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youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:34 pm Likely less expensive than Bernies plan.


Not really if you consider the blood tax paid in terms of human lives lost due to lack of coverage under Trump care. Republican death panels sure can get the job done quite effectively.
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Yale study shows how Medicare will save money and 68,000 lives every year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxWdsEq ... =emb_title




The blood tax will be greatly reduced while Republican death panels will be given a kick in the pants. Says one commentator:


Iraq war paid for with our taxes: Silence
•Afghan war paid for with our taxes: Silence
•Bailing out Wall Street and our corrupt banking system with our tax money: Silence
•Giving a $1.5 trillion tax break to the top 1%: Silence
•Bombing Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia all without the approval of congress: Silence
•Billion dollar subsidies given to Big Oil, Big Tech, and health insurance companies paid for with our taxes: Silence
•$760 Billion dollar per year military budget: Silence
•Most incarcerations per capital on a global scale: Silence
•$7-10 Trillion spent on war since 2001: Silence




•Investing in Healthcare and education: That’s when the media and our politicians say that we can’t afford it and ask where will the money come from...
Just the other day, in a major medical publication, some researchers from Yale university, pointed out in a major article, that M4A will save us 450 billion dollars a year and save 68,000 LIVES




YALE UNIVERSITY MAJOR ARTICLE, MEDICARE 4 ALL will save us 450 BILLION dollars a year and save 68,000 LIVES!





Every word of it, 100% truth.
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Brooklyn wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:57 am Yale study shows how Medicare will save money and 68,000 lives every year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxWdsEq ... =emb_title




The blood tax will be greatly reduced while Republican death panels will be given a kick in the pants. Says one commentator:


Iraq war paid for with our taxes: Silence
•Afghan war paid for with our taxes: Silence
•Bailing out Wall Street and our corrupt banking system with our tax money: Silence
•Giving a $1.5 trillion tax break to the top 1%: Silence
•Bombing Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia all without the approval of congress: Silence
•Billion dollar subsidies given to Big Oil, Big Tech, and health insurance companies paid for with our taxes: Silence
•$760 Billion dollar per year military budget: Silence
•Most incarcerations per capital on a global scale: Silence
•$7-10 Trillion spent on war since 2001: Silence




•Investing in Healthcare and education: That’s when the media and our politicians say that we can’t afford it and ask where will the money come from...
Just the other day, in a major medical publication, some researchers from Yale university, pointed out in a major article, that M4A will save us 450 billion dollars a year and save 68,000 LIVES




YALE UNIVERSITY MAJOR ARTICLE, MEDICARE 4 ALL will save us 450 BILLION dollars a year and save 68,000 LIVES!





Every word of it, 100% truth.


Yup. Yale study is only one of many equally good studies coming to the same conclusion. Every other western democracy came to that conclusion long ago. We lag them in outcomes. This is demonstrated over and over again. They do this while spending less per capita as a society.
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What good is keeping your current health plan if there’s no place to go because it’s no longer profitable. It’s particularly acute in the states like Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee and other rural states that have refused Medicaid expansion.

Rural Hospitals Closing at an Alarming Rate
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ ... -closing#1
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ardilla secreta wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:06 am What good is keeping your current health plan if there’s no place to go because it’s no longer profitable. It’s particularly acute in the states like Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee and other rural states that have refused Medicaid expansion.

Rural Hospitals Closing at an Alarming Rate
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ ... -closing#1
Yup, and it is getting worse.
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jhu72 wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:17 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:06 am What good is keeping your current health plan if there’s no place to go because it’s no longer profitable. It’s particularly acute in the states like Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee and other rural states that have refused Medicaid expansion.

Rural Hospitals Closing at an Alarming Rate
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ ... -closing#1
Yup, and it is getting worse.
Hospitals may be closing but there are a bunch of smaller satellite medical facilities going up around the country primarily in rural america. This is where construction is less expensive and urban sprawl is taking hold. I have seen a lot of growth construction with Kaiser, Inova, and Med Star
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jhu72 wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:58 am
Brooklyn wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:57 am Yale study shows how Medicare will save money and 68,000 lives every year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxWdsEq ... =emb_title




The blood tax will be greatly reduced while Republican death panels will be given a kick in the pants. Says one commentator:


