Sensible Gun Safety

[Typical Lax Dad]

Wonder why? https://ksenam.com/developing-story-irs ... gun-store/

Wonder why you posted it….? Just putting it out there….

uh.....it's a forum, to discuss topics, in a thread about guns and safety, and is a current event about such. Maybe you already knew about this while talking to a friend, just last week.

I have a pretty wide circle. You would be surprised at who I actually saw and talked to today…..actually a USNA grad that you know. An older guy….and this certain someone said….. “I was just talking about you to someone last week”….

Did you wish him Happy Birthday?

Don’t know if it is his Birthday. I had last seen him face to face during the fall of 2011….we share a close mutual friend….It’s a small world. I am friendly and I am not afraid to talk to people. One guy I met last Spring played Summer baseball with one of my high school teammates that played football at The Ohio State University before having a long NFL career.

[cradleandshoot]

Wonder why? https://ksenam.com/developing-story-irs ... gun-store/

Wonder why you posted it….? Just putting it out there….

uh.....it's a forum, to discuss topics, in a thread about guns and safety, and is a current event about such. Maybe you already knew about this while talking to a friend, just last week.

I have zero issue with you posting it, indeed it's interesting that the media source is treating this as if a federal overreach instead of the very high likelihood of criminal activity...by those breaking the law. The ATF makes such raids all the time, and IMO they should be doing so when they have probable cause...and if they suspect that local law enforcement is purposely giving them cover, then you darn sure don't give them forward notice.

But I do think having some sort of view of what you post is important to clarify, especially when the media source appears to be inflammatory. It otherwise gives the pretty understandable impression that you are aligned with your source's take...

If you agree with that take, fine...just say why.

When you state that " appears to be inflammatory" is you stating your opinion. How do you define what appears to be inflammatory when any possible definition is subjective to how a person interprets it?

sorry, perhaps I should have said "right wing slanted and inflammatory"...it's a pretty naked appeal to a particular audience.

My point is that when media coverage has a pretty clear slant, then we would benefit from clarification as to whether the poster agrees or disagrees with that slant, and why.

Else the default assumption would naturally be that the poster agrees.

Would apply to an inflammatory left wing slant as well.

IMO, many of these attacks on the credibility and integrity of federal law enforcement are founded in partisan interests or sheer grift. And I think they're dangerous. Potentially very dangerous. It only takes a handful of nutcases.

My oldest son is a member of federal law enforcement. He knows the drill inside and out. The level of mistrust of federal law enforcement is not justified at officers that are field agents.

Yup, but those are also the guys who go up the ranks.
At all levels, they don't deserve that mistrust.

Doesn't mean that there are no bad field agents, no bad managers, no bad prosecutors, etc.
Just very few overall and they sure as heck don't skew lefty.

Extremely few folks are political appointees and at least historically the appointments have not been highly partisan, much less corruptly so.

When you see career people resign in protest over decisions by political appointees, that does deserve scrutiny, but otherwise expect equal handed justice. It's very rare to see protest resignations...but we did see it multiple times during the Barr tenure as AG. I don't recall it happening with Sessions.

Obviously the rich and powerful have systemic advantages throughout our justice system, but that's a different factor.

My son resigned from the FAM service for just that reason. New management, new rules and brand new chaos in how the service would function from now on. A ton of experienced Air Marshalls chose to go elsewhere to serve. I believe the deal breaker was agents drawing duty for international flights and how difficult it is on young agents with a family. My son is a US Postal Inspector now and loves it.

Did he do international a decade or so ago? Guy I knew growing up who’s got all sorts of issues* got escorted off a plane to NY then-https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/ma ... rk-flight/

* dude is/has bi polar, schizo, was involuntarily committed by govt in first week after getting into foreign service officer program, on third try, for losing it in training and bouncing off walls about 5-6yrs before this happened-no idea what he’s going to do when his parents rumor bc he’s pretty dysfunctional these days.

He was doing international 10 years ago but he few out of Philly.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/22/us/norwa ... index.html

[youthathletics]

Cops suck, probably shoulda sent a social worker: https://twitter.com/kanekoathegreat/sta ... a82I2GssRg

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[NattyBohChamps04]

Cops suck, probably shoulda sent a social worker: https://twitter.com/kanekoathegreat/sta ... a82I2GssRg

+1

Gee, I wonder why he was chatting with that particular mom/nanny...

So you've got a half chub because a cop happened to be in the exact right place at the right time (because of an unrelated call), and did what he was ideally trained to do. And 8 people still died? INCLUDING 3 G*DD*MN KIDS!!!

You know a whole lot of people get killed because cops get sent out instead of social workers too?

JFC you're so tone deaf. Keep +1ing your own posts though. Great job!

[jhu72]

Cops suck, probably shoulda sent a social worker: https://twitter.com/kanekoathegreat/sta ... a82I2GssRg

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Gee, I wonder why he was chatting with that particular mom/nanny...

