New England West 2024

[PhishFall97]

Does anyone have a stream for wick and bury?

[grelch]

Does anyone have a stream for wick and bury?

https://www.salisburyschool.org/athleti ... Plkwuxbm8o

[grelch]

Is it unreasonable to wonder whether Salisbury's program has dropped off a bit since Bobby Wynne stepped down?

[justanotherperson]

Some massive tilts this weekend.....

5/10/24
(Brunswick @ Sailsbury

5/11/24
Kent @ Westminster
Taft @ Loomis
TP @ Gunn
Deerfield @ AOF
NMH @ Phillips Exeter
Choate @ Hotchkiss

Westy by 15
Loomis by 2
TP by 8
Deerfield by 7
Exeter by 11
Choate by 4
Berkshire by 10 over WIlby
Harvey upsetting HH by 1

[PhishFall97]

Halftime at AOF:

AOF 7
DA 5.

Big Green in a dog fight on the road.... AOF goalie playing well, DA offense was a little sketchy to start but things have started to click a bit... Be worthy....

[Sportin' Life]

Two contenders for yesterday's surprise of the day: AOF's 12 - 10 victory over DA and Taft's complete domination of LC. The Big Green had won three straight before the Winged Beavers stopped their roll in a game they led at the end of each quarter. The Rhinos got off the bus and punched the Pelicans in the mouth early and often and led wire to wire. LC didn't get the strong performances it needed from key players while Taft's D was stout throughout and its O was sharp. The Rhinos played with purpose while the Pelicans looked lost searching for answers. The two are favored to meet again in the 5/22 FL tourney championship provided they take care of business in the semi-final games on 5/18. The Pelicans have some work to do between now and their final regular season game vs CRH on Wed.

[justanotherperson]

Crazy day, Man, Im glad my main job is just reporting data because my secondary job of picking games is quite off as I whiffed on Loomis / Taft and AOF / Deerfield. But that unpredictability is what makes NEW1 lax so great.

Choate with a squeaker over HKiss with good goaltending and the pipe being their best friend

[3rdPersonPlural]

OK....One of you Lax Savants help me figure this out?

My beloved Rhinos have had a difficult season, but their last game was a butt-whuppin' of a nationally significant LC team. Notes from the 'locals' was that their D was stout...and all year their D was up and down. Giving up 15 to DA and 11 to Hill were not great showings, but holding 'wick to 8 and LC to 5 had to be epic performances.

Our offense, which is larded with top D1 recruits who have played together for years, should be good for a dozen goals per game, yet they only managed 6 against Hill, 4 against 'wick (3rd lowest Goals Against for 'wick this season), and 3 against DA

Now they're slated for AOF on Wed. is it the 6-8 AOF that lost to Berkshire and 'kiss, or the mighty squad that beat Hill and just dispatched a peaking DA team that is showing up to face my Rhinos??

For both teams, this is a season-defining game. Both teams entered the season with high hopes and opened with a surprise loss. Both teams lost games they were expected to win.

Unless Taft beats Avon, this will be chalked up as a disappointing inaugural season for coach Rosner.

If AOF closes the season on a win streak over 2 of NEWest1's powerhouses, coach Jackson will have pretty well silenced the doubters who claim (rightly, in many cases) that on field performance as a player doesn't promise leadership chops with a coach's whistle.

This game is setting up to be one directly from a Hollywood Screenplay! Both programs are invested. Both coaches are gonna make (or spend) bones on the outcome. Both teams of kids are trying to improve their legacies. Ho Boy!!

I hope AOF isn't one of the schools with questionable Live Streams...

