SpartanLaxFanatic wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:50 pm
This has less to do with the new OC and more to do with a lack of effort on the recruiting trail over the last few years. The talent is just not there right now in Lancaster. Doesn't help when your two best freshmen leave after their first year - but that might be a sign of larger issues.
Agree with this. Lot of people put tons of emphasis on coaching- obviously it makes an impact (especially at either extreme) but in my opinion the deciding factor in W/Ls over the course of a season is almost exclusively talent. Especially with the talent level in Div3 lax getting so high- if you don’t have the guys to compete it gets rough.
If a team loses a tough game- coaching may be at fault, if a team loses a lot of games- maybe they’re lacking on the roster.
Had posted in the Top 20 Poll forum about tonight's matchup in OM.
Being an early 2010's era Stevenson guy, F&M was almost ALWAYS a tough CC team, who dwelled reguarly in the top 20.
What I saw tonight just didn't resonate well with me bc I was most certainly expecting a good game here. F&M tuition being raised might be an issue, spoke briefly with some of my F&M contacts and looks like tuition is WAY up.
StevieUAlum wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:58 pm
Had posted in the Top 20 Poll forum about tonight's matchup in OM.
Being an early 2010's era Stevenson guy, F&M was almost ALWAYS a tough CC team, who dwelled reguarly in the top 20.
What I saw tonight just didn't resonate well with me bc I was most certainly expecting a good game here. F&M tuition being raised might be an issue, spoke briefly with some of my F&M contacts and looks like tuition is WAY up.
Tuition is definitely a factor, although it’s always been the highest in CC if I’m not mistaken. They are pulling kids from great programs and if I’m not mistaken, they are a little more selective with admissions than other Cc foes (besides swathmore and haverford). Those schools seem to preform well despite high tuition (Nescac / w&l). Their drop off is definitely odd as it seemed like 2016-2021 they had really been elevating.
Swarthmore v Gettysburg: this has become quite the rivalry in the CC, and the most exciting game of the year for me. Swarthmore has beaten Gettysburg 3 straight times, all in exciting fashion. This time last year Swarthmore completed a 6 goal comeback to upset the bullets in OT, and I’m sure Gettysburg hasn’t forgotten about it. Surely Gettysburg wants revenge, and Swarthmore wants to prove there has been a changing of guards at the top of the CC.
I think specialist play lifts Swarthmore here, give me the Garnet 13-12!
Dickinson v WAC: not much to talk about here, Dickinson rolls. 15-7.
Ursinus v Haverford: hugely important game for both teams. Winner will put themselves in a decent position to get in the playoffs. Give me the fords 11-9
McDaniel v Muhlenberg: McDaniel seems to be getting better year over year but not sure they’re ready to compete in games like this. I hope they are soon, but for now give me the mules 18-9.
CentennialPundit wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:11 am
Some exciting games coming up this weekend.
Swarthmore v Gettysburg: this has become quite the rivalry in the CC, and the most exciting game of the year for me. Swarthmore has beaten Gettysburg 3 straight times, all in exciting fashion. This time last year Swarthmore completed a 6 goal comeback to upset the bullets in OT, and I’m sure Gettysburg hasn’t forgotten about it. Surely Gettysburg wants revenge, and Swarthmore wants to prove there has been a changing of guards at the top of the CC.
I think specialist play lifts Swarthmore here, give me the Garnet 13-12!
Dickinson v WAC: not much to talk about here, Dickinson rolls. 15-7.
Ursinus v Haverford: hugely important game for both teams. Winner will put themselves in a decent position to get in the playoffs. Give me the fords 11-9
McDaniel v Muhlenberg: McDaniel seems to be getting better year over year but not sure they’re ready to compete in games like this. I hope they are soon, but for now give me the mules 18-9.
