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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 7:43 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 6:13 pm
middleAgedBear wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 10:16 pm
Hooz123 wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 9:56 pm
middleAgedBear wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 9:34 pm
Hooz123 wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 9:28 pm Same as it ever was. Cupcake League. yawn
Haha we’ve found the ball-gargler!
Fun fact - did you know your dusty Ivy league rep got manhandled by UMD twice and Duke, the only real teams they played all year? I guess you can brag about how you beat a dusty old historically crappy UNC team. BYE BYE.
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PizzaSnake wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 9:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 8:17 pm
laxfan1313 wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 8:15 am
Hooz123 wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 9:56 pm
middleAgedBear wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 9:34 pm
Hooz123 wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 9:28 pm Same as it ever was. Cupcake League. yawn
Haha we’ve found the ball-gargler!
Fun fact - did you know your dusty Ivy league rep got manhandled by UMD twice and Duke, the only real teams they played all year? I guess you can brag about how you beat a dusty old historically crappy UNC team. BYE BYE.
To all the trolls including the troll Hooz123 who are gloating against the Ivy League with Princeton's exit yesterday, I note that 4 Ivy League teams were in the top 14 RPI. If the tourney were chosen based upon the best teams with no AQs given, those Ivy teams would have been in. Then there's the long list of Ivy players populating tourney teams because Ivy rules precluded them from playing another year at an Ivy school. So the Ivy League is alive & well and once the transfer portal no longer has a lot of Ivy players on it, the other teams will no longer gain a benefit from the Ivy League's strict rules. So crawl back under your bridge.
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What's interesting to me about the 2022/24 Ivy debate is that there was a ton of righteous focus on the RPI in 2022 and not this year. The RPI was as flawed then as today. In any case, did the Ivies deserve all those teams in 2022? Absolutely not and the committee's circular reasoning showed as much. Did the Ivies "deserve" two teams in 2024? By my eye, absolutely, but Michigan stole a bid.

Going forward, the Ivies are at a permanent disadvantage with a one-way portal. Sure, they can let guys stretch out their undergrad careers past four years (e.g., Brandau started playing before Cormier), but grad restriction reduces the recruiting pool.
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Gianforcaro to UNC per UNC thread.
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So, the Ivies are the developmental league for the ACC? 😀
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PizzaSnake wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:26 am So, the Ivies are the developmental league for the ACC? 😀
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Hoxwurth wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:29 am What's interesting to me about the 2022/24 Ivy debate is that there was a ton of righteous focus on the RPI in 2022 and not this year. The RPI was as flawed then as today. In any case, did the Ivies deserve all those teams in 2022? Absolutely not and the committee's circular reasoning showed as much. Did the Ivies "deserve" two teams in 2024? By my eye, absolutely, but Michigan stole a bid.

Going forward, the Ivies are at a permanent disadvantage with a one-way portal. Sure, they can let guys stretch out their undergrad careers past four years (e.g., Brandau started playing before Cormier), but grad restriction reduces the recruiting pool.
How is that? After 2025, every player gets 4 years of eligibility, again, just as it was pre-Covid before 2021. Graduate students are not eligible to play anywhere unless they somehow have not played for 4 years before graduate school, such as losing a season to injury. And players with remaining eligibility can transfer to Ivies as well as to any other school. I don't see any advantage or disadvantage after this last 2025 round of Ivies playing a 5th year.
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Chousnake wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:05 am
Hoxwurth wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:29 am What's interesting to me about the 2022/24 Ivy debate is that there was a ton of righteous focus on the RPI in 2022 and not this year. The RPI was as flawed then as today. In any case, did the Ivies deserve all those teams in 2022? Absolutely not and the committee's circular reasoning showed as much. Did the Ivies "deserve" two teams in 2024? By my eye, absolutely, but Michigan stole a bid.

Going forward, the Ivies are at a permanent disadvantage with a one-way portal. Sure, they can let guys stretch out their undergrad careers past four years (e.g., Brandau started playing before Cormier), but grad restriction reduces the recruiting pool.
How is that? After 2025, every player gets 4 years of eligibility, again, just as it was pre-Covid before 2021. Graduate students are not eligible to play anywhere unless they somehow have not played for 4 years before graduate school, such as losing a season to injury. And players with remaining eligibility can transfer to Ivies as well as to any other school. I don't see any advantage or disadvantage after this last 2025 round of Ivies playing a 5th year.
I've been told Ivy coaches won't take in a transfer after the player has completed their sophomore year. My understanding is it's for academic purposes. You can either believe that or not but if you look at the limited history of the transfer portal there's plenty of history backing that up.
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BrownDad wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:14 am
Chousnake wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:05 am
Hoxwurth wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:29 am What's interesting to me about the 2022/24 Ivy debate is that there was a ton of righteous focus on the RPI in 2022 and not this year. The RPI was as flawed then as today. In any case, did the Ivies deserve all those teams in 2022? Absolutely not and the committee's circular reasoning showed as much. Did the Ivies "deserve" two teams in 2024? By my eye, absolutely, but Michigan stole a bid.