[justanotherperson]

Week 8 Not So Accurate NEW D1-2-3 rankings:

DI Observations (Tier 1: 1-3), Tier 2: 4-11). Tier 3 (12-13)
- just a crazy week which shows any given Sunday applies to lax and the margin of excellence is "wafer thin"
- in a clash for the top of Founders, Taft spanks Loomis. Taft with a good week beating Salisbury, who seems unable to score
- Choate with a very good week to win 2 and climb into the final spot of the Founders Playoff
- in the surprise of the week, AOF beats a hot Deerfield and the score was not as close as it seemed
- In a mild surprise, Westy lays it on Berkshire and a once promising Berkshire season continues to falter

D2 Observations
- Millbrook lays claim to the title and continues their dominance for D2 by beating Albany who had a chance to dethrone the champs which i got wrong
- Gunnery stumbling down the stretch with a loss to Wilby to put them out as a chance to be in the top 3
- GFA loses to King and their fall from the top spot last year
- RCDS loses a chance to get in the FAA playoffs by losing to HH who claims the 4th spot
- HH backs into the playoffs with a bad loss against Suffield Academy

D3 Observations
- I think I have to do some mores research as whomever is reporting scores is reporting false scores for HVAL - seperate post
- Harvey handily beats Williams to claim the D3 crown
- Forman beats Wooster to claim the best of Tier 2
- Marvelwood beats Storm king to stay out of the Tier 2 cellar

Notable Games
- Prep Nationals starts this week with Wick, Lville, Salisbury and Deerfield
- Founders League Playoffs - seedings TBD but I am predicting Taft, Loomis, Choate and TP in the top bracket
- FAA playoffs - schedule not out yet but should be King v HH and GCDS v GFA. GCDS firing on all cylinders and overcoming early season injury will squeak by King in the final
- HVAL (Hudson Valley) playoffs - scores are being misreported - will come back with a new post - Marvelwood for the championships?
- HVAL (houstaonic) playoffs - Harvey to take this
- Wick v Staples: Staples stumbling late in the season (Wick by 9)
- Deerfield v Salisbury: DField pissed (Dfield by 4)
- Choate v Loomis: can Choate continue to shake up Founders and rise from their early season slumber (Loomis by 5)
- AOF v Taft (Taft by 5)
- Hotchkiss vs TP: Hkiss needs a win to get into the playoff top bracket (TP by 3)
- Kent v Canterbury: can Kent get another win against a bad CBury team (CBury by 9)
- Albany v Gunnery for a what could have been game (Albany by 4)

RANKINGS
Current Last Week School Record Comments IL Rating Lax Numbers Rating
Division 1
1 1 Brunswick (15-0) Beats AOF (12-10) and Salisbury (14-8) 99.67 97.23
2 4 Taft (10-5) Beat Salisbury (11-6) and Loomis (13-5) 93.56 93.12
3 2 Loomis (13-2) Beat Williston (20-4) but loses to Taft (513) 95.59 94.45
4 3 Deerfield (10-5) Beat Nobles (14-8) and Kent (20-4) but lost to AOF (10-12) 96.89 94.82
5 5 Salisbury (8-7) Lost to Taft (6-11) and Wick (5-14) 93.44 91.87
6 7 Choate (9-3) Beats TP (14-10) and Hotchkiss (13-12) 89.95 89.74
7 6 Trinity Pawling (5-7) Lost to Choate (10-14) but beats Gunnery (14-10) 91.92 89.97
8 9 Hotchkiss (6-8) Beat Albany Acad (12-7) but loses to Choate (12-13) 88.55 87.56
9 10 Avon Old Farms (7-8) Lost to Brunswick (8-13) but beats Deerfield (12-10) 88.31 87.31
10 8 Berkshire (8-7) Lost to Westminster (13-19) 88.98 86.84
11 11 Westminster (6-9) Beats Berkshire (19-13) and Kent (20-2) 87.76 86.95
12 12 Northfield Mount Hermon (5-8) Beat Winchendon (12-7) ,Williston (11-6). Loses to Exeter (4-17) 79.99 75.83
13 13 Kent (1-13) Lost to Deerfield (4-20) and Westminster (2-20) 78.43 65.19