Swarthmore certainly has been Gettysburg's Kryptonite the past 2 years and a noon road game could cause some issues. However, the Bullet's defense has proven to be more than capable of negating the FO deficit they normally face. This year the starting goalie is healthy (played last year with a broken foot) the save percentage is up to .553% this year compared to .442% last year. Bullet's 15-12
Dickinson is still the team to beat in my opinion but they seem to struggle at times to put away teams they should handle easily. WAC is looking for a high value scalp, they won't get it this week but they will push the Devils. Dickinson 14-11
CentennialPundit wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:11 am
Some exciting games coming up this weekend.
Swarthmore v Gettysburg: this has become quite the rivalry in the CC, and the most exciting game of the year for me. Swarthmore has beaten Gettysburg 3 straight times, all in exciting fashion. This time last year Swarthmore completed a 6 goal comeback to upset the bullets in OT, and I’m sure Gettysburg hasn’t forgotten about it. Surely Gettysburg wants revenge, and Swarthmore wants to prove there has been a changing of guards at the top of the CC.
I think specialist play lifts Swarthmore here, give me the Garnet 13-12!
Dickinson v WAC: not much to talk about here, Dickinson rolls. 15-7.
Ursinus v Haverford: hugely important game for both teams. Winner will put themselves in a decent position to get in the playoffs. Give me the fords 11-9
McDaniel v Muhlenberg: McDaniel seems to be getting better year over year but not sure they’re ready to compete in games like this. I hope they are soon, but for now give me the mules 18-9.
Swarthmore certainly has been Gettysburg's Kryptonite the past 2 years and a noon road game could cause some issues. However, the Bullet's defense has proven to be more than capable of negating the FO deficit they normally face. This year the starting goalie is healthy (played last year with a broken foot) the save percentage is up to .553% this year compared to .442% last year. Bullet's 15-12
Dickinson is still the team to beat in my opinion but they seem to struggle at times to put away teams they should handle easily. WAC is looking for a high value scalp, they won't get it this week but they will push the Devils. Dickinson 14-11
I agree with the Mules and Haverford
For Swat to beat The Bullets, they will need better production out of some players quiet as of late. Looking for Mabbs, Almgren and Carter to show balance on assists AND goals. Convert FO won into goals and show some sort of transition fast break success. Drew needs some early stops. If not, they should make a switch quickly to shift momentum. Remember a comeback team here! I think if swat takes them out of their offense momentum with better adjacent slides and faster doubles on their key scorers, we have a swat win 16-14.
Men, we've reached the heart of conference play, where memories are made and sorrows are suppressed. As these ball clubs battle for CC supremacy, and the privilege to booze victoriously on Saturday, a few major story lines have emerged: Is it time to break out the pitchforks and torches in Lancaster? Are Swarthmore fraudulent? Will McDaniel win a conference game this decade? Your guess is as good as mine folks. We've got a stacked lineup of games this weekend, grab your popcorn and gamble responsibly.
Dickinson (-6.5) @ WAC
Dickinson hasn't been blowing teams out of the water, but they've been doing what good teams do, win. WAC has shown offensive promise against teams like Elizabethtown and an underrated Skidmore. I've heard that the parents throw a mean tailgate down in Chestertown, maybe that can give them the extra boost they need to cover here? I'm afraid that WAC just doesn't have that GUY this year, while Dickinson has 3 or 4 of them. Gannon has particularly stood out on film this year with his physical dodging and heady ball movement. While they sit at 9-1, the Red Devils are surprisingly 3-7 against the spread this year. I think this could be a closer game than anticipated, but Dickinson will take care of business. However, I would scroll past this one on DraftKings this weekend. Red Devils 14-8.
Ursinus @ Haverford (-3.5)
One of the most intriguing matchups of the weekend, as Haverford looks to cement themselves into the playoff picture and Ursinus tries to revitalize their season. It cannot be overstated what a win here would mean for both of these ball clubs. Ursinus did fall to a couple mid-majors this year, but has shown a lot of growth when faced with challenging OOC opponents. They needed young guys to step up and Sweitzer has delivered for them. Haverford let things get out of hand last weekend against Gettysburg who dominated the game whistle to whistle. They will need to get back in their offensive flow and gets points from their midfield. The goalie play will undoubtably be there. These teams have an underrated rivalry, as their games can get chippy and are always close. I think Haverford's offense has more weapons this year and I question the Ursinus coaching heavily. Give me Haverford moneyline and I'll take the points too. Fords 15-10.
