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Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 9:14 am
by Henpecked
Lots of teams losing a ton of star players next year. Do they rebuild or reload (transfers)? I would guess in todays’s game it would be the latter. Experienced lineups make all the difference.

Stony Brook - Noah Armitage (transfer to MD), Dylan Pallonetti, Nick DuPuis (transfer to UNC), Christian Loud, Michael Sabella

St. joes- Levi Anderson, Matt Bohmer, Carter Page, Levi Verch, Torrin Eccleston, Colin Reich, Gavin Tyge,

Duke- Brennan O’Neill, Alex Slusher, Jake Caputo, will Frisoli, Henry White, Kenny Brower, Tyler Carpenter, Jake Naso, Dyson Williams, Josh Zawada, Aidan Danenza

Michigan- Beau Pederson, Justin Tiernan, Justin Wietfrldt, Mikey Boehm, Cathal Roberts, Ryan Shriber, Andrew Stanzel, Jack Whitney, Christian Ronda, Isaac Aronson

Virginia- Connor Schellenberger, Chase Yeager, Peyton Cormier, Tom Collucci, Cole Kastner, Jack Boyden

Delaware- Mike Robinson, JP Ward, Reed Kurtz, Joe Speers, Aiden Fritz, Matt Acchione, Cam Acchione, Nick Jessen, Tate Wasson

I know I’m missing a bunch but the last year of Covid transfers will open up a lot of spots for young players potentially. We will see.

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 10:26 am
by 10stone5
Henpecked wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:14 am
Michigan- Beau Pederson, Justin Tiernan, Justin Wietfrldt, Mikey Boehm, \

Cathal Roberts,


Ryan Shriber, Andrew Stanzel, Jack Whitney, Christian Ronda, Isaac Aronson
Not entirely related,

just wanted to point out the interesting direction of Cathal, and really also his brother Aran.
From Pete Worstell's ground breaking based on Maryland Terps "Be The Best" - San Ramon Valley High (NorCal) program,
to Princeton, then on to Michigan.
One of the better trajectories of players that have come out of the former Pete Worstell program.

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 10:36 am
by Antonio114
Johnny Hopkins

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 11:00 am
by Formerhound
Loyola: only Minicus comes back out of entire attack and top five middies. Also losing Staudt in goal to transfer portal. Lots of sophomores and juniors who didn’t play much this year will get their chance next year.

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 11:09 am
by Powellfan22
Notre Dame loses a bunch:

Pat Kavanaugh, Eric Dobson, Liam Entemann, Reilly Gray, Chris Conlin, Devon McLane, Marco Napolitano, Carter Parlette, Ross Burgmaster.

Still think they will be pretty good next year, but that's a lot.

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 11:18 am
by jhu06
Hopkins played 24 guys yesterday. 18 were grad students or seniors. There were almost as many grad students (5) as non seniors (6) in the box score.

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 11:20 am
by BigTurn
Powellfan22 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:09 am Notre Dame loses a bunch:

Pat Kavanaugh, Eric Dobson, Liam Entemann, Reilly Gray, Chris Conlin, Devon McLane, Marco Napolitano, Carter Parlette, Ross Burgmaster.

Still think they will be pretty good next year, but that's a lot.
Potential for Faison as well if he has a strong fall and decides to focus on football.

Think they have some strong returning pieces as well and a big incoming class. Would expect a drop off but nothing too drastic.

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 12:01 pm
by azim21
BigTurn wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:20 am
Powellfan22 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:09 am Notre Dame loses a bunch:

Pat Kavanaugh, Eric Dobson, Liam Entemann, Reilly Gray, Chris Conlin, Devon McLane, Marco Napolitano, Carter Parlette, Ross Burgmaster.

Still think they will be pretty good next year, but that's a lot.
Potential for Faison as well if he has a strong fall and decides to focus on football.

Think they have some strong returning pieces as well and a big incoming class. Would expect a drop off but nothing too drastic.
Faison already ended the fall last year as the top slot receiver and was the Sun Bowl MVP. Don't see why a strong fall from him would make him give up his first line midfield spot, especially considering he committed to ND as a lacrosse player. Marcus Freeman has already said he loves that he plays on the lacrosse team and sees no issue with it. So I don't think that would happen unless he gets a major injury this fall.

