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Farfromgeneva wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:34 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:48 pm The Game!

OSU 24
Mich 30


https://www.google.com/search?q=ohio+st ... ch;dt;fp;1;;;


While growing up in the 1960s, this was the type of college football that I enjoyed watching. The tv announcers agreed that this was one the greatest games they ever saw. What a game - one for the ages.

Three wins in a row over OSU. The Big House sure was rockin'.
Do you remember the game in 2006?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Mi ... tball_game
OSU alum here. McCord sucks. Ryan Day has one more year or get back in the playoff or beat Michigan or he is as good as gone. How does McCord make that throw late in the game? So ill-advised.

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JoeMauer89 wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:08 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:34 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:48 pm The Game!

OSU 24
Mich 30


https://www.google.com/search?q=ohio+st ... ch;dt;fp;1;;;


While growing up in the 1960s, this was the type of college football that I enjoyed watching. The tv announcers agreed that this was one the greatest games they ever saw. What a game - one for the ages.

Three wins in a row over OSU. The Big House sure was rockin'.
Do you remember the game in 2006?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Mi ... tball_game
OSU alum here. McCord sucks. Ryan Day has one more year or get back in the playoff or beat Michigan or he is as good as gone. How does McCord make that throw late in the game? So ill-advised.

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I don’t think either team is as good as the 2006 vintages. MIke Hart the Mich RB might’ve been the last super duper elite talented RB to come out of CNY.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:34 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:48 pm The Game!

OSU 24
Mich 30


https://www.google.com/search?q=ohio+st ... ch;dt;fp;1;;;


While growing up in the 1960s, this was the type of college football that I enjoyed watching. The tv announcers agreed that this was one the greatest games they ever saw. What a game - one for the ages.

Three wins in a row over OSU. The Big House sure was rockin'.
Do you remember the game in 2006?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Mi ... tball_game



I did watch that game. Certainly was fun to watch though it lacked good D which is always the hallmark of football success. In fact, IIRC OSU was clobbered in the seasonal finale due to lack of D.

GREAT rivalry. Always fun football.
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You catch the Iron Bowl? Auburn showed up and played their best football all year (I personally can’t root for any Hugh Freeze team, from those shady Miss teams when he took Oher from HS with him to Falwell U to Auburn, and find Auburn to be a super dirty program). But they got mushroom stamped on a beautiful pass and some weak man converse in the end zone at the end of the game.

Could be a turd in UGAs punch bowl next week though Alabama’s defense is not a typical Saban D.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HGbAPwzJsYo
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darn - missed that Iron Bowl


But I did watch the Lake Wobegone Class 5A Championship last night which was decided in OT:



https://highschool.si.com/minnesota/202 ... -prep-bowl

https://highschool.si.com/minnesota/202 ... ff-lawler2


There are no losers in a great match like that one.


Chanhassen 34
St Thomas 31



Chanhassen is a suburban city, population over 26,000 in Hennepin County not too far from Minneapolis.

St Thomas in St Paul is affiliated with St Thomas Univ which, as we discussed on another thread, recently turned Division One in its sports.


GREAT game!
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Brooklyn wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:32 am darn - missed that Iron Bowl


But I did watch the Lake Wobegone Class 5A Championship last night which was decided in OT:



https://highschool.si.com/minnesota/202 ... -prep-bowl

https://highschool.si.com/minnesota/202 ... ff-lawler2


There are no losers in a great match like that one.


Chanhassen 34
St Thomas 31



Chanhassen is a suburban city, population over 26,000 in Hennepin County not too far from Minneapolis.

St Thomas in St Paul is affiliated with St Thomas Univ which, as we discussed on another thread, recently turned Division One in its sports.


