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[LaxGnome22]

MD is 25-0 all time against Hop.

*24-0

It's 25-0. The first was when Hop was still DIII in 1979. Other 24 are since 2000 when they started playing each other as D1 teams.

I get the 0-24 from Hop's website and their historical tally vs the Terps. You can include the loss from 1979 as that is your prerogative. But I'm not counting a D3 loss to a D1 program from back in the Stone Age. Nor is Johns Hopkins.

This is from the Hop record book. I'm not savvy enough to post the Trump "Wrong" gif, but you get the idea.

Geez, I don’t even know how to post a picture so you are way ahead of me.

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

MD is 25-0 all time against Hop.

*24-0

It's 25-0. The first was when Hop was still DIII in 1979. Other 24 are since 2000 when they started playing each other as D1 teams.

I get the 0-24 from Hop's website and their historical tally vs the Terps. You can include the loss from 1979 as that is your prerogative. But I'm not counting a D3 loss to a D1 program from back in the Stone Age. Nor is Johns Hopkins.

This is from the Hop record book. I'm not savvy enough to post the Trump "Wrong" gif, but you get the idea.

I do indeed. You are right. Frickin' Hop and their fricked up double-minded record keeping. They just took all the fun out it for me if they win Wednesday.

https://hopkinssports.com/sports/womens ... aryland/12

[hmmm]

MD is 25-0 all time against Hop.

*24-0

It's 25-0. The first was when Hop was still DIII in 1979. Other 24 are since 2000 when they started playing each other as D1 teams.

I get the 0-24 from Hop's website and their historical tally vs the Terps. You can include the loss from 1979 as that is your prerogative. But I'm not counting a D3 loss to a D1 program from back in the Stone Age. Nor is Johns Hopkins.

This is from the Hop record book. I'm not savvy enough to post the Trump "Wrong" gif, but you get the idea.

Geez, I don’t even know how to post a picture so you are way ahead of me.

I just learned for this special occasion

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

I can get behind just about any of these choices for polls, but USA Lax Mag is still on crack. How do they move Maryland up a spot after dropping one to Northwestern, who they have as #2 behind Notre Dame?

Completely unhinged.

Cue the clown car gif...

[MolonLaxe]

MD is 25-0 all time against Hop.

*24-0

It's 25-0. The first was when Hop was still DIII in 1979. Other 24 are since 2000 when they started playing each other as D1 teams.

I get the 0-24 from Hop's website and their historical tally vs the Terps. You can include the loss from 1979 as that is your prerogative. But I'm not counting a D3 loss to a D1 program from back in the Stone Age. Nor is Johns Hopkins.

Why not? Michigan football is the winningest program in history when the include all their wins over high schools, various clubs, and other not even college teams. The precedent is already there.

[MolonLaxe]

Maryland got smoked by Northwestern, who is only the #2 in the USA Lax Mag poll. Maryland vs Michigan was at least a close loss. Many of you have stated your votes swing wide based on what happened in the past week. How do you justify moving MD up a slot and keeping a one loss Michigan down?

If Michigan loses to #1 NW on the 20th you’ll all drop them quite a few slots even though they lost to the #1 team which some are justifying why MD should not drop.

The Maryland bias may never die.

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

MD is 25-0 all time against Hop.

*24-0

It's 25-0. The first was when Hop was still DIII in 1979. Other 24 are since 2000 when they started playing each other as D1 teams.

I get the 0-24 from Hop's website and their historical tally vs the Terps. You can include the loss from 1979 as that is your prerogative. But I'm not counting a D3 loss to a D1 program from back in the Stone Age. Nor is Johns Hopkins.

Why not? Michigan football is the winningest program in history when the include all their wins over high schools, various clubs, and other not even college teams. The precedent is already there.

If the team is fine with it, I'm obviously going along with it. But Hop's web team should get on the same page and synch their info.

[hmmm]

Maryland got smoked by Northwestern, who is only the #2 in the USA Lax Mag poll. Maryland vs Michigan was at least a close loss. Many of you have stated your votes swing wide based on what happened in the past week. How do you justify moving MD up a slot and keeping a one loss Michigan down?