Going forward, the Ivies are at a permanent disadvantage with a one-way portal. Sure, they can let guys stretch out their undergrad careers past four years (e.g., Brandau started playing before Cormier), but grad restriction reduces the recruiting pool.
How is that? After 2025, every player gets 4 years of eligibility, again, just as it was pre-Covid before 2021. Graduate students are not eligible to play anywhere unless they somehow have not played for 4 years before graduate school, such as losing a season to injury. And players with remaining eligibility can transfer to Ivies as well as to any other school. I don't see any advantage or disadvantage after this last 2025 round of Ivies playing a 5th year.
I've been told Ivy coaches won't take in a transfer after the player has completed their sophomore year. My understanding is it's for academic purposes. You can either believe that or not but if you look at the limited history of the transfer portal there's plenty of history backing that up.
My experience with Cornell is that this is just not true. Ben Abladian transferred to Cornell after his sophomore season at Bryant and played the past two seasons. Connor English transferred to Cornell from UVA about ten years ago after his sophomore season. Cornell University as a whole takes a number of transfer students starting with their junior year. Things may be different at HYP, but I'm not sure this is true for the other 5 schools.

I also just do not see anywhere near the level of transfers in general going forward. And I'm not sure players playing musical chairs by going from one D1 school to another is going to work to the advantage of any particular D1 school vs another. Certainly, the admission standards at the Ivies may make it harder to transfer in. But I don't see 2026 being anything like the past 2-3 seasons.
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BrownDad wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:14 am
Chousnake wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:05 am
Hoxwurth wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:29 am What's interesting to me about the 2022/24 Ivy debate is that there was a ton of righteous focus on the RPI in 2022 and not this year. The RPI was as flawed then as today. In any case, did the Ivies deserve all those teams in 2022? Absolutely not and the committee's circular reasoning showed as much. Did the Ivies "deserve" two teams in 2024? By my eye, absolutely, but Michigan stole a bid.

Going forward, the Ivies are at a permanent disadvantage with a one-way portal. Sure, they can let guys stretch out their undergrad careers past four years (e.g., Brandau started playing before Cormier), but grad restriction reduces the recruiting pool.
How is that? After 2025, every player gets 4 years of eligibility, again, just as it was pre-Covid before 2021. Graduate students are not eligible to play anywhere unless they somehow have not played for 4 years before graduate school, such as losing a season to injury. And players with remaining eligibility can transfer to Ivies as well as to any other school. I don't see any advantage or disadvantage after this last 2025 round of Ivies playing a 5th year.
I've been told Ivy coaches won't take in a transfer after the player has completed their sophomore year. My understanding is it's for academic purposes. You can either believe that or not but if you look at the limited history of the transfer portal there's plenty of history backing that up.
It may vary by school. I believe Cornell, Brown and maybe Penn have taken in kids after their sophomore seasons. Brown may limit it to freshmen? Did TD also play two seasons at Albany?
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:38 am
BrownDad wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:14 am
Chousnake wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:05 am
Hoxwurth wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:29 am What's interesting to me about the 2022/24 Ivy debate is that there was a ton of righteous focus on the RPI in 2022 and not this year. The RPI was as flawed then as today. In any case, did the Ivies deserve all those teams in 2022? Absolutely not and the committee's circular reasoning showed as much. Did the Ivies "deserve" two teams in 2024? By my eye, absolutely, but Michigan stole a bid.

