2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

[MDlaxfan76]

So Chris Wallace is a journalist?

Per the NYT own story, Trump actually paid to the US Treasury $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017.

Read that closely. Trump PAID, as in transferred to the US Treasury, $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017. Note also that most of the overpayment was rolled forward, not refunded. The $750 figure is an ADDITIONAL $750. Thus every single story saying he paid $750 is a lie.

Why did this topic even come up if not to embarrass Trump.

If this version is correct (and I haven’t seen anything supporting it), it says to me that Trump paid those amounts in estimated taxes, but that his actual tax liability for those years was only $750. He applied the excess against the following year’s tax liability.

So the bottom line in the story is true: Trump only paid $750 in federal income taxes during those years.

And the government had 5.2 MILLION prepaid.

Let's see his returns...how many times did he promise to release them before 2016 vote? 10, 20 times?

Still hiding them.

Coward or crook?

[ggait]

Trump's strategy is becoming clear.

He knows he can't win if the votes get counted.

So he's going to claim victory based on the in-person Election Day vote (the so-called Red Mirage). And then engage in an alley fight after Election Day to prevent the Blue Shift votes from being counted. Which is why the GOP is fighting so hard to keep the Rust Belt swing states from starting to count the mail-in/drop-box votes until Election Day.

End game is to monkey with the EC elector slates and maybe get the election thrown into the House of Representatives where he would win (where CA gets one vote and ND gets one vote).

Only way I can see this awful scenario being avoided is if Biden wins FL convincingly on Election Night. FL law requires the ballots to be received by election officials by COB on Election Day and also allows the counting to start three weeks early. FL also historically has done a lot of remote voting.

So FL is the one swing state that could announce a winner if it isn't too close. And without FL, Trump is over.

Hope Mike's $100 million moves the needle.

[ggait]

And the government had 5.2 MILLION prepaid.

Why are we debating this?

Let's just all google up Trump's tax returns and look at them directly? Should be simple to figure out.

I've looked at Joe's returns on his website.

Could someone give me the similar link for Donald's returns?

P.S. NJ Bill is likely right. Trump, like many taxpayers including me, has to transmit estimated/quarterly taxes. If my return shows I've over-funded, I typically roll it over for use with future returns.

P.P.S. Chris Wallace is in fact a journalist. TBD if Six is literate with words and numbers however.

[kramerica.inc]

We don't need a bs count to know that. But the left is so obsessed with hating him.

And the right just SWOONED with lover for Obama.

And I"m sure if Biden wins, Right Wing Media will just ADORE him.

And Kram, for heaven's sake, Trump is to the left of me. Let alone actual conservatives. Stop acting like this is a left-right thing.

So you were cool with the right wing media's treatment of Obama? And the left's treatment of Trump?

My issue is that the TDS has reached new levels of hate and bled into the mainstream.

During his term, you used to be able to find even handed stories and positive stuff about Obama from reputable sources. I think anyone that wrote something positive about Trump would likely be run out of their newsroom due to reader backlash.

Trump could save a kid from drowning, and the left would complain that he wasn't wearing a swim cap.

You and I both know it's all about the little r.

But as a challenge- I dare you or anyone else to find ANYTHING even remotely even handed let alone postivie, that's been written about trump in the msm. Ready, go!

Don't disagree with this message but do disagree with the little r part. It's not about that (of course, with some hard core Ds it is) it's about what a huge rude, crude, condescending, arrogant, self centered aszwhole he is. He's easy to not like and criticize, brings it all on himself. As an example (of which there are zillions), I don't care what anybody thought about McCain, no decent person would say about his POW days what this POS of a POTUS said, to say nothing of what he says about the guy's wife. Pretty sad case when so many of his supporters openly admit that he's unfit for office...I don't like this low life scummbahg as my Prez.

+1

How it started:

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... et/616427/

And what this article doesn't touch is that it has offically swung to the left too.

Want to save the world? Keep your kids off the internet.

[MDlaxfan76]

Trump's strategy is becoming clear.

He knows he can't win if the votes get counted.

So he's going to claim victory based on the in-person Election Day vote (the so-called Red Mirage). And then engage in an alley fight after Election Day to prevent the Blue Shift votes from being counted. Which is why the GOP is fighting so hard to keep the Rust Belt swing states from starting to count the mail-in/drop-box votes until Election Day.

End game is to monkey with the EC elector slates and maybe get the election thrown into the House of Representatives where he would win (where CA gets one vote and ND gets one vote).

