All things Chinese CoronaVirus

[Kismet]

You imagine yourself as Dolores Kearns Goodman, except you're even more tedious than she is.

What is your issue with "Dolores"?

First...it is Doris Kearns Goodwin and you aren't bright enough to get that correct. And you are certainly not bright enough to understand what she talks about in many of her books. But perhaps you can't READ either.

[a fan]

Boys, I know you're a little scared right now, a little fearful of the unknown, but one constant in life which should always make you sleep well at night is the free market always comes through! (see link...help is on the way). Advancements and improvements never rest.

Um, I like where your head is at....but you realize that every lab outside of the US is in a socialist country.

And in the US, where do you think R&D funding comes from? The sky? Or (snicker) venture capital? Nope. The pinko commie US government. Stop pretending like that's not the case.

Let's meet in Bmore this September for some crabs and beer. I'm buying (I saved a bundle on some bets I might have not won about the Hounds' defensive efficiency, so feeling a bit more flush than otherwise).

If there's a meetup, and we have a vaccine? I'll come out, and I'll buy for the whole evening. And you and I can laugh about all the things we agree on.....

[Matnum PI]

Not sure if anyone posted this, but a pretty interesting bit of privacy-obliterating corona-tracking from Spring Break:

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/ ... orkers?amp

The information that our phones give off is great information. As is our information about what websites we frequent, who our digital contacts are, our DNA, etc. I feel like these pieces are demonized when the real demons are the people who use this information for nefarious purposes. But the information itself is good.

[old salt]

You imagine yourself as Dolores Kearns Goodman, except you're even more tedious than she is.

What is your issue with "Dolores"?

First, TROLl...it is Doris Kearns Goodwin and you aren't bright enough to get that correct. And you are certainly not bright enough to understand what she talks about in many of her books. But perhaps you can't READ either, moron.

...even more tedious. You misspelled troll, or is that your version ?

[admin]

Kismet (and all), let's avoid the personal attacks...

[foreverlax]

You imagine yourself as Dolores Kearns Goodman, except you're even more tedious than she is.

What is your issue with "Dolores"?

First, TROLl...it is Doris Kearns Goodwin and you aren't bright enough to get that correct. And you are certainly not bright enough to understand what she talks about in many of her books. But perhaps you can't READ either, moron.

...even more tedious. You misspelled troll, or is that your version ?

So for no reason...gottcha.

[Typical Lax Dad]

You imagine yourself as Dolores Kearns Goodman, except you're even more tedious than she is.

What is your issue with "Dolores"?

First, TROLl...it is Doris Kearns Goodwin and you aren't bright enough to get that correct. And you are certainly not bright enough to understand what she talks about in many of her books. But perhaps you can't READ either, moron.

...even more tedious. You misspelled troll, or is that your version ?

actually the letters are correct. The case is inconsistent.

[Peter Brown]

Boys, I know you're a little scared right now, a little fearful of the unknown, but one constant in life which should always make you sleep well at night is the free market always comes through! (see link...help is on the way). Advancements and improvements never rest.

Um, I like where your head is at....but you realize that every lab outside of the US is in a socialist country.

And in the US, where do you think R&D funding comes from? The sky? Or (snicker) venture capital? Nope. The pinko commie US government. Stop pretending like that's not the case.

Let's meet in Bmore this September for some crabs and beer. I'm buying (I saved a bundle on some bets I might have not won about the Hounds' defensive efficiency, so feeling a bit more flush than otherwise).

If there's a meetup, and we have a vaccine? I'll come out, and I'll buy for the whole evening. And you and I can laugh about all the things we agree on.....

I agree that skiing in Colorado is far and away the best skiing in the universe!

[ggait]

You imagine yourself as Dolores Kearns Goodman, except you're even more tedious than she is.

Presumably that is the robot/host version.

[njbill]

Boris Johnson has been moved to intensive care. Not on a ventilator at this point.

[Andersen]

Didn't Johnson proclaim that he wouldn't let the Coronavirus stop him from shaking hands?

[holmes435]

Didn't Johnson proclaim that he wouldn't let the Coronavirus stop him from shaking hands?

It's physically painful to watch:

[Trinity]

What are odds a guy who used to brag-call newspapers as John Barron would hire a guy who quotes himself as Ron Vara?

