is on a map, but also haven’t even thought of it once in their lives. Now Democrats, different story. You boys fever-dream association every waking second. It’s the same complex where everyone is now a Nazi or racist, which few were 10 years ago.

Meanwhile I linked a story (CNN no less!) where a partisan Democrat somehow ended up with a senior pentagon position for which he’s clearly unqualified based solely on his social media, and it’s doubtful most libs even care about the new pentagon partisans because politics rule or something. You ignore that of course, and misdirect to some unrelated fever-dream Russiaphobia idea.

Chefs kiss, you keep outdoing yourself here!

[cradleandshoot]

https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/world/in ... r-BB1fgYq5

So much for Amazon being a company of perfect FLP pedigree that forces some of their people to pee in a plastic bottle instead of letting them take a pee break. I only wonder what happens if the employee has to take a dump? You would need a really wide mouth bottle to pull that off. Sacrifices by the employees have to be made to pay for those electric delivery trucks.

[Peter Brown]

https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/world/in ... r-BB1fgYq5

So much for Amazon being a company of perfect FLP pedigree that forces some of their people to pee in a plastic bottle instead of letting them take a pee break. I only wonder what happens if the employee has to take a dump? You would need a really wide mouth bottle to pull that off. Sacrifices by the employees have to be made to pay for those electric delivery trucks.

If you were the ceo of a large company, I’m not sure it simply doesn’t pay at this stage to simply ignore woke progs and their incessant demands. Just refuse to address the demands they make. So few of them are actual consumers of your store anyway. If you go to any Home Depot in America on any given day, I’d venture that less than 20% of your customers are progressives, if that.

[Farfromgeneva]

https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/world/in ... r-BB1fgYq5

So much for Amazon being a company of perfect FLP pedigree that forces some of their people to pee in a plastic bottle instead of letting them take a pee break. I only wonder what happens if the employee has to take a dump? You would need a really wide mouth bottle to pull that off. Sacrifices by the employees have to be made to pay for those electric delivery trucks.

The extra boxes are to be used for defecating. It’s in the handbook.

[cradleandshoot]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... ces-after/

Having worked for Coca Cola in Rochester when we were owned by CCR ( Coca Cola Refreshments ) out of Atlanta their ignorance here is mind boggling. Coca Cola sells sugar water. Coca Cola like any rational company avoids politics like the plague. I do know one thing. Whatever their politics they will look at sales volumes when their business dries up. When Joes Restaurant throws them out and puts in a Pepsi system, the dumbasses that made this decision will know they stepped on their Dinghus. Making business decisions on moral principles is fine and dandy. When your loyal customers that span generations get torqued off at you, here is my 2 cents... you sell sugar water and your reputation as a company should guide smart people not to wade into politics. Republicans and Democrats drink Coca Cola. I'm certain if the Republicans in Georgia think their states iconic beverage company is taking political stances... they will become just fine drinking Pepsi. Even the folks at RC Cola would be happy to step in as well.

[dislaxxic]

Pepsi is and always was WAY better anyway.

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[cradleandshoot]

Pepsi is and always was WAY better anyway.

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I worked for them for 20 years as well before they laid me off. My job was the same for both companies. Install fountain equipment and coolers and vendors and repair them. I never had any real loyalty to either brand. I just did my job. My philosophy will always be don't mix your business with politics.

[MDlaxfan76]

Pepsi is and always was WAY better anyway.

..

I worked for them for 20 years as well before they laid me off. My job was the same for both companies. Install fountain equipment and coolers and vendors and repair them. I never had any real loyalty to either brand. I just did my job. My philosophy will always be don't mix your business with politics.

yeah, the problem is that supporting democracy, encouraging voting, shouldn't be "politics" in any partisan sense...it should be as All-American as apple pie, etc. And Coca-Cola. On brand.

Of course, it's very much an international brand, though consistent with what might be called "liberal" American democracy values: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2406n8_rUw

a more recent (2015) version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miPcx5mi3Rs

and how the company wishes to be seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b18LXBpVDo

re COVID: April a year ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp6UZ_I4zj0

[cradleandshoot]

Pepsi is and always was WAY better anyway.

..