Gettysburg (-1.5) @ SwarthmoreRoyal Farms® Game of the Week
This matchup has provided instant classics as of late. Swat has won 3 straight against the Bullets, who always seem to be foiled by Gress's witchcraft. I think these teams are very even in talent level, with Swat having more offensive flair and Gettysburg having some lumberjacks down low. The strength coach out in Gettysburg certainly has the hook up on some backdoor anabolics from Tijuana. This game is going to be close, Swarthmore is going to put the ball in Strauch's stick at the end of the game. I think this Gettysburg team benefits from maybe being a bit under the radar this year (sounds crazy with them being the #9 ranked team in the country). Swarthmore will cover the 1.5 since this game is destined for overtime, but I think Gettysburg gets the better of the Garnet this time. 14-13 Bullets.
McDaniel @ Muhlenberg (-8.5)
People forget that this was a close one last year. The Mules are worse this year and McDaniel is better. The Green Terror got picked apart in their first 3 conference games, but i like the way they match up with Muhlenberg. Fritz is having an impressive CC-HM level season, but their defensive has folded in conference. Muhlenberg is playing with some moxie and has their eyes set on that 5 seed. I would love to say this one will be close, but it won't be. Barring a history performance from Lorber in cage, the Mules will roll into Week 4 at 2-1. I'm staying away from the spread here, given what happened last year. Mules 16-8
Ash()kG wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:39 pm
Men, we've reached the heart of conference play, where memories are made and sorrows are suppressed. As these ball clubs battle for CC supremacy, and the privilege to booze victoriously on Saturday, a few major story lines have emerged: Is it time to break out the pitchforks and torches in Lancaster? Are Swarthmore fraudulent? Will McDaniel win a conference game this decade? Your guess is as good as mine folks. We've got a stacked lineup of games this weekend, grab your popcorn and gamble responsibly.
Dickinson (-6.5) @ WAC
Dickinson hasn't been blowing teams out of the water, but they've been doing what good teams do, win. WAC has shown offensive promise against teams like Elizabethtown and an underrated Skidmore. I've heard that the parents throw a mean tailgate down in Chestertown, maybe that can give them the extra boost they need to cover here? I'm afraid that WAC just doesn't have that GUY this year, while Dickinson has 3 or 4 of them. Gannon has particularly stood out on film this year with his physical dodging and heady ball movement. While they sit at 9-1, the Red Devils are surprisingly 3-7 against the spread this year. I think this could be a closer game than anticipated, but Dickinson will take care of business. However, I would scroll past this one on DraftKings this weekend. Red Devils 14-8.
Ursinus @ Haverford (-3.5)
One of the most intriguing matchups of the weekend, as Haverford looks to cement themselves into the playoff picture and Ursinus tries to revitalize their season. It cannot be overstated what a win here would mean for both of these ball clubs. Ursinus did fall to a couple mid-majors this year, but has shown a lot of growth when faced with challenging OOC opponents. They needed young guys to step up and Sweitzer has delivered for them. Haverford let things get out of hand last weekend against Gettysburg who dominated the game whistle to whistle. They will need to get back in their offensive flow and gets points from their midfield. The goalie play will undoubtably be there. These teams have an underrated rivalry, as their games can get chippy and are always close. I think Haverford's offense has more weapons this year and I question the Ursinus coaching heavily. Give me Haverford moneyline and I'll take the points too. Fords 15-10.
Gettysburg (-1.5) @ SwarthmoreRoyal Farms® Game of the Week
This matchup has provided instant classics as of late. Swat has won 3 straight against the Bullets, who always seem to be foiled by Gress's witchcraft. I think these teams are very even in talent level, with Swat having more offensive flair and Gettysburg having some lumberjacks down low. The strength coach out in Gettysburg certainly has the hook up on some backdoor anabolics from Tijuana. This game is going to be close, Swarthmore is going to put the ball in Strauch's stick at the end of the game. I think this Gettysburg team benefits from maybe being a bit under the radar this year (sounds crazy with them being the #9 ranked team in the country). Swarthmore will cover the 1.5 since this game is destined for overtime, but I think Gettysburg gets the better of the Garnet this time. 14-13 Bullets.