[MDlaxfan76]

jeez, how about some cheese with all that whine for the lobbyist?

We're all rooting for Esper to rise to the challenge...we need his very best.
But here's been absolutely nothing in his performance since taking the job that lends much confidence that he's not just another political sycophant.

Yeah sure. It's obvious how much you're rooting for him.
Good thing you weren't packing his chute when he was a paratrooper.
He was on active duty for 10 years (including combat in the Gulf War) & 11 more years in the Army Guard & Reserves.
To you he's just a lobbyist.

Drain the swamp.

No, my issue isn't whether he's an experienced, competent fellow (he's certainly more competent than lots of Trump appointees) but that he's a Trump loyalist, which means hiding the truth and "I'm just following orders".

You spent the first two years of Trump's tenure telling us not to worry about Trump because he had such outstanding people at Defense, at DNI, etc.

Esper was one of those outstanding people. He's been in the Trump Admin since 2017. Mattis selected him to lead the Army. He was the Trump Admin's first permanent Secy of the Army. He has served the vast majority of his career in govt service, in the military, in DoD jobs or as a Senate defense staffer for, among others, future SecDef Chuch Hagel. He has a long, distinguished DoD & GOP pedigree. You turn on anyone who makes the sacrifice to serve under Trump because you want Trump to fail & you don't care about the negative consequences for the country. The govt has to continue to function, regardless of who's the CinC.

Nope...I just have a problem with anyone thinking "serving" their country means serving Trump.
We know that's what Trump thinks, so I need to be confident that they'll actually stand up to him.

You clearly don't see the same issue.

[Peter Brown]

I might not agree with RRR's Bill Gates's paranoia, but I do like the sound of this:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bill-gat ... 51369.html

I love capitalism. Only in capitalist societies does man shine as bright.

Back to work!

[cradleandshoot]

The media hid FDR's paralysis his entire Presidency.
Trump would be called a liar for trying to conceal it from the public.
How was FDR's messaging on the internment camps ?

Not just FDR. Literally all presidents lie. Most every, if not every, politician lies. It's just a reality of the industry. With this said, Trump's lying is not like most anything we've seen before. Certainly in my life time. Politicians have had bigger lies. but in terms of how blatant the lies are and how often they're shared, Trump is off the charts.

The "media hid FDR's paralysis"????
BS.

There was NO ONE who didn't know of FDR's physical issue.
The degree of pain he was in, probably not, but absolutely everyone knew he was in a wheel chair.

Show us contemporary media images of FDR in a wheelchair.
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-fdr ... ing-2019-4

Some additional information on FDR and his polio from someone who is eminently more qualified to opine than either you or me - historian Geoffrey C Ward. It appears the press did not as actively contribute to the myth as Roosevelt and his handlers did in presenting the President to the public.

"The man who used a wheelchair and couldn’t get to the bathroom on his own “made everyone believe he stood up to greet them,” Mr. Ward said. “He was an absolute magician.”

The modern view “is to see a kind of conspiracy on the part of Franklin Roosevelt to hide the fact that he had this disability from the public,” Mr. Woolner said.

But he added that the public was well aware of his polio; there were fund-raisers every year for research into the disease. What the public didn’t know, he said, “was the extent of his disability,” his ability to put people at ease somehow convincing them that he had overcome it.

Political necessity required an image of strength and health while running for election as the country struggled with the Depression...."

Watch this clip from PBS series "The Roosevelts" and you will note that Ward nearly breaks down after describing Roosevelt's initial situation after contracting polio - Ward, it seems also contracted polio as a child.



You might also get some insight on leadership and how to project a positive image to people in a crisis when you're simultaneously in a personal crisis of your own and scraed sh*tless yourself

Yes, FDR was a flawed person (aren't we all in some ways) but IMHO he ably led the country through two of its greatest crises regardless of his personal shortcomings . Sadly for all of us, none of this applies to the current occupant of the WH.

Blah blah blah. FDR's courage is irrelevant.
Simple question -- did contemporary media show images of FDR in a wheelchair or not ?

so sez one of the shallowest suckups here. To quote you - TROLL!!!!!!!!!L

You imagine yourself as Dolores Kearns Goodman, except you're even more tedious than she is.

you have a brilliant sense of humor there Old Salt. As they would say in the snobbish world of tennis... game...set and match

[Jim Malone]

Count me in, hop skip and a jump on Acela from Penn.