If Michigan loses to #1 NW on the 20th you’ll all drop them quite a few slots even though they lost to the #1 team which some are justifying why MD should not drop.

The Maryland bias may never die.

Michigan's SOS is 18th. MDs is 2nd. MD beat Michigan just last week. Michigan should have put that game away. No one to blame but themselves for being ranked below MD right now. MD only moved up because Penn has gone 0-2 since beating MD and dropped out of the top 10. There's a chance the teams may play again in Big Ten tourney. They're both getting into NCAAs regardless.

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

1. Northwestern
2. Syracuse
3. Notre Dame
4. Michigan
5. Virginia

6. Florida
7. Loyola
8. Denver
9. Yale
10. Penn St

11. Boston College
12. Maryland
13. Stony Brook
14. James Madison
15. North Carolina

16. Stanford
17. Duke
18. Navy
19. Johns Hopkins
20. Princeton

[MolonLaxe]

1. Northwestern
2. Syracuse
3. Notre Dame
4. Michigan
5. Virginia

6. Florida
7. Loyola
8. Denver
9. Yale
10. Penn St

11. Boston College
12. Maryland
13. Stony Brook
14. James Madison
15. North Carolina

16. Stanford
17. Duke
18. Navy
19. Johns Hopkins
20. Princeton

No qualms with the list this week. We keep inching closer to the tournament. Some games I'm interested in this week.

Wednesday
Penn vs Loyola
Princeton vs Maryland

Thursday
UNC vs Duke (I hope they both lose in triple OT)
BC vs Cuse (lost a little luster after the last BC loss)
Penn State vs Hopkins (tame the cats please)
Coastal vs Jacksonville (ASUN tourney seeding/title implications)

Saturday
UMBC vs Binghamton (AE tourney seeding/title implications)
Princeton vs Dartmouth
Oregon vs Arizona State
Lindenwood vs Liberty

Sunday
Northwestern travels to Michigan (could be a great game or a NW blowout)
USC vs Colorado

[Seacoaster(1)]

1. Northwestern -- kind of standing alone. We know they are beatable, but I just doubt anyone will. Game versus Michigan coming up.

2. Syracuse -- routine win over Clemson (can we please get a camera elevated a bit?) Regular season finale with BC coming up. In my view, a game featuring two teams with question marks at goalie.

3. Notre Dame -- put 20 goals on Virginia Tech, 13 of which came from Ahern (5), Choma (4) and Wolak (4).

4. Michigan -- nice comeback against JHU, which let this get get away from them. I am not a believer in Michigan, but the fact is that the Wolves' record has only a single blemish, a game they should have won. Clearly a well-coached team; but I wonder if Nielsen's overt intensity is really helpful during the games. But for now, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and Michigan is feasting pretty well.

5. Boston College -- lost to UVA, but I still think this is a good team. Shaky goaltending needs to get sorted, or the limit will become pretty clear.

6. Loyola -- the relatively weak Patriot schedule makes this team hard to really place in the bigger picture. But Hounds are 12-1, the only loss in the Dome to No. 2. Loyola has one of the best players in the country right now in Boyle.

7. Florida -- pretty impressed by the way Gators beat JMU; just steadily working in the game, got the separation they needed in the 4th quarter, and stepped on JMU's neck the rest of the way.

8. Denver -- 11-3 with losses to Michigan, Maryland and Northwestern. Hard not to place them in the top ten, so here they are.

9. UVA -- beat BC in a great game on an emotional senior day, always hard to do. I have to say I like Lamonica's manner with her charges.

10. Yale -- 11-1 and only loss -- convincing loss -- was to BC.

[njbill]

I'm getting my first look this year this afternoon at Boyle's younger sister, Abby. When I saw Chase in 2019 (her soph year), she had lots of potential but still had holes in her game. 2020 evaporated into the ether. By 2021 Chase had hugely improved and ended up being one of the very top Jersey players that year. Really happy to see she's getting better and better in college. Abby seems to be following a similar arc, which is why I am really looking forward to seeing her today. And for Loyola fans, Rumson's Rachel James (a 2025 Hound commit) is the real deal. No guarantees, of course, but my money says she'll be a real player in college.

