Race in America - Riots Explode in Chicago

[get it to x]

As long as we're cancelling all kinds of stuff,
can we cancel Peter Brown while we're at?
You know, just for being such an aszwhole
and spreading all kinds of falsehoods.

Gotta admit that he sure does a great job of making Republicans look dumb. While this is not an altogether difficult task to do, his work in this regard is truly noteworthy.

Hank Johnson (D - GA) thought Guam might tip over into the Pacific if we sent more military troops and equipment. The officer's skill in not losing it in the face of this basic assumption is commendable. Please find me the Republican equivalent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q

[6ftstick]

As long as we're cancelling all kinds of stuff,
can we cancel Peter Brown while we're at?
You know, just for being such an aszwhole
and spreading all kinds of falsehoods.

Gotta admit that he sure does a great job of making Republicans look dumb. While this is not an altogether difficult task to do, his work in this regard is truly noteworthy.

Hank Johnson (D - GA) thought Guam might tip over into the Pacific if we sent more military troops and equipment. The officer's skill in not losing it in the face of this basic assumption is commendable. Please find me the Republican equivalent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q

+1

[RedFromMI]

Actually - Columbus was pretty bad in some aspects. Arguably worse than some of our early founding forefather slaveholders.

Really good coverage of some of the horrible things he did can be found out there on the intertubes. All left out of what all of us got taught as school children.

Here is an example:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 94870.html

[RedFromMI]

As long as we're cancelling all kinds of stuff,
can we cancel Peter Brown while we're at?
You know, just for being such an aszwhole
and spreading all kinds of falsehoods.

Gotta admit that he sure does a great job of making Republicans look dumb. While this is not an altogether difficult task to do, his work in this regard is truly noteworthy.

Hank Johnson (D - GA) thought Guam might tip over into the Pacific if we sent more military troops and equipment. The officer's skill in not losing it in the face of this basic assumption is commendable. Please find me the Republican equivalent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q

Pretty much anything Louis Gohmert says qualifies...

[Brooklyn]

This is good news.

44 years eh? And you blame CONservatives for the pig cops being protected from legal action, rehpremands. ? When's the last time NYcity, or CONservtives, controlled the New York legislature? An pretend COnservative as Governor?

Dunno if you are old enough to remember Rockefeller, Malcolm Wilson, Earl Brydges, Perry Duryea, and a host of other Repukes who controlled much of the NYS legislature and the courts. Outside of NYC, Republicans have always been a large part of the voting population and are largely responsible for much of the legislation that exists there.

[cradleandshoot]

I love the ignore function... no need to read stupid chit from stupid people.

[Matnum PI]

I agree 100% on public buildings they have no right to be displayed. The problem is that some folks feel the same way about Washington, Adams and Jefferson. If people have a legitimate gripe do we tear down the Washington monument? Where do we as a country now draw the line to appease people that are offended?

If we only created statues of people who were upstanding citizens in all ways, there'd be no statues. Humans are imperfect. The issue is when the statue is being created to celebrate this specific fallibility. A fault which some people don't see as a fault at all but worthy of celebrating. That's a problem. And that's the real issue. Trump can say, Who's next, Washington?! And it seems like a worthy question, but it's not really a question. It's an attack. What he (and others) are really saying is, All our heroes have flaws! Stop going after mine! And... We need to go after these "heroes".

[CU88]

It is almost as if the r's are liars...

No Sign Of Antifa So Far In Justice Department Cases Brought Over Unrest
June 9, 20203:57 PM ET

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/09/87327831 ... witter.com

[cradleandshoot]

As long as we're cancelling all kinds of stuff,
can we cancel Peter Brown while we're at?
You know, just for being such an aszwhole
and spreading all kinds of falsehoods.

Gotta admit that he sure does a great job of making Republicans look dumb. While this is not an altogether difficult task to do, his work in this regard is truly noteworthy.

Hank Johnson (D - GA) thought Guam might tip over into the Pacific if we sent more military troops and equipment. The officer's skill in not losing it in the face of this basic assumption is commendable. Please find me the Republican equivalent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q

almost forgot about that... good thing for the world Guam never did tip over. Hey... you never know.

[get it to x]

Watching Minneapolis Police Chief Arradondo's press conference right now. He is an impressive guy who is in a tight spot. He stated he has broken off talks with the union over a new contract. Looking at many opinions on here, it looks like there are a meaningful majority who feel union reform is one of the big issues. I am, and have always been about a meritocracy. Unions to me are a lot of what is wrong with all government services, not just public safety. Federal employees get automatic raises and bonuses not tethered to any performance metric, just years in service.

