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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:51 pm
Bart wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:36 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:17 am Look, believe what you want.
From the other perspective- I covered Board of Ed meetings for many years for the WaPo in 5 districts including DC. The claims above about public comments being ignored, until someone makes a scene is very often true. More so than not.
I am not a proponent of threatening any public servants, but to label any of these actual parents (not people who are threatening) is just absurd and a heavy handed response trying to silence critics.
People used to get thrown out of BoE meetings all the time.
Admins had intentionally stupid public comment rules just for that purpose. I’ve Seen mics shut off at exactly 60 seconds, commenters get shouted down by board presidents when their time was up. Pretty classless stuff, because the school boards didn’t like dissent.
Overall I’ve never seen an industry based more on the “good idea fairy” instead of actual results. These school board administrators take their workshops in the summer and come back with an idea and changes to implement each year. When their ideas are turds, they don’t want to hear criticism because it makes them actually have to work. They take it too personal and want to shut down criticism. Very common.
More common than anyone here will ever admit, or know.
Interesting. I will say that after 10 years on a local BoE I never saw a person removed from a meeting. It is not in a large city and I stopped being a member prior to all this hub bub but we did have a few "controversial" issues, mostly around budget and cuts.

In NYS you are not guaranteed the right to speak at a BoE meeting. These are "open" meetings where the board conducts business in front of the public and does not have to allow public comment. If public comment is allowed it has to bet open to everyone and can not discriminate who can and can not speak. During most meetings, no one spoke a peep. If there was cause to think there were going to be some public comment then the president would read a list of rules that must be adhered to in order to speak, including but not limited to (I do not remember all) 1)a time limit 2)threatening or intimidating behavior not tolerated 3) no mention of students by name. 4) we would not comment on any staff issues 5) each person had to give their name and address prior to speaking.

For the most part people were passionate but respectful. I had no problem with hearing criticism. I had an issue when the criticism got personal to either a member or the superintendent. Luckily at the time this only happened in a very few instances. I do speak to friends still on the board and know that this is no longer the case and some people have gotten very personal with current members. Right on the edge of threats, which I know I would not have handled well......

I will also note that when, at least in NYS, the DoE gives "guidance" it really is not guidance in the sense that most people would expect. Their guidance tend to be rules and the disconnect happens when parents think that the district actually has a choice in the matter.
Thanks, an interesting perspective as well...and more akin to what I'd heard...from years past.

Somehow, we've gotten this notion that everyone has the right to scream and holler whenever they want to and any insistence on decorum and civility is an abridgment of 1st Amendment rights.

Much of this is indeed akin to the confrontation in restaurants etc of Trump Admin officials and other politicians that was happening, just on a much larger scale and way down into the lower levels of elected public service, grass roots...school BD's for god's sake!

Supported by many of the same people who were decrying the restaurant confrontations...hypocrites.

And that scale and grass roots level is very much on purpose, nationally coordinated, funded and fomented.

We're also seeing way more physical threats against these folks and their families than ever before, even for much higher elected officials. And these folks don't have security...
Bingo.
So how should the male jerkoff first class passenger on an American Airlines flight be punished for punching a female flight attendant in the face breaking her nose for bumping into him as she walked down the aisle (for which she apologized). Transcontinental flight has to emergency land in Denver with the moron duct-taped to his seat by passengers and crew where he is arrested and the FA taken to the hospital.

Hopefully he's till in the slammer in Denver and he should not be allowed to fly on ANY airline (American has already banned him on their flights). Feds should charge him to the max and have him spend a few years in lockup.

Seems that nobody gets any slack from angry people nowadays. Going nuclear appears to be the FIRST step.
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Agree but airline customer service has been atrocious for a long time (not equivocating but they have created a high stress customer environment cultivated over many decades of bankruptcies and bailouts).