Another thing that intrigues me about today's Rumson game is that they are playing New Canaan, I think, for the first time ever. Rumson graduated nine starters from their 2023 squad which usually means the following season will be a down year. But when coaches schedule big OOS opponents, that means they think their team will be good.

Will give Dmac a report on whether he knows who is at the game today.

Sorry for the semi-hijack. I'm really glad I'm not trying to do rankings this year. Impossible.

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

1 Notre Dame
2 Northwestern
3 Syracuse
4 Virginia
5 Boston College
6 Loyola
7 Maryland
8 Michigan
9 Johns Hopkins
10 Yale
11 Princeton
12 Penn
13 Florida
14 Denver
15 Stony Brook
16 Penn State
17 James Madison
18 North Carolina
19 Stanford
20 Duke

Also considered (alphabetical order): Brown (9-4), Colorado (10-4), Drexel (10-4), Fairfield (11-1), Harvard (8-3), Navy (11-3), Richmond (11-3), USC (10-4)

[Seacoaster(1)]

I'm getting my first look this year this afternoon at Boyle's younger sister, Abby. When I saw Chase in 2019 (her soph year), she had lots of potential but still had holes in her game. 2020 evaporated into the ether. By 2021 Chase had hugely improved and ended up being one of the very top Jersey players that year. Really happy to see she's getting better and better in college. Abby seems to be following a similar arc, which is why I am really looking forward to seeing her today. And for Loyola fans, Rumson's Rachel James (a 2025 Hound commit) is the real deal. No guarantees, of course, but my money says she'll be a real player in college.

Another thing that intrigues me about today's Rumson game is that they are playing New Canaan, I think, for the first time ever. Rumson graduated nine starters from their 2023 squad which usually means the following season will be a down year. But when coaches schedule big OOS opponents, that means they think their team will be good.

Will give Dmac a report on whether he knows who is at the game today.

Sorry for the semi-hijack. I'm really glad I'm not trying to do rankings this year. Impossible.

Agreed; impossible.

Boyle's game is pretty complete, this from the 4 or five games I have seen her play in this year. Very good on draws; carries the ball in traffic very well (even in a year in which you are not allowed to basically touch a player between the 30s; sigh....); works well in the offense and shoots well. She is 5'10" and is a real presence everywhere.

[Seacoaster(1)]

1 Notre Dame
2 Northwestern
3 Syracuse
4 Virginia
5 Boston College
6 Loyola
7 Maryland
8 Michigan
9 Johns Hopkins
10 Yale
11 Princeton
12 Penn
13 Florida
14 Denver
15 Stony Brook
16 Penn State
17 James Madison
18 North Carolina
19 Stanford
20 Duke

Also considered (alphabetical order): Brown (9-4), Colorado (10-4), Drexel (10-4), Fairfield (11-1), Harvard (8-3), Navy (11-3), Richmond (11-3), USC (10-4)

Sorry I missed the -- obviously -- pretty good dope and booze at US Lacrosse HQ this weekend.

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

Sorry I missed the -- obviously -- pretty good dope and booze at US Lacrosse HQ this weekend.

I know. Utterly ridiculous rationale on display. Of course they're stuck keeping Notre Dame at number one until they lose. And some of the other poll positions are so absurd they're not even worth mentioning.

[MolonLaxe]

1 Notre Dame
2 Northwestern
3 Syracuse
4 Virginia
5 Boston College
6 Loyola
7 Maryland
8 Michigan
9 Johns Hopkins
10 Yale
11 Princeton
12 Penn
13 Florida
14 Denver
15 Stony Brook
16 Penn State
17 James Madison
18 North Carolina
19 Stanford
20 Duke

Also considered (alphabetical order): Brown (9-4), Colorado (10-4), Drexel (10-4), Fairfield (11-1), Harvard (8-3), Navy (11-3), Richmond (11-3), USC (10-4)

Sorry I missed the -- obviously -- pretty good dope and booze at US Lacrosse HQ this weekend.

Always. They get really lazy late season--maybe due to the things you mentioned.

