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The Orfling wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:31 am Great win for the Mids. Navy had the answer all night long. Many teams right now would be delighted to have the combination of Hayashi at FOGO and Daly in goal. Now, if they can just cut down on those turnovers . . .
Two bad teams last night with someone having to win. Navy goalie won the game as Loyola keep settling for bad outside shots. Navy can win every FO with Lehigh but if they turn the ball over 20 plus times it will not matter. And don’t think amplo will get to yell and scream at the refs like he does at home vs WP. He should have been flagged in the last to games.
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grt win , cudos to Dutch alumni manning the helm on the navy sideline
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hofpride wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:54 am grt win , cudos to Dutch alumni manning the helm on the navy sideline
Yeah
I suspect he bought himself one more year with the
reaching of the semis.
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On to Army to meet Lehigh. I say the Mids get it done this time.
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10stone5 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:49 am
hofpride wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:54 am grt win , cudos to Dutch alumni manning the helm on the navy sideline
Yeah
I suspect he bought himself one more year with the
reaching of the semis.
Even with the number of graduating Navy seniors, it's encouraging to project the 2025 rosters for Loyola, BU, Army & Lehigh after they lose all their 5th yr & seniors. Navy, Colgate & Bucknell return a lot of experienced & proven players for '25..

It will be interesting to see if any PL teams attract any transfers for 2025.
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old salt wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 5:44 pm
10stone5 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:49 am
hofpride wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:54 am grt win , cudos to Dutch alumni manning the helm on the navy sideline
Yeah
I suspect he bought himself one more year with the
reaching of the semis.
Even with the number of graduating Navy seniors, it's encouraging to project the 2025 rosters for Loyola, BU, Army & Lehigh after they lose all their 5th yr & seniors. Navy, Colgate & Bucknell return a lot of experienced & proven players for '25..

It will be interesting to see if any PL teams attract any transfers for 2025.
Attack will be interesting….with 10 and 9 returning….two lefties, who’s the righty….14? 4 is also a lefty.
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youthathletics wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 9:30 pm
old salt wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 5:44 pm
10stone5 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:49 am
hofpride wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:54 am grt win , cudos to Dutch alumni manning the helm on the navy sideline
Yeah
I suspect he bought himself one more year with the
reaching of the semis.
Even with the number of graduating Navy seniors, it's encouraging to project the 2025 rosters for Loyola, BU, Army & Lehigh after they lose all their 5th yr & seniors. Navy, Colgate & Bucknell return a lot of experienced & proven players for '25..

It will be interesting to see if any PL teams attract any transfers for 2025.
Attack will be interesting….with 10 and 9 returning….two lefties, who’s the righty….14? 4 is also a lefty.
9 did well on MF1 this year. Just based on who's returning, could go with (based solely on most game experience, to date)
A -- 14R, 10L, 4L
MF1 -- 9L, 32,51
MF2 -- 3L,17,15
Solid returning core. Who knows who'll break out from other returnees & new arrivals.

On D, losing 26, 8, 33
Returning 66, 67, 36, 48, 38
37,11, 59, 41, 31, 46, 18
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Mid 3rd quarter and #1 is already the MVP. 28 and 24 to’s and 26 shooting from a millions yards out is showing signs of frustration and stress.

26 getting smoked on goal 6 by Lehigh with their motion offense.

It’s like our SSDM’s are taught to swing stick as their first move and now we seem to have forgotten what to do when we get picked. 🤬
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In 3rd qtr Lehigh is moving the ball around on 6x6 like they are up a man. And Navy cannot seem to even get it around the horn without a TO.

C’mon Navy!
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….Agreed. 24 pass to 2 over is head near end of 3rd. 4 TO’s in last 5-6 O possessions.
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Just getting out-played. It happens.
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SkateG wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:59 pm Just getting out-played. It happens.
Self inflicted doesn’t help. Another TO from 2 —> 10
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Someone loves dropping the eff bomb on the sidings.

….and another TO, this one by —>28
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Checko is killing them when Navy is not killing themselves
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Turnandrake wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 9:14 pm Checko is killing them when Navy is not killing themselves
Great player…. and he’s simplifying it by just keeping his stick up.
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Laid an egg last night, what a bummer. Felt like the league was up for the taking this year with Army underachieving. Talent wise we could have been the best group.

Lehigh seems to just be our kyptonite.
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Navy has been largely uncompetitive since Richie Meade got them to the championship vs Syracuse and lost in OT. Hired and fired HCs since don't seem to make a difference. Navy just doesn't have a killer instinct. Goes deeper than coaching. And not just in lax.
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SQZ7233 wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 10:59 pm Navy has been largely uncompetitive since Richie Meade got them to the championship vs Syracuse and lost in OT. Hired and fired HCs since don't seem to make a difference. Navy just doesn't have a killer instinct. Goes deeper than coaching. And not just in lax.
Not necessarily. I wouldn’t call making it to within a goal of the final four in 2016 uncompetitive. You can group both Navy and Army together in that statement. They’ve been about the same from that year in 2004 and onward. That’s just being realistic nowadays, nothing to do with a killer instinct.

Frustrating part for Navy is they are trending in the wrong direction. Ever since 2016 - it hasn’t been working.
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Maybe they should have hired from within??
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Abr2016 wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 11:10 pm
SQZ7233 wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 10:59 pm Navy has been largely uncompetitive since Richie Meade got them to the championship vs Syracuse and lost in OT. Hired and fired HCs since don't seem to make a difference. Navy just doesn't have a killer instinct. Goes deeper than coaching. And not just in lax.
Not necessarily. I wouldn’t call making it to within a goal of the final four in 2016 uncompetitive. You can group both Navy and Army together in that statement. They’ve been about the same from that year in 2004 and onward. That’s just being realistic nowadays, nothing to do with a killer instinct.

Frustrating part for Navy is they are trending in the wrong direction. Ever since 2016 - it hasn’t been working.
2004 was a special year for a special team. First year in the PL + a top tier OOC sched (which can no longer be replicated).
2004 wasn't just a 1 year flash in the pan. It was the first of 6 straight NCAA appearances for Navy.
I do agree Navy's not been a top tier team since Richie was forced out....for numerous reasons.
The sport has grown & changed significantly since then. There's more & better competition, none of which favors the service academies.
Army has yet to put together a run like Navy 2004-2009. There's not that much difference between Army & Navy, especially going forward with no more future 5th year players for Army. Nor has Army dominated Navy the way Navy dominate Army under Richie.
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