Throughout the years, it has happened many times. See if you can name any of them.
Can either UVA or Penn State of 2024 add their name to this conversation come Memorial Day?
Programs Winning National Titles One Year After Heartbreaking, One-Goal NCAA Tournament Losses
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Hopkins (73,84)
Cuse (93,02)
Princeton (01)
All losses in the finals the previous year by a goal
Cuse (93,02)
Princeton (01)
All losses in the finals the previous year by a goal
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2002 Syracuse won the NC after losing in OT in 2001 to Princeton. 2006 UVA won the NC after losing in OT in 2005 to JHU. 2007 JHU won the NC after a one goal loss to Syracuse in the 2006 quarters (not necessarily a heart-breaking loss, since I think they scored at the last second to bring it within 1). 2011 UVA won the NC after a 1 goal defeat to Duke in the 2010 semis. 2017 Maryland. 2018 Yale. 2022 Maryland.
I couldn't tell you what happened to Denver in 2014.
I couldn't tell you what happened to Denver in 2014.
Re: Programs Winning National Titles One Year After Heartbreaking, One-Goal NCAA Tournament Losses
MULTIPLE goalsgymman1031 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:16 pmGood choices. However, Cuse beat Princeton by multiple goals for the title in 2000.
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Ahh that's right..I guess they are out!
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I think history shows losing by 1 goal the year prior, does absolutely nothing for you the next year.
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How do folks come up with these inane who cares posts...?
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Very incorrect. So many times, teams have won titles who lost heartbreaking one-goal games, whether in regulation or OT, the year before. Those losses often sting the most and make teams that much more hungry and angry going into the next season. There are actually several examples that haven't even been mentioned on here yet.
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You cared enough to come on this post, my friendBlueJaySince1947 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:10 pm How do folks come up with these inane who cares posts...?
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Completely correct, you are just showing survivor bias at its best. I will bet you that more teams lost by one int eh tournament and never made it back to the title game, than lost by 1 and won a title. Your own example shows that. Hopkins lost by one in 72, lost again in 73 by 1. Won in 74.Cornell beat Maryland in OT in 76, they win again in 77 beating Hopkins. Hop beats UVA in double OT in 1980. UNC beats Hopkins by 1 in 81 and they beat them again by 2 in 82. *83 Cuse beats Hopkins by 1. Finally. Hopkins wins in 84. 86 UNC beats UVa in OT. Neither are their in 87 as Hopkins beats Cornell by 1.. Cornell loses the next year to Cuse by 5. Hopkins loses by 1 in 89, they dont make it back until 2003. I could go on, but your stat has 0 validitygymman1031 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:13 pmVery incorrect. So many times, teams have won titles who lost heartbreaking one-goal games, whether in regulation or OT, the year before. Those losses often sting the most and make teams that much more hungry and angry going into the next season. There are actually several examples that haven't even been mentioned on here yet.
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In no way am I say that what I said at the top always happens. Or even regularly. I am just saying that it has happened several times.coda wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:25 pmCompletely correct, you are just showing survivor bias at its best. I will bet you that more teams lost by one and never made it back, than lost by 1 and won a title. Your own example shows that. Hopkins lost by one in 72, lost again in 73 by 1. Won in 74.Cornell beat Maryland in OT in 76, they win again in 77 beating Hopkins. Hop beats UVA in double OT in 1980. UNC beats Hopkins by 1 in 81 and they beat them again by 2 in 82. *83 Cuse beats Hopkins by 1. Finally. Hopkins wins in 84. 86 UNC beats UVa in OT. Neither are their in 87 as Hopkins beats Cornell by 1.. Cornell loses the next year to Cuse by 5. Hopkins loses by 1 in 89, they dont make it back until 2003. I could go on, but your stat has 0 validitygymman1031 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:13 pmVery incorrect. So many times, teams have won titles who lost heartbreaking one-goal games, whether in regulation or OT, the year before. Those losses often sting the most and make teams that much more hungry and angry going into the next season. There are actually several examples that haven't even been mentioned on here yet.
PS-My initial post was about heartbreaking, one-goal losses in the NCAA TOURNAMENT. Not just the title game. That said, 1987 Hopkins is a perfect example of my focus. Talk about an all-time-classic heartbreaker they had against UNC in OT in the 1986 Semifinals.
