Syracuse

[wlaxphan20]

According to the experts, women are more susceptible to ACL injuries (Ward's was toe injury) though. Of course, I have no idea what's going on with these injuries but again, I find it hard to imagine that all the other programs are doing preventative ACL injury exercises/routines/practices and Cuse is not. I suspect they're all doing about the same. I'm starting with the turf/turf cleat combination.

There are so many moving parts to this it would be nearly impossible to isolate one factor, and I doubt there is just one single factor responsible for this.

[njfanlax]

According to the experts, women are more susceptible to ACL injuries (Ward's was toe injury) though. Of course, I have no idea what's going on with these injuries but again, I find it hard to imagine that all the other programs are doing preventative ACL injury exercises/routines/practices and Cuse is not. I suspect they're all doing about the same. I'm starting with the turf/turf cleat combination.

Ketch made a good point about the Syracuse men's lax team. They use the same facilities and have a similar practice schedule that is in the same season as the women. Don't they also wear the same footwear as the women, since lax gear is now unisex?

Are there any college teams that practice or play on grass?

[wlaxphan20]

According to the experts, women are more susceptible to ACL injuries (Ward's was toe injury) though. Of course, I have no idea what's going on with these injuries but again, I find it hard to imagine that all the other programs are doing preventative ACL injury exercises/routines/practices and Cuse is not. I suspect they're all doing about the same. I'm starting with the turf/turf cleat combination.

Ketch made a good point about the Syracuse men's lax team. They use the same facilities and have a similar practice schedule that is in the same season as the women. Don't they also wear the same footwear as the women, since lax gear is now unisex?

Are there any college teams that practice or play on grass?

Many teams further south play on grass, UVA, Duke, UNC, Florida, etc. Most of them probably practice on both turf and grass, depending on what surface their upcoming games are on. Less sure about what surfaces are played on in fall ball, though

I really don’t think this can be chalked up to just a surface problem. It’s probably a combination of a few factors

[Idontknowtherules]

Actually cockerille tore hers at northwestern. I was just corrected

[Seacoaster(1)]

According to the experts, women are more susceptible to ACL injuries (Ward's was toe injury) though. Of course, I have no idea what's going on with these injuries but again, I find it hard to imagine that all the other programs are doing preventative ACL injury exercises/routines/practices and Cuse is not. I suspect they're all doing about the same. I'm starting with the turf/turf cleat combination.

Ketch made a good point about the Syracuse men's lax team. They use the same facilities and have a similar practice schedule that is in the same season as the women. Don't they also wear the same footwear as the women, since lax gear is now unisex?

Are there any college teams that practice or play on grass?

As you know, ACLs tend to be a point of inequality:

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/sport ... ty%2C%20Dr.

[njfanlax]

According to the experts, women are more susceptible to ACL injuries (Ward's was toe injury) though. Of course, I have no idea what's going on with these injuries but again, I find it hard to imagine that all the other programs are doing preventative ACL injury exercises/routines/practices and Cuse is not. I suspect they're all doing about the same. I'm starting with the turf/turf cleat combination.

Ketch made a good point about the Syracuse men's lax team. They use the same facilities and have a similar practice schedule that is in the same season as the women. Don't they also wear the same footwear as the women, since lax gear is now unisex?

Are there any college teams that practice or play on grass?

Many teams further south play on grass, UVA, Duke, UNC, Florida, etc. Most of them probably practice on both turf and grass, depending on what surface their upcoming games are on. Less sure about what surfaces are played on in fall ball, though

I really don’t think this can be chalked up to just a surface problem. It’s probably a combination of a few factors

I agree with you that the etiology is probably multifactorial. But everyone is just guessing because no one has any real idea why this is happening. This problem seems to be getting worse. The generated hypotheses are usually related to gender differences and environmental factors. There are so many college (not to mention HS) lacrosse teams throughout the country with many programs fielding both men's and women's teams. By examining all of the teams and where/how they practice/play (including the equipment they use), it should be possible to systemically evaluate and specifically determine ACL injury risk factors.

[Madlax59]

According to the experts, women are more susceptible to ACL injuries (Ward's was toe injury) though. Of course, I have no idea what's going on with these injuries but again, I find it hard to imagine that all the other programs are doing preventative ACL injury exercises/routines/practices and Cuse is not. I suspect they're all doing about the same. I'm starting with the turf/turf cleat combination.