Division 2 West (mostly boarding)
1 2 Millbrook (11-3) Beat Albany (18-13) and Worcester Acad (17-3) 85.95 84.37
2 1 Albany Acadamies (10-5) Loss Millbrook (13-18) and HKiss (7-12), Beat Worcester A (16-0) 86.11 82.80
3 4 Wilbraham & Monson (7-5) Beat Gunnery (8-6) 81.24 75.59
4 3 Gunnery (7-6) Lost to Wilby (6-8) and TP (10-14) 83.74 80.51
5 5 Brunswick B (not JV) (9-4) Beat Salisbury2 (12-11) and St Lukes again (13-4) 80.56 75.27
6 6 Pomfret (4-11) Beat Austin Prep (14-5). Loses to Andover (8-17) 82.18 78.06
7 7 Williston (4-10) Lost to Loomis (4-20) and NMH (6-11) 80.03 76.11
8 8 Canterbury (3-11) Beats Cheshire Acad (13-4) but loses to Portsmouth Abbey (9-17) 77.76 74.12
9 10 Suffield Academy (3-10) Loss to GCDS (7-16) but beta HH (14-13) 72.52 68.30
10 9 Cheshire Academy (3-10) Lost to Canterbury (4-13) and GCDS (7-15) 73.57 67.09

Division 2 - FAA (Day Schools)
1 1 King School (15-1) Beat Hopkins (18-3) and GFA (8-15) 81.08 78.12
2 2 Greenwich Country Day (9-3) Beat Suffield Acad (16-7) and Cheshire Acad (15-7) 82.01 78.04
3 3 Greens Farms Academy (7-5) Beat St Lukes (10-9) but loses to King (15-8) 78.39 73.02
4 4 Hamden Hall (11-4) Beat RCDS (16-10) but lost to Suffield Acad (13-14) 79.33 71.57
5 5 Rye Country Day (6-6) Lost to HH (10-16) but beat Riverdal Country Day (8-4) 75.63 70.31
6 6 Kingswood Oxford (5-8) Lost to Suffield (5-11) but beat Hopkins (16-6) 71.92 65.70
7 7 St Lukes (2-7) Lost to GFA (9-10) and Wick2 (4-13) 73.13 67.50
8 8 Hopkins School (1-11) Lost to King (3-18) and KO (6-16) 71.16 64.19

Division 3
1 1 Harvey (12-2) Beat Williams (14-6) and Wooster (12-7) and forfeits HH 79.49 68.45
2 2 Williams School (10-3) Lost to Harvey (6-14) but beat Forman (13-3) 75.86 66.17
3 3 Hoosac (6-0) Beat South Kent (12-4) and Eagle Hill (10-8) 70.55 61.25
4 4 Forman (5-7) Lost to Williams (3-13) but beats Wooster (7-2) 70.53 59.17
5 5 Wooster (3-8) Lost to Harvey (7-12) and Forman (2-7) 69.24 59.65
6 6 Marvelwood (6-4) Beat Christian Heritage (9-4) and Storm King (16-2) 68.17 57.22
7 7 South Kent (1-8) Lost to Hoosac (4-12) 71.91 57.51
8 8 Storm King (4-4) Beat Darrow (12-5) but loses to Marvelwood (2-16) 68.62 55.87
9 9 Darrow (2-3) Lost to Storm King (5-12) 71.04 57.24
10 10 Masters (0-8) Lost to GCDS2 (6-9) 65.73 58.51
11 11 Woodhall (0-6) 63.48 50.97


FULL UPCOMING SCHEDULE
5/14 Brunswick Staples 10-4 90.88 88.61
5/15 AOF Taft 10-5 93.56 93.12
5/15 Berkshire Millbrook 11-3 85.95 84.37
5/15 Choate Loomis 13-2 95.59 94.45
5/15 Deerfield Salisbury 8-7 93.44 91.87
5/15 Hotchkiss TP 5-7 91.92 89.97
5/15 Kent Canterbury 3-11 77.76 74.12
5/15 Loomis Choate 9-3 89.95 89.74
5/15 Salisbury Deerfield 10-5 96.89 94.16
5/15 Taft AOF 7-8 88.31 87.31
5/15 TP Hotchkiss 6-8 88.55 87.56
5/15 Westminster Williston 4-10 80.03 76.11
5/17 Brunswick 1 Prep Nationals
5/17 Deerfield Prep Nationals
5/17 Salisbury Prep Nationals
5/17 Salisbury Prep Nationals
5/18 Berkshire Andover 8-5 89.51 88.09
5/18 FOUNDERS FOUNDERS
5/19 PREP NATIONALS PREP NATIONALS

