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For George vs. villanova I see the following categories:

Saves
Goals against
SF — shots faced?
S% —save percentage

So missed shots not relevant?

Still don’t see category for a “save” where the goalie doesn’t retain possession.
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PizzaSnake wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:42 pm
JHU69 wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:36 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:13 pm
rolldodge wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:40 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:24 pm
laxreference wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:58 am
UVAlaxfan wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:49 am
laxreference wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:41 pm
nms wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:05 pm If I am reading it correctly, Kirst is #1 in production and #3 in efficiency,
while Cormier is about #9 in production and #1 in efficiency

I don't believe that the quadrants in this particular graph do anything more than serve as visual aids.
Correct on all 3 counts
how is expected goals added computed?
How EGA is calculated

The core of EGA is that every type of play has a value in terms of how often it leads to a goal for your team vs the other team. Picking up a GB has a positive EGA value. Committing a turnover has a negative. Taking a shot that is saved is worse for your EGA than a shot that is missed. Assisted goals split credit between the assister and scorer. The article above explains it in more detail.

How Usage Adjusted EGA differs from EGA



uaEGA basically takes your EGA production and adjusts it based on how much you show up in the box score so that you have something akin to production-per-touch.
Why? While a saved shot (shot on goal) could in theory have resulted in a score, a missed shot (not on goal) will never result in a score.
Because it’s a turnover.
Not necessarily. Closest to ball…
A saved shot is a turnover!!!
So “saved” means stopped shot with residual possession? Is there a stat for shots stopped without residual possession? What’s that called?
Good point! A save is a shot on goal prevented from scoring. If retained by the gk, it's a turnover. Otherwise it's in play.
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Here is how the LaxElo Bracketology model sees the MLAX bubble. Welcome Cornell and GTown to Lock Status.

To stave off some apoplexy from CP, the Terps made the field in 1,999 out of 2,000 simulations. Not quite a lock, but as close as you can possibly get.

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Why on earth do you use LaxElo? It's not a stat that the committee pays any attention to (or has even heard of), and correlates poorly with stats that the committee does pay attention to.
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CU77 wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:07 pm Why on earth do you use LaxElo? It's not a stat that the committee pays any attention to (or has even heard of), and correlates poorly with stats that the committee does pay attention to.
I don't. LaxElo runs the simulations. RPI and SOR are used to make the bubble projections.
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Tuesday means Top EGA performances of the week that was. Here's the 10 best statistical performances of the past 7 days in DI MLAX.

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Playoff lacrosse is here and Luke Wierman is currently the highest-rated faceoff specialists in all of DI MLAX.

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Interesting that Petrakis is ranked #8, and It seems that Cascadden has been equally as good as Petrakis has been and even Psyllos has been great but i like when Psyllos is on a wing.

Great to have these 3 so that 1 doesn't get worn down.

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Time for the annual question: If you could wave a magic wand and change one thing about LacrosseReference, what would it be?
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Mid in more innuendo, supposition and heuristics!

Kidding.

If there was a way to adjust for personnel on the field and also for home/away statistic keeping those would be interesting.

For example some schools in the NEC, now MAAC, give away GBs and CTOs like candy to their guys and opposite for opponents it’s quite clear. My squad is stingy with the home team at home conversely!
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Break down man up/down statistics by time of penalties to see differences, if any, between 30/60/60+ second penalty scoring rates. My working assumption would be there's a statistically significant difference between 30 & 60 second penalties, but the only stats I see are overall numbers.
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laxreference wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:52 am Time for the annual question: If you could wave a magic wand and change one thing about LacrosseReference, what would it be?
Face offs that result in possessions.
6 v 6 possessions and their efficiency
Transition possessions and their efficiency
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I'd like for Laxreference to realize how much we all appreciate the hard work.
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fsclax wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 7:10 pm I'd like for Laxreference to realize how much we all appreciate the hard work.
He will when those paid subs increase
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the request above to look at FOs that result in possessions. I thought a FO win required possession? Now perhaps one wants to consider possession in the offensive end....but whoever won the FO has possession BY DEFINITION. No?
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whaley wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:12 am the request above to look at FOs that result in possessions. I thought a FO win required possession? Now perhaps one wants to consider possession in the offensive end....but whoever won the FO has possession BY DEFINITION. No?
To clarify, I meant that result in an offensive possession. If you dont win the clear, you have not won anything. I believe Donowski said something to the effect of "The faceoff is 3 parts, the clamp, GB, and the clear. You only need to win the last one"

Faceoff win percentage in its current form is a bit misleading or incomplete. Its better as an individual stat, but it does not tell you what you really want to know.
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coda wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:58 am
whaley wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:12 am the request above to look at FOs that result in possessions. I thought a FO win required possession? Now perhaps one wants to consider possession in the offensive end....but whoever won the FO has possession BY DEFINITION. No?
To clarify, I meant that result in an offensive possession. If you dont win the clear, you have not won anything. I believe Donowski said something to the effect of "The faceoff is 3 parts, the clamp, GB, and the clear. You only need to win the last one"

Faceoff win percentage in its current form is a bit misleading or incomplete. Its better as an individual stat, but it does not tell you what you really want to know.
Yes Hobart has been king of FO win then lose the all as wings get outflanked for years. And Coach R is a former LSM himself
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:53 pm
coda wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:58 am
whaley wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:12 am the request above to look at FOs that result in possessions. I thought a FO win required possession? Now perhaps one wants to consider possession in the offensive end....but whoever won the FO has possession BY DEFINITION. No?
To clarify, I meant that result in an offensive possession. If you dont win the clear, you have not won anything. I believe Donowski said something to the effect of "The faceoff is 3 parts, the clamp, GB, and the clear. You only need to win the last one"

Faceoff win percentage in its current form is a bit misleading or incomplete. Its better as an individual stat, but it does not tell you what you really want to know.
Yes Hobart has been king of FO win then lose the all as wings get outflanked for years. And Coach R is a former LSM himself
Most overlooked coaching/strategy in the game. Frustrates me to no end when players just go out there, get smoked off the wing, drop in on defense while their guy snags an easy gb, ego driven F/O guys refusing to tie the guy up, having their first step off the wing done correctly, etc.
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youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:04 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 1:53 pm
coda wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:58 am
whaley wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:12 am the request above to look at FOs that result in possessions. I thought a FO win required possession? Now perhaps one wants to consider possession in the offensive end....but whoever won the FO has possession BY DEFINITION. No?
To clarify, I meant that result in an offensive possession. If you dont win the clear, you have not won anything. I believe Donowski said something to the effect of "The faceoff is 3 parts, the clamp, GB, and the clear. You only need to win the last one"

Faceoff win percentage in its current form is a bit misleading or incomplete. Its better as an individual stat, but it does not tell you what you really want to know.
Yes Hobart has been king of FO win then lose the all as wings get outflanked for years. And Coach R is a former LSM himself
Most overlooked coaching/strategy in the game. Frustrates me to no end when players just go out there, get smoked off the wing, drop in on defense while their guy snags an easy gb, ego driven F/O guys refusing to tie the guy up, having their first step off the wing done correctly, etc.
One of my favorite strategies vs a top end FOGO is the 10 man ride. You need to have an athletic FOGO or LSM on the X, cant let him win forward. Like all 10 man's, the key is knowing when to drop out. I watched it work this year and it is a thing of beauty. Lot of FOGOs are not ready for that kind of pressure.
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