Ketch made a good point about the Syracuse men's lax team. They use the same facilities and have a similar practice schedule that is in the same season as the women. Don't they also wear the same footwear as the women, since lax gear is now unisex?

Are there any college teams that practice or play on grass?

Many teams further south play on grass, UVA, Duke, UNC, Florida, etc. Most of them probably practice on both turf and grass, depending on what surface their upcoming games are on. Less sure about what surfaces are played on in fall ball, though

I really don’t think this can be chalked up to just a surface problem. It’s probably a combination of a few factors

I agree with you that the etiology is probably multifactorial. But everyone is just guessing because no one has any real idea why this is happening. This problem seems to be getting worse. The generated hypotheses are usually related to gender differences and environmental factors. There are so many college (not to mention HS) lacrosse teams throughout the country with many programs fielding both men's and women's teams. By examining all of the teams and where/how they practice/play (including the equipment they use), it should be possible to systemically evaluate and specifically determine ACL injury risk factors.

Is there any news on the other casualty at Syracuse Saturday? Emma shetteg (sp) how she’s doing?

[intheknow247]

Mashewske going down is not a good thing, didn't look as if it's a speedy recovery type injury either.
What's that do to this Cuse team?

Well, it’s definitely not good. I believe I said it after the Binghamton game that they should take her out and put in a secondary draw girl for some game experience.
Kate is an excellent draw specialist., but they have won games even when she was losing the draw so I think if they can cause turnovers they’ll be fine

def need girls with experience taking draws for future or god forbid, an injury. unfortunately, now Cuse is stuck with no experience on the draw and Adamson, who will do good job on draw, needs to be on the field for O reps. her taking draws will run her ragged. kt needed to be working on options regardless.

[laxer12]

Mashewske going down is not a good thing, didn't look as if it's a speedy recovery type injury either.
What's that do to this Cuse team?

Well, it’s definitely not good. I believe I said it after the Binghamton game that they should take her out and put in a secondary draw girl for some game experience.
Kate is an excellent draw specialist., but they have won games even when she was losing the draw so I think if they can cause turnovers they’ll be fine

def need girls with experience taking draws for future or god forbid, an injury. unfortunately, now Cuse is stuck with no experience on the draw and Adamson, who will do good job on draw, needs to be on the field for O reps. her taking draws will run her ragged. kt needed to be working on options regardless.

In what way will it run Adamson, "ragged"?? There are innumerable examples of a team's top draw specialist also being an important offensive and/or defensive player for their respective teams. Some players that pop up in my mind are Sam Apuzzo, Taylor Cummings, Marie McCool, Charlotte North... oh, and Kayla Treanor. I don't think Treanor believed that doing the draw controls hindered her ability to perform on the offensive side of the ball.

[Brownlax]

Mashewske going down is not a good thing, didn't look as if it's a speedy recovery type injury either.
What's that do to this Cuse team?

Well, it’s definitely not good. I believe I said it after the Binghamton game that they should take her out and put in a secondary draw girl for some game experience.
Kate is an excellent draw specialist., but they have won games even when she was losing the draw so I think if they can cause turnovers they’ll be fine

def need girls with experience taking draws for future or god forbid, an injury. unfortunately, now Cuse is stuck with no experience on the draw and Adamson, who will do good job on draw, needs to be on the field for O reps. her taking draws will run her ragged. kt needed to be working on options regardless.

In what way will it run Adamson, "ragged"?? There are innumerable examples of a team's top draw specialist also being an important offensive and/or defensive player for their respective teams. Some players that pop up in my mind are Sam Apuzzo, Taylor Cummings, Marie McCool, Charlotte North... oh, and Kayla Treanor. I don't think Treanor believed that doing the draw controls hindered her ability to perform on the offensive side of the ball.

Agreed - I'd also add Ally Mastroianni from UNC to that group above.

[intheknow247]

Mashewske going down is not a good thing, didn't look as if it's a speedy recovery type injury either.
What's that do to this Cuse team?

Well, it’s definitely not good. I believe I said it after the Binghamton game that they should take her out and put in a secondary draw girl for some game experience.
Kate is an excellent draw specialist., but they have won games even when she was losing the draw so I think if they can cause turnovers they’ll be fine

def need girls with experience taking draws for future or god forbid, an injury. unfortunately, now Cuse is stuck with no experience on the draw and Adamson, who will do good job on draw, needs to be on the field for O reps. her taking draws will run her ragged. kt needed to be working on options regardless.