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Peter Brown wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:21 am
a fan wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:49 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:31 am All of PeteB et al greatest hits:

The left hate America, and wants to destroy it
People who complain about military policies are terrorists.
Those who don’t wish to be forced to pay an obscene amount of money for life saving drugs and want single payer health care are communists
All BLM are terrorists
Anyone who questions Trump MUST be insane (TDS)
All Dems want open borders...oh, and we have open borders anytime a D is in the White House, and the borders are completely closed when a R is in the White House
Shall I continue? ;)



Let me help you a fan.

1). Yes, the left does hate America; zero hesitation asserting that. They’d happily reduce most Americans to “shared misery” rather than overall excellence.
2). Nope. I myself would prefer that America have zero bases outside the United States. I guess that makes me a military critic too? A leftie, am I?!
3). Nope. I believe in national health care (I also believe in private health care). Am I a leftie?!?
4). Kind of. A large % of the BLM leadership are Marxist’s. Not sure about the terrorist part, but many clearly are not exactly card carrying capitalists…
5). Nope. TLD is real, but I myself criticize Trump, hoping he is gone forever. So, am I a leftie again?!?
6). Yes, many Democrats could not care less if the borders were wide open. They have this incorrect idea that Latinos vote D. They didn’t realize that the lefts odd embrace and prioritization of bizarre lifestyles opposed to the family structure would get a pass by the same Latinos. Unfortunately for Dems, Latinos are noticing and beginning a natural transition away from Democrats. I mean, I don’t know any trans person, and I’m guessing nor do most.

So, you got 2 of 6 correct, 3 absolutely wrong, and one halfway right. That kind of guessing doesn’t cut it in the debate big leagues. :lol:

Try again.
Oh, I know there's a difference between what you say you want, and what you ACTUALLY want.

So yep, you and your team will whine about Big Government.....right before you choose to attend the University of Florida instead of privately owned and operated Loyola College, taking money from your fellow taxpayers, because behind the bluster..... you actually think that Big Government services are pretty cool.

You're acting like you think I should be surprised by your "do as I say, not as I do" attitude toward political issues. ;)

What you and your team wants, are a whole mess of liberal policies enacted by people with a little R by their names. "Because" that little R magically makes liberal policies okay with you.

Oh, and welcome back! ;)
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... story.html

"As Vice President Mike Pence hid from a marauding mob during the Jan. 6 invasion of the Capitol, an attorney for President Donald Trump emailed a top Pence aide to say that Pence had caused the violence by refusing to block certification of Trump’s election loss.

The attorney, John C. Eastman, also continued to press for Pence to act even after Trump’s supporters had trampled through the Capitol — an attack the Pence aide, Greg Jacob, had described as a “siege” in their email exchange.

“The ‘siege’ is because YOU and your boss did not do what was necessary to allow this to be aired in a public way so that the American people can see for themselves what happened,” Eastman wrote to Jacob, referring to Trump’s claims of voter fraud.

Eastman sent the email as Pence, who had been presiding in the Senate, was under guard with Jacob and other advisers in a secure area. Rioters were tearing through the Capitol complex, some of them calling for Pence to be executed.

Jacob, Pence’s chief counsel, included Eastman’s emailed remarks in a draft opinion article about Trump’s outside legal team that he wrote later in January but ultimately chose not to publish. The Washington Post obtained a copy of the draft. Jacob wrote that by sending the email at that moment, Eastman “displayed a shocking lack of awareness of how those practical implications were playing out in real time.”

Read: Pence aide Greg Jacob’s draft opinion article denouncing Trump’s outside lawyers

Jacob’s draft article, Eastman’s emails and accounts of other previously undisclosed actions by Eastman offer new insight into the mind-sets of figures at the center of an episode that pushed American democracy to the brink. They show that Eastman’s efforts to persuade Pence to block Trump’s defeat were more extensive than has been reported previously, and that the Pence team was subjected to what Jacob at the time called “a barrage of bankrupt legal theories.”

