Totally BS. The liberal left nut jobs and their mouth piece (media) are making this a crisis like they do with everything. Noone talks or reports about the 20,000 people in America who die from the flu every year but lets tank the economy and scare half of America. Figures, most of the closures will emenate from NY, CT, Mass, Cali, etc., All the states that run by Dems. The first schools to shut down? Private schools operated by who? You guessed it. Cant we just be reasonable and due our own due diligence with personal hygiene and listen to the experts, like the CDC?
Something tells me the media and Dems will say we are all ok after November, unless Mr. Trump wins again. Then the crying and whining will go full wackjob and Trump Derangement Syndrome will be the next crisis.
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For those who have free views left at NYT - check out this excellent tutorial explaining how the Cov19 virus works in your body
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... e=Homepage
Its worth your time to read
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... e=Homepage
Its worth your time to read
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This is all an issue of TRUST. The CDC trusts certain organizations, state DOH, specific certified clinical laboratories. If the CDC TRUSTS an organization, that organization can get test kits and run the tests. If the CDC runs a test, they report the number if and only if the test is positive. If it is negative or inconclusive, they say nothing. If a DOH or a lab they have contracted runs the test, the DOH reports the results to the public. The contract lab is irrelevant in reporting results to the public. The DOH of each state reports all cases for the state, no matter who ran the test; themselves, a contract lab or the CDC. The state DOH is the final arbiter of how many cases have occurred in their state. By the same token the state DOHs are responsible for reporting all their number back to the feds. The CDC could report all of this to the public, but they don't. They report (partial results only) for the tests they have run.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:19 amUnderstood...which is why I have been questioning the integrity of a positive CV19 test that was NOT verified by CDC.jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:17 amThey send their test materials, swabs and serum to a testing center via their State Department of Health OR directly to the CDC. The DoH AND the CDC have the ability to contract outside labs (certified) to actually perform the test. The CDC can run the test themselves as can all the various DoH if they choose.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:20 amThanks. I found this while doing some reading this morning. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... ories.htmlTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:13 amNo. After screening for run of the mill coronavirus, if positive, the test is run for Covid-19. It’s a PCR based test.
I am still baffled why the CDC number differs so much (lower). Maybe it is because the test kits have not reached all the parts of US...and if that is the case, then how do those rural areas certify it is in fact CV19.
At present, no healthcare providers are certified to run the tests themselves. That will change at some point in the future.
This is confusing. It does not have to be this way - the CDC not reporting complete data sets.
PS - this is why the Hopkins site (and others like it, if reliable) are useful. JHU is taking their data from the state DOHs. It is also useful to see what is going on around the world.
PSS - the commercial site (actually a student CS project at Manchester University in the UK) is now in synch with JHU. As guessed, they have switched over to a state based reporting protocol from a county based reporting protocol.
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From the D1 WLax forum:
livelovelax wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:28 am Totally BS. The liberal left nut jobs and their mouth piece (media) are making this a crisis like they do with everything. Noone talks or reports about the 20,000 people in America who die from the flu every year but lets tank the economy and scare half of America. Figures, most of the closures will emenate from NY, CT, Mass, Cali, etc., All the states that run by Dems. The first schools to shut down? Private schools operated by who? You guessed it. Cant we just be reasonable and due our own due diligence with personal hygiene and listen to the experts, like the CDC?
Something tells me the media and Dems will say we are all ok after November, unless Mr. Trump wins again. Then the crying and whining will go full wackjob and Trump Derangement Syndrome will be the next crisis.
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It would be funny if it weren’t such a travesty and a danger to us all. There was a story the other day about a family who had a kid test positive. The kid was isolated but the family, with extensive contact, went to their organized activities. Sort of like why we have measles again. People do talk about the flu and the importance of getting a flu shot etc. one oath this thing could take if ti beck e am I going thing
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Now 1,000 confirmed cases. Yesterday fewer than 6,000 tested. t least three countries have drive thru on demand testing with results in 15 minutes. WHO had tests and offered them but the CDC declined. I am wondering whether getting testing wasn’t the highest priority
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Tweet of the day
"Stay six feet apart to avoid going six feet under"
"Stay six feet apart to avoid going six feet under"
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You want to know what Wall Street likes, truth and knowledge on a situation. You know what we are NOT getting from o d?
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN20Y2LM
Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN20Y2LM
by cradleandshoot » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:57 am
Mr moderator, deactivate my account.
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American cowboy-ism. We do everything better. You can't trust liberal organizations like the WHO.OCanada wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:36 pm Now 1,000 confirmed cases. Yesterday fewer than 6,000 tested. t least three countries have drive thru on demand testing with results in 15 minutes. WHO had tests and offered them but the CDC declined. I am wondering whether getting testing wasn’t the highest priority
Dumb f**k American's starting with the bunch in the White House. Orange Duce should change his hat to read "Making America Third World Again".
The good news, some of these old Trumpnista aren't long for this world. Their own worldviews will contribute to their deaths.