In what way will it run Adamson, "ragged"?? There are innumerable examples of a team's top draw specialist also being an important offensive and/or defensive player for their respective teams. Some players that pop up in my mind are Sam Apuzzo, Taylor Cummings, Marie McCool, Charlotte North... oh, and Kayla Treanor. I don't think Treanor believed that doing the draw controls hindered her ability to perform on the offensive side of the ball.

Apuzzo played attack only and didn't have to sub off, same with North and Treanor (work load much different). Cummings and McCool are unreal athletes. If you think Adamson is in that same athletic category I would get your eyes checked. So yes, she will be dead tired if she has to carry that load.

Treanor had Adamson running to box as well to switch sticks rather than doing it with a defender already on the field. None of the afore mentioned players would switch off through the box (if they switched it was with a defender on the field - North did this religiously).

[laxer12]

Mashewske going down is not a good thing, didn't look as if it's a speedy recovery type injury either.
What's that do to this Cuse team?

Well, it’s definitely not good. I believe I said it after the Binghamton game that they should take her out and put in a secondary draw girl for some game experience.
Kate is an excellent draw specialist., but they have won games even when she was losing the draw so I think if they can cause turnovers they’ll be fine

def need girls with experience taking draws for future or god forbid, an injury. unfortunately, now Cuse is stuck with no experience on the draw and Adamson, who will do good job on draw, needs to be on the field for O reps. her taking draws will run her ragged. kt needed to be working on options regardless.

In what way will it run Adamson, "ragged"?? There are innumerable examples of a team's top draw specialist also being an important offensive and/or defensive player for their respective teams. Some players that pop up in my mind are Sam Apuzzo, Taylor Cummings, Marie McCool, Charlotte North... oh, and Kayla Treanor. I don't think Treanor believed that doing the draw controls hindered her ability to perform on the offensive side of the ball.

Apuzzo played attack only and didn't have to sub off, same with North and Treanor (work load much different). Cummings and McCool are unreal athletes. If you think Adamson is in that same athletic category I would get your eyes checked. So yes, she will be dead tired if she has to carry that load.

Treanor had Adamson running to box as well to switch sticks rather than doing it with a defender already on the field. None of the afore mentioned players would switch off through the box (if they switched it was with a defender on the field - North did this religiously).

Well, as I'm sure you know, Adamson also plays attack only. I'm sure Treanor would make the adjustment to have a defender switch sticks with Adamson after SU wins a draw control, if she were to stay on the field (she normally does) for that offensive possession. But yeah, way to insult Olivia Adamson's athletic ability -- that was big of you.

[Ketch]

you can chalk it up to random chance..but when there is such a clear trend of severe injuries like this through multiple years, sorry to say but there is some underlying issue there. Never seen anything like this. The strength and conditioning program, practice schedule, cleats, etc all need to be looked at.

Exactly. That's why if I were a recruit and looking at Syracuse, I might be looking elsewhere. It's happening way too often over there for it to be completely random.

I wouldn't want a recruit who thought that way on my team anyway.

[ultravisitor]

you can chalk it up to random chance..but when there is such a clear trend of severe injuries like this through multiple years, sorry to say but there is some underlying issue there. Never seen anything like this. The strength and conditioning program, practice schedule, cleats, etc all need to be looked at.

Exactly. That's why if I were a recruit and looking at Syracuse, I might be looking elsewhere. It's happening way too often over there for it to be completely random.

I wouldn't want a recruit who thought that way on my team anyway.

I wouldn't want to be teammates with or play for someone who took offense to my wanting to be careful about protecting my body. The health of my body is ultimately more important than a team sport.

[intheknow247]

Mashewske going down is not a good thing, didn't look as if it's a speedy recovery type injury either.
What's that do to this Cuse team?

Well, it’s definitely not good. I believe I said it after the Binghamton game that they should take her out and put in a secondary draw girl for some game experience.
Kate is an excellent draw specialist., but they have won games even when she was losing the draw so I think if they can cause turnovers they’ll be fine

def need girls with experience taking draws for future or god forbid, an injury. unfortunately, now Cuse is stuck with no experience on the draw and Adamson, who will do good job on draw, needs to be on the field for O reps. her taking draws will run her ragged. kt needed to be working on options regardless.