I worked for them for 20 years as well before they laid me off. My job was the same for both companies. Install fountain equipment and coolers and vendors and repair them. I never had any real loyalty to either brand. I just did my job. My philosophy will always be don't mix your business with politics.

yeah, the problem is that supporting democracy, encouraging voting, shouldn't be "politics" in any partisan sense...it should be as All-American as apple pie, etc. And Coca-Cola. On brand.

Of course, it's very much an international brand, though consistent with what might be called "liberal" American democracy values: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2406n8_rUw

a more recent (2015) version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miPcx5mi3Rs

and how the company wishes to be seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b18LXBpVDo

re COVID: April a year ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp6UZ_I4zj0

I worked for Coca Cola long enough to be well aware of how hypersensitive they are when it comes to PC culture. I can tell you when some of the big wigs talk "off the record" they will admit it is a game they have to play. The problem is for both Coke and Pepsi on a national corporate level, their good customers come in Democrat and Republican flavors. They all tend to buy a lot of sugar water over the course of the year. The corporate folks seldom talk about cases of product like local management does... THEY PREACH VOLUME and lots of it. Coca Cola big wigs are doing what they see is best for the company image. They have to be aware of the repercussions of offending the political sensitivities of in this case Georgia Republicans who drive a huge number of that VOLUME that the people at Coca Cola work so hard to build. Easy to lose and really hard to get back. Any KAM ( key account manager) knows that drill very well.

[MDlaxfan76]

Pepsi is and always was WAY better anyway.

..

I worked for them for 20 years as well before they laid me off. My job was the same for both companies. Install fountain equipment and coolers and vendors and repair them. I never had any real loyalty to either brand. I just did my job. My philosophy will always be don't mix your business with politics.

yeah, the problem is that supporting democracy, encouraging voting, shouldn't be "politics" in any partisan sense...it should be as All-American as apple pie, etc. And Coca-Cola. On brand.

Of course, it's very much an international brand, though consistent with what might be called "liberal" American democracy values: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2406n8_rUw

a more recent (2015) version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miPcx5mi3Rs

and how the company wishes to be seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b18LXBpVDo

re COVID: April a year ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp6UZ_I4zj0

I worked for Coca Cola long enough to be well aware of how hypersensitive they are when it comes to PC culture. I can tell you when some of the big wigs talk "off the record" they will admit it is a game they have to play. The problem is for both Coke and Pepsi on a national corporate level, their good customers come in Democrat and Republican flavors. They all tend to buy a lot of sugar water over the course of the year. The corporate folks seldom talk about cases of product like local management does... THEY PREACH VOLUME and lots of it. Coca Cola big wigs are doing what they see is best for the company image. They have to be aware of the repercussions of offending the political sensitivities of in this case Georgia Republicans who drive a huge number of that VOLUME that the people at Coca Cola work so hard to build. Easy to lose and really hard to get back. Any KAM ( key account manager) knows that drill very well.

yeah, that first ad was back in 1971...let's just say they've been "hypersensitive" to the culture for a long time and have found it in their business interests to be aligned with what at least some would call progressive liberal democratic values (others would call that American values). Sure, the KKK/Proud Boys sorts probably drink a lot of COKE (no Diet Coke for them!) but it pales in comparison to the overall market. And the overall market has been leaning forward in social progress, not backward...and corporations that serve consumers know this...it's only recently become "PC" with some folks and labelled "partisan" to be leaning forward, "woke". Enough that the former POTUS calls for boycotts because corporations are deciding to stand in favor of voting access...and we all know we can't have that, Trumpists might lose!

[cradleandshoot]

Pepsi is and always was WAY better anyway.

..

I worked for them for 20 years as well before they laid me off. My job was the same for both companies. Install fountain equipment and coolers and vendors and repair them. I never had any real loyalty to either brand. I just did my job. My philosophy will always be don't mix your business with politics.

yeah, the problem is that supporting democracy, encouraging voting, shouldn't be "politics" in any partisan sense...it should be as All-American as apple pie, etc. And Coca-Cola. On brand.