I'll inquire if our home village person of distinction, South Side High School alumnae, Doris Kearns Goodwin is around to take a ride!

Boys, I know you're a little scared right now, a little fearful of the unknown, but one constant in life which should always make you sleep well at night is the free market always comes through! (see link...help is on the way). Advancements and improvements never rest.

Um, I like where your head is at....but you realize that every lab outside of the US is in a socialist country.

And in the US, where do you think R&D funding comes from? The sky? Or (snicker) venture capital? Nope. The pinko commie US government. Stop pretending like that's not the case.

Let's meet in Bmore this September for some crabs and beer. I'm buying (I saved a bundle on some bets I might have not won about the Hounds' defensive efficiency, so feeling a bit more flush than otherwise).

If there's a meetup, and we have a vaccine? I'll come out, and I'll buy for the whole evening. And you and I can laugh about all the things we agree on.....

[Trinity]

NEW: U.S. Senator David Perdue (R-Ga.) bought stock in medical PPE producer DuPont de Nemours on Jan. 24, the same day the Senate received a classified Coronavirus briefing.

Kleptocracy 2020

Did Perdue warn Georgians? heck no. No more thanLoeffler or Governor Kemp.

I thought Cortez was a killer.

[old salt]

My tax preparer bought 3M as soon as the first community spread case popped in the US in Jan.
She had no inside info. She just pays attention to the news.
I hope the SEC doesn't come for her before she finishes my return.
I can't afford to hire Jim Malone to bail me out.

[foreverlax]

The media hid FDR's paralysis his entire Presidency.
Trump would be called a liar for trying to conceal it from the public.
How was FDR's messaging on the internment camps ?

Not just FDR. Literally all presidents lie. Most every, if not every, politician lies. It's just a reality of the industry. With this said, Trump's lying is not like most anything we've seen before. Certainly in my life time. Politicians have had bigger lies. but in terms of how blatant the lies are and how often they're shared, Trump is off the charts.

The "media hid FDR's paralysis"????
BS.

There was NO ONE who didn't know of FDR's physical issue.
The degree of pain he was in, probably not, but absolutely everyone knew he was in a wheel chair.

Show us contemporary media images of FDR in a wheelchair.
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-fdr ... ing-2019-4

Some additional information on FDR and his polio from someone who is eminently more qualified to opine than either you or me - historian Geoffrey C Ward. It appears the press did not as actively contribute to the myth as Roosevelt and his handlers did in presenting the President to the public.

"The man who used a wheelchair and couldn’t get to the bathroom on his own “made everyone believe he stood up to greet them,” Mr. Ward said. “He was an absolute magician.”

The modern view “is to see a kind of conspiracy on the part of Franklin Roosevelt to hide the fact that he had this disability from the public,” Mr. Woolner said.

But he added that the public was well aware of his polio; there were fund-raisers every year for research into the disease. What the public didn’t know, he said, “was the extent of his disability,” his ability to put people at ease somehow convincing them that he had overcome it.

Political necessity required an image of strength and health while running for election as the country struggled with the Depression...."

Watch this clip from PBS series "The Roosevelts" and you will note that Ward nearly breaks down after describing Roosevelt's initial situation after contracting polio - Ward, it seems also contracted polio as a child.



You might also get some insight on leadership and how to project a positive image to people in a crisis when you're simultaneously in a personal crisis of your own and scraed sh*tless yourself

Yes, FDR was a flawed person (aren't we all in some ways) but IMHO he ably led the country through two of its greatest crises regardless of his personal shortcomings . Sadly for all of us, none of this applies to the current occupant of the WH.

Blah blah blah. FDR's courage is irrelevant.
Simple question -- did contemporary media show images of FDR in a wheelchair or not ?

so sez one of the shallowest suckups here. To quote you - TROLL!!!!!!!!!L

You imagine yourself as Dolores Kearns Goodman, except you're even more tedious than she is.

you have a brilliant sense of humor there Old Salt. As they would say in the snobbish world of tennis... game...set and match

Some people think farting is funny.