NEW RULE PROPOSALS

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Dasher
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Hey let's grow the game and make it so you need less players? Awful idea. The true two way middie is being diminished. They say this will encourage subs. I am at a loss as to how that will happen.
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jff97 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:27 pm Here are the proposed rule changes
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ties/61692
IMO, 6v6 will do the exact opposite and make the game more physical. Watch any men’s game and what do you see? Middies constantly jamming the inside hip with a crosscheck. It’s the only way defenders can have a half decent chance and it’ll be in the women’s game next. Offense rules….might as well give defenders those foam noodles you teach kids to swim with.

The idea of calling crosschecks as a foul is laughable…..it’s on the books now and doesn’t get called.
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Bart wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:37 pm
jff97 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:27 pm Here are the proposed rule changes
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ties/61692
IMO, 6v6 will do the exact opposite and make the game more physical. Watch any men’s game and what do you see? Middies constantly jamming the inside hip with a crosscheck. It’s the only way defenders can have a half decent chance and it’ll be in the women’s game next. Offense rules….might as well give defenders those foam noodles you teach kids to swim with.

The idea of calling crosschecks as a foul is laughable…..it’s on the books now and doesn’t get called.
I think th 6v6 benefits the faster teams....exactly what Levy was aiming for.
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Izzy Scane will score 120 goals in a 6v6 format. More 2 man, late slides and it negates zone defense effectiveness.
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Atrocious and as you note it makes things less safe, where a beaten defender going to do? Use her stick. What’s a late sliding defender going to do? Use her stick. Let’s limit the number of girls on the field while we are at it and make defenses have to defend 1v1 exclusively. Hopefully the decision makers can see thought through this proposal although I doubt it. Oh btw, how long are games going to ge when you send players off after all these fouls and with a ton more goals. Going to be a 4 hour game.
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Lax101 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:16 pm Izzy Scane will score 120 goals in a 6v6 format. More 2 man, late slides and it negates zone defense effectiveness.
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Watch how long it takes to issue a green card now. Always mass confusion. Now add it for twenty more things. Geez, more refs confused, writing names on pads . This is a disaster as a fan to endure this crap
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Rule changes that only benefit the top collegiate teams in the country should not be instituted. Short sighted.
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The womens's game is beautiful now, why make changes. So, less players on the field and more on the sidelines? Defense can't stop hard driving attackers now so let's create more space by pulling a defender? The only thing that would be worse is adding helmets and pads. Pathetic!
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livelovelax wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 5:34 am The womens's game is beautiful now, why make changes. So, less players on the field and more on the sidelines? Defense can't stop hard driving attackers now so let's create more space by pulling a defender? The only thing that would be worse is adding helmets and pads. Pathetic!
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Glad someone is speaking up. Hopefully others push back. There’s literally no reason to do this
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Just curious how they are playing 11 v 11? It must be a typo.... 6 v 6 below the restraining line would meant 3/3/3/1 so that would be 10 v 10?
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Bart wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:08 am Just curious how they are playing 11 v 11? It must be a typo.... 6 v 6 below the restraining line would meant 3/3/3/1 so that would be 10 v 10?
Thank you for asking, this has been driving me a little nuts.
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DMac wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:27 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:08 am Just curious how they are playing 11 v 11? It must be a typo.... 6 v 6 below the restraining line would meant 3/3/3/1 so that would be 10 v 10?
Thank you for asking, this has been driving me a little nuts.
To make it work for 11v11, I am pretty sure you would still have 4 A or 4D back at all times. So, it would in essence be eliminating a M.
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@inthe8m wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:31 am
DMac wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:27 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:08 am Just curious how they are playing 11 v 11? It must be a typo.... 6 v 6 below the restraining line would meant 3/3/3/1 so that would be 10 v 10?
Thank you for asking, this has been driving me a little nuts.
To make it work for 11v11, I am pretty sure your would still have 4 A or 4D back at all times. So, it would in essence be eliminating a M.
AHHHH. thanks. Did not think of that. If that is the case I dislike this rule even more.
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Bart wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:40 am
@inthe8m wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:31 am
DMac wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:27 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:08 am Just curious how they are playing 11 v 11? It must be a typo.... 6 v 6 below the restraining line would meant 3/3/3/1 so that would be 10 v 10?
Thank you for asking, this has been driving me a little nuts.
To make it work for 11v11, I am pretty sure your would still have 4 A or 4D back at all times. So, it would in essence be eliminating a M.
AHHHH. thanks. Did not think of that. If that is the case I dislike this rule even more.
So 2 mids on the draw?? 11 v 11 makes zero sense. 10 v 10 I at least understand functionally how it would work

