Sensible Gun Safety

[cradleandshoot]

YouTuber Shot and Killed While Attempting 'Prank' Robbery

"The shooting reportedly took place in the parking lot of Urban Air, a trampoline and adventure park in a strip mall in Nashville's Hermitage neighborhood. There, police say that Wilks and a friend approached a group of people, both of them wielding butcher knives. Starnes was among those people and, not realizing that Wilks was filming a prank, shot him. Starnes told detectives he was protecting himself and others from a perceived threat."

Maybe we'll enact proper YouTube and knife control to prevent this kind of complete insane stuff from happening.

Not really surprising given it is almost certain that their brains, specifically the decision center, were not fully formed.

Young men and women (men < 25, women < 23) do stupid things because they are incapable of using a non-existent faculty. Actuaries gave known this for decades; trying renting a car if you are younger than that.

There is probably a very long record of college fraternity and sorority parties that proves your hypothesis a 100 percent. Decades of stupid young college kids doing stupid things and beating the chit out of one another with cricket paddles in secretive fraternity swearing in ceremonies. Then upon graduation you folks, after the welts in your asses have healed can tell the world how smart you have all become.

[runrussellrun]

It’s comedy just stop with the bs. Jesus do you want to make everyone miserable? Is that your goal? It’s Fng comedy. Stop being a douche. There’s a reason you live in the penalty box and you’re no Bob Probert or Tie Domi.

suddenly, context matters ?

the rest is just a hateful, weird, personal attack. You keep hangin with good ole Mdlaxfan, whose recent, "emperor truly has NO clothes" revealed ALL the questions you had about previous "interactions" , and his Judge Smales "like" behavior. Was THAT context not relevant ?

.....the ugly fat guy shirtless act IS funny. If I was a bear, it would be soft porn (maybe I am

maybe, mdlaxfan revealing would have surprised us all, pulling a "never nude" moment Alas, just a doughy, old guy.

[Farfromgeneva]

It’s comedy just stop with the bs. Jesus do you want to make everyone miserable? Is that your goal? It’s Fng comedy. Stop being a douche. There’s a reason you live in the penalty box and you’re no Bob Probert or Tie Domi.

suddenly, context matters ?

the rest is just a hateful, weird, personal attack. You keep hangin with good ole Mdlaxfan, whose recent, "emperor truly has NO clothes" revealed ALL the questions you had about previous "interactions" , and his Judge Smales "like" behavior. Was THAT context not relevant ?

.....the ugly fat guy shirtless act IS funny. If I was a bear, it would be soft porn (maybe I am

maybe, mdlaxfan revealing would have surprised us all, pulling a "never nude" moment Alas, just a doughy, old guy.

What. Are. You. Talking. About?

If feeling the need to respond, where no one else has, maybe they’ve watched it and liked or didn’t care for it but chose not to respond, why pick the one from the first comment out of context? Or are you so obtuse to only understand absolutely literal because it sounds like that’s what you are telling me. That you are incapable of any second order level of understanding at all.

Could’ve chosen not to respond or put things in context but instead you chose to take a line out of context (the whole bit is making fun of himself and the system of buying guns which apparently flew over your head or you chose to be disingenuous here about that which is the same thing as lying in this case). Instead you chose to take one line o it of context and attack. But everyone else here including the men’s moderators are treating you unfairly. Don’t see your own behavior in the problem you’ve created in your own mind...

[Kismet]

Boulder CO: AR-15
Orlando FL: AR-15
Parkland FL: AR-15
Las Vegas NV: AR-15
Aurora CO: AR-15
Sandy Hook CT: AR-15
Waffle House TN: AR-15
San Bernardino CA: AR-15
Midland/Odessa TX: AR-15
Poway synagogue CA: AR-15
Sutherland Springs TX: AR-15
Tree of Life Synagogue PA: AR-15

The city of Boulder enacted bans on assault-style weapons and large-capacity magazines in 2018 following the school shooting in Parkland, FL but a state district court judge ruled only this month that Boulder could not enforce the bans.