McDaniel @ Muhlenberg (-8.5)
People forget that this was a close one last year. The Mules are worse this year and McDaniel is better. The Green Terror got picked apart in their first 3 conference games, but i like the way they match up with Muhlenberg. Fritz is having an impressive CC-HM level season, but their defensive has folded in conference. Muhlenberg is playing with some moxie and has their eyes set on that 5 seed. I would love to say this one will be close, but it won't be. Barring a history performance from Lorber in cage, the Mules will roll into Week 4 at 2-1. I'm staying away from the spread here, given what happened last year. Mules 16-8
This is one of the best posts of all time for the CC thread. Can you please do this once a week? Hilarious yet accurate. Except Gettysburg is going to smash Swat - they win by 5+
Ash()kG wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:39 pm
Men, we've reached the heart of conference play, where memories are made and sorrows are suppressed. As these ball clubs battle for CC supremacy, and the privilege to booze victoriously on Saturday, a few major story lines have emerged: Is it time to break out the pitchforks and torches in Lancaster? Are Swarthmore fraudulent? Will McDaniel win a conference game this decade? Your guess is as good as mine folks. We've got a stacked lineup of games this weekend, grab your popcorn and gamble responsibly.
Dickinson (-6.5) @ WAC
Dickinson hasn't been blowing teams out of the water, but they've been doing what good teams do, win. WAC has shown offensive promise against teams like Elizabethtown and an underrated Skidmore. I've heard that the parents throw a mean tailgate down in Chestertown, maybe that can give them the extra boost they need to cover here? I'm afraid that WAC just doesn't have that GUY this year, while Dickinson has 3 or 4 of them. Gannon has particularly stood out on film this year with his physical dodging and heady ball movement. While they sit at 9-1, the Red Devils are surprisingly 3-7 against the spread this year. I think this could be a closer game than anticipated, but Dickinson will take care of business. However, I would scroll past this one on DraftKings this weekend. Red Devils 14-8.
Ursinus @ Haverford (-3.5)
One of the most intriguing matchups of the weekend, as Haverford looks to cement themselves into the playoff picture and Ursinus tries to revitalize their season. It cannot be overstated what a win here would mean for both of these ball clubs. Ursinus did fall to a couple mid-majors this year, but has shown a lot of growth when faced with challenging OOC opponents. They needed young guys to step up and Sweitzer has delivered for them. Haverford let things get out of hand last weekend against Gettysburg who dominated the game whistle to whistle. They will need to get back in their offensive flow and gets points from their midfield. The goalie play will undoubtably be there. These teams have an underrated rivalry, as their games can get chippy and are always close. I think Haverford's offense has more weapons this year and I question the Ursinus coaching heavily. Give me Haverford moneyline and I'll take the points too. Fords 15-10.
Gettysburg (-1.5) @ SwarthmoreRoyal Farms® Game of the Week
This matchup has provided instant classics as of late. Swat has won 3 straight against the Bullets, who always seem to be foiled by Gress's witchcraft. I think these teams are very even in talent level, with Swat having more offensive flair and Gettysburg having some lumberjacks down low. The strength coach out in Gettysburg certainly has the hook up on some backdoor anabolics from Tijuana. This game is going to be close, Swarthmore is going to put the ball in Strauch's stick at the end of the game. I think this Gettysburg team benefits from maybe being a bit under the radar this year (sounds crazy with them being the #9 ranked team in the country). Swarthmore will cover the 1.5 since this game is destined for overtime, but I think Gettysburg gets the better of the Garnet this time. 14-13 Bullets.
