2024 Season Predictions

[hmmm]

I may be wrong but as a D3 player is the Northwestern goalie now using her second Covid year? Yet she is now playing D1 where other D1 players from her class only received one year and are done .. and current 2020 seniors (like Wurzburger) received no extra year. If true how is that fair? 2020 players like Wurz get 4 years and NU goalie gets 6. Perhaps I'm wrong - am I?

You are not wrong.

[Madlax59]

I may be wrong but as a D3 player is the Northwestern goalie now using her second Covid year? Yet she is now playing D1 where other D1 players from her class only received one year and are done .. and current 2020 seniors (like Wurzburger) received no extra year. If true how is that fair? 2020 players like Wurz get 4 years and NU goalie gets 6. Perhaps I'm wrong - am I?

You are not wrong.

Is the NU goalie a 2020 like CW?

[jff97]

I may be wrong but as a D3 player is the Northwestern goalie now using her second Covid year? Yet she is now playing D1 where other D1 players from her class only received one year and are done .. and current 2020 seniors (like Wurzburger) received no extra year. If true how is that fair? 2020 players like Wurz get 4 years and NU goalie gets 6. Perhaps I'm wrong - am I?

You are not wrong.

Is the NU goalie a 2020 like CW?

She's a 2018 like Scane. They gave D3 players two bonus years because not everyone had a normal 2021. Laliberty, though, played 11 games for Tufts that spring.

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

I may be wrong but as a D3 player is the Northwestern goalie now using her second Covid year? Yet she is now playing D1 where other D1 players from her class only received one year and are done .. and current 2020 seniors (like Wurzburger) received no extra year. If true how is that fair? 2020 players like Wurz get 4 years and NU goalie gets 6. Perhaps I'm wrong - am I?

You are not wrong.

Is the NU goalie a 2020 like CW?

She's a 2018 like Scane. They gave D3 players two bonus years because not everyone had a normal 2021. Laliberty, though, played 11 games for Tufts that spring.

*2019

[hmmm]

I may be wrong but as a D3 player is the Northwestern goalie now using her second Covid year? Yet she is now playing D1 where other D1 players from her class only received one year and are done .. and current 2020 seniors (like Wurzburger) received no extra year. If true how is that fair? 2020 players like Wurz get 4 years and NU goalie gets 6. Perhaps I'm wrong - am I?

You are not wrong.

Is the NU goalie a 2020 like CW?

She's a 2018 like Scane. They gave D3 players two bonus years because not everyone had a normal 2021. Laliberty, though, played 11 games for Tufts that spring.

*2019

Incorrect. They were both in the HS class of 2018.

Izzy played in 2019, 2020(Covid), 2021 and 2023. Missed 2022. Playing in 2024.

Molly played 2019-2022 at Tufts. Played 2023 at NU and playing again in 2024.

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

I may be wrong but as a D3 player is the Northwestern goalie now using her second Covid year? Yet she is now playing D1 where other D1 players from her class only received one year and are done .. and current 2020 seniors (like Wurzburger) received no extra year. If true how is that fair? 2020 players like Wurz get 4 years and NU goalie gets 6. Perhaps I'm wrong - am I?

You are not wrong.

Is the NU goalie a 2020 like CW?

She's a 2018 like Scane. They gave D3 players two bonus years because not everyone had a normal 2021. Laliberty, though, played 11 games for Tufts that spring.

*2019

Incorrect. They were both in the HS class of 2018.

Izzy played in 2019, 2020(Covid), 2021 and 2023. Missed 2022. Playing in 2024.

Molly played 2019-2022 at Tufts. Played 2023 at NU and playing again in 2024.

I was noting their 1st year playing college. Their first collegiate year was 2019.

[user1020]

I may be wrong but as a D3 player is the Northwestern goalie now using her second Covid year? Yet she is now playing D1 where other D1 players from her class only received one year and are done .. and current 2020 seniors (like Wurzburger) received no extra year. If true how is that fair? 2020 players like Wurz get 4 years and NU goalie gets 6. Perhaps I'm wrong - am I?

This is a very good point. I feel that only one of the COVID years granted at the D3 level should have to be used at the D3 level.

[user1020]

SCANE. Best player last year as 5th year. Coming back for a 6th year, another year older than majority of competition, sets records for oldest winner of award.

I don't find years meaningful. How many actual games did she play?

2019 - Played 20 games
2020 - Played 7 games
2021 - Played 16 games
2022 - Injured during Fall ball, did not play
2023 - Played 20 games

That's 63 games total in her career so far. That's 3 full seasons when you divide by 3. It doesn't matter to me what year she'll be in 2024.
By rights, she gets a year for her injured year out. And by rights she gets a season for the lost Covid season. (The NCAA was going to tick off one side or the other by the decision they chose. I think they made the right one to grant a replacement year, if you will.) It's right and fair that Scane is playing in 2024.

It’s definitely meaningful. That’s 2 extra seasons to practice your stick skills and study the game. Even when you’re not on the field you can do other exercises to improve.

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

SCANE. Best player last year as 5th year. Coming back for a 6th year, another year older than majority of competition, sets records for oldest winner of award.

I don't find years meaningful. How many actual games did she play?

2019 - Played 20 games
2020 - Played 7 games
2021 - Played 16 games
2022 - Injured during Fall ball, did not play
2023 - Played 20 games

That's 63 games total in her career so far. That's 3 full seasons when you divide by 3. It doesn't matter to me what year she'll be in 2024.
By rights, she gets a year for her injured year out. And by rights she gets a season for the lost Covid season. (The NCAA was going to tick off one side or the other by the decision they chose. I think they made the right one to grant a replacement year, if you will.) It's right and fair that Scane is playing in 2024.