Citizens and taxpayers deserve responsive, effective and efficient government. I am not against a fair wage and benefit package, but the BS that supervisors go through to remove non-performing or even insubordinate employees is so difficult that many times the employee is transferred, only to become someone else's problem.

Citizens and taxpayers also deserve to not fear their public servants, whether they be the IRS or the police or our elected representatives. We need to make it easier to "take out the trash".

[cradleandshoot]

I agree 100% on public buildings they have no right to be displayed. The problem is that some folks feel the same way about Washington, Adams and Jefferson. If people have a legitimate gripe do we tear down the Washington monument? Where do we as a country now draw the line to appease people that are offended?

If we only created statues of people who were upstanding citizens in all ways, there'd be no statues. Humans are imperfect. The issue is when the statue is being created to celebrate this specific fallibility. A fault which some people don't see as a fault at all but worthy of celebrating. That's a problem. And that's the real issue. Trump can say, Who's next, Washington?! And it seems like a worthy question, but it's not really a question. It's an attack. What he (and others) are really saying is, All our heroes have flaws! Stop going after mine! And... We need to go after these "heroes".

So some clarification... when does the Washington monument become part of the bullseye?

[get it to x]

As long as we're cancelling all kinds of stuff,
can we cancel Peter Brown while we're at?
You know, just for being such an aszwhole
and spreading all kinds of falsehoods.

Gotta admit that he sure does a great job of making Republicans look dumb. While this is not an altogether difficult task to do, his work in this regard is truly noteworthy.

Hank Johnson (D - GA) thought Guam might tip over into the Pacific if we sent more military troops and equipment. The officer's skill in not losing it in the face of this basic assumption is commendable. Please find me the Republican equivalent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q

Pretty much anything Louis Gohmert says qualifies...

Citation, please.

[RedFromMI]

As long as we're cancelling all kinds of stuff,
can we cancel Peter Brown while we're at?
You know, just for being such an aszwhole
and spreading all kinds of falsehoods.

Gotta admit that he sure does a great job of making Republicans look dumb. While this is not an altogether difficult task to do, his work in this regard is truly noteworthy.

Hank Johnson (D - GA) thought Guam might tip over into the Pacific if we sent more military troops and equipment. The officer's skill in not losing it in the face of this basic assumption is commendable. Please find me the Republican equivalent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q

Pretty much anything Louis Gohmert says qualifies...

Citation, please.

Here is an article from 2013:

https://www.houstonpress.com/news/the-f ... es-6740337

Took 5 seconds on google to find this...(Louis Gohmert stupid)... lots of other links

[cradleandshoot]

Watching Minneapolis Police Chief Arradondo's press conference right now. He is an impressive guy who is in a tight spot. He stated he has broken off talks with the union over a new contract. Looking at many opinions on here, it looks like there are a meaningful majority who feel union reform is one of the big issues. I am, and have always been about a meritocracy. Unions to me are a lot of what is wrong with all government services, not just public safety. Federal employees get automatic raises and bonuses not tethered to any performance metric, just years in service.

Citizens and taxpayers deserve responsive, effective and efficient government. I am not against a fair wage and benefit package, but the BS that supervisors go through to remove non-performing or even insubordinate employees is so difficult that many times the employee is transferred, only to become someone else's problem.

Citizens and taxpayers also deserve to not fear their public servants, whether they be the IRS or the police or our elected representatives. We need to make it easier to "take out the trash".

Since this is the route we are now traveling down... time to eliminate tenure amongst all teachers as well. Hell it takes an act of Congress to try and get rid of a bad teacher. Why should a bad teacher be treated any different than a bad cop. You can ignore the obvious double standard all you want. The bottom line never changes. UNION POWER...

[old salt]

The NYPD cop charged with pushing/assaulting/injuring a woman protester was a Ward Mehville laxer who reportedly played at Kean College before serving in the USMC. A video showing her approaching the cop, before he shoved her away, was initially posted on social media. I saw it in the initial tv coverage. It has now magically been disapperared.
https://heavy.com/news/2020/06/vincent-dandraia/

Common thread with the Buffalo push assault. In both cases the police were advancing as a unit, clearing the street or sidewalk, when a protester approached them, entered their personal safety space, blocking them, taking video of the police officer with their cell phones.

Police officers now need to be prepared for encounters with video warrior provocateur protesters who enter their personal safety space, trying to generate an incident captured on video. In both these cases, these 2 provocateurs got the confrontation they sought, but they were not prepared for the consequences of their actions when invading a police officer's personal safety space in a confrontational manner.

Are you ok?