The deceased police officer in this case leave a wife and seven children.

Comment from a Coloradan

"Deer Creek Middle School.
Aurora Theater.
Arapahoe High School.
Thornton Walmart.
STEM School.
Boulder King Soopers

All since I was in high school and all within 20 miles of me and my family. I'm sick of this sh*t."

Despite all this insanity, NOTHING is going to change this time either.

[jhu72]

Boulder was in court over their desire to enact a assault weapon ban just a few days before the most recent event.

[seacoaster]

Boulder was in court over their desire to enact a assault weapon ban just a few days before the most recent event.

So it looks like this Judge said that the municipalities do not have the authority under state law to make these sorts of legislative acts, and that only the state legislature has the power to do so. Is that the way folks here read that too?

Postscript: This is from the Washington Post article on the issue:

"On March 12, Boulder County District Judge Andrew Hartman sided with the plaintiffs, saying that, according to a 2003 Colorado state law, cities and counties cannot restrict guns that are otherwise legal under federal and state law.

The “need for statewide uniformity favors the state’s interest in regulating assault weapons,” Hartman wrote. He said Boulder’s ordinance “could create a ripple effect across the state” by encouraging other municipalities to pass their own bans.

The National Rifle Association cheered the ruling on Twitter last week, noting that its lobbying arm had supported the lawsuit against the ban."

[admin]

Tone it down, fellas...

[jhu72]

Boulder was in court over their desire to enact a assault weapon ban just a few days before the most recent event.

So it looks like this Judge said that the municipalities do not have the authority under state law to make these sorts of legislative acts, and that only the state legislature has the power to do so. Is that the way folks here read that too?

Postscript: This is from the Washington Post article on the issue:

"On March 12, Boulder County District Judge Andrew Hartman sided with the plaintiffs, saying that, according to a 2003 Colorado state law, cities and counties cannot restrict guns that are otherwise legal under federal and state law.

The “need for statewide uniformity favors the state’s interest in regulating assault weapons,” Hartman wrote. He said Boulder’s ordinance “could create a ripple effect across the state” by encouraging other municipalities to pass their own bans.

The National Rifle Association cheered the ruling on Twitter last week, noting that its lobbying arm had supported the lawsuit against the ban."

... yes, that is my read as well.

[ggait]

So it looks like this Judge said that the municipalities do not have the authority under state law to make these sorts of legislative acts, and that only the state legislature has the power to do so. Is that the way folks here read that too?

That court decision was a no-brainer. The pre-emption of the Boulder City Council was completely obvious. It just took someone (i.e. NRA) to challenge it.

The 2003 concealed carry law is well known out here. It created a significant kerfuffle years ago when CU/Boulder attempted to ban weapons on campus. CU lost that case in the SCOCO. In response, CU had to establish a "gun dorm" where heat packing students could reside. As Colbert points out below, not a single CU student signed up.

CO does have a state-wide 15 round magazine limit (Boulder ordinance said 10) and universal background checks. Both adopted after Aurora when Hickenlooper was Governor. That law was challenged by the gun nuts, who lost in SCOCO. No assault weapons ban in CO though.


https://www.mrc.org/biasalerts/liberal- ... bs-laps-it

[CU88]

Time for POTUS to issue Emergency Order on gun violence?

[holmes435]

That's a good way to let R's take back control of one or both chambers of congress in 2022.

Proposed leftist "gun control", especially an AWB, won't put any kind of dent into violent crime or mass shootings. And their proposals always exclude law enforcement for some reason...

Then there's the right wing, which has no plan to deal with the matter whatsoever besides yelling "the dems are gonna take your guns" all the way to an election win. Maybe they'll try to cancel culture some more video games, music and movies in the meantime like they're so fond of doing.

The only meaningful way to reduce these still incredibly rare events is to follow through with various "socialist" policies like universal healthcare and reducing economic inequality. Then you've still got the media and social media problem to tackle...

[runrussellrun]

That's a good way to let R's take back control of one or both chambers of congress in 2022.

Proposed leftist "gun control", especially an AWB, won't put any kind of dent into violent crime or mass shootings. And their proposals always exclude law enforcement for some reason...

Then there's the right wing, which has no plan to deal with the matter whatsoever besides yelling "the dems are gonna take your guns" all the way to an election win. Maybe they'll try to cancel culture some more video games, music and movies in the meantime like they're so fond of doing.

The only meaningful way to reduce these still incredibly rare events is to follow through with various "socialist" policies like universal healthcare and reducing economic inequality. Then you've still got the media and social media problem to tackle...

THIS.......

what about INDEPENDENT "wing".........

find it odd, that the largest group of voters in the USA do NOT belong to a party......always ignored.

[cradleandshoot]

Ironically the weapon this guy used is the Ruger mini 14 variant that was the FLP acceptable version of the AR15. I posted this a long time ago. The mini 14 and the AR15 are basically the same weapon. The caliber is 5.56 and the specs are almost exactly the same in terms of performance. In the world of you brain damaged liberals the Ruger weapon does not look as mean or intimidating. The effing caliber is the same as an AR15. The performance specs are exactly the same. You candy ass liberals drew false comfort in thinking the Ruger Mini 14 didn't look mean and nasty like an AR15 rifle does. Look at the caliber of the round liberals
5.56 or .223 is the same effing round no matter what weapon it is fired from. They were designed to kill people. The advantage of the 5.56 round is they are lighter and a grunt can carry more bandoliers of them into a combat situation. How effing stupid and ignorant are some of you people?

[Kismet]

Ironically the weapon this guy used is the Ruger mini 14 variant that was the FLP acceptable version of the AR15. I posted this a long time ago. The mini 14 and the AR15 are basically the same weapon. The caliber is 5.56 and the specs are almost exactly the same in terms of performance. In the world of you brain damaged liberals the Ruger weapon does not look as mean or intimidating. The effing caliber is the same as an AR15. The performance specs are exactly the same. You candy ass liberals drew false comfort in thinking the Ruger Mini 14 didn't look mean and nasty like an AR15 rifle does. Look at the caliber of the round liberals
5.56 or .223 is the same effing round no matter what weapon it is fired from. They were designed to kill people. The advantage of the 5.56 round is they are lighter and a grunt can carry more bandoliers of them into a combat situation. How effing stupid and ignorant are some of you people?

Can we infer from your statement that doing EFFING NOTHING is an appropriate alternative to dealing with the problem specifically these types of weaponry?

Did you ever think that these alleged liberal "rules" were the result of trying to get to a compromise position?

My personal view is that we are now way beyond compromise on these weapons certainly. There is no reason I can think of as to why these weapons of war are available to the public regardless of any potential modifications. You don't need a high velocity .223 round to do recreational hunting or even target shooting let alone self-defense inside your home (unless you want to sleep with a smaller bandolier) . You are exactly correct as to why they are designed the way they are and that is exactly why their acquisition/use should be confined to the military. Heck, the public can even acquire B.A.R.s if they are configured as "semi-automatic". It's a machine gun.

[dislaxxic]

Is expanding universal background checks an infringement of anyone's Second Amendment rights?

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[cradleandshoot]

Ironically the weapon this guy used is the Ruger mini 14 variant that was the FLP acceptable version of the AR15. I posted this a long time ago. The mini 14 and the AR15 are basically the same weapon. The caliber is 5.56 and the specs are almost exactly the same in terms of performance. In the world of you brain damaged liberals the Ruger weapon does not look as mean or intimidating. The effing caliber is the same as an AR15. The performance specs are exactly the same. You candy ass liberals drew false comfort in thinking the Ruger Mini 14 didn't look mean and nasty like an AR15 rifle does. Look at the caliber of the round liberals
5.56 or .223 is the same effing round no matter what weapon it is fired from. They were designed to kill people. The advantage of the 5.56 round is they are lighter and a grunt can carry more bandoliers of them into a combat situation. How effing stupid and ignorant are some of you people?

