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a fan wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:58 pm I also like that Anna explains that her extended family was on the taxapayer dole.....and then goes on to tell us that handouts are bad.
Just so everyone else doesn't have to dig through the site:


"A proud Hispanic-American of Mexican descent, Anna was raised in the lower-income neighborhoods of Southern California by a single mother. She is the antidote to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's claim that Americans cannot pull themselves up by their bootstraps."

"I grew up in the welfare system and have witnessed how it can be exploited."



On top of growing up on welfare, after attending public school she gets a job out of high school by joining the Air Force (taxpayer funded salary). She then used the GI Bill to attend a public university.

Man, she sure pulled herself up by her bootstraps with no government help at all. I certainly respect her work ethic and service to get where she is, but she is proving AOC's point.
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a fan wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:42 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:27 pm
Anna is so great. Her backstory is authentic.
It is, indeed.


The problem is she, like you, is ENTIRELY unaware of her own background, and that her success is ENTIRELY due to not just socialist policies (her four year degree) but because of the handouts that she pretends to despise.

This is the Republican party in 2020, I'll give you that.

I'd be DELIGHTED to call her bluff, cut off her family from access to MY MONEY, and shut down the socialist school she attended...that is operating with MY MONEY.

Who do I vote for to make that happen? Obviously not this socialist "welfare queen", thank you Ronald Reagan.


a fan's lib jealousy oozes through his post above. Sad to see a friend drop off like this. He coulda been a contender.

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holmes435 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:49 pm Man, she sure pulled herself up by her bootstraps with no government help at all. I certainly respect her work ethic and service to get where she is, but she is proving AOC's point.
I find it utterly glorious that millions of Republicans just like Pete read that bio, and because she has a little R by her name think "wow, she did that without even a little Government help! Hurray!

They're all like this. Government money? What Government money?! I did this by myself!

Cannot WAIT for the Federal and State cuts to come after COVID. Counting the days until "whoops! Looks like Flyover America is out of work, and can't afford to fund their schools, roads, and hospitals. Boy, that's a surprise, what with them being all independent from Federal government money, and all.... :roll:
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holmes435 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:49 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:58 pm I also like that Anna explains that her extended family was on the taxapayer dole.....and then goes on to tell us that handouts are bad.
Just so everyone else doesn't have to dig through the site:


"A proud Hispanic-American of Mexican descent, Anna was raised in the lower-income neighborhoods of Southern California by a single mother. She is the antidote to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's claim that Americans cannot pull themselves up by their bootstraps."

"I grew up in the welfare system and have witnessed how it can be exploited."



On top of growing up on welfare, after attending public school she gets a job out of high school by joining the Air Force (taxpayer funded salary). She then used the GI Bill to attend a public university.

Man, she sure pulled herself up by her bootstraps with no government help at all. I certainly respect her work ethic and service to get where she is, but she is proving AOC's point.
Speaking of the GI Bill.....

https://www.militarytimes.com/military- ... -it-wasnt/

And let’s not forget the farmers:

https://thecounter.org/usda-black-farme ... ights/amp/
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holmes435 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:49 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:58 pm I also like that Anna explains that her extended family was on the taxapayer dole.....and then goes on to tell us that handouts are bad.
Just so everyone else doesn't have to dig through the site:


"A proud Hispanic-American of Mexican descent, Anna was raised in the lower-income neighborhoods of Southern California by a single mother. She is the antidote to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's claim that Americans cannot pull themselves up by their bootstraps."

"I grew up in the welfare system and have witnessed how it can be exploited."



On top of growing up on welfare, after attending public school she gets a job out of high school by joining the Air Force (taxpayer funded salary). She then used the GI Bill to attend a public university.

Man, she sure pulled herself up by her bootstraps with no government help at all. I certainly respect her work ethic and service to get where she is, but she is proving AOC's point.


Joining the Air Force is not welfare...you actually do have a job to perform, which you are underpaid to do.

And so far as the welfare her Mom was on, no one is demanding that we 'end welfare'...rather, that we re-incentivize it. No one knows better how welfare exploits the poor than someone who has actually been on it.