Going forward, the Ivies are at a permanent disadvantage with a one-way portal. Sure, they can let guys stretch out their undergrad careers past four years (e.g., Brandau started playing before Cormier), but grad restriction reduces the recruiting pool.
How is that? After 2025, every player gets 4 years of eligibility, again, just as it was pre-Covid before 2021. Graduate students are not eligible to play anywhere unless they somehow have not played for 4 years before graduate school, such as losing a season to injury. And players with remaining eligibility can transfer to Ivies as well as to any other school. I don't see any advantage or disadvantage after this last 2025 round of Ivies playing a 5th year.
I've been told Ivy coaches won't take in a transfer after the player has completed their sophomore year. My understanding is it's for academic purposes. You can either believe that or not but if you look at the limited history of the transfer portal there's plenty of history backing that up.
It may vary by school. I believe Cornell, Brown and maybe Penn have taken in kids after their sophomore seasons. Brown may limit it to freshmen? Did TD also play two seasons at Albany?
Yup. Two seasons with Albany, two with Yale, one with Denver. The Denver season doesn't happen any more after 2024.
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Chousnake wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:40 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:38 am
BrownDad wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:14 am
Chousnake wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:05 am
Hoxwurth wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:29 am What's interesting to me about the 2022/24 Ivy debate is that there was a ton of righteous focus on the RPI in 2022 and not this year. The RPI was as flawed then as today. In any case, did the Ivies deserve all those teams in 2022? Absolutely not and the committee's circular reasoning showed as much. Did the Ivies "deserve" two teams in 2024? By my eye, absolutely, but Michigan stole a bid.

Going forward, the Ivies are at a permanent disadvantage with a one-way portal. Sure, they can let guys stretch out their undergrad careers past four years (e.g., Brandau started playing before Cormier), but grad restriction reduces the recruiting pool.
How is that? After 2025, every player gets 4 years of eligibility, again, just as it was pre-Covid before 2021. Graduate students are not eligible to play anywhere unless they somehow have not played for 4 years before graduate school, such as losing a season to injury. And players with remaining eligibility can transfer to Ivies as well as to any other school. I don't see any advantage or disadvantage after this last 2025 round of Ivies playing a 5th year.
I've been told Ivy coaches won't take in a transfer after the player has completed their sophomore year. My understanding is it's for academic purposes. You can either believe that or not but if you look at the limited history of the transfer portal there's plenty of history backing that up.
It may vary by school. I believe Cornell, Brown and maybe Penn have taken in kids after their sophomore seasons. Brown may limit it to freshmen? Did TD also play two seasons at Albany?
Yup. Two seasons with Albany, two with Yale, one with Denver. The Denver season doesn't happen any more after 2024.
So 2 rising juniors since the Transfer Portal started in 2018. While it might not be a written policy it doesn't seem like something the Ivy coaches are too willing to do.
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BrownDad wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 12:06 pm
Chousnake wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:40 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:38 am
BrownDad wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:14 am
Chousnake wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:05 am
Hoxwurth wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:29 am What's interesting to me about the 2022/24 Ivy debate is that there was a ton of righteous focus on the RPI in 2022 and not this year. The RPI was as flawed then as today. In any case, did the Ivies deserve all those teams in 2022? Absolutely not and the committee's circular reasoning showed as much. Did the Ivies "deserve" two teams in 2024? By my eye, absolutely, but Michigan stole a bid.

Going forward, the Ivies are at a permanent disadvantage with a one-way portal. Sure, they can let guys stretch out their undergrad careers past four years (e.g., Brandau started playing before Cormier), but grad restriction reduces the recruiting pool.
How is that? After 2025, every player gets 4 years of eligibility, again, just as it was pre-Covid before 2021. Graduate students are not eligible to play anywhere unless they somehow have not played for 4 years before graduate school, such as losing a season to injury. And players with remaining eligibility can transfer to Ivies as well as to any other school. I don't see any advantage or disadvantage after this last 2025 round of Ivies playing a 5th year.
I've been told Ivy coaches won't take in a transfer after the player has completed their sophomore year. My understanding is it's for academic purposes. You can either believe that or not but if you look at the limited history of the transfer portal there's plenty of history backing that up.
It may vary by school. I believe Cornell, Brown and maybe Penn have taken in kids after their sophomore seasons. Brown may limit it to freshmen? Did TD also play two seasons at Albany?
Yup. Two seasons with Albany, two with Yale, one with Denver. The Denver season doesn't happen any more after 2024.
So 2 rising juniors since the Transfer Portal started in 2018. While it might not be a written policy it doesn't seem like something the Ivy coaches are too willing to do.
I’m not 100% sure, but I also thought that transfers would have issues with financial aid. Can anyone confirm this?
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From my memory / In recent memory

TD - Albany to Yale (Junior)
Pat Burkinshaw - UVA to UPenn (Soph)
Chase Yager - Amherst to Harvard (Soph)
Ben Abladian - Bryant to Cornell (Soph)
Matteo Corsi - Cuse to Brown (Soph)
Aidan McLane- Fairfield to Brown (Soph)
Connell Kumar - UVA to UPenn (Junior)
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GaitsRightHand wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:03 pm From my memory / In recent memory