[Seacoaster(1)]

1 Notre Dame
2 Northwestern
3 Syracuse
4 Virginia
5 Boston College
6 Loyola
7 Maryland
8 Michigan
9 Johns Hopkins
10 Yale
11 Princeton
12 Penn
13 Florida
14 Denver
15 Stony Brook
16 Penn State
17 James Madison
18 North Carolina
19 Stanford
20 Duke

Also considered (alphabetical order): Brown (9-4), Colorado (10-4), Drexel (10-4), Fairfield (11-1), Harvard (8-3), Navy (11-3), Richmond (11-3), USC (10-4)

Sorry I missed the -- obviously -- pretty good dope and booze at US Lacrosse HQ this weekend.

Always. They get really lazy late season--maybe due to the things you mentioned.

Of course I was (tastelessly) joking. But some of these are really hard to explain.

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

1 Northwestern (18)
2 Syracuse (3)
3 Notre Dame (1)
4 Michigan
5 Loyola
6 Virginia
6 Boston College
8 Maryland
9 Florida
10 Yale
11 Johns Hopkins
12 Denver
13 Stony Brook
14 Penn
15 North Carolina
16 James Madison
17 Princeton
18 Stanford
19 Penn State
20 Navy
21 Colorado
22 USC
23 Fairfield
24 Harvard
25 Duke

1st place votes in parentheses

[flushlax77]

1. Northwestern- Dominant win over OSU. Odds on favorite to lift the trophy again. Defense is starting to click.
2. Syracuse- Clinched the ACC Regular Season title. Still think there is a question mark in goal that is covered up nicely by their dominance on the draw.
3. Notre Dame- Pummeled poor Virginia Tech (what happened to them? Say what you want about Sung, but they were beating Duke and going to the tournament with him at the helm). Can they perform in post season?
4. Michigan- Dominant second half against JHU. Final 4 weekend for them or bust. Guess we will need to see how the bracket shakes out.
5. UVA- The duke game is the single most perplexing game of the year sans the NW vs PSU game. Definitely a final 4 contender. When the GK is on, they are good, when the GK is off, they wont make it.
6. BC- No show in the first half against UVA, got it to OT, but a team with THAT much talent, the amount of losses they have had is difficult to wrap your head around.
7. Loyola- Smacked Princeton around. There is an argument that they should be top 5.
8. Maryland- Loss to PSU. This team is very average. No excuses to lose to a Penn State team that beat Vandy by 1.
9. Florida- A tight game vs JMU turned into a blowout in the second half. Sneaky good offense and the goaltending has been figured out
10. Yale- Excited to see them play Denver in a few weeks.
11. JHU- tough week for them, but can’t drop them much losing to two top 8 teams
12. SBU- Beat Rutgers and Drexel this week. The team is starting to click and I wouldn’t want to play them come tournament time.
13. Denver- Beat up on Marquette, Has 3 games that are wins coming up before a date with Yale in the back half of the month.
14. JMU- outside that UNC game at the beginning of the season, their second best win is Temple? Two more wins coming up vs Vanderbilt and Old Dominion
15. Princeton- Ugly loss to Loyola where they weren’t competitive. I get that the numbers say the Ivy is a 3 bid league, but I would say that Duke/Clemson/Louisville /VT from the ACC would compete with this team and most Big 10 program would beat them. Best win is Penn State team that choked against them and Penn who is on the downswing and lost to them on the road in driving rain.
16. UNC- Beat Pitt. Interesting game vs Duke coming up, they will need some save which has been hard to come by.
17. Stanford- Nice win over USC and headed towards the #1 seed in the PAC 12 tournament. Closer game than one would think
18. Penn- Beat Cornell in cold/grey Ithaca. Down early, but righted the ship for a 4 goal win. Might have peaked to early this season, but anything can happen
19. Penn State- This team is incredibly frustrating.
20. Harvard- Loss to Yale (not really close at all)
21. Clemson- Loss to Cuse (not really close at all)
22. Navy- Win vs Army (How Army has fallen this year)
23. Duke-Win vs Louisville (6 seed in the ACC tournament)
24. Drexel- Loss to SBU and almost lost to Towson
25. Fairfield- Keeps chugging along

RV: USC, Richmond, Temple, Brown