Eastman confirmed the emails in interviews with The Post but denied that he was blaming Pence for the violence. He defended his actions, saying that Trump’s team was right to exhaust “every legal means” to challenge a result that it argued was plagued by widespread fraud and irregularities.

“Are you supposed to not do anything about that?” Eastman said.

He stood by legal advice he gave Pence to halt Congress’s certification on Jan. 6 to allow Republican state lawmakers to investigate the unfounded fraud claims, which multiple legal scholars have said Pence was not authorized to do.

Eastman said the email saying Pence’s inaction led to the violence was a response to an email in which Jacob told him that his “bull----” legal advice was why Pence’s team was “under siege,” and that Jacob had later apologized.

A person familiar with the emails said Jacob apologized for using profanity but still maintained that Eastman’s advice was “snake oil.” That person, like several others interviewed for this story, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.

A Trump spokesman did not respond to a request for comment for this article.

The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack has said that it plans to subpoena Eastman as it investigates his role in Trump’s efforts, which included two legal memos in which Eastman outlined how Republicans could deny Joe Biden the White House.

In the days before the attack, Eastman was working to salvage Trump’s presidency out of a “command center” in rooms at the Willard hotel near the White House, alongside such top Trump allies as Rudolph W. Giuliani.

Jacob wrote in his draft article that Eastman and Giuliani were part of a “cadre of outside lawyers” who had “spun a web of lies and disinformation” in an attempt to pressure Pence to betray his oath of office and the Constitution.

Jacob wrote that legal authorities should consider taking action against the attorneys.

“Now that the moment of immediate crisis has passed, the legal profession should dispassionately examine whether the attorneys involved should be disciplined for using their credentials to sell a stream of snake oil to the most powerful office in the world, wrapped in the guise of a lawyer’s advice,” he wrote in the draft.

Robert Costello, a lawyer for Giuliani, said Jacob had a right to his opinion. “This is an opinion piece, and not surprisingly, he agrees with his own opinion,” Costello said.

A bipartisan group of former government officials and legal figures, including two former federal judges, has asked the California bar association to investigate Eastman’s conduct.

Eastman’s memos gave several options for Pence to use the vice president’s ceremonial role of counting electoral college votes to halt Trump’s defeat. Eastman has argued that the 1887 Electoral Count Act is unconstitutional, and that the vice president has power under the 12th Amendment to decide whether electoral votes are valid.

Under the most drastic of the options outlined in the memos, Pence would have rejected electoral votes for Biden from states where Republicans were claiming fraud, making Trump the winner — a proposal that Eastman has more recently tried to disown as a “crazy” suggestion he did not endorse.

Eastman made the case for Pence to act during a meeting in the Oval Office with Trump, Pence, Jacob and Pence’s chief of staff, Marc Short, on the afternoon of Jan. 4, according to two people familiar with the discussions. The meeting was reported in the media soon after. Pence advisers said they had never heard of Eastman before January.

The meeting was called, the people said, because Trump was frustrated that Pence was not acceding to his demands, and wanted the vice president to hear arguments from Eastman, whom he viewed as having more credibility in legal circles than some of Trump’s other legal advisers.

Eastman argued that Pence should at least try the maneuver of not certifying electors on Jan. 6, because it had never been done before, and so had not been ruled on by the courts, one of the people familiar with the discussions said. Eastman told The Post he did not recall making “any such statement.”

Eastman said that, in response to a question from Pence, he said in the meeting that it was an “open question” whether Pence had the ability to unilaterally decide which electoral votes to count.

During a little-noticed radio interview that evening, Eastman said that although it would be politically impossible for a vice president to certify his “favorite slate of electors” without any evidence of fraud, the “level of corruption” in the 2020 vote could not be allowed to stand.

“I think that makes the exercise of the vice president’s power here very compelling,” Eastman said.

