All things CoronaVirus

[wgdsr]

Covid-19 death rates higher in states with GOP governors: Study
A new study shows that while states led by Democratic governors were overwhelmed by the coronavirus pandemic in the early months of the crisis, per-capita rates of Covid-19 cases and deaths eventually became most severe in states with Republican governors—a finding the researchers attribute to diverging approaches to public health policies that affected the spread of the virus.

"From March to early June, Republican-led states had lower Covid-19 incidence rates compared with Democratic-led states. On June 3, the association reversed, and Republican-led states had higher incidence," reads the study, conducted by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and the Medical University of South Carolina.

"For death rates," the authors added, "Republican-led states had lower rates early in the pandemic, but higher rates from July 4 through mid-December."

According to the researchers, "The early trends could be explained by high Covid-19 cases and deaths among Democratic-led states that are home to initial ports of entry for the virus in early 2020"—such as Seattle and New York City.

https://www.rawstory.com/rate/




Ports of entry ~ remembering of course that it was the tRUMP regime which granted entry visas to those who brought infection into the States.

so you're saying every state got hit? interesting.

[Brooklyn]

You clearly can not be this obtuse.....oh wait, never mind.

Oh, pardon me for not being politically correct. Let's say it all at once: BLAME OBAMA!

[holmes435]

again, he literally was touting vaccines for months on end as his contribution to the virus. hundreds of times. your take from that is he also said it would go away without them. but he should do it more. that's all fine as that's how you see it. but i see him having backed vaccines for almost as long as this pandemic has been around, so i fail to see that if he doesn't do exactly the marginally additional amount and type of advertising that someone else says he should, that it's a gamechanger.

kamala harris in a national debate, her largest stage ever, said: "if dr. fauci, the doctors, tell us that we should take it, i'll be the first in line to take it. but if donald trump tells us we should take it, I'm not going to take it."

so messaging is important... that's helpful? there were innumerable stories of trump rushing and bullying to get vaccines approved prematurely. that helped? i'm sure it wouldn't take me long to find many in the political sphere weighing in on that. reporting what trump was doing is one thing, doing it obsessively with the slant that it was to help him get elected and dangerous... that was all politics. all sides. that's the day and age we live in.

You have some rosy colored glasses on his messaging. He was all over the place, including touting a number of other treatments.

It's not my "take" that Trump said it would go away without vaccines - it's something he literally said.

As far as Kamala suggesting we listen to experts regarding the vaccine instead of Trump who wanted vaccines to be approved early, yes that's helpful. You even talk about that right afterwards but don't see how it applies to Harris?

You think he was so hard for pushing vaccines, when his supporters clearly don't see that. He could have done a much, much better job, and in fact he continues to fail his supporters.

[wgdsr]

again, your perspective.
your rosy colored glasses comment is typical. passive aggressive. no offense. yeah, he touted a number of treatments. including vaccines. but you reference the one time he says it'll go away anyway as some kind of way to change the course of messenging? and that he never said any of the above?

bc if messaging is important, he touted vaccines all the time. you are smarter than that and trying to claim moral high ground. kamala's quote is awful in her national spotlight for your narrative. but you will not admit that.

holmes... you seem to be a very rational person. you also seem to have had your fill of trump and it clouds your commentary. in my opinion only. and it mimics national media, in this case at least.

trump advertised vaccines. his supporters will do what they do. this is a gray pandemic, not black and white. has been from the start.

[Typical Lax Dad]

again, your perspective.
your rosy colored glasses comment is typical. passive aggressive. no offense. yeah, he touted a number of treatments. including vaccines. but you reference the one time he says it'll go away anyway as some kind of way to change the course of messenging? and that he never said any of the above?

bc if messaging is important, he touted vaccines all the time. you are smarter than that and trying to claim moral high ground. kamala's quote is awful in her national spotlight for your narrative. but you will not admit that.

holmes... you seem to be a very rational person. you also seem to have had your fill of trump and it clouds your commentary. in my opinion only. and it mimics national media, in this case at least.

trump advertised vaccines. his supporters will do what they do. this is a gray pandemic, not black and white. has been from the start.

Got the J&J vaccine today for my mother in law....
As for Trump, he was more of a problem than a help. He probably scared more people away by linking the vaccine announcement with election day. People are stupid but not that stupid. Good riddance.

[CU88]

Amy Klobuchar⁦‪@amyklobuchar‬⁩


One year ago today, our former President said, "I take no responsibility at all."

My how times have (thankfully) changed.

3/13/21, 5:04 PM

[Typical Lax Dad]

Amy Klobuchar⁦‪@amyklobuchar‬⁩


One year ago today, our former President said, "I take no responsibility at all."