In what way will it run Adamson, "ragged"?? There are innumerable examples of a team's top draw specialist also being an important offensive and/or defensive player for their respective teams. Some players that pop up in my mind are Sam Apuzzo, Taylor Cummings, Marie McCool, Charlotte North... oh, and Kayla Treanor. I don't think Treanor believed that doing the draw controls hindered her ability to perform on the offensive side of the ball.

Apuzzo played attack only and didn't have to sub off, same with North and Treanor (work load much different). Cummings and McCool are unreal athletes. If you think Adamson is in that same athletic category I would get your eyes checked. So yes, she will be dead tired if she has to carry that load.

Treanor had Adamson running to box as well to switch sticks rather than doing it with a defender already on the field. None of the afore mentioned players would switch off through the box (if they switched it was with a defender on the field - North did this religiously).

Well, as I'm sure you know, Adamson also plays attack only. I'm sure Treanor would make the adjustment to have a defender switch sticks with Adamson after SU wins a draw control, if she were to stay on the field (she normally does) for that offensive possession. But yeah, way to insult Olivia Adamson's athletic ability -- that was big of you.

No insult to Adamson, she is a fine athlete - just not Cummings or North. And she plays midfield, not attack. She is one of the kids that plays O only so when Cuse looses the ball on O, she is sprinting to the box to get a D mid sub on. And when she took several draws after Mashewske injury, she had draw stick in hand and her reg stick was awaiting for her to switch over at the box (ND draw taker does same thing). but you knew that already...........thats what I love about you, your attention to detail!

[Madlax59]

Mashewske going down is not a good thing, didn't look as if it's a speedy recovery type injury either.
What's that do to this Cuse team?

Well, it’s definitely not good. I believe I said it after the Binghamton game that they should take her out and put in a secondary draw girl for some game experience.
Kate is an excellent draw specialist., but they have won games even when she was losing the draw so I think if they can cause turnovers they’ll be fine

def need girls with experience taking draws for future or god forbid, an injury. unfortunately, now Cuse is stuck with no experience on the draw and Adamson, who will do good job on draw, needs to be on the field for O reps. her taking draws will run her ragged. kt needed to be working on options regardless.

In what way will it run Adamson, "ragged"?? There are innumerable examples of a team's top draw specialist also being an important offensive and/or defensive player for their respective teams. Some players that pop up in my mind are Sam Apuzzo, Taylor Cummings, Marie McCool, Charlotte North... oh, and Kayla Treanor. I don't think Treanor believed that doing the draw controls hindered her ability to perform on the offensive side of the ball.

Agreed - I'd also add Ally Mastroianni from UNC to that group above.

Yes but Mastro also shared draw with Cool, Aldave, etc. UNC has always had several people alternating on draw. In fact it could be said having multiple draw options helped UNC win the semi against NU as Aldave made some key draws.

[@inthe8m]

Mashewske going down is not a good thing, didn't look as if it's a speedy recovery type injury either.
What's that do to this Cuse team?

Well, it’s definitely not good. I believe I said it after the Binghamton game that they should take her out and put in a secondary draw girl for some game experience.
Kate is an excellent draw specialist., but they have won games even when she was losing the draw so I think if they can cause turnovers they’ll be fine

def need girls with experience taking draws for future or god forbid, an injury. unfortunately, now Cuse is stuck with no experience on the draw and Adamson, who will do good job on draw, needs to be on the field for O reps. her taking draws will run her ragged. kt needed to be working on options regardless.

In what way will it run Adamson, "ragged"?? There are innumerable examples of a team's top draw specialist also being an important offensive and/or defensive player for their respective teams. Some players that pop up in my mind are Sam Apuzzo, Taylor Cummings, Marie McCool, Charlotte North... oh, and Kayla Treanor. I don't think Treanor believed that doing the draw controls hindered her ability to perform on the offensive side of the ball.

Apuzzo played attack only and didn't have to sub off, same with North and Treanor (work load much different). Cummings and McCool are unreal athletes. If you think Adamson is in that same athletic category I would get your eyes checked. So yes, she will be dead tired if she has to carry that load.