Republicans are on a big roll today and libs are scared, because these candidates deflate the preferred narrative. Byron Donalds, Anna Paulina Luna. Kimberly Klacik. These are actual rockstars, not whining lefty birdbrains. If you actually cared about equality and racial justice, you'd be cheering these three on, not trying to knock them down. But such is the life of a Democrat...all hat, no cattle.
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a fan wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:54 pm
holmes435 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:49 pm Man, she sure pulled herself up by her bootstraps with no government help at all. I certainly respect her work ethic and service to get where she is, but she is proving AOC's point.
I find it utterly glorious that millions of Republicans just like Pete read that bio, and because she has a little R by her name think "wow, she did that without even a little Government help! Hurray!

They're all like this. Government money? What Government money?! I did this by myself!

Cannot WAIT for the Federal and State cuts to come after COVID. Counting the days until "whoops! Looks like Flyover America is out of work, and can't afford to fund their schools, roads, and hospitals. Boy, that's a surprise, what with them being all independent from Federal government money, and all.... :roll:


I'll repeat this with easy verbiage so you can understand: no one wants to do away with 'welfare'. Welfare used to be provided by the Church, which I guess most people here do not attend? The Church in its finest moments provides comfort and shelter to the poor. I might be more extreme on this than most, but I wish the church still provided that function and not the government.

The Catholic Church does not agree to the free flow of money without restriction (ie: taxes). The Church advocates that welfare be used to give the poor the means to lift themselves out of danger; in other words, the 'money' should be spent on programs such as education and infrastructure that intend the elimination of poverty. The causes of poverty must be targeted, not merely the symptoms.

Republicans have (historically) had a habit of cursing the welfare recipient and not the warmonger or crooked politico. Democrats seems to have a habit of blaming the businessman for anything though he pays for everything.

What is needed is a total re-thinking of welfare.
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Man, the effects of FoxNation nonsense are strong.
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Peter Brown wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:57 pm
holmes435 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:49 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:58 pm I also like that Anna explains that her extended family was on the taxapayer dole.....and then goes on to tell us that handouts are bad.
Just so everyone else doesn't have to dig through the site:


"A proud Hispanic-American of Mexican descent, Anna was raised in the lower-income neighborhoods of Southern California by a single mother. She is the antidote to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's claim that Americans cannot pull themselves up by their bootstraps."

"I grew up in the welfare system and have witnessed how it can be exploited."



On top of growing up on welfare, after attending public school she gets a job out of high school by joining the Air Force (taxpayer funded salary). She then used the GI Bill to attend a public university.

Man, she sure pulled herself up by her bootstraps with no government help at all. I certainly respect her work ethic and service to get where she is, but she is proving AOC's point.


Joining the Air Force is not welfare...you actually do have a job to perform, which you are underpaid to do.

And so far as the welfare her Mom was on, no one is demanding that we 'end welfare'...rather, that we re-incentivize it. No one knows better how welfare exploits the poor than someone who has actually been on it.

Republicans are on a big roll today and libs are scared, because these candidates deflate the preferred narrative. Byron Donalds, Anna Paulina Luna. Kimberly Klacik. These are actual rockstars, not whining lefty birdbrains. If you actually cared about equality and racial justice, you'd be cheering these three on, not trying to knock them down. But such is the life of a Democrat...all hat, no cattle.
I think you are kind of missing Holmes's point. Seems like it might be deliberate, but I gotta say, hard to tell.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:57 am Sure the DNC doesn't "pick" the winners and losers.
But they certainly stack the deck.
Please explain to me exactly how the DNC "stacks the deck".
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Let's review one of Kimberly Klacik's "ideas". This is idea #6 (of 6 total), "Economic Development":
Maximizing the economic impact of The Port of Baltimore and the I-270 Biotech corridor to generate thousands of Working class jobs and hundreds of small businesses is priority number 1.
OK, good!
Our opponents like to say never let a crisis go to waste, I agree with them on that point at this moment in time.
Tell me more!
The port is the second busiest in the country and has one of the best transportation networks on the east coast.
Good to know!
However it does not and will and Maryland has a robust Biotech industry with the National Institutes of Health NIH, Johns Hopkins, Bethesda Naval/Walter Reed and the FDA all located in the state.
What?
The multi billion Research and Development economy has a billion dollar medical supply chain waiting to be developed.
OK …
With a strong focus on workforce development for current city residents and “including” West Baltimore as an Opportunity zone, current residents will be able to participate and remain in the revitalization of the city of Baltimore.
Opportunity zone? Good thing there won't be any gubmint interference!
https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/ ... -questions
This National emergency has shown we have to bring the Billion Dollar medical equipment industry back to the US.
Great, how are you going to do it?
Locating it in the Baltimore region with it’s [sic] vast Port to ship products overseas and tremendous transportation network via roads and rail to deliver the goods stateside.
Hmmm ….
It compliments the research facilities in Montgomery County and Baltimore perfectly.
And so it will just magically appear once you've been elected?