There's a ton to replace for sure, but with the development of Chris Kavanagh and Jake Taylor staying another year I don't see a huge drop off offensively. Certainly won't be as deadly, especially while man-up, but should still be near the top on that side of the field. The defense will be where the biggest concern will be heading into 2025.

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 12:04 pm
by coda
azim21 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 12:01 pm
BigTurn wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:20 am
Powellfan22 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:09 am Notre Dame loses a bunch:

Pat Kavanaugh, Eric Dobson, Liam Entemann, Reilly Gray, Chris Conlin, Devon McLane, Marco Napolitano, Carter Parlette, Ross Burgmaster.

Still think they will be pretty good next year, but that's a lot.
Potential for Faison as well if he has a strong fall and decides to focus on football.

Think they have some strong returning pieces as well and a big incoming class. Would expect a drop off but nothing too drastic.
Faison already ended the fall last year as the top slot receiver and was the Sun Bowl MVP. Don't see why a strong fall from him would make him give up his first line midfield spot, especially considering he committed to ND as a lacrosse player. Marcus Freeman has already said he loves that he plays on the lacrosse team and sees no issue with it. So I don't think that would happen unless he gets a major injury this fall.

There's a ton to replace for sure, but with the development of Chris Kavanagh and Jake Taylor staying another year I don't see a huge drop off offensively. Certainly won't be as deadly, especially while man-up, but should still be near the top on that side of the field. The defense will be where the biggest concern will be heading into 2025.
If he becomes a legit NFL prospect, than he will have to focus on football. The money differential is just too much. He is at least a season away from making that call.

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 12:09 pm
by JeremyCuse
Powellfan22 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:09 am Notre Dame loses a bunch:

Pat Kavanaugh, Eric Dobson, Liam Entemann, Reilly Gray, Chris Conlin, Devon McLane, Marco Napolitano, Carter Parlette, Ross Burgmaster.

Still think they will be pretty good next year, but that's a lot.
Taylor having seemingly endless eligibility helps but ya ND loses a ton.

Hopkins also loses a ton as noted above. Pretty much SSDM with a pulse; Martin, Raposo, Ierlan, Jaronski, Ierlan, Szuluk, Smith, Degnon, Angelus, Peshko, Dunn, Grimes, McDermott, Stoebner etc. They do have a few guys who should have another year due to injury in Deans and Melendez which should lessen the losses a bit.

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 12:45 pm
by HopFan16
JeremyCuse wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 12:09 pm
Powellfan22 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:09 am Notre Dame loses a bunch:

Pat Kavanaugh, Eric Dobson, Liam Entemann, Reilly Gray, Chris Conlin, Devon McLane, Marco Napolitano, Carter Parlette, Ross Burgmaster.

Still think they will be pretty good next year, but that's a lot.
Taylor having seemingly endless eligibility helps but ya ND loses a ton.

Hopkins also loses a ton as noted above. Pretty much SSDM with a pulse; Martin, Raposo, Ierlan, Jaronski, Ierlan, Szuluk, Smith, Degnon, Angelus, Peshko, Dunn, Grimes, McDermott, Stoebner etc. They do have a few guys who should have another year due to injury in Deans and Melendez which should lessen the losses a bit.
Not official but the tea leaves suggest Smith is returning. He was drafted by the Cannons but immediately added to the holdout list. Bauer and Raposo may be back as well. Not sure about Deans or Melendez. But yeah, lot of experience leaving regardless.

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 12:47 pm
by Powellfan22
Denver also loses a bunch - FOGO who has taken almost all draws in Stathkis, top leading scorers in Silstrop and Lampert, Connell, starting goalie Kleban, starting d-men, DiBenedetto, and Hangland, and starting LSM Mercucio.

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 12:48 pm
by xxxxxxx
Carc assured us yesterday that next year the Ivy League will be the greatest league in modern lacrosse history, so we got that going for us.

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 12:54 pm
by DocBarrister
HopFan16 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 12:45 pm
JeremyCuse wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 12:09 pm
Powellfan22 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:09 am Notre Dame loses a bunch:

Pat Kavanaugh, Eric Dobson, Liam Entemann, Reilly Gray, Chris Conlin, Devon McLane, Marco Napolitano, Carter Parlette, Ross Burgmaster.

Still think they will be pretty good next year, but that's a lot.
Taylor having seemingly endless eligibility helps but ya ND loses a ton.