Only way I can see this awful scenario being avoided is if Biden wins FL convincingly on Election Night. FL law requires the ballots to be received by election officials by COB on Election Day and also allows the counting to start three weeks early. FL also historically has done a lot of remote voting.

So FL is the one swing state that could announce a winner if it isn't too close. And without FL, Trump is over.

Hope Mike's $100 million moves the needle.

That may indeed be the only path to avoid the chaos and violence that Trump desperately wants.

[njbill]

What could possibly go wrong?

https://setexasrecord.com/stories/55577 ... ris-county

HOUSTON – There’s simply no proof that allowing people to vote by mail in Harris County will result in fraud – that’s what states like California are currently telling the Texas Supreme Court.

But according to two private investigators, massive fraudulent ballot harvesting is already transpiring in Harris County -- a scheme being coordinated in part by Joe Biden’s Texas political director, Dallas Jones.

Affidavits signed by retired HPD Captain Mark Aguirre and former FBI agent Charles Marler on Sept. 27, assert four individuals are orchestrating voter fraud on a massive scale.

Those individuals, according to Aguirre and Marler, are Jones, who was brought in to oversee the Biden campaign’s Harris County initiative, State Sen. Borris Miles, Gerald Womack and Harris County Commissioner Rodney Ellis.

In his affidavit, Aguirre states the men are using AB Canvassing as a front for their operation, an operation that is being run by the “elite politicians” of the Democratic Party in Harris County.

"I have m my possession video-taped interviews of witnesses attesting to the aforementioned people having groups of people completing thousands of absentee and mail-in ballots, including completing ballots for deceased individuals; illegally going into nursing homes, with the complicity of the nursing home staff, and filling out and forging the signatures of nursing home residents; signing up homeless individuals to vote using the ballot harvester's address then completing the ballot and forging the homeless individual's signature,” states Aguirre’s affidavit.

“I have in my hand videotapes,” says the affiant?



You realize that has absolutely zero evidentiary value.

[seacoaster]

Pretty interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WI3X7C ... e=youtu.be

junk....."you say 90 minutes, HOW, can you be undecided" ? What the heck.......

nothing interesting about your video.

THIS....in interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0efIB2cyjA

You seem overwrought. Maybe some rest.

The clip you posted was interesting, and I enjoyed watching it. So thanks. You’ll note that your anchors there reference the very thing I posted, the focus group of so-called uncommitted voters. The focus group was, in fact, interesting, because we could see, without talking heads much in the way, what some people are thinking.

[dislaxxic]

THE PROUD BOYS HAVE ALREADY BEEN USED TO INTIMIDATE THOSE HOLDING TRUMP ACCOUNTABLE — AND BILL BARR HAS PROTECTED THEM

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[6ftstick]

So Chris Wallace is a journalist?

Per the NYT own story, Trump actually paid to the US Treasury $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017.

Read that closely. Trump PAID, as in transferred to the US Treasury, $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017. Note also that most of the overpayment was rolled forward, not refunded. The $750 figure is an ADDITIONAL $750. Thus every single story saying he paid $750 is a lie.

Why did this topic even come up if not to embarrass Trump.

If this version is correct (and I haven’t seen anything supporting it), it says to me that Trump paid those amounts in estimated taxes, but that his actual tax liability for those years was only $750. He applied the excess against the following year’s tax liability.

So the bottom line in the story is true: Trump only paid $750 in federal income taxes during those years.

And the government had 5.2 MILLION prepaid.

Let's see his returns...how many times did he promise to release them before 2016 vote? 10, 20 times?

Still hiding them.

Coward or crook?

lets see hunters returns—how did he declare $3.5 million from moscow?

How did Hillary declare the $10 million she paid for the Steele dossier?

[njbill]

So Chris Wallace is a journalist?

Per the NYT own story, Trump actually paid to the US Treasury $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017.

Read that closely. Trump PAID, as in transferred to the US Treasury, $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017. Note also that most of the overpayment was rolled forward, not refunded. The $750 figure is an ADDITIONAL $750. Thus every single story saying he paid $750 is a lie.

Why did this topic even come up if not to embarrass Trump.

If this version is correct (and I haven’t seen anything supporting it), it says to me that Trump paid those amounts in estimated taxes, but that his actual tax liability for those years was only $750. He applied the excess against the following year’s tax liability.

So the bottom line in the story is true: Trump only paid $750 in federal income taxes during those years.

And the government had 5.2 MILLION prepaid.

So what?