Iraq war paid for with our taxes: Silence
•Afghan war paid for with our taxes: Silence
•Bailing out Wall Street and our corrupt banking system with our tax money: Silence
•Giving a $1.5 trillion tax break to the top 1%: Silence
•Bombing Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia all without the approval of congress: Silence
•Billion dollar subsidies given to Big Oil, Big Tech, and health insurance companies paid for with our taxes: Silence
•$760 Billion dollar per year military budget: Silence
•Most incarcerations per capital on a global scale: Silence
•$7-10 Trillion spent on war since 2001: Silence




•Investing in Healthcare and education: That’s when the media and our politicians say that we can’t afford it and ask where will the money come from...
Just the other day, in a major medical publication, some researchers from Yale university, pointed out in a major article, that M4A will save us 450 billion dollars a year and save 68,000 LIVES




YALE UNIVERSITY MAJOR ARTICLE, MEDICARE 4 ALL will save us 450 BILLION dollars a year and save 68,000 LIVES!





Every word of it, 100% truth.


Yup. Yale study is only one of many equally good studies coming to the same conclusion. Every other western democracy came to that conclusion long ago. We lag them in outcomes. This is demonstrated over and over again. They do this while spending less per capita as a society.
When this is getting play in center-right "Reader's Digest Covers Politics" places like "The Week", you know the terms of the debate are being shifted as more people are released from the fog of insurance company propaganda and scare tactics.

https://theweek.com/articles/896455/how ... ricans-lot

For those who prefer a little more levity: here's John Oliver laying it out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z2XRg3 ... =emb_title
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKCN1P22GG

US Health Care Industry saving lives one ad-buy at a time.
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Catbird wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:18 pm https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKCN1P22GG

US Health Care Industry saving lives one ad-buy at a time.


With the exception of Bloomberg ads, the only ads currently on tv from 5-8PM here in eastern NC are for pharmaceuticals. Recently I started doing two google searches after every commercial - "[drug name] price" and "[drug name] Canada price". It's both enlightening and disgusting.
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youthathletics wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:27 am
jhu72 wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:17 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:06 am What good is keeping your current health plan if there’s no place to go because it’s no longer profitable. It’s particularly acute in the states like Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee and other rural states that have refused Medicaid expansion.

Rural Hospitals Closing at an Alarming Rate
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ ... -closing#1
Yup, and it is getting worse.
Hospitals may be closing but there are a bunch of smaller satellite medical facilities going up around the country primarily in rural america. This is where construction is less expensive and urban sprawl is taking hold. I have seen a lot of growth construction with Kaiser, Inova, and Med Star
That is certainly true in the mid-Atlantic. They aren't the same as hospitals though. Can handle some emergencies, but no where near the complete spectrum. None of this is a problem around Baltimore - Washington. You get out to some place like south central / western Virginia and not all emergency services are available without traveling a 100+ miles. The real problem is the rural middle of the country and the west.
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jhu72 wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:40 pm
youthathletics wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:27 am
jhu72 wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:17 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:06 am What good is keeping your current health plan if there’s no place to go because it’s no longer profitable. It’s particularly acute in the states like Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee and other rural states that have refused Medicaid expansion.

Rural Hospitals Closing at an Alarming Rate
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ ... -closing#1
Yup, and it is getting worse.
Hospitals may be closing but there are a bunch of smaller satellite medical facilities going up around the country primarily in rural america. This is where construction is less expensive and urban sprawl is taking hold. I have seen a lot of growth construction with Kaiser, Inova, and Med Star
That is certainly true in the mid-Atlantic. They aren't the same as hospitals though. Can handle some emergencies, but no where near the complete spectrum. None of this is a problem around Baltimore - Washington. You get out to some place like south central / western Virginia and not all emergency services are available without traveling a 100+ miles. The real problem is the rural middle of the country and the west.
https://www.jucm.com/rural-and-tertiary ... -frontier/

A small opportunity but not sure how viable in the long run.....It won't be cheap.
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Everyone ready for their post-virus Health Insurance premiums to explode, right?
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a fan wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:42 pm Everyone ready for their post-virus Health Insurance premiums to explode, right?


You know we're turning socialist no matter what goes down, don't you? No one will be able to afford private health insurance except the billionaire class. The dollar alone will become nearly worthless.