In a meeting the following day with Short and Jacob at the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Eastman began by arguing that Pence should reject Biden electors, according to the two people. He did not share his memos outlining how to stop Biden’s victory with Pence’s team at either the Jan. 4 or the Jan. 5 meetings, according to the people familiar with the discussions. Eastman’s memos were first reported in the book “Peril” by Washington Post reporters Bob Woodward and Robert Costa.

Jacob wrote in his draft article that a Trump lawyer conceded to him in a Jan. 5 meeting that “not a single member of the Supreme Court would support his position,” that“230 years of historical practice were firmly against it,” and that “no reasonable person would create a rule that invested a single individual with unilateral authority to determine the validity of disputed electoral votes for President of the United States.”

The two people familiar with the matter said Eastman was the only lawyer in the Jan. 5 meeting.

By the end of the two-hour meeting, the people said, Eastman had conceded that having Pence reject Biden electors was not a good plan.

Eastman denied to The Post that he made concessions and said he never advocated for Pence to reject the electors outright. “That is false,” he said. “And distorting the conversation, which depends heavily on what scenario was being discussed.”

In telephone calls later on Jan. 5, Eastman proposed to Pence advisers that he take a less drastic option outlined in the memos of “sending it back to the states” for the unfounded fraud claims to be examined. Eastman also suggested on several occasions, according to the people with knowledge of the meetings, that Pence could intervene because the courts would invoke “the political question doctrine” and not intervene.

“But if the courts stayed out of a standoff between the Vice President and Congress over the fate of the presidency, then where would the issue be decided? In the streets?” Jacob wrote in his draft op-ed.

Eastman told The Post: “I did not push for electors to be thrown out, but for the disputes to be referred to state legislatures, as had been requested by key legislators in several states, for assessment of the impact of the acknowledged illegality in the conduct of the election.”

Around 1 p.m. on Jan. 6, as Trump addressed supporters at a rally near the White House, Pence’s office released a letter to Congress stating that he would not block the certification. Thousands of Trump supporters marched to the Capitol and rioted.

“What the lawyers did not tell the crowd — and to the best of my knowledge, never told the president — is that they were pushing an abstract legal theory that had overwhelming drawbacks and limitations,” Jacob wrote in the op ed.

Jacob wrote that Pence never considered a different course of action.

After the unrest began on Jan. 6, Jacob sent an email to memorialize his conversation with Eastman from the day before, according to the two people with knowledge.

After Pence was escorted out of the Senate, Jacob emailed Eastman to criticize the legal advice he had pushed to Pence on stopping certification.

“Thanks to your bull----, we are now under siege,” Jacob wrote, according to Eastman. Eastman, while willing to discuss the email, declined to provide a copy to The Post. One of the other people with knowledge of the matter confirmed the content of Jacob’s email.

That led to Eastman sending the email stating that Pence’s decision led to the “siege.”

The two exchanged further messages in which Jacob apologized for his expletive, but not his critiques, and Eastman said that he had wanted Pence to postpone the count to allow states to investigate, according to Eastman and the two people familiar with the exchange.

That evening, Eastman told Jacob in another email that Pence should still not certify the results, according to Eastman and one of the people familiar with the emails. That email from Eastman came after the rioters had been cleared from the Capitol and Pence had returned to the chair to preside over the proceedings and vowed to continue."
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seacoaster wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:29 am
That evening, Eastman told Jacob in another email that Pence should still not certify the results, according to Eastman and one of the people familiar with the emails. That email from Eastman came after the rioters had been cleared from the Capitol and Pence had returned to the chair to preside over the proceedings and vowed to continue."
What....did you and you gang give up on the "Texas WHITE man kills Black Muslim " and all the other variants that infotainment is pushing........the agenda of "divide"......so, back to TRUMP :roll:

Ask again, why report a murder victims religion, if only to paint the narrative ?