The Trump people, being the great businessmen they are, saw this as a business opportunity. They very likely saw IP dollars in all of this (for the US). Not being smart enough to know it doesn't work like that.
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Instructive chart from former Deputy DHS secretary Julliette Kayyem at the Kennedy School at Harvard
It appears to be channeling some of what Dr. Fauci has been alluding to of late
It appears to be channeling some of what Dr. Fauci has been alluding to of late
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Ah, FoxNation is a lovely place, isn't it? Amazed that the American media is so powerful that they managed to shut down the entire country of Italy, and utterly overwhelm Italy's health infrastructure.holmes435 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:26 pm From the D1 WLax forum:
livelovelax wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:28 am Totally BS. The liberal left nut jobs and their mouth piece (media) are making this a crisis like they do with everything. Noone talks or reports about the 20,000 people in America who die from the flu every year but lets tank the economy and scare half of America. Figures, most of the closures will emenate from NY, CT, Mass, Cali, etc., All the states that run by Dems. The first schools to shut down? Private schools operated by who? You guessed it. Cant we just be reasonable and due our own due diligence with personal hygiene and listen to the experts, like the CDC?
Something tells me the media and Dems will say we are all ok after November, unless Mr. Trump wins again. Then the crying and whining will go full wackjob and Trump Derangement Syndrome will be the next crisis.
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What don't you get? Italy is fake news - damn liberal media. Italy is just fine.a fan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:14 pmAh, FoxNation is a lovely place, isn't it? Amazed that the American media is so powerful that they managed to shut down the entire country of Italy, and utterly overwhelm Italy's health infrastructure.holmes435 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:26 pm From the D1 WLax forum:
livelovelax wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:28 am Totally BS. The liberal left nut jobs and their mouth piece (media) are making this a crisis like they do with everything. Noone talks or reports about the 20,000 people in America who die from the flu every year but lets tank the economy and scare half of America. Figures, most of the closures will emenate from NY, CT, Mass, Cali, etc., All the states that run by Dems. The first schools to shut down? Private schools operated by who? You guessed it. Cant we just be reasonable and due our own due diligence with personal hygiene and listen to the experts, like the CDC?
Something tells me the media and Dems will say we are all ok after November, unless Mr. Trump wins again. Then the crying and whining will go full wackjob and Trump Derangement Syndrome will be the next crisis.
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It's Obama's fault.
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
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WHO has declared a pandemic. Testing materials? Who needs those when you can wait for someone to make a profit. Turns out administration was classifying data and it suppressed our response.
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"I mean, people always say, well, the flu, you know, the flu does this, the flu does that. The flu has a mortality of 0.1%. This is ten times that. That's the reason I want to emphasize we have to stay ahead of the game," Dr. Fauci tells House Oversight Committee.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... fauci-says
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... fauci-says
by cradleandshoot » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:57 am
Mr moderator, deactivate my account.
You have heck this forum up to making it nothing more than a joke. I hope you are happy.
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Mr moderator, deactivate my account.
You have heck this forum up to making it nothing more than a joke. I hope you are happy.
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One daughter-in-law has to close her Newark charter school—a teacher was exposed, taught for days before he knew. My son’s head coach is in quarantine for exposure and their season hangs in the balance. And my daughter’s supply of tutors from Fordham for the Bronx Lacrosse kids has dried up. This is a mess without testing.
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When will it be socially acceptable to call people stupid? Asking for a friend.a fan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:14 pmAh, FoxNation is a lovely place, isn't it? Amazed that the American media is so powerful that they managed to shut down the entire country of Italy, and utterly overwhelm Italy's health infrastructure.holmes435 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:26 pm From the D1 WLax forum:
livelovelax wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:28 am Totally BS. The liberal left nut jobs and their mouth piece (media) are making this a crisis like they do with everything. Noone talks or reports about the 20,000 people in America who die from the flu every year but lets tank the economy and scare half of America. Figures, most of the closures will emenate from NY, CT, Mass, Cali, etc., All the states that run by Dems. The first schools to shut down? Private schools operated by who? You guessed it. Cant we just be reasonable and due our own due diligence with personal hygiene and listen to the experts, like the CDC?
Something tells me the media and Dems will say we are all ok after November, unless Mr. Trump wins again. Then the crying and whining will go full wackjob and Trump Derangement Syndrome will be the next crisis.
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Yasha Mounk has a thread which translates an Italian document w links to it. It gets to the point of how decisions need to be made when health facilities are overwhelmed which can happen in rural America which is already underserved in healthcare.
Doctors and nurses in Italy face an impossible dilemma: who to treat and who to let die.
But the moral obligation we face is very clear: We must arrest the crisis before the impossible becomes unavoidable. We aren’t doing well at this
Doctors and nurses in Italy face an impossible dilemma: who to treat and who to let die.
But the moral obligation we face is very clear: We must arrest the crisis before the impossible becomes unavoidable. We aren’t doing well at this
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What are we not doing well, that we should be doing?
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
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“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard