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Hansen, Amonte, Holmes (?), Halpern (?), Lindsey Frank, Mahoney (?), Gillespie. Not sure how many of these seniors have a COVID year, if any. But NU is going to look very different next year, except for Scott staring at the officials. That will remain.uncfan1013 wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 6:55 pmI wanted to make a thread for the teams that people will either think or will struggle next year to be the program they have been because of the graduation of seniors.
An example could be Northwestern will the loss of Laliberty, Scane and Coykendall.
Northwestern is losing a lot more than that. Of their starters, they're losing:uncfan1013 wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 6:55 pmI wanted to make a thread for the teams that people will either think or will struggle next year to be the program they have been because of the graduation of seniors.
An example could be Northwestern will the loss of Laliberty, Scane and Coykendall.
Edmondson will be Maryland's biggest threat but they do have some other players they've been giving opportunities to who will probably have bigger roles next year. I think Thomas can come back too and she's a decent piece to have. More than half the starting defense could be back, but replacing Sterling in goal won't be easy. That's not to mention Ahearn at the draw and Clevenger and Leubecker offense. Most teams knew they'd have a year with a ton of upperclassmen in the COVID era and Maryland's happened to be this year.lacrosselaxin20 wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 7:25 pm I think many teams will suffer from all 2019s and before along with 2020s graduating.
Especially Maryland & Notre Dame. Kori Edmonson is their offense next season?
No more Covid years...this was the last year for Covid eligibility (for D1 at least...).Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 7:07 pmHansen, Amonte, Holmes (?), Halpern (?), Lindsey Frank, Mahoney (?), Gillespie. Not sure how many of these seniors have a COVID year, if any. But NU is going to look very different next year, except for Scott staring at the officials. That will remain.uncfan1013 wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 6:55 pmI wanted to make a thread for the teams that people will either think or will struggle next year to be the program they have been because of the graduation of seniors.
An example could be Northwestern will the loss of Laliberty, Scane and Coykendall.
Gotcha; thanks Spiderman. So NU and Maryland will be hammered by graduation. Penn State, I think, will also graduate O'Neill and Abernathy and some others. Might then be interesting -- for B1G watchers -- to look at the opposite: which team(s) has (have) players coming back in force?spidey44 wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 6:36 amNo more Covid years...this was the last year for Covid eligibility (for D1 at least...).Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 7:07 pmHansen, Amonte, Holmes (?), Halpern (?), Lindsey Frank, Mahoney (?), Gillespie. Not sure how many of these seniors have a COVID year, if any. But NU is going to look very different next year, except for Scott staring at the officials. That will remain.uncfan1013 wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 6:55 pmI wanted to make a thread for the teams that people will either think or will struggle next year to be the program they have been because of the graduation of seniors.
An example could be Northwestern will the loss of Laliberty, Scane and Coykendall.
ND losing Callahan will not hurt them too much, she was average at best.uncfan1013 wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 6:59 pm Another good example is ND. Losing Choma, Wojlak, Ahern, Doherty, Denes, and Callahan will hurt the program for next season
I haven't looked too closely, but didn't UVA have a youth movement this year?Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 6:47 am
Gotcha; thanks Spiderman. So NU and Maryland will be hammered by graduation. Penn State, I think, will also graduate O'Neill and Abernathy and some others. Might then be interesting -- for B1G watchers -- to look at the opposite: which team(s) has (have) players coming back in force?
Just checked... UVA loses 4 of top 8 scorers, but 3 of the top 8 are freshmen... They'll need some others to step up, or hit the portal too...spidey44 wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 8:05 amI haven't looked too closely, but didn't UVA have a youth movement this year?Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 6:47 am
Gotcha; thanks Spiderman. So NU and Maryland will be hammered by graduation. Penn State, I think, will also graduate O'Neill and Abernathy and some others. Might then be interesting -- for B1G watchers -- to look at the opposite: which team(s) has (have) players coming back in force?