My how times have (thankfully) changed.

3/13/21, 5:04 PM

The last Administration was on point:

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2221 ... stribution

I am absolutely certain this administration will have issues as well..... but giving the last guy in charge a pass..... why?

[wgdsr]

Amy Klobuchar⁦‪@amyklobuchar‬⁩


One year ago today, our former President said, "I take no responsibility at all."

My how times have (thankfully) changed.

3/13/21, 5:04 PM

The last Administration was on point:

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2221 ... stribution

I am absolutely certain this administration will have issues as well..... but giving the last guy in charge a pass..... why?

this place doesn't want to give anyone a pass.
they want to give biden a medal. it is hilatious.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Amy Klobuchar⁦‪@amyklobuchar‬⁩


One year ago today, our former President said, "I take no responsibility at all."

My how times have (thankfully) changed.

3/13/21, 5:04 PM

The last Administration was on point:

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2221 ... stribution

I am absolutely certain this administration will have issues as well..... but giving the last guy in charge a pass..... why?

this place doesn't want to give anyone a pass.
they want to give biden a medal. it is hilatious.

I don’t understand it. They are exactly alike.

[Typical Lax Dad]

If nobody listened to him, it would not have mattered what he said.

[holmes435]

Give Biden a medal?

In the first month and a half in office, the lefties and centrists on this forum have been more critical of Biden than the righties were of Trump in his entire term.

We'll see how Biden does, but for now we're simply celebrating competence and a return to simple reason in the White House.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Give Biden a medal?

In the first month and a half in office, the lefties and centrists on this forum have been more critical of Biden than the righties were of Trump in his entire term.

We'll see how Biden does, but for now we're simply celebrating competence and a return to simple reason in the White House.

What is there to complain about? Have you checked your 401k? That was the old bar.

[a fan]

Give Biden a medal?

In the first month and a half in office, the lefties and centrists on this forum have been more critical of Biden than the righties were of Trump in his entire term.

We'll see how Biden does, but for now we're simply celebrating competence and a return to simple reason in the White House.

What is there to complain about? Have you checked your 401k? That was the old bar.

There was a bar?

No there wasn't. If you dared complain about Trump, you were labelled insane, and told that you obviously had TDS.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Give Biden a medal?

In the first month and a half in office, the lefties and centrists on this forum have been more critical of Biden than the righties were of Trump in his entire term.

We'll see how Biden does, but for now we're simply celebrating competence and a return to simple reason in the White House.

What is there to complain about? Have you checked your 401k? That was the old bar.

There was a bar?

No there wasn't. If you dared complain about Trump, you were labelled insane, and told that you obviously had TDS.

upset that Hillary lost!

[old salt]

In the first month and a half in office, the lefties and centrists on this forum have been more critical of Biden than the righties were of Trump in his entire term.

...some people just b!tch about everything,

[seacoaster]

Pretty extraordinary collection of essays, photos, pictures from teenagers who marked the year of the virus. I can't reproduce, but I think it's worth the free click:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/08/lear ... kenderLink

[runrussellrun]

wheel fixed......

[Typical Lax Dad]

again, he literally was touting vaccines for months on end as his contribution to the virus. hundreds of times. your take from that is he also said it would go away without them. but he should do it more. that's all fine as that's how you see it. but i see him having backed vaccines for almost as long as this pandemic has been around, so i fail to see that if he doesn't do exactly the marginally additional amount and type of advertising that someone else says he should, that it's a gamechanger.

kamala harris in a national debate, her largest stage ever, said: "if dr. fauci, the doctors, tell us that we should take it, i'll be the first in line to take it. but if donald trump tells us we should take it, I'm not going to take it."

so messaging is important... that's helpful? there were innumerable stories of trump rushing and bullying to get vaccines approved prematurely. that helped? i'm sure it wouldn't take me long to find many in the political sphere weighing in on that. reporting what trump was doing is one thing, doing it obsessively with the slant that it was to help him get elected and dangerous... that was all politics. all sides. that's the day and age we live in.

You have some rosy colored glasses on his messaging. He was all over the place, including touting a number of other treatments.

It's not my "take" that Trump said it would go away without vaccines - it's something he literally said.

As far as Kamala suggesting we listen to experts regarding the vaccine instead of Trump who wanted vaccines to be approved early, yes that's helpful. You even talk about that right afterwards but don't see how it applies to Harris?

You think he was so hard for pushing vaccines, when his supporters clearly don't see that. He could have done a much, much better job, and in fact he continues to fail his supporters.