5/13 HH King 15-1 81.08 78.12
5/13 Wilbraham Winchendon 8-9 78.71 74.12
5/14 Brunswick 2 Staples 2
5/14 GCDS GFA 7-5 78.39 73.02
5/14 GFA GCDS 9-3 82.01 78.04
5/14 King HH 11-4 79.33 71.57
5/15 Albany Acad Gunnery 7-6 83.74 80.51
5/15 Canterbury Kent 1-13 78.43 65.19
5/15 Cheshire Acad Austin Prep 3-15 78.33 73.08
5/15 Gunnery Albany Academies 10-5 86.11 82.80
5/15 Millbrook Berkshire 8-7 88.98 86.64
5/15 Pomfret Suffield Academy 3-10 72.52 68.30
5/15 RCDS NYSAIS
5/15 Suffield Acad Pomfret 4-11 82.18 78.06
5/15 Williston Westminster 6-9 87.76 86.95
5/16 GCDS FAA
5/16 GFA FAA
5/16 King FAA
5/16 RCDS NYSAIS
5/17 RCDS NYSAIS
5/18 Canterbury
5/18 Cheshire Acad D2 West
5/18 Millbrook Gunnery 7-6 83.74 80.51
5/18 Pomfret Colonial Tournament
5/18 Suffield Acad Wilbraham & Monson 7-5 81.24 75.59
5/18 Wilbraham Suffield 3-10 72.52 68.30
5/18 Williston Colonial Tournament

5/14 Harvey HVAL
5/14 Williams HVAL
5/14 Wooster HVAL
5/15 Hoosac Winchendon 8-9 78.71 74.12
5/15 Marvelwood HVAL
5/16 Wooster HVAL
5/18 Marvelwood HVAL
5/18 Masters Wooster 3-8 3-8 3-8
5/18 Wooster Masters 0-8 65.73 58.51

[justanotherperson]

OK....One of you Lax Savants help me figure this out?

My beloved Rhinos have had a difficult season, but their last game was a butt-whuppin' of a nationally significant LC team. Notes from the 'locals' was that their D was stout...and all year their D was up and down. Giving up 15 to DA and 11 to Hill were not great showings, but holding 'wick to 8 and LC to 5 had to be epic performances.

Our offense, which is larded with top D1 recruits who have played together for years, should be good for a dozen goals per game, yet they only managed 6 against Hill, 4 against 'wick (3rd lowest Goals Against for 'wick this season), and 3 against DA

Now they're slated for AOF on Wed. is it the 6-8 AOF that lost to Berkshire and 'kiss, or the mighty squad that beat Hill and just dispatched a peaking DA team that is showing up to face my Rhinos??

For both teams, this is a season-defining game. Both teams entered the season with high hopes and opened with a surprise loss. Both teams lost games they were expected to win.

Unless Taft beats Avon, this will be chalked up as a disappointing inaugural season for coach Rosner.

If AOF closes the season on a win streak over 2 of NEWest1's powerhouses, coach Jackson will have pretty well silenced the doubters who claim (rightly, in many cases) that on field performance as a player doesn't promise leadership chops with a coach's whistle.

This game is setting up to be one directly from a Hollywood Screenplay! Both programs are invested. Both coaches are gonna make (or spend) bones on the outcome. Both teams of kids are trying to improve their legacies. Ho Boy!!

I hope AOF isn't one of the schools with questionable Live Streams...

Not a savant but Ill take a stab. I think Taft is peaking at the right time and defense seems to have righted the ship and they are firing on all cylinders (and whatever other cliches you can muster up)

AOF is soooooo streaky. The Deerfield game was not a blowout but also not as close as the score suggests. Their game will be decided by how crisp their offense plays and which goaltender plays, the PG goalie or the backup junior.. The defense is solid and if a goalie shows up, it could be close. But overall, ackson seems to be building towards something as they have some good young talent and is holding the fort with some PG's this year to help transition to future years.

The livestream should be good. But never fear 3PP, Taft is playing well and should win the game, but it has been a strange season...

[colaxn]

Does anybody have information on when, where the Founders League Championship will be played? Can’t find any information online and nothing has come from our school or coach.

[Sportin' Life]

Does anybody have information on when, where the Founders League Championship will be played? Can’t find any information online and nothing has come from our school or coach.

The semi-final games are this Sat., 5/18 and the final is on Wed., 5/22.