Of course, it's very much an international brand, though consistent with what might be called "liberal" American democracy values: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2406n8_rUw

a more recent (2015) version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miPcx5mi3Rs

and how the company wishes to be seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b18LXBpVDo

re COVID: April a year ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp6UZ_I4zj0

I worked for Coca Cola long enough to be well aware of how hypersensitive they are when it comes to PC culture. I can tell you when some of the big wigs talk "off the record" they will admit it is a game they have to play. The problem is for both Coke and Pepsi on a national corporate level, their good customers come in Democrat and Republican flavors. They all tend to buy a lot of sugar water over the course of the year. The corporate folks seldom talk about cases of product like local management does... THEY PREACH VOLUME and lots of it. Coca Cola big wigs are doing what they see is best for the company image. They have to be aware of the repercussions of offending the political sensitivities of in this case Georgia Republicans who drive a huge number of that VOLUME that the people at Coca Cola work so hard to build. Easy to lose and really hard to get back. Any KAM ( key account manager) knows that drill very well.

yeah, that first ad was back in 1971...let's just say they've been "hypersensitive" to the culture for a long time and have found it in their business interests to be aligned with what at least some would call progressive liberal democratic values (others would call that American values). Sure, the KKK/Proud Boys sorts probably drink a lot of COKE (no Diet Coke for them!) but it pales in comparison to the overall market. And the overall market has been leaning forward in social progress, not backward...and corporations that serve consumers know this...it's only recently become "PC" with some folks and labelled "partisan" to be leaning forward, "woke". Enough that the former POTUS calls for boycotts because corporations are deciding to stand in favor of voting access...and we all know we can't have that, Trumpists might lose!

This become what I call MD the "chit rolls downhill" problem. It no longer becomes a gripe about what Coca Cola big wigs in Atlanta think. It is when that republican owner of a very big restaurant chain in Rochester takes it personal enough to call Pepsi and allow them to become their new beverage provider. This will happen to one degree or another all over the country. The loss of business has nothing to do with service or pricing it involves the owner taking personal offense to the corporate people. This does not bother the Coca Cola people in Atlanta one little bit. The independent coke distributor is the one who takes it in the shorts. That is their case volume walking out the door that may never come back. It is what it is. IMO Coca Cola should have stayed out of it. That ship has sailed now.

[MDlaxfan76]

Pepsi is and always was WAY better anyway.

..

I worked for them for 20 years as well before they laid me off. My job was the same for both companies. Install fountain equipment and coolers and vendors and repair them. I never had any real loyalty to either brand. I just did my job. My philosophy will always be don't mix your business with politics.

yeah, the problem is that supporting democracy, encouraging voting, shouldn't be "politics" in any partisan sense...it should be as All-American as apple pie, etc. And Coca-Cola. On brand.

Of course, it's very much an international brand, though consistent with what might be called "liberal" American democracy values: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2406n8_rUw

a more recent (2015) version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miPcx5mi3Rs

and how the company wishes to be seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b18LXBpVDo

re COVID: April a year ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp6UZ_I4zj0

I worked for Coca Cola long enough to be well aware of how hypersensitive they are when it comes to PC culture. I can tell you when some of the big wigs talk "off the record" they will admit it is a game they have to play. The problem is for both Coke and Pepsi on a national corporate level, their good customers come in Democrat and Republican flavors. They all tend to buy a lot of sugar water over the course of the year. The corporate folks seldom talk about cases of product like local management does... THEY PREACH VOLUME and lots of it. Coca Cola big wigs are doing what they see is best for the company image. They have to be aware of the repercussions of offending the political sensitivities of in this case Georgia Republicans who drive a huge number of that VOLUME that the people at Coca Cola work so hard to build. Easy to lose and really hard to get back. Any KAM ( key account manager) knows that drill very well.

yeah, that first ad was back in 1971...let's just say they've been "hypersensitive" to the culture for a long time and have found it in their business interests to be aligned with what at least some would call progressive liberal democratic values (others would call that American values). Sure, the KKK/Proud Boys sorts probably drink a lot of COKE (no Diet Coke for them!) but it pales in comparison to the overall market. And the overall market has been leaning forward in social progress, not backward...and corporations that serve consumers know this...it's only recently become "PC" with some folks and labelled "partisan" to be leaning forward, "woke". Enough that the former POTUS calls for boycotts because corporations are deciding to stand in favor of voting access...and we all know we can't have that, Trumpists might lose!