Can we infer from your statement that doing EFFING NOTHING is an appropriate alternative to dealing with the problem specifically these types of weaponry?

Did you ever think that these alleged liberal "rules" were the result of trying to get to a compromise position?

My personal view is that we are now way beyond compromise on these weapons certainly. There is no reason I can think of as to why these weapons of war are available to the public regardless of any potential modifications. You don't need a high velocity .223 round to do recreational hunting or even target shooting let alone self-defense inside your home (unless you want to sleep with a smaller bandolier) . You are exactly correct as to why they are designed the way they are and that is exactly why their acquisition/use should be confined to the military. Heck, the public can even acquire B.A.R.s if they are configured as "semi-automatic". It's a machine gun.

I have one very simple question for you. Define for me what an assault weapon is? On a side note my brother has a gun collecting friend that spent 20 years building his perfectly functional BAR. He did it part by part and piece by piece. It is a beautiful weapon but it weighs a ton and is not user friendly to the average homicidal maniac. Back to my original question to you. Do you have a definition as to what an assault rifle is?

[Peter Brown]

Ironically the weapon this guy used is the Ruger mini 14 variant that was the FLP acceptable version of the AR15. I posted this a long time ago. The mini 14 and the AR15 are basically the same weapon. The caliber is 5.56 and the specs are almost exactly the same in terms of performance. In the world of you brain damaged liberals the Ruger weapon does not look as mean or intimidating. The effing caliber is the same as an AR15. The performance specs are exactly the same. You candy ass liberals drew false comfort in thinking the Ruger Mini 14 didn't look mean and nasty like an AR15 rifle does. Look at the caliber of the round liberals
5.56 or .223 is the same effing round no matter what weapon it is fired from. They were designed to kill people. The advantage of the 5.56 round is they are lighter and a grunt can carry more bandoliers of them into a combat situation. How effing stupid and ignorant are some of you people?

In the matter of guns, liberals are not as stupid as commonly believed; arguments over calibers, stocks, and specs are completely irrelevant to them (they'll drag you into it, but they don't actually care about the small talk).

Here's what you need to realize about liberals: they want your guns (by "you", I mean law-abiding Americans); everything else is noise.

Liberals don't care about the murders-by-gun in cities like Baltimore; their goal is not to remove those guns. Their target is the law-abiding hunter, the self-defense heroine, and the recreational sportsman. Any symbol of freedom, independence, and American strength is the overarching target by today's Democrat/liberal. Guns, monuments, history, family units, books, speech, science, capitalism itself...those are the targets. Their aim is to wreck America.

Understand that fundamental law and you'll understand all else, plus you'll save a ton of online time.

[cradleandshoot]

Ironically the weapon this guy used is the Ruger mini 14 variant that was the FLP acceptable version of the AR15. I posted this a long time ago. The mini 14 and the AR15 are basically the same weapon. The caliber is 5.56 and the specs are almost exactly the same in terms of performance. In the world of you brain damaged liberals the Ruger weapon does not look as mean or intimidating. The effing caliber is the same as an AR15. The performance specs are exactly the same. You candy ass liberals drew false comfort in thinking the Ruger Mini 14 didn't look mean and nasty like an AR15 rifle does. Look at the caliber of the round liberals
5.56 or .223 is the same effing round no matter what weapon it is fired from. They were designed to kill people. The advantage of the 5.56 round is they are lighter and a grunt can carry more bandoliers of them into a combat situation. How effing stupid and ignorant are some of you people?

