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That big drop off would wax every team in ODAC excluding the top 2. Mary Washington beat them up last year, lost to Roanoke by 2.aroundtheoutside wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:24 pm I've seen some good debate on this bubbling up a few places and thought it'd be fun to start its own thread. Is NESCAC the best conference pound for pound, or has Liberty taken that throne? ODAC has a storied history but is it a shadow of its former self? How do you rank a conference like C2C that has a couple whales and then a big drop off?
“Beat them up” is very strong, and considering the talent on HSC, Roanoke, and RMC and the young up and coming teams like Bridgewater and Shenandoah in the ODAC it’s a fair statement to say ODAC is very relevant, will be for a long time, and hasn’t fallen off one bit. Again, watch some games, they are all posted on their websites and on demand exists.laxdad1434 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:44 pmThat big drop off would wax every team in ODAC excluding the top 2. Mary Washington beat them up last year, lost to Roanoke by 2.aroundtheoutside wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:24 pm I've seen some good debate on this bubbling up a few places and thought it'd be fun to start its own thread. Is NESCAC the best conference pound for pound, or has Liberty taken that throne? ODAC has a storied history but is it a shadow of its former self? How do you rank a conference like C2C that has a couple whales and then a big drop off?
Kean and MSU are not waxing HSC and would maybe beat RMC on a good daylaxdad1434 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:44 pmThat big drop off would wax every team in ODAC excluding the top 2. Mary Washington beat them up last year, lost to Roanoke by 2.aroundtheoutside wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:24 pm I've seen some good debate on this bubbling up a few places and thought it'd be fun to start its own thread. Is NESCAC the best conference pound for pound, or has Liberty taken that throne? ODAC has a storied history but is it a shadow of its former self? How do you rank a conference like C2C that has a couple whales and then a big drop off?
Wax on, Wax off....ChopMan23 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:25 pmKean and MSU are not waxing HSC and would maybe beat RMC on a good daylaxdad1434 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:44 pmThat big drop off would wax every team in ODAC excluding the top 2. Mary Washington beat them up last year, lost to Roanoke by 2.aroundtheoutside wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:24 pm I've seen some good debate on this bubbling up a few places and thought it'd be fun to start its own thread. Is NESCAC the best conference pound for pound, or has Liberty taken that throne? ODAC has a storied history but is it a shadow of its former self? How do you rank a conference like C2C that has a couple whales and then a big drop off?
WM wins against ODAC teams:TurfToeVictim wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:17 pm“Beat them up” is very strong, and considering the talent on HSC, Roanoke, and RMC and the young up and coming teams like Bridgewater and Shenandoah in the ODAC it’s a fair statement to say ODAC is very relevant, will be for a long time, and hasn’t fallen off one bit. Again, watch some games, they are all posted on their websites and on demand exists.laxdad1434 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:44 pmThat big drop off would wax every team in ODAC excluding the top 2. Mary Washington beat them up last year, lost to Roanoke by 2.aroundtheoutside wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:24 pm I've seen some good debate on this bubbling up a few places and thought it'd be fun to start its own thread. Is NESCAC the best conference pound for pound, or has Liberty taken that throne? ODAC has a storied history but is it a shadow of its former self? How do you rank a conference like C2C that has a couple whales and then a big drop off?
And, I heard MW beat up on HSC pretty good today. MW is picked to be bottom of the CLC.laxdad1434 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:47 pmWax on, Wax off....ChopMan23 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:25 pmKean and MSU are not waxing HSC and would maybe beat RMC on a good daylaxdad1434 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:44 pmThat big drop off would wax every team in ODAC excluding the top 2. Mary Washington beat them up last year, lost to Roanoke by 2.aroundtheoutside wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:24 pm I've seen some good debate on this bubbling up a few places and thought it'd be fun to start its own thread. Is NESCAC the best conference pound for pound, or has Liberty taken that throne? ODAC has a storied history but is it a shadow of its former self? How do you rank a conference like C2C that has a couple whales and then a big drop off?
They’re behind ODAC. Until one of the bottom feeders takes out SU/CNU, I can’t see putting them above the ODAC. HSC/Noke have way better chances at winning ODAC compared to Stockton/msu/kean/MW chances of winning the CLC.
Bottom feedersChopMan23 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:09 pmThey’re behind ODAC. Until one of the bottom feeders takes out SU/CNU, I can’t see putting them above the ODAC. HSC/Noke have way better chances at winning ODAC compared to Stockton/msu/kean/MW chances of winning the CLC.
I agree about not winning the CLC, but Kean, MSU, MW, Stockton have a better chance of winning ODAC than HSC/Noke. Nobody is beating SU/CNU, except if they beat each other. Most conferences are 2 team top heavy. The MAC C lost their third to bottom team over to MAC F. With that, their average jumps into the 85’s and they jump the SUNYAC.
I have watched these teams play several times. HSC and Roanoke are a few steps above kean and Stockton.laxdad1434 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:19 pmBottom feedersChopMan23 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:09 pmThey’re behind ODAC. Until one of the bottom feeders takes out SU/CNU, I can’t see putting them above the ODAC. HSC/Noke have way better chances at winning ODAC compared to Stockton/msu/kean/MW chances of winning the CLC.
It would be interesting if anybody has ever compiled the data of OOC records.
ChopMan23 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:09 pmThey’re behind ODAC. Until one of the bottom feeders takes out SU/CNU, I can’t see putting them above the ODAC. HSC/Noke have way better chances at winning ODAC compared to Stockton/msu/kean/MW chances of winning the CLC.