Treanor had Adamson running to box as well to switch sticks rather than doing it with a defender already on the field. None of the afore mentioned players would switch off through the box (if they switched it was with a defender on the field - North did this religiously).

Well, as I'm sure you know, Adamson also plays attack only. I'm sure Treanor would make the adjustment to have a defender switch sticks with Adamson after SU wins a draw control, if she were to stay on the field (she normally does) for that offensive possession. But yeah, way to insult Olivia Adamson's athletic ability -- that was big of you.

No insult to Adamson, she is a fine athlete - just not Cummings or North. And she plays midfield, not attack. She is one of the kids that plays O only so when Cuse looses the ball on O, she is sprinting to the box to get a D mid sub on. And when she took several draws after Mashewske injury, she had draw stick in hand and her reg stick was awaiting for her to switch over at the box (ND draw taker does same thing). but you knew that already...........thats what I love about you, your attention to detail!

Adamson is 100% an attack player. Syracuse plays 5 D on defense and 5 A on offense with two middies staying on the field - so the extra D and extra A just switch up on change of possession.

[intheknow247]

Mashewske going down is not a good thing, didn't look as if it's a speedy recovery type injury either.
What's that do to this Cuse team?

Well, it’s definitely not good. I believe I said it after the Binghamton game that they should take her out and put in a secondary draw girl for some game experience.
Kate is an excellent draw specialist., but they have won games even when she was losing the draw so I think if they can cause turnovers they’ll be fine

def need girls with experience taking draws for future or god forbid, an injury. unfortunately, now Cuse is stuck with no experience on the draw and Adamson, who will do good job on draw, needs to be on the field for O reps. her taking draws will run her ragged. kt needed to be working on options regardless.

In what way will it run Adamson, "ragged"?? There are innumerable examples of a team's top draw specialist also being an important offensive and/or defensive player for their respective teams. Some players that pop up in my mind are Sam Apuzzo, Taylor Cummings, Marie McCool, Charlotte North... oh, and Kayla Treanor. I don't think Treanor believed that doing the draw controls hindered her ability to perform on the offensive side of the ball.

Apuzzo played attack only and didn't have to sub off, same with North and Treanor (work load much different). Cummings and McCool are unreal athletes. If you think Adamson is in that same athletic category I would get your eyes checked. So yes, she will be dead tired if she has to carry that load.

Treanor had Adamson running to box as well to switch sticks rather than doing it with a defender already on the field. None of the afore mentioned players would switch off through the box (if they switched it was with a defender on the field - North did this religiously).

Well, as I'm sure you know, Adamson also plays attack only. I'm sure Treanor would make the adjustment to have a defender switch sticks with Adamson after SU wins a draw control, if she were to stay on the field (she normally does) for that offensive possession. But yeah, way to insult Olivia Adamson's athletic ability -- that was big of you.

No insult to Adamson, she is a fine athlete - just not Cummings or North. And she plays midfield, not attack. She is one of the kids that plays O only so when Cuse looses the ball on O, she is sprinting to the box to get a D mid sub on. And when she took several draws after Mashewske injury, she had draw stick in hand and her reg stick was awaiting for her to switch over at the box (ND draw taker does same thing). but you knew that already...........thats what I love about you, your attention to detail!

Adamson is 100% an attack player. Syracuse plays 5 D on defense and 5 A on offense with two middies staying on the field - so the extra D and extra A just switch up on change of possession.

correct - but since she is inserted as the O mid, she has to get on and off the field which is much different than staying on as an attacker.

[@inthe8m]

Mashewske going down is not a good thing, didn't look as if it's a speedy recovery type injury either.
What's that do to this Cuse team?

Well, it’s definitely not good. I believe I said it after the Binghamton game that they should take her out and put in a secondary draw girl for some game experience.
Kate is an excellent draw specialist., but they have won games even when she was losing the draw so I think if they can cause turnovers they’ll be fine

def need girls with experience taking draws for future or god forbid, an injury. unfortunately, now Cuse is stuck with no experience on the draw and Adamson, who will do good job on draw, needs to be on the field for O reps. her taking draws will run her ragged. kt needed to be working on options regardless.

In what way will it run Adamson, "ragged"?? There are innumerable examples of a team's top draw specialist also being an important offensive and/or defensive player for their respective teams. Some players that pop up in my mind are Sam Apuzzo, Taylor Cummings, Marie McCool, Charlotte North... oh, and Kayla Treanor. I don't think Treanor believed that doing the draw controls hindered her ability to perform on the offensive side of the ball.