In the matter of guns, liberals are not as stupid as commonly believed; arguments over calibers, stocks, and specs are completely irrelevant to them (they'll drag you into it, but they don't actually care about the small talk).

Here's what you need to realize about liberals: they want your guns (by "you", I mean law-abiding Americans); everything else is noise.

Liberals don't care about the murders-by-gun in cities like Baltimore; their goal is not to remove those guns. Their target is the law-abiding hunter, the self-defense heroine, and the recreational sportsman. Any symbol of freedom, independence, and American strength is the overarching target by today's Democrat/liberal. Guns, monuments, history, family units, books, speech, science, capitalism itself...those are the targets. Their aim is to wreck America.

Understand that fundamental law and you'll understand all else, plus you'll save a ton of online time.

PB, welcome back to the meat grinder. Do you have a definition for what an assault weapon is? Dementia Joe wants to ban them. The reality is nobody here can define what an assault rifle is. It is alot like pornography. Nobody can describe it but they know it when they see it.

[runrussellrun]

Is expanding universal background checks an infringement of anyone's Second Amendment rights?

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Expanding checks....into what, exactly?

social media posts from 15 years ago?

Pictures of folks like pretend liberal Canadian Prime, Trudeau......being racists?

You didn't offer up, any details, as to what you want checked.....BUT.

BUT......we can tell you this fact. The current POTUSA thinks that Driving While Under the Influence of alcohol should not be a felony. Most states, DENY gun licenses to people that have been convicted of a felony.

But, Joe Biden, with all his years of experience and observations of the world, feels that someone getting a DUI should NOT prohibit them from obtaining a firearm. Or, just a handgun? or...or....or.

You tell us, you want expanded background checks.......into what? Who knows.

we have plenty of laws.......


we kick a kid of a wrestling team, bc of anger? your society wants to ignore these hurt people. shut them off from YOUR society. no different than what goes on at this little playhouse.

makes sense.......push all the "dangerous type" kids into the banes of existence......ignore them....what could go wrong?

bizarre, that the Boulder kids name is rarely mentioned.....and , how, it just doesn't jib with being placed on the "white national" thread, now does he?

come back with a substance reply, answers to what you feel should be "checked" in someones background.

these are complicated issues........you ignore them, pop off when the cnn sirens go off........ignore the over 60 gun killings, in Baltimore alone, so far, in 2021.

Of course, Biden killing Syrians, with mi$$les.........bc Biden passed a background check

principles....it is ok. to have them

[cradleandshoot]

Is expanding universal background checks an infringement of anyone's Second Amendment rights?

..

Expanding checks....into what, exactly?

social media posts from 15 years ago?

Pictures of folks like pretend liberal Canadian Prime, Trudeau......being racists?

You didn't offer up, any details, as to what you want checked.....BUT.

BUT......we can tell you this fact. The current POTUSA thinks that Driving While Under the Influence of alcohol should not be a felony. Most states, DENY gun licenses to people that have been convicted of a felony.

But, Joe Biden, with all his years of experience and observations of the world, feels that someone getting a DUI should NOT prohibit them from obtaining a firearm. Or, just a handgun? or...or....or.

You tell us, you want expanded background checks.......into what? Who knows.

we have plenty of laws.......


we kick a kid of a wrestling team, bc of anger? your society wants to ignore these hurt people. shut them off from YOUR society. no different than what goes on at this little playhouse.

makes sense.......push all the "dangerous type" kids into the banes of existence......ignore them....what could go wrong?

bizarre, that the Boulder kids name is rarely mentioned.....and , how, it just doesn't jib with being placed on the "white national" thread, now does he?

come back with a substance reply, answers to what you feel should be "checked" in someones background.

these are complicated issues........you ignore them, pop off when the cnn sirens go off........ignore the over 60 gun killings, in Baltimore alone, so far, in 2021.

Of course, Biden killing Syrians, with mi$$les.........bc Biden passed a background check

principles....it is ok. to have them

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