GREAT game!
Yep familiar w St Thomas, a large school that never fit in D3 which Hobart played about a dozen years ago in a National quarters. If I didn’t have a baby then I would’ve made the trip. Their HC was a Ithaca alum. Was formerly in the MIAC w St Johns and Bethel (think Carleton is in that conference as well) which is typically a too 4 conference in D3.
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The end of an era: Pac 10/12 comes to an end as,



Washington wins Pac-12 Championship Game: Live updates, reaction as Huskies down Oregon
Washington improved to 13-0 and likely locked up a College Football Playoff berth in a thrilling win.


https://theathletic.com/live-blogs/pac- ... 8UseNfrfH/


Washington 34
Oregon 30




https://sports.yahoo.com/college-footba ... 02580.html




Still cannot come to terms entirely over the fact that the Pac 10/12 is now gone. Over the years they played a great brand of football with USC-UCLA, Cal-Stanford, Oregon-Oregon St etc. I spent a great many hours watching those great memorable games from the early-mid 60s to today. An era is gone and I'm still shaking my head over this great loss. Great game today. Great finale.
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Neat story in the history of game day

https://www.theringer.com/college-footb ... al-history
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The de facto NC game was played yesterday.
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Shame the Jays had to lose the game yesterday.
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molo wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:32 pm The de facto NC game was played yesterday.
You sure TX and Wash are out of it? Particularly Wash? I’m skeptical of west coast schools ability to win both LOS but this year may be an exception to the general wisdom and while Alabama’s OL is far improved from early season but Texas handled them if you watched that game.

Mich Ive for losing in the first game/round/semis and think the Big Ten is not that good at all this year but the beauty of non national, coast to coast conferences are these games precisely.
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44WeWantMore wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:10 pm Shame the Jays had to lose the game yesterday.
Been a nice program for a while I root for escort the rare hobart game (2014 only one since I played there), but honestly ive got a steak dinner on N Central running through the Stagg Bowl.
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college football playoffs:


https://collegefootballplayoff.com/



I'm not entirely sure as to why Texas was selected over Florida State which went undefeated. I realize its starting QB is injured but it won despite this loss. Texas squeezed by TCU and Kansas St and suffered one loss.


FSU fans cry "conspiracy!":


https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 802654007/


Clearly Florida State's chance at championship was STOLEN
This is a clear case of selection interference, and we’re looking very strongly at interference from big media, big money and big tech. The woke Radical Leftist Communist Marxists were likely involved as well, and we will find them and they will be held responsible.



Conspiracy! Ah, that's it. Now we all know why the Seminoles were snubbed this year.
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Brooklyn wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:15 am college football playoffs:


https://collegefootballplayoff.com/



I'm not entirely sure as to why Texas was selected over Florida State which went undefeated. I realize its starting QB is injured but it won despite this loss. Texas squeezed by TCU and Kansas St and suffered one loss.


FSU fans cry "conspiracy!":


https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 802654007/


Clearly Florida State's chance at championship was STOLEN
This is a clear case of selection interference, and we’re looking very strongly at interference from big media, big money and big tech. The woke Radical Leftist Communist Marxists were likely involved as well, and we will find them and they will be held responsible.



Conspiracy! Ah, that's it. Now we all know why the Seminoles were snubbed this year.
It’s who you beat that is the best indicator moreso than who you lost to. Surely you’ve seen this debate a million times already.

LSU + Louisville < @ Alabama (who just beat undefeated #1) cleanly and more or less going away + OK State

Mainly the top win. Oh and FSUs third sting QB doesn’t look like he can handle a top team at all. This isn’t the OSU Cardale Jones situations.

Plus fairness has never been the objective or point of one is being honest here.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 12:47 pm
It’s who you beat that is the best indicator moreso than who you lost to. Surely you’ve seen this debate a million times already.

LSU + Louisville < @ Alabama (who just beat undefeated #1) cleanly and more or less going away + OK State

Mainly the top win. Oh and FSUs third sting QB doesn’t look like he can handle a top team at all. This isn’t the OSU Cardale Jones situations.

Plus fairness has never been the objective or point of one is being honest here.

I checked those strength of schedule listings and agree with you that there is much debate on all that. One online source, for example, had Ohio State with the toughest SOS while another had it ranked at #45 nationwide. So who knows the truth in this regard?
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Brooklyn wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 1:47 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 12:47 pm
It’s who you beat that is the best indicator moreso than who you lost to. Surely you’ve seen this debate a million times already.

LSU + Louisville < @ Alabama (who just beat undefeated #1) cleanly and more or less going away + OK State

Mainly the top win. Oh and FSUs third sting QB doesn’t look like he can handle a top team at all. This isn’t the OSU Cardale Jones situations.