So there we have it! A Republican "idea"!

Go check out some more of her "ideas" at

https://kimkforcongress.com/campaign-issues
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CU77 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:19 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:57 am Sure the DNC doesn't "pick" the winners and losers.
But they certainly stack the deck.
Please explain to me exactly how the DNC "stacks the deck".
They do it indirectly and directly.

Indirectly, the DNC sets the platform. And chooses who the party really supports and how far left are they going. Which candidate's policies does the platform match?

And then directly, DNC members are Superdelegates able to vote however they want during the convention.

And then there are 20K DNC emails on Wikileaks that revealed the DNC leadership went even further in 2016 when it handed Hillary the keys to the car over Bernie, giving Clinton access to the DNC's "Victory Fund" for the general election BEFORE she had won the primary. Donna Brazille corroborated it:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... 016-215774

So yes, the DNC has more than a little sway in who gets the nomination.
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CU77 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:35 pm Let's review one of Kimberly Klacik's "ideas". This is idea #6 (of 6 total), "Economic Development":
Maximizing the economic impact of The Port of Baltimore and the I-270 Biotech corridor to generate thousands of Working class jobs and hundreds of small businesses is priority number 1.
OK, good!
Our opponents like to say never let a crisis go to waste, I agree with them on that point at this moment in time.
Tell me more!
The port is the second busiest in the country and has one of the best transportation networks on the east coast.
Good to know!
However it does not and will and Maryland has a robust Biotech industry with the National Institutes of Health NIH, Johns Hopkins, Bethesda Naval/Walter Reed and the FDA all located in the state.
What?
The multi billion Research and Development economy has a billion dollar medical supply chain waiting to be developed.
OK …
With a strong focus on workforce development for current city residents and “including” West Baltimore as an Opportunity zone, current residents will be able to participate and remain in the revitalization of the city of Baltimore.
Opportunity zone? Good thing there won't be any gubmint interference!
https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/ ... -questions
This National emergency has shown we have to bring the Billion Dollar medical equipment industry back to the US.
Great, how are you going to do it?
Locating it in the Baltimore region with it’s [sic] vast Port to ship products overseas and tremendous transportation network via roads and rail to deliver the goods stateside.
Hmmm ….
It compliments the research facilities in Montgomery County and Baltimore perfectly.
And so it will just magically appear once you've been elected?

So there we have it! A Republican "idea"!

Go check out some more of her "ideas" at

https://kimkforcongress.com/campaign-issues
She makes perfect sense. And if you do not see the the local logistical and U.S. advantage to having the Inner Harbour, MoCo Bio-tech, ICC, and Wash DC all within 45 miles as the crow flies, then you are the type of partisan that is satisfied with the status quo of 5 decades of Baltimore.
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seacoaster wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:12 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:57 pm
holmes435 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:49 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:58 pm I also like that Anna explains that her extended family was on the taxapayer dole.....and then goes on to tell us that handouts are bad.
Just so everyone else doesn't have to dig through the site:


"A proud Hispanic-American of Mexican descent, Anna was raised in the lower-income neighborhoods of Southern California by a single mother. She is the antidote to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's claim that Americans cannot pull themselves up by their bootstraps."