Does Qnon lobby, like Pfizer does.......asking for a friend.
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The Most Damning Jan 6th Revelation Yet

Yes, it's the email sent by Eastman during the insurrection discussed in SC's post above. Trump, Eastman and others where actively directing the sedition as it unfolded. McCarthy is desperate to avoid testifying about his conversations with the Liar in Chief on January 6th.

Watch the frantic squirming when subpoena's go out to these bums...need a pallet of popcorn delivered...

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At first glance, thought this guy was a little loopy but then read up on him and his background in telecom technology (which is summarized in tweet #3 before you read the rest of his theory)

Sadly, his case is laid out in 40+ tweets (which is a pain to read) but by the time you get to the end, it seems almost compelling (and also that the Feds have all this data - including purchase and the tracing of burner phones.) Also may explain to Salty why the Feds aren't talking to ANYBODY (except internally and maybe with some of the alleged perps) during an ongoing investigation which might involve conspiracy and perhaps even sedition.

https://twitter.com/tomiahonen/status/1 ... 25/photo/1

The first tweet goes like this -
The Wire: Trump Special Thread 1/

"Attorney General Garland yesterday mentioned 'new' forensic methods to catch Jan 6 terrorist insurrectionists that were not commonly used prior to 2003. One is cellphone tower data. I mentioned it already on Jan 10. Let me tell this via a story"

This link might be easier to use if you want to read the entire piece
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1453 ... 97225.html
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DONALD TRUMP WOULD WITHHOLD EVIDENCE ABOUT WHETHER ENRIQUE TARRIO REALLY DID VISIT THE WHITE HOUSE LAST DECEMBER

A look at the kinds of records Orange duce seeks to protect from the Jan 6th committee.

Enrique Tarrio visiting the White House on December 12th? Inquiring minds want to know...

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“Most Wanted” Capitol rioter flees FBI — reportedly seeking asylum in Belarus

"Nothing to hide" crowd fleeing to the former Soviet block?

You can't make this stuff up...

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Kismet wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:43 am At first glance, thought this guy was a little loopy but then read up on him and his background in telecom technology (which is summarized in tweet #3 before you read the rest of his theory)

Sadly, his case is laid out in 40+ tweets (which is a pain to read) but by the time you get to the end, it seems almost compelling (and also that the Feds have all this data - including purchase and the tracing of burner phones.) Also may explain to Salty why the Feds aren't talking to ANYBODY (except internally and maybe with some of the alleged perps) during an ongoing investigation which might involve conspiracy and perhaps even sedition.

https://twitter.com/tomiahonen/status/1 ... 25/photo/1

The first tweet goes like this -
The Wire: Trump Special Thread 1/

"Attorney General Garland yesterday mentioned 'new' forensic methods to catch Jan 6 terrorist insurrectionists that were not commonly used prior to 2003. One is cellphone tower data. I mentioned it already on Jan 10. Let me tell this via a story"

This link might be easier to use if you want to read the entire piece
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1453 ... 97225.html
"new" technology ? The headline says it's been in use since 2003.

No surprise to anyone who watches Dateline or Better Call Saul.
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old salt wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:41 pm
Kismet wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:43 am At first glance, thought this guy was a little loopy but then read up on him and his background in telecom technology (which is summarized in tweet #3 before you read the rest of his theory)

Sadly, his case is laid out in 40+ tweets (which is a pain to read) but by the time you get to the end, it seems almost compelling (and also that the Feds have all this data - including purchase and the tracing of burner phones.) Also may explain to Salty why the Feds aren't talking to ANYBODY (except internally and maybe with some of the alleged perps) during an ongoing investigation which might involve conspiracy and perhaps even sedition.

https://twitter.com/tomiahonen/status/1 ... 25/photo/1

The first tweet goes like this -
The Wire: Trump Special Thread 1/

"Attorney General Garland yesterday mentioned 'new' forensic methods to catch Jan 6 terrorist insurrectionists that were not commonly used prior to 2003. One is cellphone tower data. I mentioned it already on Jan 10. Let me tell this via a story"

This link might be easier to use if you want to read the entire piece
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1453 ... 97225.html
"new" technology ? The headline says it's been in use since 2003.