Hopkins also loses a ton as noted above. Pretty much SSDM with a pulse; Martin, Raposo, Ierlan, Jaronski, Ierlan, Szuluk, Smith, Degnon, Angelus, Peshko, Dunn, Grimes, McDermott, Stoebner etc. They do have a few guys who should have another year due to injury in Deans and Melendez which should lessen the losses a bit.
Not official but the tea leaves suggest Smith is returning. He was drafted by the Cannons but immediately added to the holdout list. Bauer and Raposo may be back as well. Not sure about Deans or Melendez. But yeah, lot of experience leaving regardless.
Next season, on the field, this will be Collison’s team. Whoever returns, he will be THE MAN.

DocBarrister

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 12:59 pm
by 1766
Most every team not in the Ivy loses a lot in the big 3 conferences, save perhaps Unc.

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 1:16 pm
by nyjay
I, for one, am looking forward to some change in the sport. It feels like we've been living in the same era forever. I'm done with "which top 5 program can bring in the best grad students as transfers" every year. I'm excited to see some new faces emerge and hopefully the level of parity in the sport continues to increase (this year's completely chalk bracket and ND's seeming dominance notwithstanding, it's felt more open this year than it has recently).

Very happy for the Covid era to finally pass through the python.

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 1:18 pm
by JeremyCuse
HopFan16 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 12:45 pm
JeremyCuse wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 12:09 pm
Powellfan22 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:09 am Notre Dame loses a bunch:

Pat Kavanaugh, Eric Dobson, Liam Entemann, Reilly Gray, Chris Conlin, Devon McLane, Marco Napolitano, Carter Parlette, Ross Burgmaster.

Still think they will be pretty good next year, but that's a lot.
Taylor having seemingly endless eligibility helps but ya ND loses a ton.

Hopkins also loses a ton as noted above. Pretty much SSDM with a pulse; Martin, Raposo, Ierlan, Jaronski, Ierlan, Szuluk, Smith, Degnon, Angelus, Peshko, Dunn, Grimes, McDermott, Stoebner etc. They do have a few guys who should have another year due to injury in Deans and Melendez which should lessen the losses a bit.
Not official but the tea leaves suggest Smith is returning. He was drafted by the Cannons but immediately added to the holdout list. Bauer and Raposo may be back as well. Not sure about Deans or Melendez. But yeah, lot of experience leaving regardless.
Bauer, Deans and Melendez all should definitely have another year left, as you noted unclear if they want to take it but it's there for them. I am unclear how exactly Raposo would get another year, he only played 4 games in 2021 but that's more then the 30% med redshirt threshold and there's no mention of injury. Smith only appears to have played in 2 in 21, perhaps their gonna try for a med RS if he had some sort of injury, though again I would note there is not one listed.

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 1:23 pm
by JeremyCuse
1766 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 12:59 pm Most every team not in the Ivy loses a lot in the big 3 conferences, save perhaps Unc.
Cuse and UNC bring back by far the most in the ACC. Syracuse loses Stevens (massive loss), Olexxo, Wright the back up LSM and Mark (another big loss) and Christian Mule. They also are likely to lose Kohn who appears to have another year of eligibility but is likely to move on. Everyone else is back or at least has the ability to be back including the entire close unit, and 5 of the top 6 offensively.

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 2:26 pm
by Farfromgeneva
No one has metnioned lindenwood yet?

Re: Teams you won’t recognize in 2025

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 2:29 pm
by Formerhound
nyjay wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:16 pm I, for one, am looking forward to some change in the sport. It feels like we've been living in the same era forever. I'm done with "which top 5 program can bring in the best grad students as transfers" every year. I'm excited to see some new faces emerge and hopefully the level of parity in the sport continues to increase (this year's completely chalk bracket and ND's seeming dominance notwithstanding, it's felt more open this year than it has recently).

Very happy for the Covid era to finally pass through the python.
So true. How would you like to have been a 2020, 2021 or 2022 Rutgers recruit? Every year they brought in 10-12 grad transfers. How many of those recruits actually got to play?they really stared recruiting well in 2022 with five four star recruits. In 2024 they got zero four stars. Kids saw what that staff was doing each year. Look at the 2020 and 2021 classes. Other than Knobloch and Kulis most never even play and many transferred. They lose almost every impact player from their 2024 7-7 roster. My prediction is that they won’t win 5 games next year and will be bad for years. Short term gain v long term loss.