Apuzzo played attack only and didn't have to sub off, same with North and Treanor (work load much different). Cummings and McCool are unreal athletes. If you think Adamson is in that same athletic category I would get your eyes checked. So yes, she will be dead tired if she has to carry that load.

Treanor had Adamson running to box as well to switch sticks rather than doing it with a defender already on the field. None of the afore mentioned players would switch off through the box (if they switched it was with a defender on the field - North did this religiously).

Well, as I'm sure you know, Adamson also plays attack only. I'm sure Treanor would make the adjustment to have a defender switch sticks with Adamson after SU wins a draw control, if she were to stay on the field (she normally does) for that offensive possession. But yeah, way to insult Olivia Adamson's athletic ability -- that was big of you.

No insult to Adamson, she is a fine athlete - just not Cummings or North. And she plays midfield, not attack. She is one of the kids that plays O only so when Cuse looses the ball on O, she is sprinting to the box to get a D mid sub on. And when she took several draws after Mashewske injury, she had draw stick in hand and her reg stick was awaiting for her to switch over at the box (ND draw taker does same thing). but you knew that already...........thats what I love about you, your attention to detail!

Adamson is 100% an attack player. Syracuse plays 5 D on defense and 5 A on offense with two middies staying on the field - so the extra D and extra A just switch up on change of possession.

correct - but since she is inserted as the O mid, she has to get on and off the field which is much different than staying on as an attacker.

She is an attack player and is playing an attack position. Your mistake is you are using terminology from men's lacrosse that simply does not apply and is not used in women's lacrosse.

[laxer12]

Mashewske going down is not a good thing, didn't look as if it's a speedy recovery type injury either.
What's that do to this Cuse team?

Well, it’s definitely not good. I believe I said it after the Binghamton game that they should take her out and put in a secondary draw girl for some game experience.
Kate is an excellent draw specialist., but they have won games even when she was losing the draw so I think if they can cause turnovers they’ll be fine

def need girls with experience taking draws for future or god forbid, an injury. unfortunately, now Cuse is stuck with no experience on the draw and Adamson, who will do good job on draw, needs to be on the field for O reps. her taking draws will run her ragged. kt needed to be working on options regardless.

In what way will it run Adamson, "ragged"?? There are innumerable examples of a team's top draw specialist also being an important offensive and/or defensive player for their respective teams. Some players that pop up in my mind are Sam Apuzzo, Taylor Cummings, Marie McCool, Charlotte North... oh, and Kayla Treanor. I don't think Treanor believed that doing the draw controls hindered her ability to perform on the offensive side of the ball.

Apuzzo played attack only and didn't have to sub off, same with North and Treanor (work load much different). Cummings and McCool are unreal athletes. If you think Adamson is in that same athletic category I would get your eyes checked. So yes, she will be dead tired if she has to carry that load.

Treanor had Adamson running to box as well to switch sticks rather than doing it with a defender already on the field. None of the afore mentioned players would switch off through the box (if they switched it was with a defender on the field - North did this religiously).

Well, as I'm sure you know, Adamson also plays attack only. I'm sure Treanor would make the adjustment to have a defender switch sticks with Adamson after SU wins a draw control, if she were to stay on the field (she normally does) for that offensive possession. But yeah, way to insult Olivia Adamson's athletic ability -- that was big of you.

No insult to Adamson, she is a fine athlete - just not Cummings or North. And she plays midfield, not attack. She is one of the kids that plays O only so when Cuse looses the ball on O, she is sprinting to the box to get a D mid sub on. And when she took several draws after Mashewske injury, she had draw stick in hand and her reg stick was awaiting for her to switch over at the box (ND draw taker does same thing). but you knew that already...........thats what I love about you, your attention to detail!

Adamson is 100% an attack player. Syracuse plays 5 D on defense and 5 A on offense with two middies staying on the field - so the extra D and extra A just switch up on change of possession.

correct - but since she is inserted as the O mid, she has to get on and off the field which is much different than staying on as an attacker.

She is an attack player and is playing an attack position. Your mistake is you are using terminology from men's lacrosse that simply does not apply and is not used in women's lacrosse.

Thank you! Finally someone that knows what they're talking about.