This become what I call MD the "chit rolls downhill" problem. It no longer becomes a gripe about what Coca Cola big wigs in Atlanta think. It is when that republican owner of a very big restaurant chain in Rochester takes it personal enough to call Pepsi and allow them to become their new beverage provider. This will happen to one degree or another all over the country. The loss of business has nothing to do with service or pricing it involves the owner taking personal offense to the corporate people. This does not bother the Coca Cola people in Atlanta one little bit. The independent coke distributor is the one who takes it in the shorts. That is their case volume walking out the door that may never come back. It is what it is. IMO Coca Cola should have stayed out of it. That ship has sailed now.

well sure, so organize a campaign to get Pepsi on the record too...what's their posture?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/on- ... -at-pepsi/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pepsi ... elsewhere/

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5 ... ott-report

[cradleandshoot]

Pepsi is and always was WAY better anyway.

..

I worked for them for 20 years as well before they laid me off. My job was the same for both companies. Install fountain equipment and coolers and vendors and repair them. I never had any real loyalty to either brand. I just did my job. My philosophy will always be don't mix your business with politics.

yeah, the problem is that supporting democracy, encouraging voting, shouldn't be "politics" in any partisan sense...it should be as All-American as apple pie, etc. And Coca-Cola. On brand.

Of course, it's very much an international brand, though consistent with what might be called "liberal" American democracy values: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2406n8_rUw

a more recent (2015) version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miPcx5mi3Rs

and how the company wishes to be seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b18LXBpVDo

re COVID: April a year ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp6UZ_I4zj0

I worked for Coca Cola long enough to be well aware of how hypersensitive they are when it comes to PC culture. I can tell you when some of the big wigs talk "off the record" they will admit it is a game they have to play. The problem is for both Coke and Pepsi on a national corporate level, their good customers come in Democrat and Republican flavors. They all tend to buy a lot of sugar water over the course of the year. The corporate folks seldom talk about cases of product like local management does... THEY PREACH VOLUME and lots of it. Coca Cola big wigs are doing what they see is best for the company image. They have to be aware of the repercussions of offending the political sensitivities of in this case Georgia Republicans who drive a huge number of that VOLUME that the people at Coca Cola work so hard to build. Easy to lose and really hard to get back. Any KAM ( key account manager) knows that drill very well.

yeah, that first ad was back in 1971...let's just say they've been "hypersensitive" to the culture for a long time and have found it in their business interests to be aligned with what at least some would call progressive liberal democratic values (others would call that American values). Sure, the KKK/Proud Boys sorts probably drink a lot of COKE (no Diet Coke for them!) but it pales in comparison to the overall market. And the overall market has been leaning forward in social progress, not backward...and corporations that serve consumers know this...it's only recently become "PC" with some folks and labelled "partisan" to be leaning forward, "woke". Enough that the former POTUS calls for boycotts because corporations are deciding to stand in favor of voting access...and we all know we can't have that, Trumpists might lose!

This become what I call MD the "chit rolls downhill" problem. It no longer becomes a gripe about what Coca Cola big wigs in Atlanta think. It is when that republican owner of a very big restaurant chain in Rochester takes it personal enough to call Pepsi and allow them to become their new beverage provider. This will happen to one degree or another all over the country. The loss of business has nothing to do with service or pricing it involves the owner taking personal offense to the corporate people. This does not bother the Coca Cola people in Atlanta one little bit. The independent coke distributor is the one who takes it in the shorts. That is their case volume walking out the door that may never come back. It is what it is. IMO Coca Cola should have stayed out of it. That ship has sailed now.

well sure, so organize a campaign to get Pepsi on the record too...what's their posture?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/on- ... -at-pepsi/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pepsi ... elsewhere/

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5 ... ott-report

Pepsi I believe is still split into 2 halves. There is the business and marketing end and there is the bottling and manufacturing end. I believe the bottling business is still called PBG. As a general rule I think they would would do everything in their power to sidestep such a thorny political issue. Coca Cola is Atlanta, that is their national headquarters, they have a mind boggling operation that runs there, the coca cola museum is there. they train technicians there on all aspects of their equipment that they manufacture exclusive to coca cola. I don't understand why they did it. They are taking a political stand that could come back to bite them in the ass. The powers that be see it as a moral imperative to take a stand. The game will play out one way or another. This game has all kinds of interesting possibilities in a hypothetical sense. If the McDonalds corporate people were to give the Coca Cola corporate people any kind of blow back... chit will hit the fan. That probably won't happen but these big restaurant chains hate bad publicity in any way, shape or form.

[MDlaxfan76]

Pepsi is and always was WAY better anyway.