So you've got a half chub because a cop happened to be in the exact right place at the right time (because of an unrelated call), and did what he was ideally trained to do. And 8 people still died? INCLUDING 3 G*DD*MN KIDS!!!

You know a whole lot of people get killed because cops get sent out instead of social workers too?

JFC you're so tone deaf. Keep +1ing your own posts though. Great job!

He did his job. Now if we could just get the rest of them to do the jobs they are paid to do. We should start in Uvalde.

[youthathletics]

Cops suck, probably shoulda sent a social worker: https://twitter.com/kanekoathegreat/sta ... a82I2GssRg

+1

Gee, I wonder why he was chatting with that particular mom/nanny...

So you've got a half chub because a cop happened to be in the exact right place at the right time (because of an unrelated call), and did what he was ideally trained to do. And 8 people still died? INCLUDING 3 G*DD*MN KIDS!!!

You know a whole lot of people get killed because cops get sent out instead of social workers too?

JFC you're so tone deaf. Keep +1ing your own posts though. Great job!

[NattyBohChamps04]

Cops suck, probably shoulda sent a social worker: https://twitter.com/kanekoathegreat/sta ... a82I2GssRg

+1

Gee, I wonder why he was chatting with that particular mom/nanny...

So you've got a half chub because a cop happened to be in the exact right place at the right time (because of an unrelated call), and did what he was ideally trained to do. And 8 people still died? INCLUDING 3 G*DD*MN KIDS!!!

You know a whole lot of people get killed because cops get sent out instead of social workers too?

JFC you're so tone deaf. Keep +1ing your own posts though. Great job!

What's funny here?

8 people and 3 kids shot to death by a neo-nazi?

A good guy with a gun in the right place at the right time still results in 8 innocent people being killed?

Or is it funny that you honestly believe people want to send a social worker into an active shooter situation?

Or is it funny that you think you're scoring points by suggesting people honestly want to send a social worker into that situation?

Jesus, it's like talking to a cringey middle schooler who is trying to be edgy.

[JoeMauer89]

Cops suck, probably shoulda sent a social worker: https://twitter.com/kanekoathegreat/sta ... a82I2GssRg

+1

Gee, I wonder why he was chatting with that particular mom/nanny...

So you've got a half chub because a cop happened to be in the exact right place at the right time (because of an unrelated call), and did what he was ideally trained to do. And 8 people still died? INCLUDING 3 G*DD*MN KIDS!!!

You know a whole lot of people get killed because cops get sent out instead of social workers too?

JFC you're so tone deaf. Keep +1ing your own posts though. Great job!

He's laughing at the last sentence, the personal attack you laid down on him. Can you not tell that? I'd like to think you can, but choose not to for the sake of argument.

Joe

[NattyBohChamps04]

He's laughing at the last sentence, the personal attack you laid down on him. Can you not tell that? I'd like to think you can, but choose not to for the sake of argument.

Joe

Welcome back! The man can speak for himself. Anything to add to the actual points and topic, or just discussing posters again?

[youthathletics]

Insane day here in PG County, MD: https://twitter.com/DKaplanFox5DC/statu ... 02254?s=20

https://twitter.com/PGPDNews/status/167 ... 87584?s=20

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://apple.news/Aljhhaz7YSOO1QiUR4yWTHw

Happy Independence Day

[Typical Lax Dad]

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Happy Independence Day!!

[SCLaxAttack]

Gilgo Beach murderer had >200 firearms in his house. How many guns (assuming they were all legally registered) are enough for one individual to own?

[RedFromMI]

Gilgo Beach murderer had >200 firearms in his house. How many guns (assuming they were all legally registered) are enough for one individual to own?

Article I read said something like 90 were registered with the state. Gun storage quite well hidden as well.

[DMac]

Gotta love this guy. Lotta truth there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaGro8IiDIA

[jhu72]

Gotta love this guy. Lotta truth there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaGro8IiDIA

... the point the fellow makes is not new but is a real good argument. If it were the winning argument however, we would not still be having a debate in this country. I think he got some of his facts wrong, but not really relevant to his main point.

[DMac]

Nope, nothing new but it is the reason you will never get rid of guns in this country. Pass all the laws you want but very little will change. What I liked most about the video was how he stood up and delivered the message to some people who need to hear it put that way, otherwise they'd all be sitting around protecting their phony baloney jobs with flowery worded solutions that don't do jack in reality. Harumph, harumph.
You gotta love Mel Brooks...just the best.

[cradleandshoot]

Gotta love this guy. Lotta truth there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaGro8IiDIA

... the point the fellow makes is not new but is a real good argument. If it were the winning argument however, we would not still be having a debate in this country. I think he got some of his facts wrong, but not really relevant to his main point.

He was dead wrong in his AR-15 analysis. He was comparing the round to a 22 pea shooter. The round is a 5.56 high velocity bullet designed to kill out to 300 meters. I'm surprised he didn't seem to understand that fact. The AR-15 is the civilian version of the M16 family of rifles. This man seemed to be unaware of that fact.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/08/us/chica ... index.html