But I hate this idea. Defenders will have no chance and will hack. It’ll turn into a shoot out game.

Also anyone with any familiarity with how youth and HS is played would realize this cannot be implemented at that level. They simply can’t cover the field with fewer players. It seems like an idea only benefitting the elite top teams.

Much better idea would be to actually call cross checking, make clearer rules for charges (so they can be called as well), and call dangerous shots.
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lax410 wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:36 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:40 am
@inthe8m wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:31 am
DMac wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:27 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:08 am Just curious how they are playing 11 v 11? It must be a typo.... 6 v 6 below the restraining line would meant 3/3/3/1 so that would be 10 v 10?
Thank you for asking, this has been driving me a little nuts.
To make it work for 11v11, I am pretty sure your would still have 4 A or 4D back at all times. So, it would in essence be eliminating a M.
AHHHH. thanks. Did not think of that. If that is the case I dislike this rule even more.
So 2 mids on the draw?? 11 v 11 makes zero sense. 10 v 10 I at least understand functionally how it would work

But I hate this idea. Defenders will have no chance and will hack. It’ll turn into a shoot out game.

Also anyone with any familiarity with how youth and HS is played would realize this cannot be implemented at that level. They simply can’t cover the field with fewer players. It seems like an idea only benefitting the elite top teams.

Much better idea would be to actually call cross checking, make clearer rules for charges (so they can be called as well), and call dangerous shots.
No. 3 on the draw. But 4 will have to stay back when the ball goes to offensive end. It will lead to more subbing at the midfield changing out offense for defense and will continue the down the path of 2 way middies being a thing of the past.
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Bart wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:08 am Just curious how they are playing 11 v 11? It must be a typo.... 6 v 6 below the restraining line would meant 3/3/3/1 so that would be 10 v 10?
Simply keep 4 above the restraining line. So you have 6/4/1.
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hmmm wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:40 am
lax410 wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:36 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:40 am
@inthe8m wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:31 am
DMac wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:27 am
Bart wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:08 am Just curious how they are playing 11 v 11? It must be a typo.... 6 v 6 below the restraining line would meant 3/3/3/1 so that would be 10 v 10?
Thank you for asking, this has been driving me a little nuts.
To make it work for 11v11, I am pretty sure your would still have 4 A or 4D back at all times. So, it would in essence be eliminating a M.
AHHHH. thanks. Did not think of that. If that is the case I dislike this rule even more.
So 2 mids on the draw?? 11 v 11 makes zero sense. 10 v 10 I at least understand functionally how it would work

But I hate this idea. Defenders will have no chance and will hack. It’ll turn into a shoot out game.

Also anyone with any familiarity with how youth and HS is played would realize this cannot be implemented at that level. They simply can’t cover the field with fewer players. It seems like an idea only benefitting the elite top teams.

Much better idea would be to actually call cross checking, make clearer rules for charges (so they can be called as well), and call dangerous shots.
No. 3 on the draw. But 4 will have to stay back when the ball goes to offensive end. It will lead to more subbing at the midfield changing out offense for defense and will continue the down the path of 2 way middies being a thing of the past.
So how are they lining up on a draw. 3 on the circle, 4 defense and 3 attack?
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