McDaniel @ Muhlenberg (-8.5)
People forget that this was a close one last year. The Mules are worse this year and McDaniel is better. The Green Terror got picked apart in their first 3 conference games, but i like the way they match up with Muhlenberg. Fritz is having an impressive CC-HM level season, but their defensive has folded in conference. Muhlenberg is playing with some moxie and has their eyes set on that 5 seed. I would love to say this one will be close, but it won't be. Barring a history performance from Lorber in cage, the Mules will roll into Week 4 at 2-1. I'm staying away from the spread here, given what happened last year. Mules 16-8
Dickinson vs Washington- Washington fumbled away an halftime lead vs Muhlenberg last week. The offense is scoring goals but musical goalies dosent seem to be the most effective way of doing things. Dickinson has a scare last week vs St. Marys. They will be focused. Devils 14-8
Ursinus vs Haverford- Huge game for both these teams. Haverford can really score but their defense is basically pray their goalie makes 20 saves. Ursinus had a workmen like showing last week vs McDaniel absolutely dominated possessions but struggled with shooting. If the Bears can handle the pace I think they take this 13-12
Gettysburg vs Swat- Game of the Week, absolutely mind boggling to me that Swat has a three game win streak going into this game. Gettysburg is better on defense, Swat is better on offense, Gettysburg is probably slightly better in the cage, while Swat is better at the X. I think Gettysburg controls the game like they did vs York 14-9. They seem focused and confident right now
Muhlenberg vs Western MD- The Terror cannot win a Faceoff. Tough to play good defense when your opponent has the ball 80% of the time and even tougher to score. Muhlenberg is much better than their record says. Last year the Mules survived in Westminster but I don’t see this one going the same way. Mules 16-5
Ash()kG wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:39 pm
Men, we've reached the heart of conference play, where memories are made and sorrows are suppressed. As these ball clubs battle for CC supremacy, and the privilege to booze victoriously on Saturday, a few major story lines have emerged: Is it time to break out the pitchforks and torches in Lancaster? Are Swarthmore fraudulent? Will McDaniel win a conference game this decade? Your guess is as good as mine folks. We've got a stacked lineup of games this weekend, grab your popcorn and gamble responsibly.
Dickinson (-6.5) @ WAC
Dickinson hasn't been blowing teams out of the water, but they've been doing what good teams do, win. WAC has shown offensive promise against teams like Elizabethtown and an underrated Skidmore. I've heard that the parents throw a mean tailgate down in Chestertown, maybe that can give them the extra boost they need to cover here? I'm afraid that WAC just doesn't have that GUY this year, while Dickinson has 3 or 4 of them. Gannon has particularly stood out on film this year with his physical dodging and heady ball movement. While they sit at 9-1, the Red Devils are surprisingly 3-7 against the spread this year. I think this could be a closer game than anticipated, but Dickinson will take care of business. However, I would scroll past this one on DraftKings this weekend. Red Devils 14-8.
Ursinus @ Haverford (-3.5)
One of the most intriguing matchups of the weekend, as Haverford looks to cement themselves into the playoff picture and Ursinus tries to revitalize their season. It cannot be overstated what a win here would mean for both of these ball clubs. Ursinus did fall to a couple mid-majors this year, but has shown a lot of growth when faced with challenging OOC opponents. They needed young guys to step up and Sweitzer has delivered for them. Haverford let things get out of hand last weekend against Gettysburg who dominated the game whistle to whistle. They will need to get back in their offensive flow and gets points from their midfield. The goalie play will undoubtably be there. These teams have an underrated rivalry, as their games can get chippy and are always close. I think Haverford's offense has more weapons this year and I question the Ursinus coaching heavily. Give me Haverford moneyline and I'll take the points too. Fords 15-10.
Gettysburg (-1.5) @ SwarthmoreRoyal Farms® Game of the Week
This matchup has provided instant classics as of late. Swat has won 3 straight against the Bullets, who always seem to be foiled by Gress's witchcraft. I think these teams are very even in talent level, with Swat having more offensive flair and Gettysburg having some lumberjacks down low. The strength coach out in Gettysburg certainly has the hook up on some backdoor anabolics from Tijuana. This game is going to be close, Swarthmore is going to put the ball in Strauch's stick at the end of the game. I think this Gettysburg team benefits from maybe being a bit under the radar this year (sounds crazy with them being the #9 ranked team in the country). Swarthmore will cover the 1.5 since this game is destined for overtime, but I think Gettysburg gets the better of the Garnet this time. 14-13 Bullets.