This doesn’t disprove what the NYT reported.

Very easy for Trump to refute if it is untrue. If he doesn’t want to produce his entire tax returns, he can simply produce the one page that shows his total 2016 and 2017 federal income tax liability. One page. 1040, p. 2, line 63. In fact, he could redact everything on page 2 except line 63.

He won’t do it because what the NYT reported is true.

[a fan]

your rants are tiring.

So are yours. So what?

....especially the "didn't study in HS" narrative.. It's as if you are from Baltimore, where all that matters is what you did in HS. Lots of reasons why people don't do well in HIGH school. Lots. How did Christoper Langan , grade wize, in HIGH school ?

Don't care about how anyone did in HS. Pete is complaining about government. Until he needs it for college.

Until Pete came to this forum? It never occurred to him that UFLorida was a Socialized, Government enterprise....and so yep, I'm going to make fun of him for complaining about socialism, when the most important part of his CV came from socialists. What do you care?

So, why do you engage with him? Let it go. Offer solutions.

I just did offer solutions....shut down all those government programs, and move to free markets. Free market health care. Free market parks. Free market Airports. Free market Universities.

You're not paying attention: this is what the American Right is insisting that they want. I say we give it to them, so they'll stop complaining.

How is that not a solution?

[foreverlax]

So Chris Wallace is a journalist?

Per the NYT own story, Trump actually paid to the US Treasury $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017.

Read that closely. Trump PAID, as in transferred to the US Treasury, $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017. Note also that most of the overpayment was rolled forward, not refunded. The $750 figure is an ADDITIONAL $750. Thus every single story saying he paid $750 is a lie.

Why did this topic even come up if not to embarrass Trump.

If this version is correct (and I haven’t seen anything supporting it), it says to me that Trump paid those amounts in estimated taxes, but that his actual tax liability for those years was only $750. He applied the excess against the following year’s tax liability.

So the bottom line in the story is true: Trump only paid $750 in federal income taxes during those years.

And the government had 5.2 MILLION prepaid.

Let's see his returns...how many times did he promise to release them before 2016 vote? 10, 20 times?

Still hiding them.

Coward or crook?

lets see hunters returns—how did he declare $3.5 million from moscow?

How did Hillary declare the $10 million she paid for the Steele dossier?

Sure, let's bring out all of Trump's spawn's returns as well.

[RedFromMI]

So Chris Wallace is a journalist?

Per the NYT own story, Trump actually paid to the US Treasury $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017.

Read that closely. Trump PAID, as in transferred to the US Treasury, $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017. Note also that most of the overpayment was rolled forward, not refunded. The $750 figure is an ADDITIONAL $750. Thus every single story saying he paid $750 is a lie.

Why did this topic even come up if not to embarrass Trump.

If this version is correct (and I haven’t seen anything supporting it), it says to me that Trump paid those amounts in estimated taxes, but that his actual tax liability for those years was only $750. He applied the excess against the following year’s tax liability.

So the bottom line in the story is true: Trump only paid $750 in federal income taxes during those years.

And the government had 5.2 MILLION prepaid.

Let's see his returns...how many times did he promise to release them before 2016 vote? 10, 20 times?

Still hiding them.

Coward or crook?

lets see hunters returns—how did he declare $3.5 million from moscow?

How did Hillary declare the $10 million she paid for the Steele dossier?

There is actually no evidence that money went to Hunter Biden. There is a transaction to a particular law firm that Biden worked for. Nothing more.

And there is also no evidence that Clinton paid money herself for the dossier. Nor her campaign.

[6ftstick]

So Chris Wallace is a journalist?

Per the NYT own story, Trump actually paid to the US Treasury $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017.

Read that closely. Trump PAID, as in transferred to the US Treasury, $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017. Note also that most of the overpayment was rolled forward, not refunded. The $750 figure is an ADDITIONAL $750. Thus every single story saying he paid $750 is a lie.

Why did this topic even come up if not to embarrass Trump.

If this version is correct (and I haven’t seen anything supporting it), it says to me that Trump paid those amounts in estimated taxes, but that his actual tax liability for those years was only $750. He applied the excess against the following year’s tax liability.

So the bottom line in the story is true: Trump only paid $750 in federal income taxes during those years.

And the government had 5.2 MILLION prepaid.

So what?

This doesn’t disprove what the NYT reported.

Very easy for Trump to refute if it is untrue. If he doesn’t want to produce his entire tax returns, he can simply produce the one page that shows his total 2016 and 2017 federal income tax liability. One page. 1040, p. 2, line 63. In fact, he could redact everything on page 2 except line 63.