It’s definitely meaningful. That’s 2 extra seasons to practice your stick skills and study the game. Even when you’re not on the field you can do other exercises to improve.

Not from my vantage. As I said earlier in the thread:

I don't mind the younger players against the older. That's found in all sports to one degree or another. I don't have, nor have I ever had, any of my kids playing sports in leagues or such, so I'm coming from a completely different place. As a fan of the sport though, I'm very glad she's coming back.

Scane, that is. And I'll add, I'm glad players like Liza Elder and Morgan Alexander got to get back out on the field after multiple surgeries and years lost to play the game they gave so much to play one more time.

[Kleizaster]

Some players are more than okay with riding the bench at a good D1 school for an educational opportunity and are just happy to be apart of the team. Lacrosse as a priority changes for some players.

[forthelaxofit]

For what it is worth - It is too early for top winner list, but not for the top disappointments of the 2024 lacrosse year.

1) ND & UNC. Both came into year with high hopes and expectations. ND coming back with an experienced team and went into portal to add to it and came up short (yes I know the haters will chant “I told you so”). Now the question for them is what is in the cupboard for next year. As far as UNC, being hit hard by injuries derailed expectations – I don’t think any team could have overcome the number of injuries to advance into elite 8, but still fell short of the hype. UNC different circumstance for next year from ND though – as everyone keeps saying their cupboard is overflowing for next year

2) Big East and AAC. I know a lot of people were looking at another final 4 appearance before the season for Denver. But they don’t specifically make the my list above as I predicted they would crash and burn this year. Another “senior” heavy team and went heavy into transfer portal to try to improve on their final 4 last year only to be running clocked yesterday. They were only team to make NCAA in their weak conference. After riding upperclassmen to elimination, what do they have left for next year? AAC is losing Florida and wasn’t a deep conference either. JMU best player Peterson is leaving, was running clocked in both the Conference finals and NCAA giving up 38 goals in those two games, and where non senior returners scored only 7 goals in those two loses. Florida is huge loss to AAC. Both these conferences look like the Patriot league – with a league champion NCAA bid only.

3) NCAA selection committee. No not for the bubble teams. Lot of conversation on that on these boards. Really – who cares, they were all one and done teams no matter who they picked. And none of bubble teams selected were embarrassed in round 1. But the big error was giving Marland the #4 slot. This gave them inside track to host Elite 8 game. Big advantage playing at home, on that field, and now Florida has to make the trip there. (I personally think Florida should have gotten a top 8 seed)

4) NCAA Lacrosse Rules Committee / Refs / Jenny Levy. Jammed the midfield green card on lacrosse dramatically altering game. (I personally would have been okay with changing the rule from 3 fouls to the second foul before the restraining line draws a green to keep game going but allow some midfield D). The Refs don’t escape either. The Flop rule was put in place – did anyone see 1 of these calls? The Refs ignored that Flop rule, so I guess they could have ignored the Green Card too? Let us be thankful though that NCAA (not the Lacrosse Rules Committee) at least put a veto on the other Levy pushed rule change of reducing the number of players from 12 to 11. Remember that period last summer? At least that wasn’t jammed onto women’s college lacrosse

5) The Stony Brook haters. After they beat Syracuse mid-season, you would think the world came to an end – and the haters came out in force. When I said Masera should be in Tewaaraton finalist consideration, the wraith reached and maintained comical levels. My top favorite “she is not even best on her own team”. Don't let facts interfere with a good argument. My second favorite is JS outsmarts everyone by putting an M instead of an A next to her name. The Award Tewaaraton committee does not care or judge based on the “M”, they pick who they judge to be the TOP 5 PLAYERS – not by “position”. Google the Women’s Committee. Made up of 20 coaches including Adams, O’Leary, Kelly, Lamonica, Kimel, Munday, Halfpenny to name just a few. The Stony Brook hate and bias is entertaining read, but to claim the Committee picking the top 5 is fooled or swayed by the “M” when picking Tewaaraton finalist, takes it to an entire new level.

[RJP]

Lots of bad predictions going back to November!

From preseason to postseason before final playoff rounds most overrated/overhyped: UNC, Denver, JMU, ND, Army, USC,Clemson,Duke

Preseason unranked team made it to elite 8: Yale

Teams that seemed ranked preseason strictly on previous year maybe not taking enough consideration of other factors: Army, UMass, Albany, UConn

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

Lots of bad predictions going back to November!

From preseason to postseason before final playoff rounds most overrated/overhyped: UNC, Denver, JMU, ND, Army, USC,Clemson,Duke

Preseason unranked team made it to elite 8: Yale

Teams that seemed ranked preseason strictly on previous year maybe not taking enough consideration of other factors: Army, UMass, Albany, UConn

You said it. Look at some of these doozies.

BC won’t make it back to the national championship game. I think the wear and tear of six straight trips will finally catch up with them—in spite of their stellar infusion of talent via the portal. They’ll have more than enough drive to win the ACC conference championship again though.

Syracuse will take a step back. They won't make it to the Final Four. Too much talent graduated. Who are the on field generals/leaders for the Orange now? Who will take Meaghan Tyrrell's mantle on her shoulders, to not only be the go-to player but the leader as well?

Denver will once again make it back to The Weekend, and will once again fall to the Wildcats, who will win their 9th national championship.

Liberty will win the ASUN conference championship.

Izzy Scane wins her 2nd Tewwy.

James Madison wins both AAC regular season and conference championships.

Both Virginia Tech and Clemson will take a step up in the ACC.

Summer Agostino will have a great year for the Clemson Tigers.

And lastly, Johns Hopkins will finish 3rd in the Big 10 behind Northwestern and Maryland, but will finally beat the Terps for the first time in program history.