McDaniel @ Muhlenberg (-8.5)
People forget that this was a close one last year. The Mules are worse this year and McDaniel is better. The Green Terror got picked apart in their first 3 conference games, but i like the way they match up with Muhlenberg. Fritz is having an impressive CC-HM level season, but their defensive has folded in conference. Muhlenberg is playing with some moxie and has their eyes set on that 5 seed. I would love to say this one will be close, but it won't be. Barring a history performance from Lorber in cage, the Mules will roll into Week 4 at 2-1. I'm staying away from the spread here, given what happened last year. Mules 16-8
This is one of the best posts of all time for the CC thread. Can you please do this once a week? Hilarious yet accurate. Except Gettysburg is going to smash Swat - they win by 5+
SixBySix wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:18 pm
I can't say that I've ever seen a Top 10 team lose 24/26 face offs.
Big win for the Garnet, still likely need another W over Gettysburg or Dickinson (and no slip ups) to be comfortably in the mix for Pool C.
Swat deserves some more respect at this point but the proof is Dickinson. Keys to this win past the faceoffs were 9 goal scorers and some stellar team offense. Looks like Halstead is back and that made a difference. Maybe as much psychological. Downside has to be turnovers. They have half of those turnovers and it’s a 7 point goal diff.
SixBySix wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:18 pm
I can't say that I've ever seen a Top 10 team lose 24/26 face offs.
Big win for the Garnet, still likely need another W over Gettysburg or Dickinson (and no slip ups) to be comfortably in the mix for Pool C.
Swat deserves some more respect at this point
Honestly, I'm not sure if they've really shown more than the ~15th range most polls have them at. One good win, one good loss, and 7 games you really expect a ranked team to win. The lack of Regionally Ranked opponents is really going to hurt them if they miss the AQ; could really use Vassar to make a run to the #6 or #7 spot in Region II.
I bet they move up two on all three polls. Not a top 10 unless they take the next two. The team showed up today with almost its full potential outside the turnovers. Encouraging. Hopeful the collapse of the NESCAC this year bodes well for some including Swat.
Dickinson vs Washington- Washington fumbled away an halftime lead vs Muhlenberg last week. The offense is scoring goals but musical goalies dosent seem to be the most effective way of doing things. Dickinson has a scare last week vs St. Marys. They will be focused. Devils 14-8
Musical goalies apparenntly worked for wartmore taking down my bullets today. Goalie looks and plays so unathletic but made an unreal amount of saves. How do these nerds keep beating gettysburg
GoTerriers8 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:34 pm
Dickinson vs Washington- Washington fumbled away an halftime lead vs Muhlenberg last week. The offense is scoring goals but musical goalies dosent seem to be the most effective way of doing things. Dickinson has a scare last week vs St. Marys. They will be focused. Devils 14-8
Musical goalies apparenntly worked for wartmore taking down my bullets today. Goalie looks and plays so unathletic but made an unreal amount of saves. How do these nerds keep beating gettysburg
Crazy to say that goalie plays “unathletic” when he made more than a few acrobatic saves. Say what you want, but that kid stood on his head and is an athlete. Blaze Riordan might want a word with you
Gettysburg fogo 2/26. Absolutely embarrassing performance. Take out a few lucky rebounds for Gettysburg and this game was a blowout. Excited to see the changing of the guard next week as the Red Devils come to town.
Bigdoinks wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:54 pm
Gettysburg fogo 2/26. Absolutely embarrassing performance. Take out a few lucky rebounds for Gettysburg and this game was a blowout. Excited to see the changing of the guard next week as the Red Devils come to town.
Gotta be a F&M / Lancaster guy with that handle. IYKYK