WELL.....in celebration of , and following the advice of soon to be POTUSA (literally ) Harris, I will honor Dr. Fauci's "science" of this time last year. In fact, will honor his "$cience" and advise and take OFF my facemask until the anniversary of when he said "$cience"

regarding face masks......


fear porn lovers, what day, of last spring, 2020, did Dr. Fauci understand the "$cience" and announce that facemasks were a good thing ...because I am going maskless until than........because, you know, $cience moves quick.

"Hey, Kamala, watch out, there IS a truck coming.....!"

"I'm not listening to you, because I don't like you "

"Ummm.....ok"

bout sums up, don't it ?

I'll take the Jimi Hendrix approach...where everyone can offer something of value, even garbage personality types like tRump.

of course...when the Clintons where hanging with good ole Donald........ , he offered nothing.

!

[dislaxxic]

Josh Marshall at TPM:

Why Did Trump Decide Not to Have a Plan to Vaccinate the Country? {TPM Paywall}

As we noted in various articles over the last two days the Trump administration (albeit mainly career civil servants) deserve some credit for Operation Warp Speed, which backstopped the risk in private pharmaceutical companies of going all out in vaccine creation and production. But on the distribution front, their record was close to catastrophic. As Josh Kovensky and Kate Riga explain here, they literally had no plan to do anything. The “plan” was not to have a plan. The military would airlift the supplies to designated airports in each state and then it was up to the states.

So why did the administration at least do the basic blocking and tackling of federal support for vaccine development and drop the ball entirely on a plan to get the country vaccinated?

Some of this may be incompetence and some may be ideological – a general aversion to federal government power or government involvement in general. But those aren’t the big story. Two clear reasons stand out and we can see how they played out on many other Pandemic response issues over the last year. The two reasons are closely conjoined.

There are roughly 330 million people living in the United States. It’s a vast country – one of the largest in the world by population and geography – with no unitary health care distribution system. Quite simply it’s a gargantuan task to get two shots each in 330 million arms. It’s a huge feat of logistics, data management, public persuasion and manufacturing. We all want to get this done tomorrow. But it’s worth taking a moment to get our heads around just how big a job that is. 330 million people. People in the country’s endless suburbs. People in rural America. Immigrants families with language barriers or trepidation about interactions with the government. It’s a huge endeavor. Quite simply, it’s super hard.

The risk protection provided by Warp Speed was important. But it was still fairly straightforward to accomplish. Work with a relatively small group of pharmaceutical companies to subsidize some efforts and agree in advance to purchase vast quantities of product before it’s certain that the vaccines will work or even be needed. This mainly relies on something the federal government has in abundance: money. This isn’t to cheapen the work of the civil servants and appointees involved. But it is a discrete, manageable endeavor. That’s altogether different from a nationwide vaccination effort. You need people who are experienced in sweating the details of governance in almost all its dimensions. And the Trump administration had virtually none of those people. Indeed it had an ingrained disdain for those people.

Which brings us to the second, related point. From the very start of the Pandemic in the first weeks of 2020 the Trump administration consistently sought to disclaim responsibility for things that would be genuinely difficult and could have challenging or bad outcomes. Push the tough tasks on to others and if it goes badly blame them. This frequently went to absurd lengths as when the White House insisted that states short on ventilators at the peak of the spring surge should have known to purchase them in advance of the pandemic. Over the course of the year Trump spun up an alternative reality in which the US was somehow still operating under the Articles of Confederation in which individual states were responsible for things that have been viewed as inherently federal responsibilities for decades or centuries.

But the impetus wasn’t ideological. It was mainly a means of self-protection and risk avoidance: arrange things so that the administration could take credit if things went well and blame states if they went bad. Nowhere was this more clear than in the months’ long crisis over testing capacity. Since the administration was actually hostile to testing in general and couldn’t solve the problem in any case they simply claimed it was a state responsibility.

This is the origin of the White House’s “plan” to not have a plan to inoculate the country. The federal government would manage the relatively easy task of airlifting supplies in bulk to states at designated airports and then let the states figure out how to get them into people’s arms.

It was an incredibly hard task and the best solution was to put it off on someone else so the White House didn’t get the blame. It’s really that simple. The through line to Trump’s Pandemic response from January through his final day in office was protecting himself. It really is as simple and depressing and disgraceful as that.

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[holmes435]

In the first month and a half in office, the lefties and centrists on this forum have been more critical of Biden than the righties were of Trump in his entire term.

...some people just b!tch about everything,

Indeed.

What happens when you look in a dark mirror and say Benghazi three times?

Tan Suit?

Saluting with a latte?

Dijon Mustard?

Freedom Fries?

A First Lady who starred in pornography?

I may be wrong, but it seems like you enjoy b!tching about people trying to emigrate to our country...