[tyxandersbackup]

Does anybody have information on when, where the Founders League Championship will be played? Can’t find any information online and nothing has come from our school or coach.

The semi-final games are this Sat., 5/18 and the final is on Wed., 5/22.

Semi finals and finals are hosted by top seed. So should be the following:

1) Taft vs winner of TP/Hotchkiss (both have tiebreaker over AOF)
2) Loomis vs. Choate

Will be weird to not see the winged beavers in the tournament this year. New coach can't seem to keep his team playing consistently enough to make it. Too many bad losses.

Surprised TP might be able to sneak in after a roller coaster year and losing their best player going to UVA. They have not been able to win back to back games all year and dropped a D2 game to Millbrook for first time in years. TP has never made FL playoffs and played Taft as tight as anyone this year so would love to see a rematch of that game.

Hotchkiss is hot right now. Goalie playing well. New coach has them firing on all cylinders after knocking off AOF and Salisbury in same week. Would be shocked if they don't get the job done vs. TP.

[onemore18!]

Are you sure you got this right for Founders League? I have Choate with 4 League Wins. TP and AOF with 3 League Wins each. Hotchkiss with only 2 League wins.

If this is correct it is still very up in the air for 3rd and 4th spots until after tomorrow. I could def be wrong but just jotted down results from IL site.

[justanotherperson]

I dont know the tiebreakers for Founders. I naturally thought it would be head to head first but someone told me its point differential first. Current standings (please correct any errors)

BTW: if it is PD (point differential), Loomis gets screwed by the 1-0 forfeit with Kent. Almost everyone else's PD is inflated because of Kent. I am surprised by the PD of Choate. That meant a lot of close wins and some bad losses. I cant imagine its PD: it would really encourage running up of scores which is not very "Founders like"

Taft (6-0) +53 PD (AOF remaining)
Loomis (5-1) +21 (Choate)
Choate (4-2) +8 (Loomis)
TP (3-3) +26 (Hkiss)
AOF (3-3) +6 (Taft)
Hotchkiss (2-4) -7 (TP)
Westminster (2-5) -26 (done)
Kent (0-6) -89 (done)

So basically here are some scenarios:
- #1 and 8 are locked up (I know only the top 4 play in the winner bracket)
- If Choate beats Loomis, they take the #2 seed (if head to head). They need to win by 13 if it is by PD
- TP needs Choate to lose to Loomis and not lose by 18 if it is PD to take the #3 seed. If it is head to head, then TP can't secure the 3 seed
- if Hkiss loses and its head to head, Westy moves into the 6 spot ad Hkiss falls to 7. If its PD, HKiss needs to lose by >19

Finally here are the TP AOF HKiss scenarios
- TP needs to just win to secure the 4th spot
- Hkiss needs to win and AOF to secure the the spot, if head to head If it is by PD, they need to win by 33
- AOF needs to beat Taft to have any chance. If AOF wins and TP wins (Hkiss loses), head to head they are done. If PD, then AOF need to win by a billion
- If AOF wins and TP loses (HKiss wins), then they secure the 4th spot
- If AOF loses AND TP loses (Hkiss win), they dont have any chance against TP or Hkiss if its head to head. If its by PD, they need HKiss to win by anything less than (~somewhere around) 13 and AOF would need to beat Taft by ~at least 7
- Hkiss pathway is to beat TP and AOF lose by somewhere around 13 if it is PD. Head to head to get in with a win and AOF loss

Those last scenarios just hurt my brain. Bottom line, TP AOF Hkiss all need a win

Good luck to everyone today

[justanotherperson]

FAA Playoff results (NEW2 Day Schools) went as predicted

GCDS beats GFA 17-10
King beats HH 15-2

This sets up GCDS v King on Thursday. King one the 1st but I have GCDS in the rematch in a squeaker

In other games
-Wick beat Staples 11-5
-In HouVal playoffs: Williams beats Forman 12-5 and Harvey beats Wooster setting up a 3rd game which Harvey should win (Harvey won the 1st two)

[PhishFall97]

5/15/24 Schedule:

Millbrook @ Berkshire
Sailsbury @ Deerfield (LFG)
Taft @ AOF
Choate @ Loomis
TP @ Hotchkiss
Cantebury @ Kent
Willston @ Westy


Let's enjoy them all.