TD - Albany to Yale (Junior)
Pat Burkinshaw - UVA to UPenn (Soph)
Chase Yager - Amherst to Harvard (Soph)
Ben Abladian - Bryant to Cornell (Soph)
Matteo Corsi - Cuse to Brown (Soph)
Aidan McLane- Fairfield to Brown (Soph)
Connell Kumar - UVA to UPenn (Junior)
I remember Ryan Matthews leaving Hopkins for Cornell as a Junior. I know his uncle.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:12 pm
GaitsRightHand wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:03 pm From my memory / In recent memory

TD - Albany to Yale (Junior)
Pat Burkinshaw - UVA to UPenn (Soph)
Chase Yager - Amherst to Harvard (Soph)
Ben Abladian - Bryant to Cornell (Soph)
Matteo Corsi - Cuse to Brown (Soph)
Aidan McLane- Fairfield to Brown (Soph)
Connell Kumar - UVA to UPenn (Junior)
I remember Ryan Matthews leaving Hopkins for Cornell as a Junior. I know his uncle.
Looks like he played 3 years at Cornell. But another name to the list
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GaitsRightHand wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:22 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:12 pm
GaitsRightHand wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:03 pm From my memory / In recent memory

TD - Albany to Yale (Junior)
Pat Burkinshaw - UVA to UPenn (Soph)
Chase Yager - Amherst to Harvard (Soph)
Ben Abladian - Bryant to Cornell (Soph)
Matteo Corsi - Cuse to Brown (Soph)
Aidan McLane- Fairfield to Brown (Soph)
Connell Kumar - UVA to UPenn (Junior)
I remember Ryan Matthews leaving Hopkins for Cornell as a Junior. I know his uncle.
Looks like he played 3 years at Cornell. But another name to the list
connor english came into cornell as a junior. the portal for lacrosse has changed the mechanisms for transferring, but largely hasn't changed the rules limitations other than intra-conference movement, which prior had been often denied without a sit out.
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GaitsRightHand wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:22 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:12 pm
GaitsRightHand wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:03 pm From my memory / In recent memory

TD - Albany to Yale (Junior)
Pat Burkinshaw - UVA to UPenn (Soph)
Chase Yager - Amherst to Harvard (Soph)
Ben Abladian - Bryant to Cornell (Soph)
Matteo Corsi - Cuse to Brown (Soph)
Aidan McLane- Fairfield to Brown (Soph)
Connell Kumar - UVA to UPenn (Junior)
I remember Ryan Matthews leaving Hopkins for Cornell as a Junior. I know his uncle.
Looks like he played 3 years at Cornell. But another name to the list
Corsi and McLane were Freshmen when they transferred to Brown as was Burkinshaw when he transferred to Penn. Yager redshirted his soph year at Amherst, and sat out 2021, so he had 3 years of eligibility. Kumar redshirted his Freshman year so again he had 3 years left. Ryan Matthews was pre-portal.
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BrownDad wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:35 pm
GaitsRightHand wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:22 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:12 pm
GaitsRightHand wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:03 pm From my memory / In recent memory

TD - Albany to Yale (Junior)
Pat Burkinshaw - UVA to UPenn (Soph)
Chase Yager - Amherst to Harvard (Soph)
Ben Abladian - Bryant to Cornell (Soph)
Matteo Corsi - Cuse to Brown (Soph)
Aidan McLane- Fairfield to Brown (Soph)
Connell Kumar - UVA to UPenn (Junior)
I remember Ryan Matthews leaving Hopkins for Cornell as a Junior. I know his uncle.
Looks like he played 3 years at Cornell. But another name to the list
Corsi and McLane were Freshmen when they transferred to Brown as was Burkinshaw when he transferred to Penn. Yager redshirted his soph year at Amherst, and sat out 2021, so he had 3 years of eligibility. Kumar redshirted his Freshman year so again he had 3 years left. Ryan Matthews was pre-portal.
I put (Soph) or (Junior) as in what year they were during their first season at an Ivy.

Also made this list more for the Ivy transfers in general vs only portal transfers
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GaitsRightHand wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:22 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:12 pm
GaitsRightHand wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:03 pm From my memory / In recent memory

TD - Albany to Yale (Junior)
Pat Burkinshaw - UVA to UPenn (Soph)
Chase Yager - Amherst to Harvard (Soph)
Ben Abladian - Bryant to Cornell (Soph)
Matteo Corsi - Cuse to Brown (Soph)
Aidan McLane- Fairfield to Brown (Soph)
Connell Kumar - UVA to UPenn (Junior)
I remember Ryan Matthews leaving Hopkins for Cornell as a Junior. I know his uncle.
Looks like he played 3 years at Cornell. But another name to the list
Possibly a red shirt at hopkins.
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