You are now referring to a 75 year old man who regularly volunteers his time for catholic charities as a "provocateur". Sad.

Did he present his AARP card ? What difference does it make what he does with his spare time ? He confronted the cops, got in their face & was clearly confrontational. He wasn't asking for directions to the senior center.

[6ftstick]

Numbers published by Open Secrets, which is run by the watchdog Center for Responsive Politics, shows the top two recipients of contributions from police groups in the Senate are Sens. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., and Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn. The top two in the House are Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr., D-N.J., and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md.

Defund the Police!

[cradleandshoot]

The NYPD cop charged with pushing/assaulting/injuring a woman protester was a Ward Mehville laxer who reportedly played at Kean College before serving in the USMC. A video showing her approaching the cop, before he shoved her away, was initially posted on social media. I saw it in the initial tv coverage. It has now magically been disapperared.
https://heavy.com/news/2020/06/vincent-dandraia/

Common thread with the Buffalo push assault. In both cases the police were advancing as a unit, clearing the street or sidewalk, when a protester approached them, entered their personal safety space, blocking them, taking video of the police officer with their cell phones.

Police officers now need to be prepared for encounters with video warrior provocateur protesters who enter their personal safety space, trying to generate an incident captured on video. In both these cases, these 2 provocateurs got the confrontation they sought, but they were not prepared for the consequences of their actions when invading a police officer's personal safety space in a confrontational manner.

Are you ok?

You are now referring to a 75 year old man who regularly volunteers his time for catholic charities as a "provocateur". Sad.

Did he present his AARP card ? What difference does it make what he does with his spare time ? He confronted the cops, got in their face & was clearly confrontational. He wasn't asking for directions to the senior center.

+1 The police trying to clear the streets had no idea who he was or what his intentions were. If you don't want to be pushed on your ass... don't get into the cops grill and talk chit to him. Sorry there old timer, you learned a lesson the hard way. I hope he is okay but his own stupid actions were the cause if his injuries.


For the record, my wife and I argued about this for way to long last night. When I asked my wife if the old guy had pulled out a gun and shot the cop in the head would that have changed her opinion. She finally got the message.

[get it to x]

As long as we're cancelling all kinds of stuff,
can we cancel Peter Brown while we're at?
You know, just for being such an aszwhole
and spreading all kinds of falsehoods.

Gotta admit that he sure does a great job of making Republicans look dumb. While this is not an altogether difficult task to do, his work in this regard is truly noteworthy.

Hank Johnson (D - GA) thought Guam might tip over into the Pacific if we sent more military troops and equipment. The officer's skill in not losing it in the face of this basic assumption is commendable. Please find me the Republican equivalent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q

Pretty much anything Louis Gohmert says qualifies...

Citation, please.

Here is an article from 2013:

https://www.houstonpress.com/news/the-f ... es-6740337

Took 5 seconds on google to find this...(Louis Gohmert stupid)... lots of other links

Some of these a pretty dumb or ignorant but he's still "down a lap" to Hank Johnson.

[MDlaxfan76]

I agree 100% on public buildings they have no right to be displayed. The problem is that some folks feel the same way about Washington, Adams and Jefferson. If people have a legitimate gripe do we tear down the Washington monument? Where do we as a country now draw the line to appease people that are offended?

If we only created statues of people who were upstanding citizens in all ways, there'd be no statues. Humans are imperfect. The issue is when the statue is being created to celebrate this specific fallibility. A fault which some people don't see as a fault at all but worthy of celebrating. That's a problem. And that's the real issue. Trump can say, Who's next, Washington?! And it seems like a worthy question, but it's not really a question. It's an attack. What he (and others) are really saying is, All our heroes have flaws! Stop going after mine! And... We need to go after these "heroes".

So some clarification... when does the Washington monument become part of the bullseye?

Let's see, cradle...you actually find an equivalency between monuments erected to founders of this country and those who specifically fought to tear it apart...on behalf of maintaining slavery???

Put that aside, monuments erected specifically by avowed racists on behalf of white supremacy and Jim Crow in order to intimidate?

Certainly there must be some idiots on the extreme left who would conflate these, but I sure hear a lot more false equivalency coming out of the mouths of right wingers than I do these evil lefties that some seem so worried will erase all history.

Of course, perhaps that's why I'm a fiscally conservative leaning, socially progressive leaning moderate...it's the extremes which want to erase or whitewash history...

There's an enormous difference between having an honest appraisal of the full dimensionality of our predecessors, indeed an honest and fulsome understanding of history, and the maintenance of monuments to the worst of that history.... erected specifically by the worst of that history.

We can discern the difference, right?

[holmes435]

White House Interns from two administrations.