The portal isn't going to be what it's been the last few years though. With the Covid years over for the most part, other than players looking for a change of scenery, most the proven transfers this offseason will be from the Ivies. One of Penn's top players is going to NU next year. Now how that happened over a month ago prior to the portal opening is another question, but we all know there's tampering.laxdadpat wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 7:54 am The top programs will be looking hard at the transfer portal. Just so many high level players leaving the sport. It's basically the 2020 and 2019 high school graduates leaving in 1 year. A large % of the high level 2019's used that extra year as well as a few top 2018's. It all added up to a big number of women that played a ton of minutes this year. IF UNC could use a couple defenders, every top 30 team is looking to fill some holes.
It's not tampering if it is done through a club coach, which is what is happening for many of these transfers.hmmm wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 8:26 amThe portal isn't going to be what it's been the last few years though. With the Covid years over for the most part, other than players looking for a change of scenery, most the proven transfers this offseason will be from the Ivies. One of Penn's top players is going to NU next year. Now how that happened over a month ago prior to the portal opening is another question, but we all know there's tampering.laxdadpat wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 7:54 am The top programs will be looking hard at the transfer portal. Just so many high level players leaving the sport. It's basically the 2020 and 2019 high school graduates leaving in 1 year. A large % of the high level 2019's used that extra year as well as a few top 2018's. It all added up to a big number of women that played a ton of minutes this year. IF UNC could use a couple defenders, every top 30 team is looking to fill some holes.
A lot of the transfers that will be available are players that committed to top 10-20 programs that aren't seeing the field. Those are lottery tickets in a lot of cases because you just don't know what you're getting. There will always be a few Rachel Clark and Emma LoPinto kind of players that have a specific reason for transferring but I don't think we'll see as many impact transfers as we've seen the last few years.
Ha. Yeah, that's not allowed. I'm fully aware that's what's done. The rule specifically states that there cannot be any contact with another coach, either directly or indirectly, prior to the athlete entering the transfer portal.WashedUpLaxDad wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 2:06 pmIt's not tampering if it is done through a club coach, which is what is happening for many of these transfers.hmmm wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 8:26 amThe portal isn't going to be what it's been the last few years though. With the Covid years over for the most part, other than players looking for a change of scenery, most the proven transfers this offseason will be from the Ivies. One of Penn's top players is going to NU next year. Now how that happened over a month ago prior to the portal opening is another question, but we all know there's tampering.laxdadpat wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 7:54 am The top programs will be looking hard at the transfer portal. Just so many high level players leaving the sport. It's basically the 2020 and 2019 high school graduates leaving in 1 year. A large % of the high level 2019's used that extra year as well as a few top 2018's. It all added up to a big number of women that played a ton of minutes this year. IF UNC could use a couple defenders, every top 30 team is looking to fill some holes.
A lot of the transfers that will be available are players that committed to top 10-20 programs that aren't seeing the field. Those are lottery tickets in a lot of cases because you just don't know what you're getting. There will always be a few Rachel Clark and Emma LoPinto kind of players that have a specific reason for transferring but I don't think we'll see as many impact transfers as we've seen the last few years.
UNC will have plenty of offensive talent, but they still have a ton of questions on defense and goalie. Need to figure that out before they can start talking about being a true championship contender.ACClaxfan wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 3:02 pm Looks to me like the level of lacrosse in general will be dropping off and just about every top program will be taking a big hit. If UNC can stay healthy I think it will be theirs for the taking. As far as the UVA youth movement they lose their 2 best defenders who never came off the field along with their 2 best attack players , and 2 starting middies ,one of which was second on the team in goals. I may be wrong but it seems they may have played so many freshmen more because the sophmore/junior classes contributed little also heard there was some definite favoritism shown to the freshman class by the coaching staff. That said if some of the current sophomore and juniors can fill those spaces and a few of next years freshmen step up ,who knows .