Plus fairness has never been the objective or point of one is being honest here.

I checked those strength of schedule listings and agree with you that there is much debate on all that. One online source, for example, had Ohio State with the toughest SOS while another had it ranked at #45 nationwide. So who knows the truth in this regard?
I mean it’s easy to follow best wins. Same reason OSU really never had a shot before rivalry weekend w wins over PSU and ND.

If you don’t have a solid top ten win then you need like 4+ and 3 to be 20 or higher to overcome a top ten win.

Plus again it’s within their discretion which anyone should understand and anyone with common sense as a casual viewer can see the FR QB would be toasted even with a month of prep against any of those other defenses. He was like 6-21 vs a pretty mediocre Louisville defense, even that win was a LVille team who just lost cleanly to UK and who’s other loss was a blasting by a below avg Pitt.

Before we cry for FSU let’s also point out the are the aggressor trying to break the ACC for their own benefit and further exacerbate the separation of the top 60-80 programs from the rest, so this is sweet sardonic irony that they get the same treatment Boise State, UCF and all the others have gotten over the years. No quarter here.
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the FR QB would be toasted even with a month of prep against any of those other defenses

Nope. Not an issue here and certainly not something to be considered. Just go by the overall seasonal record rather than the potential for a good matchup. At least that's the way it has always been done, in theory.

But the point is moot as the NCAA has made its decision and we are stuck with it.

Can't help but laugh at the conspiracy theory idea - blame it on political correctness, blame Democrats, blame liberals, blame Biden, BLAME BROOKLYN! All that snivelling shttt does spice up the chat on forums such as this one. :lol:
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Brooklyn wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:06 pm
the FR QB would be toasted even with a month of prep against any of those other defenses

Nope. Not an issue here and certainly not something to be considered. Just go by the overall seasonal record rather than the potential for a good matchup. At least that's the way it has always been done, in theory.

But the point is moot as the NCAA has made its decision and we are stuck with it.

Can't help but laugh at the conspiracy theory idea - blame it on political correctness, blame Democrats, blame liberals, blame Biden, BLAME BROOKLYN! All that snivelling shttt does spice up the chat on forums such as this one. :lol:
Are you sure it was the NCAA's decision? I thought the entire point of the playoff system was to squeeze out the NCAA?
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Brooklyn wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:06 pm
the FR QB would be toasted even with a month of prep against any of those other defenses

Nope. Not an issue here and certainly not something to be considered. Just go by the overall seasonal record rather than the potential for a good matchup. At least that's the way it has always been done, in theory.

But the point is moot as the NCAA has made its decision and we are stuck with it.

Can't help but laugh at the conspiracy theory idea - blame it on political correctness, blame Democrats, blame liberals, blame Biden, BLAME BROOKLYN! All that snivelling shttt does spice up the chat on forums such as this one. :lol:
It hasn’t ever been done that way in reality. And they really haven’t claimed that either if you focus on it.

There was always going to be whining and it’ll be absurd when #14 team is whining about not being in as if they have chance behind silly discrete mathematicians ability to contemplate.

Probably is Brooklyn’s fault. Got so gentrified and Disneyfied that it lost all its cool grime!
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44WeWantMore wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:31 am
Brooklyn wrote: Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:06 pm
the FR QB would be toasted even with a month of prep against any of those other defenses

Nope. Not an issue here and certainly not something to be considered. Just go by the overall seasonal record rather than the potential for a good matchup. At least that's the way it has always been done, in theory.

But the point is moot as the NCAA has made its decision and we are stuck with it.

Can't help but laugh at the conspiracy theory idea - blame it on political correctness, blame Democrats, blame liberals, blame Biden, BLAME BROOKLYN! All that snivelling shttt does spice up the chat on forums such as this one. :lol:
Are you sure it was the NCAA's decision? I thought the entire point of the playoff system was to squeeze out the NCAA?
Right I don’t think he clearly sees the distinction between BCS and NCAA.

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My note: comparisons require evaluating the personnel. That’s coming from own own with direct experience in this. They do this with seeding in d3 playoffs as well as Ithaca College lost their 5th year all league QB late in the season and has an AQ which is the only guarantee of access anywhere in the system Iim fact, but we’re seeded without Winfgfield in mind.

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