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The numbers would be worse, if I had all the teams that lost tight games late in the tournament. Just last year you had Delaware, PSU, Army, Cornell, Virginia, Princeton, and Maryland lose 1 goal games in the tournament.gymman1031 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:29 pmIn no way am I say that what I said at the top always happens. Or even regularly. I am just saying that it has happened several times.coda wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:25 pmCompletely correct, you are just showing survivor bias at its best. I will bet you that more teams lost by one and never made it back, than lost by 1 and won a title. Your own example shows that. Hopkins lost by one in 72, lost again in 73 by 1. Won in 74.Cornell beat Maryland in OT in 76, they win again in 77 beating Hopkins. Hop beats UVA in double OT in 1980. UNC beats Hopkins by 1 in 81 and they beat them again by 2 in 82. *83 Cuse beats Hopkins by 1. Finally. Hopkins wins in 84. 86 UNC beats UVa in OT. Neither are their in 87 as Hopkins beats Cornell by 1.. Cornell loses the next year to Cuse by 5. Hopkins loses by 1 in 89, they dont make it back until 2003. I could go on, but your stat has 0 validitygymman1031 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:13 pmVery incorrect. So many times, teams have won titles who lost heartbreaking one-goal games, whether in regulation or OT, the year before. Those losses often sting the most and make teams that much more hungry and angry going into the next season. There are actually several examples that haven't even been mentioned on here yet.
PS-My initial post was about heartbreaking, one-goal losses in the NCAA TOURNAMENT. Not just the title game. That said, 1987 Hopkins is a perfect example of my focus. Talk about an all-time-classic heartbreaker they had against UNC in OT in the 1986 Semifinals.
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That is fine. However, I just think it is a great story when a team rebounds from such a loss and wins it all the next season. The question is, will one of those teams win it all this year?coda wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:41 pmThe numbers would be worse, if I had all the teams that lost tight games late in the tournament. Just last year you had Delaware, PSU, Army, Cornell, Virginia, Princeton, and Maryland lose 1 goal games in the tournament.gymman1031 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:29 pmIn no way am I say that what I said at the top always happens. Or even regularly. I am just saying that it has happened several times.coda wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:25 pmCompletely correct, you are just showing survivor bias at its best. I will bet you that more teams lost by one and never made it back, than lost by 1 and won a title. Your own example shows that. Hopkins lost by one in 72, lost again in 73 by 1. Won in 74.Cornell beat Maryland in OT in 76, they win again in 77 beating Hopkins. Hop beats UVA in double OT in 1980. UNC beats Hopkins by 1 in 81 and they beat them again by 2 in 82. *83 Cuse beats Hopkins by 1. Finally. Hopkins wins in 84. 86 UNC beats UVa in OT. Neither are their in 87 as Hopkins beats Cornell by 1.. Cornell loses the next year to Cuse by 5. Hopkins loses by 1 in 89, they dont make it back until 2003. I could go on, but your stat has 0 validitygymman1031 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:13 pmVery incorrect. So many times, teams have won titles who lost heartbreaking one-goal games, whether in regulation or OT, the year before. Those losses often sting the most and make teams that much more hungry and angry going into the next season. There are actually several examples that haven't even been mentioned on here yet.
PS-My initial post was about heartbreaking, one-goal losses in the NCAA TOURNAMENT. Not just the title game. That said, 1987 Hopkins is a perfect example of my focus. Talk about an all-time-classic heartbreaker they had against UNC in OT in the 1986 Semifinals.
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I forgot 2003 Virginia. Lost in double ot in the 2002 semis to Syracuse. The Tom Hardy game.
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Hopkins lost by one in 72
The Cavaliers survived a late rush by Jack Thomas, who with 12 seconds left in the game appeared to have a clear shot at the net. Bob Scott however had, unknown to the ball players called a timeout, negating what would have been a last-second game-tying attempt
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Yale's national championship came the year after being eliminated 11-10 by Syracuse.
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Maryland losing to UNC in overtime in the 2016 title game, and then winning it in 2017.
Was live for the first. Got my heart stomped on.
Was live for the first. Got my heart stomped on.
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Yep, had that one.PulpExposure wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:42 am Maryland losing to UNC in overtime in the 2016 title game, and then winning it in 2017.
Was live for the first. Got my heart stomped on.