No surprise to anyone who watches Dateline or Better Call Saul.
It's specifically calling after 2003 'new', not used prior to then.
Why are you questioning?
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dislaxxic wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:48 pm “Most Wanted” Capitol rioter flees FBI — reportedly seeking asylum in Belarus

"Nothing to hide" crowd fleeing to the former Soviet block?

You can't make this stuff up...

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From Buzzfeed:

"Neumann said he left Ukraine after noticing that he was being followed by agents from the Ukrainian security service, the SBU. In August, under the cover of night, he explained, he crossed illegally by foot into Belarus"

So not just a seditionist, but an illegal immigrant as well. :lol:
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:54 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:41 pm
Kismet wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:43 am At first glance, thought this guy was a little loopy but then read up on him and his background in telecom technology (which is summarized in tweet #3 before you read the rest of his theory)

Sadly, his case is laid out in 40+ tweets (which is a pain to read) but by the time you get to the end, it seems almost compelling (and also that the Feds have all this data - including purchase and the tracing of burner phones.) Also may explain to Salty why the Feds aren't talking to ANYBODY (except internally and maybe with some of the alleged perps) during an ongoing investigation which might involve conspiracy and perhaps even sedition.

https://twitter.com/tomiahonen/status/1 ... 25/photo/1

The first tweet goes like this -
The Wire: Trump Special Thread 1/

"Attorney General Garland yesterday mentioned 'new' forensic methods to catch Jan 6 terrorist insurrectionists that were not commonly used prior to 2003. One is cellphone tower data. I mentioned it already on Jan 10. Let me tell this via a story"

This link might be easier to use if you want to read the entire piece
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1453 ... 97225.html
"new" technology ? The headline says it's been in use since 2003.

No surprise to anyone who watches Dateline or Better Call Saul.
It's specifically calling after 2003 'new', not used prior to then.
Why are you questioning?
Not questioning. Pointing out it's not new or extraordinary. 2003 was nearly 2 decades ago.
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NOT on topic, but I thought that this thread might have persons interested in this chance of a lifetime event. My daughter got me a tix.

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ARLINGTON, Va. — For the first time in nearly 100 years, and as part of the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Centennial Commemoration, the public will be able to walk on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Plaza and lay flowers in front of the Tomb on Nov. 9 and 10, 2021.

The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Centennial Commemoration Public Flower Ceremony, a two-day event, will be free and open to the public and will allow visitors to personally pay their respects to the Unknown Soldiers. This is a rare opportunity for the public to walk next to the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, a privilege otherwise given only to the sentinels of the 3rd U.S. Infantry Regiment, “The Old Guard.”

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Mr moderator, deactivate my account.
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This is cradle and shoot signing out.
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CU88 wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:06 am NOT on topic, but I thought that this thread might have persons interested in this chance of a lifetime event. My daughter got me a tix.

For First Time in Nearly 100 Years, Public Authorized to Approach Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Plaza
10/12/2021
ARLINGTON, Va. — For the first time in nearly 100 years, and as part of the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Centennial Commemoration, the public will be able to walk on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Plaza and lay flowers in front of the Tomb on Nov. 9 and 10, 2021.

The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Centennial Commemoration Public Flower Ceremony, a two-day event, will be free and open to the public and will allow visitors to personally pay their respects to the Unknown Soldiers. This is a rare opportunity for the public to walk next to the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, a privilege otherwise given only to the sentinels of the 3rd U.S. Infantry Regiment, “The Old Guard.”

https://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/Media ... dier-Plaza
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Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:16 am
CU88 wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:06 am NOT on topic, but I thought that this thread might have persons interested in this chance of a lifetime event. My daughter got me a tix.