[tyxandersbackup]

FL is H2H unless it is a 3 way tie. Then it goes to GA not PD. A 3 way tie is almost impossible unless Avon loses.

Taft is guranteed the 1 seed. Loomis is 2 seed unless they lose to Choate today. Choate posted on Insta that it has secured a spot so there is no way they do not make the tournament. Leaves 1 spot remaining for TP, Hkiss and AOF.

Wild card scenario is AOF loses and Hkiss beats TP. Then all 3 would be tied at 3-4 in league. Since it is not an A beat B, B beat C and C beat A scenario, AOF should be on outside looking in as they lost to both Hkiss and TP. So in this scenario I believe that Hkiss gets in with H2H over TP and AOF.

If TP wins they are in. Only team that can control their destiny from my vantage point.

If AOF wins and Hkiss wins, AOF goes through for final spot.

If AOF loses and HKiss wins, Hkiss goes through for final spot.

Seems like FL should post something about rules so we all know more about what's going on!

Excited to see Bury vs. DA today. Not sure if I would want to win that game or lose that game. Winner gets L'ville and loser gets Wick. Can either Bury or DA compete with wick and L'ville??

Choate Loomis could be a great case of holding cards close to your chest knowing that you will almost definitely see each other in the first round of FL playoffs.

Millbrook Berkshire should be a good one. Can Millbrook win another D1 game? Is Berkshire ready to bounce back and compete?

Another big D2 game for 2nd place between Albany Academy and Gunnery. I'll take AA -5 in this one.

[Sportin' Life]

I'd be shocked if AOF loses to Taft today but I was shocked when the Winged Beavers beat DA on Sat. I think 'wick and L'ville can be confident in booking plans for the Prep Nationals final on Sun. LC vs CRH is a repeat of last season when the Pelicans went on the road to beat the Wild Boars in the last regular season game and then beat them at home in the FL tourney semi-finals three days later. No doubt CRH has this in the back of its mind and would like to flip the script this season.

[justanotherperson]

FL is H2H unless it is a 3 way tie. Then it goes to GA not PD. A 3 way tie is almost impossible unless Avon loses.

Taft is guranteed the 1 seed. Loomis is 2 seed unless they lose to Choate today. Choate posted on Insta that it has secured a spot so there is no way they do not make the tournament. Leaves 1 spot remaining for TP, Hkiss and AOF.

Wild card scenario is AOF loses and Hkiss beats TP. Then all 3 would be tied at 3-4 in league. Since it is not an A beat B, B beat C and C beat A scenario, AOF should be on outside looking in as they lost to both Hkiss and TP. So in this scenario I believe that Hkiss gets in with H2H over TP and AOF.

If TP wins they are in. Only team that can control their destiny from my vantage point.

If AOF wins and Hkiss wins, AOF goes through for final spot.

If AOF loses and HKiss wins, Hkiss goes through for final spot.

Seems like FL should post something about rules so we all know more about what's going on!

Excited to see Bury vs. DA today. Not sure if I would want to win that game or lose that game. Winner gets L'ville and loser gets Wick. Can either Bury or DA compete with wick and L'ville??

Choate Loomis could be a great case of holding cards close to your chest knowing that you will almost definitely see each other in the first round of FL playoffs.

Millbrook Berkshire should be a good one. Can Millbrook win another D1 game? Is Berkshire ready to bounce back and compete?

Another big D2 game for 2nd place between Albany Academy and Gunnery. I'll take AA -5 in this one.

Thanks TXB. I think you said it way better than I.

Thanks for clarifying its head to head unless a three way tie, then it becomes GA (not PD). That makes much more sense and preserves the sportsmanship. A clarifying question, if AOF loses and Hkiss beats TP, then its a 3 way tie so HKiss would not necessarily get the bid over AOF as it would be dependent on GA? and their goals allowed is the worst out of the 3? Updated standings with GA:

Taft (6-0) GA-37
Loomis (5-1) GA-43
Choate (4-2) GA 49
TP (3-3) GA 53
AOF (3-3) GA 52
Hotchkiss (2-4) GA 64
Westminster (2-5) GA 63
Kent (0-7) -89 GA 100