..

I worked for them for 20 years as well before they laid me off. My job was the same for both companies. Install fountain equipment and coolers and vendors and repair them. I never had any real loyalty to either brand. I just did my job. My philosophy will always be don't mix your business with politics.

yeah, the problem is that supporting democracy, encouraging voting, shouldn't be "politics" in any partisan sense...it should be as All-American as apple pie, etc. And Coca-Cola. On brand.

Of course, it's very much an international brand, though consistent with what might be called "liberal" American democracy values: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2406n8_rUw

a more recent (2015) version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miPcx5mi3Rs

and how the company wishes to be seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b18LXBpVDo

re COVID: April a year ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp6UZ_I4zj0

I worked for Coca Cola long enough to be well aware of how hypersensitive they are when it comes to PC culture. I can tell you when some of the big wigs talk "off the record" they will admit it is a game they have to play. The problem is for both Coke and Pepsi on a national corporate level, their good customers come in Democrat and Republican flavors. They all tend to buy a lot of sugar water over the course of the year. The corporate folks seldom talk about cases of product like local management does... THEY PREACH VOLUME and lots of it. Coca Cola big wigs are doing what they see is best for the company image. They have to be aware of the repercussions of offending the political sensitivities of in this case Georgia Republicans who drive a huge number of that VOLUME that the people at Coca Cola work so hard to build. Easy to lose and really hard to get back. Any KAM ( key account manager) knows that drill very well.

yeah, that first ad was back in 1971...let's just say they've been "hypersensitive" to the culture for a long time and have found it in their business interests to be aligned with what at least some would call progressive liberal democratic values (others would call that American values). Sure, the KKK/Proud Boys sorts probably drink a lot of COKE (no Diet Coke for them!) but it pales in comparison to the overall market. And the overall market has been leaning forward in social progress, not backward...and corporations that serve consumers know this...it's only recently become "PC" with some folks and labelled "partisan" to be leaning forward, "woke". Enough that the former POTUS calls for boycotts because corporations are deciding to stand in favor of voting access...and we all know we can't have that, Trumpists might lose!

This become what I call MD the "chit rolls downhill" problem. It no longer becomes a gripe about what Coca Cola big wigs in Atlanta think. It is when that republican owner of a very big restaurant chain in Rochester takes it personal enough to call Pepsi and allow them to become their new beverage provider. This will happen to one degree or another all over the country. The loss of business has nothing to do with service or pricing it involves the owner taking personal offense to the corporate people. This does not bother the Coca Cola people in Atlanta one little bit. The independent coke distributor is the one who takes it in the shorts. That is their case volume walking out the door that may never come back. It is what it is. IMO Coca Cola should have stayed out of it. That ship has sailed now.

well sure, so organize a campaign to get Pepsi on the record too...what's their posture?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/on- ... -at-pepsi/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pepsi ... elsewhere/

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5 ... ott-report

Pepsi I believe is still split into 2 halves. There is the business and marketing end and there is the bottling and manufacturing end. I believe the bottling business is still called PBG. As a general rule I think they would would do everything in their power to sidestep such a thorny political issue. Coca Cola is Atlanta, that is their national headquarters, they have a mind boggling operation that runs there, the coca cola museum is there. they train technicians there on all aspects of their equipment that they manufacture exclusive to coca cola. I don't understand why they did it. They are taking a political stand that could come back to bite them in the ass. The powers that be see it as a moral imperative to take a stand. The game will play out one way or another. This game has all kinds of interesting possibilities in a hypothetical sense. If the McDonalds corporate people were to give the Coca Cola corporate people any kind of blow back... chit will hit the fan. That probably won't happen but these big restaurant chains hate bad publicity in any way, shape or form.

I'd be willing to bet that the McDonald's folks would never criticize Coca-Cola for this move, they serve consumers too.

The thing that maybe some folks don't understand is that many consumers want to know the values of the companies whose products they buy...AND typically those who care have leaned forward in their social views, not backward. Doesn't mean that some consumers won't boycott a company, say Nike, for embracing leading edge such values, but far more go the other way and reward the company for said values.

Voting access is at least a 70:30 issue in America, with a majority of conservatives supporting increased voter access. A company doesn't want to be aligned with the minority on an issue like this, particularly not the even smaller minority who would actively go the other way.