For First Time in Nearly 100 Years, Public Authorized to Approach Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Plaza
10/12/2021
ARLINGTON, Va. — For the first time in nearly 100 years, and as part of the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Centennial Commemoration, the public will be able to walk on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Plaza and lay flowers in front of the Tomb on Nov. 9 and 10, 2021.

The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Centennial Commemoration Public Flower Ceremony, a two-day event, will be free and open to the public and will allow visitors to personally pay their respects to the Unknown Soldiers. This is a rare opportunity for the public to walk next to the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, a privilege otherwise given only to the sentinels of the 3rd U.S. Infantry Regiment, “The Old Guard.”

https://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/Media ... dier-Plaza
Was never a huge doors fan but this (along w maybe riders on the storm and maybe la woman) is my favorite song of theirs.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MIk55C1s0ns
Nice pull.

I do love the music and movie references that people post here. I was going to drop a "Lighten up Francis" yesterday...
by cradleandshoot » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:57 am
Mr moderator, deactivate my account.
You have heck this forum up to making it nothing more than a joke. I hope you are happy.
This is cradle and shoot signing out.
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Re: Accountability After The Fact - Truth and Reconciliation

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CU88 wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:06 am NOT on topic, but I thought that this thread might have persons interested in this chance of a lifetime event. My daughter got me a tix.

For First Time in Nearly 100 Years, Public Authorized to Approach Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Plaza
10/12/2021
ARLINGTON, Va. — For the first time in nearly 100 years, and as part of the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Centennial Commemoration, the public will be able to walk on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Plaza and lay flowers in front of the Tomb on Nov. 9 and 10, 2021.

The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Centennial Commemoration Public Flower Ceremony, a two-day event, will be free and open to the public and will allow visitors to personally pay their respects to the Unknown Soldiers. This is a rare opportunity for the public to walk next to the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, a privilege otherwise given only to the sentinels of the 3rd U.S. Infantry Regiment, “The Old Guard.”

https://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/Media ... dier-Plaza
Thanks for posting. Just hit the registration link....already sold out.
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Re: Accountability After The Fact - Truth and Reconciliation

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Here is the court's decision rejecting Trump's claim of executive privilege over documents and communications related to his attempt to impede the decision of the majority of Americans and the results of the electoral college:

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content ... chives.pdf

Much of the decision appears to be a competition between the incumbent (who holds the privilege and can exercise the waiver, if in his discretion he chooses to do so) and the former President. Pages 26 through 35 include the court's canvassing of the propriety of the legislative request for records. Pretty easy decision.
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Re: Accountability After The Fact - Truth and Reconciliation

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seacoaster wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:14 am Here is the court's decision rejecting Trump's claim of executive privilege over documents and communications related to his attempt to impede the decision of the majority of Americans and the results of the electoral college:

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content ... chives.pdf

Much of the decision appears to be a competition between the incumbent (who holds the privilege and can exercise the waiver, if in his discretion he chooses to do so) and the former President. Pages 26 through 35 include the court's canvassing of the propriety of the legislative request for records. Pretty easy decision.
Assume former DOPUS will appeal this before Friday's deadline for NARA to turn over requested records?
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Re: Accountability After The Fact - Truth and Reconciliation

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Kismet wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:20 am
seacoaster wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:14 am Here is the court's decision rejecting Trump's claim of executive privilege over documents and communications related to his attempt to impede the decision of the majority of Americans and the results of the electoral college:

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content ... chives.pdf

Much of the decision appears to be a competition between the incumbent (who holds the privilege and can exercise the waiver, if in his discretion he chooses to do so) and the former President. Pages 26 through 35 include the court's canvassing of the propriety of the legislative request for records. Pretty easy decision.
Assume former DOPUS will appeal this before Friday's deadline for NARA to turn over requested records?
Yes. There will be a request to stay and an appeal -- today. A couple of days ago, his lawyer tried to get a pre-appeal stay from the judge, before she issued her decision. She said No, that is not how it works.
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