"I grew up in the welfare system and have witnessed how it can be exploited."



On top of growing up on welfare, after attending public school she gets a job out of high school by joining the Air Force (taxpayer funded salary). She then used the GI Bill to attend a public university.

Man, she sure pulled herself up by her bootstraps with no government help at all. I certainly respect her work ethic and service to get where she is, but she is proving AOC's point.


Joining the Air Force is not welfare...you actually do have a job to perform, which you are underpaid to do.

And so far as the welfare her Mom was on, no one is demanding that we 'end welfare'...rather, that we re-incentivize it. No one knows better how welfare exploits the poor than someone who has actually been on it.

Republicans are on a big roll today and libs are scared, because these candidates deflate the preferred narrative. Byron Donalds, Anna Paulina Luna. Kimberly Klacik. These are actual rockstars, not whining lefty birdbrains. If you actually cared about equality and racial justice, you'd be cheering these three on, not trying to knock them down. But such is the life of a Democrat...all hat, no cattle.
I think you are kind of missing Holmes's point. Seems like it might be deliberate, but I gotta say, hard to tell.
His point was that if you're serving in the military, you're "on the taxpayer dole". Okie dokie.
Most of her peers don't qualify for military service.
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Can’t we agree you cannot vote for someone this stupid? The moron.

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youthathletics wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:54 pm She makes perfect sense. And if you do not see the the local logistical and U.S. advantage to having the Inner Harbour, MoCo Bio-tech, ICC, and Wash DC all within 45 miles as the crow flies, then you are the type of partisan that is satisfied with the status quo of 5 decades of Baltimore.
I see the advantages, as can anyone with a brain anywhere on the political spectrum.

So that's not the question. The question is, what is SHE going to do to make this economic growth happen?

Not a word about that.

More generally, people here were claiming she had ideas. So I read them.

It was a short read. Nothing but cliches and bad grammar.
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Peter Brown wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:24 pm We love Ron! Best governor in America! I think your 2024 Republican ticket will be Haley/Desantis.
So you are saying both Ron and Nikki want Trump to lose this year? If Trump wins, no way any Republican will get elected in 2024. Talk about change elections.

If Biden wins and doesn’t seek a second term, then I could see Nikki giving Kamala a run for her money. Would be an interesting race.

If Joe runs again, I think he might be tough to beat. If he decides to run, he will have concluded he is healthy enough and would win reelection. Otherwise, I think he would bow out.
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njbill wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:40 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:24 pm We love Ron! Best governor in America! I think your 2024 Republican ticket will be Haley/Desantis.
So you are saying both Ron and Nikki want Trump to lose this year? If Trump wins, no way any Republican will get elected in 2024. Talk about change elections.

If Biden wins and doesn’t seek a second term, then I could see Nikki giving Kamala a run for her money. Would be an interesting race.

If Joe runs again, I think he might be tough to beat. If he decides to run, he will have concluded he is healthy enough and would win reelection. Otherwise, I think he would bow out.


Joe won't last 4 years; they are hiding him very well, but when he is let out on his own, the cognitive skill decline is quite evident. And sad tbh.

Anyway, if Trump wins, I don't see why Nikki and Ron couldn't beat any Democrat in 2024, as the Democratic Party by then will be veering close to full fledged anti-Americanism. Now I know you think I am kidding, but I am dead serious; you can see already what is befalling the party. You guys just won't admit the obvious. How you keep the progressive wing from taking over is a near impossible ask.
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Joe won't last 4 years; they are hiding him very well, but when he is let out on his own, the cognitive skill decline is quite evident. And sad tbh.
:lol:

Joe is in significantly better shape (mentally and physically) than Trump. Also in better shape than second term Reagan (who obviously was suffering from dementia in the Oval).

With a team of experienced competents around him, Joe will have no problem finishing a four year term absent something from out of left field (accident, stroke, assassination, etc.). Which all presidents are at risk for.

Crazy how the Republicans are projecting onto Joe about this.
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Petey's back to prognosticating, after all he has such a stellar track record...whether in lax or Covid... :roll:
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