I see an incredibly corrupt socialist dystopia, where many of us live behind gated walls armed to the teeth with mercenary militia, while the common man cannibalizes one another on the other side. Quite similar to Venezuela, or Baltimore actually. Wealth, health, and happiness distortions beyond human recognition, except again Baltimore.

I pity the next Prez. We need Der Furher Hillary Rodham Clinton, regardless how much she takes into her bogus foundation tax-free; only her authoritarian bent can make things good.

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Just weird PB, just weird.
Maybe you really are out sniffing that paint with your 'true conservative' buddies?
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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:08 pm You know we're turning socialist no matter what goes down, don't you? No one will be able to afford private health insurance except the billionaire class. The dollar alone will become nearly worthless.
Dollar is going to be the only thing left standing after the dust has cleared. Or didn't you notice this virus is hitting other countries?

You still don't know what the word socialist means. Like Baltimore? Try Miami.

The country's largest hospital is in Miami. Jackson Memorial Hospital. Guess who owns that? You guessed it: it's owned and operated by the government. Uh oh....that means you already have socialized medicine in your home State.

Whoops.

Only thing worse than a socialist, is a socialist that's too stupid to know they're socialists.

But that's not you. Because the one thing that this forum has given you, is the actual, for-reals-y definition of socialism.

And no one can take that away from you! ;)
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a fan wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:46 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:08 pm You know we're turning socialist no matter what goes down, don't you? No one will be able to afford private health insurance except the billionaire class. The dollar alone will become nearly worthless.
Dollar is going to be the only thing left standing after the dust has cleared. Or didn't you notice this virus is hitting other countries?

You still don't know what the word socialist means. Like Baltimore? Try Miami.

The country's largest hospital is in Miami. Jackson Memorial Hospital. Guess who owns that? You guessed it: it's owned and operated by the government. Uh oh....that means you already have socialized medicine in your home State.

Whoops.

Only thing worse than a socialist, is a socialist that's too stupid to know they're socialists.

But that's not you. Because the one thing that this forum has given you, is the actual, for-reals-y definition of socialism.

And no one can take that away from you! ;)


I don’t even know what socialism is anymore. :shock:
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SCLaxAttack wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:12 pm
Catbird wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:18 pm https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKCN1P22GG

US Health Care Industry saving lives one ad-buy at a time.


With the exception of Bloomberg ads, the only ads currently on tv from 5-8PM here in eastern NC are for pharmaceuticals. Recently I started doing two google searches after every commercial - "[drug name] price" and "[drug name] Canada price". It's both enlightening and disgusting.
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This article about the concern of CV-19 and the black community in PG County is interesting and all over the place at the same time.

In the article.... they mention the median income is high, the death/infection rate is high because they are on the front line, underlying health problems, many coronavirus patients in Prince George’s have, the housing crisis in 2008, disparity in health care services, PG County invests less than surrounding areas per capita in heat services, closing with tax incentives for health care in needed areas.

This will make you bang your head against the wall....“But now is the time to take the color blinds off,” he said. What does that even mean when, PG County has been run by black politicians since 1994.

Reading between the lines, it sure seems they are looking to blame someone else.
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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:37 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:46 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:08 pm You know we're turning socialist no matter what goes down, don't you? No one will be able to afford private health insurance except the billionaire class. The dollar alone will become nearly worthless.
Dollar is going to be the only thing left standing after the dust has cleared. Or didn't you notice this virus is hitting other countries?

You still don't know what the word socialist means. Like Baltimore? Try Miami.

The country's largest hospital is in Miami. Jackson Memorial Hospital. Guess who owns that? You guessed it: it's owned and operated by the government. Uh oh....that means you already have socialized medicine in your home State.

Whoops.

Only thing worse than a socialist, is a socialist that's too stupid to know they're socialists.

But that's not you. Because the one thing that this forum has given you, is the actual, for-reals-y definition of socialism.

And no one can take that away from you! ;)


I don’t even know what socialism is anymore. :shock:




It's a good bet people like Ben Franklin (free health care), Jefferson (free health care/free college education), Washington & Hamilton (infrastructure building), and Paine (UBI & Social Security) did not know they would be called "socialists" by far right delusionals for their ideas.
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tRUMP's health care plan in action:


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Oh, by the way - the ever intolerant reich wing made sure the artist who portrayed that truth got fired.
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