He won’t do it because what the NYT reported is true.

its not a fn negative

Those facts bout the prepayments were IN THE TIMES ARTICLE

[a fan]

lets see hunters returns—how did he declare $3.5 million from moscow?

How did Hillary declare the $10 million she paid for the Steele dossier?

What for? You're clearly overjoyed that Trump clearly isn't paying his fair share, right? So why would you care if Hill or Hunter paid theirs?

I don't get you, and I never will. Think about that $750 in April, when you're filling out your taxes, 6ft.

And the reason you're overjoyed to pay Trump's taxes for him, is that he has a little R by his name. I don't get it.

And Trump laughs all the way to the bank. Meanwhile, you're pretending like you just can't figure out why your taxes go up, and why services in your community are being cut.

[SCLaxAttack]

......

Trump could save a kid from drowning, ...

No he wouldn't.

[6ftstick]

So Chris Wallace is a journalist?

Per the NYT own story, Trump actually paid to the US Treasury $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017.

Read that closely. Trump PAID, as in transferred to the US Treasury, $1 million in 2016 and $4.2 million in 2017. Note also that most of the overpayment was rolled forward, not refunded. The $750 figure is an ADDITIONAL $750. Thus every single story saying he paid $750 is a lie.

Why did this topic even come up if not to embarrass Trump.

If this version is correct (and I haven’t seen anything supporting it), it says to me that Trump paid those amounts in estimated taxes, but that his actual tax liability for those years was only $750. He applied the excess against the following year’s tax liability.

So the bottom line in the story is true: Trump only paid $750 in federal income taxes during those years.

And the government had 5.2 MILLION prepaid.

Let's see his returns...how many times did he promise to release them before 2016 vote? 10, 20 times?

Still hiding them.

Coward or crook?

lets see hunters returns—how did he declare $3.5 million from moscow?

How did Hillary declare the $10 million she paid for the Steele dossier?

There is actually no evidence that money went to Hunter Biden. There is a transaction to a particular law firm that Biden worked for. Nothing more.

And there is also no evidence that Clinton paid money herself for the dossier. Nor her campaign.

LOL

And there was actually no evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians but you shoved that down our throats for 4 years

[Peter Brown]

lets see hunters returns—how did he declare $3.5 million from moscow?

How did Hillary declare the $10 million she paid for the Steele dossier?

What for? You're clearly overjoyed that Trump clearly isn't paying his fair share, right? So why would you care if Hill or Hunter paid theirs?

I don't get you, and I never will. Think about that $750 in April, when you're filling out your taxes, 6ft.

And the reason you're overjoyed to pay Trump's taxes for him, is that he has a little R by his name. I don't get it.

And Trump laughs all the way to the bank. Meanwhile, you're pretending like you just can't figure out why your taxes go up, and why services in your community are being cut.

Aye yi yi. Where to even start with a fan? So young, so much to learn. Sad.

I’ll start with the only responsible answer. Tax laws are written to encourage (or not) behavior. Trump didn’t write the laws he utilizes to reduce his EARNED INCOME tax liabilities. He paid what was owed. Real estate investors enjoy significant write off and depreciation benefits because bipartisan committees determined they should. Trump didn’t make the rules.

If you don’t like the laws, elect people to change them. It’s not a taxpayers obligation to pay more than legally required.

Are you upset that Warren Buffet has transferred TAX FREE practically his entire estate to a foundation? He would have owed $35 BILLION to the US had he not. Shouldn’t that fry you more than Trump’s piddly millions?

[DocBarrister]

Doc calls everyone here he disagrees with a racist and wont admit his own candidate is one.

Look at Biden’s actual policy decisions. And the words coming out of his mouth for 47 years.

BTW, “Racial Jungle” and “Super Predators” are trending on Twitter.

How can you support someone, Donald Trump, who refuses to renounce white supremacists and calls neo-Nazis “very fine people?”

Oh, that’s right ....

DocBarrister

Why won’t you support school choice for young black kids?

Oh, that’s right...

Why is someone who supports the re-legalization of racial segregation still posting on this forum?

DocBarrister

[DocBarrister]

A new poll by Data for Progress provided exclusively to Vox shows that viewers thought Democratic nominee Joe Biden decisively won Tuesday’s first presidential debate against President Donald Trump, by a 52-39 margin.

https://www.vox.com/2020/9/30/21495284/ ... ebate-poll

DocBarrister