New England West 2024

[justanotherperson]

I may be reading it wrong, apologies if I am, but does the above list indicate that Deerfield has SEVEN PGs?

pcowlax, I could be wrong. I was trying to get a sense of who was on the roster last year vs this year so I was hoping for some intel from Deerfield fans. It is difficult to sometimes integrate PG's into your prrogram. Im not saying thats why Deerfield has had their 2 very close losses but one wonders if they were there for a year or 2, would these early season outcomes have been different.

[justanotherperson]

Not so accurate D1-2-3 New England West Rankings:

Interesting week already with some great games that may be a predictor of the season. Happy to have more intel and comments.

D1
-Brunswick holds the top spot but teams are getting close
-Loomis moves into the vaunted top 3 by knocking off Salisbury
-Is there such thing as a good loss? Well Deerfield had 2 and I moved them up as a result
-AOF reboot has started and had a tough loss to Tabor
-I should have given Westy a little more credit with their reboot
-Unfortunately the bottom of NEW1 has already been determined with NMH beating Kent which makes this race anticlimactic

D2-boarding
-Millbrook looking like the team to beat with convincing wins
-May be a down year for Pomfret with 3 bad losses arlread
-Bottom will be a race between Suffield and Cheshire

D2-Day
-GCDS lost to the top D2 boarding team Millbrook
-King played competitive against a D2 boarding team in Gunnery
-Hopkins may be the team that finishes last with a lost to a D3 team in Harvey without their best player

Current Last Week School Record Comments IL Rating
Division 1
1 1 Brunswick (3-0) Beat Radnor (11-5) and Deerfield (11-10) 99.90
2 4 Loomis (3-0) Beat Governors (14-8) and Salisbury (10-8) 99.56
3 5 Deerfield (0-2) Lost to Belmont Hill (12-13) and Brunswick (10-11) 93.98
4 3 Taft (1-2) Beat St Sebs (16-13) 92.27
5 2 Salisbury (2-1) Beat Nobles (11-6) but lost to Loomis (8-10) 79.88
6 6 Choate (2-0) Beat Berkshire (13-8) and Pomfret (19-2) 78.50
7 7 Trinity Pawling (0-0) Idle
8 8 Hotchkiss (0-1) Lost to Andover (7-9)
9 10 Berkshire (1-1) Lost to Choate (8-13) but beat Cushing (8-7) 75.88
10 9 Avon Old Farms (0-1) Lost to Tabor (8-13)
11 12 Westminster (2-1) Beat NMH (18-6) and Gunnery (15-12) but lost to Belmont Hill (7-13) 89.74
12 11 Northfield Mount Hermon (1-1) Lost to Westy (6-18) but neat Kent (12-4) 80.12
13 13 Kent (0-1) Lost to NMH (4-12)

Division 2 West (mostly boarding)
1 1 Millbrook (2-0) Beat Cheshire Academy (20-6) and GCDS (15-8) 82.00
2 3 Wilbraham & Monson (0-0) Beat East Catholic in a scrimmage (17-6)
3 4 Albany Acadamies (1-1) Beat Suffield (20-6)
4 5 Williston (1-1) Lost to Rivers (4-12) but beat Cheshire Acad (18-7) 73.00
5 6 Brunswick B (not JV) (1-0) Beat Deerfield 2 (9-5)
6 2 Pomfret (0-3) Lost to Roxbury Latin (7-19) and Choate (2-19) 80.24
7 7 Gunnery (1-0) Beat King (14-9) but lost to Westy (12-15)
8 8 Canterbury (0-0) idle
9 9 Suffield Academy (0-1) Lost to Albany Acad (6-20)
10 10 Cheshire Academy (0-2) Lost to Millbrook (6-20) and Williston (7-18) 72.38

Division 2 - FAA (Day Schools))
1 1 Greenwich Country Day (0-1) Lost to Millbrook (8-15)
2 3 King School (1-1) Lost to Gunnery (9-14)
3 2 Greens Farms Academy
4 4 Rye Country Day Played Fieldston
5 5 Hamden Hall Lost Farmington in a scrimmage
6 6 St Lukes
7 7 Kingswood Oxford Beat Golden, CO and lost to Tilton in scrimnmages
8 8 Hopkins School (0-1) Lost to Harvey (9-13)

Division 3
1 2 Harvey (1-0) Beat Hopkins (13-9)
2 1 Williams School
3 3 Hoosac
4 4 South kent
5 5 Forman
6 6 Darrow
7 7 Wooster
8 8 Masters
9 9 Marvelwood
10 10 Woodhall
11 11 Storm King

[justanotherperson]

Corrections to the "transfer portal / PG" list

Got some nice corrections to the list. I have bolded them below:

PREP PRIOR YR CURRENT YR POSITION PREV TOWN / SCHOOL CLUB COMMITMENT 24/25
AOF 2024 2025 Benerofe Jonathan Attack St Ignatius Sweetlax
AOF 2023 PG Cronin Connor Midfield Marblehead, MA Laxachusetts Princeton (football)
AOF 2023 PG Granara Robbie Attack Reading, MA NE Twisters UMass
AOF 2023 PG Ready Griffin Goalie Xaverian Laxachusetts
AOF 2023 PG Wu Kaelin LSM Hopkins School Dragons Michigan (not lacrosse)
Berkshire 2025 2026 Boren Eli Attack Mamoroneck, NY Predators
Berkshire 2026 2027 Holbrough James Attack Brighton, NY Sweetlax Upstate
Berkshire 2023 PG Turowsky Jack Midfield Northfield Mount Hermon Piatelli UMass
Choate 2025 2025 Shilling Alexander Goalie Millbrook ADVNC San Fran
Choate 2025 2026 Privateer Bryce Attack / Midfield Frontier, NY 3D Upstate
Choate 2023 PG Greenhaw Tommy Midfield Rye, NY 2Way
Choate 2023 PG Kosicki Max Attack Concord-Carlisle, MA Fighting Clams Bates
Deerfield 2024 2025 Haskell PJ Attack Cold Spring Harbor, NY LI Express
Deerfield 2024 2025 Ramsey Grant Defense Culver Juiced Cherries Denver
Deerfield 2023 PG Buonanno Peter Attack Moses Brown 3D NE Princeton
Deerfield 2023 PG Muir Watt Attack Kincaid, TX Iron Horse Denver
Deerfield 2023 PG Prissert Noah Defense Oxbridge Academy, FL Sweetlax FL Brown
Deerfield 2023 PG Schwartz Thomas Defense Nobles Laxachusetts Middlebury
Deerfield 2023 PG Tolve John Midfield Duxbury, MA Laxachusetts
Deerfield 2023 PG Vogel Raph Midfield Milton Academy 3D NE Wesleyan --> Williams
Deerfield 2023 PG Wood Ben LSM Belmont Hill 3D NE Georgetown
Hotchkiss 2025 2025 Carle Grant FOGO Manalapan, NJ TriState Army
Hotchkiss 2024 2025 Finster Reid Midfield Pelham, NY Team 91
Hotchkiss 2024 2025 Laganza Jack LSM Hopkins School 2Way
Hotchkiss 2023 PG Lehrman Andrew Goalie Scarsdale, NY Predators Colgate
Hotchkiss 2023 PG McCummings Liam Defense Poly Prep Day LI Sting / Express
Hotchkiss 2023 PG Ornstein Ryan Midfield Scarsdale, NY Predators Colgate
Loomis 2023 2024 Hobot Joe FOGO Smithtown East, NY True Nat / Annapolis Johns Hopkins
Loomis 2024 2024 Sheffield Brenton LSM Tabor 3D Upstate Penn --> Ohio State
Loomis 2024 2025 Macpherson Nate Defense PIttsford, NY 3D Upstate / Hilltop Villanova
Loomis 2025 2025 O' Keefe Liam Goalie Bishop Guertin NH Tomahawks Harvard
Loomis 2025 2026 Rodriguez Jayden Midfield Spencerport, NY Nations Best/Hilltop
Loomis 2026 2027 Griffin Hayes Defense Hebron Christian, GA 3D Georgia
Loomis 2023 PG Curtis Jasper LSM Waynflete School NH Tomahawks
Loomis 2023 PG Duggan Joe Midfield Calvert Hall 2Way Lafayette
Loomis 2023 PG Stull Asher Attack / Midfield Colorado Academy Denver Elite High Point
NMH 2023 PG Carlson Logan New Canaan Hockey?
NMH 2023 PG Danso Ryan Attack Frederick Douglas Acad
NMH 2023 PG Swartwood Auggie LSM Lawrence Academy Fighting Clams Denison
Salisbury 2024 2025 Gibstein Cole FOGO North Shore / Deerfield TriState / Sweetlax
Salisbury 2025 2025 Kelley Cam Attack / Midfield Taft PrimeTime Notre Dame
Salisbury 2025 2025 Watson Finley Attack Culver / Deerfield Evolve Ohio State
Salisbury 2023 PG Clayton Tyler Midfield Acton-Boxborough, MA Laxachusetts UMass
Salisbury 2023 PG Flaherty Patrick Midfield Chaminade Team 91 Navy
Salisbury 2023 PG Hughes Billy Attack St Augustine Prep, NJ South Shore Cornell
Salisbury 2023 PG Rienzo Matthew Defense Gonzaga Madlax DC Dogs Georgetown
Taft 2024 2025 Jimenez Andrew Midfield Oak Hill, FL Sweetlax
Taft 2025 2025 Mullarhy Brendan Midfield Fairfield Prep Eclipse Notre Dame
Taft 2025 2026 Freeman Evan Defense Ramapo, NH PrimeTime
Taft 2026 2026 Hust Charlie MIdfield Collegiate School, VA Richmond Hawk/PT
Taft 2023 PG Jamin Luke Defense Rumson Fair Haven, NJ Leading Edge Virginia
Taft 2023 PG MacDonald Pearse Midfield Governors Laxachusetts Penn
Taft 2023 PG Reinhardt Chris Midfield Ridgefield, CT Eclipse Notre Dame
Taft 2023 PG Woloson Oscar Midfield Gilman School, MD FCA MD Harvard
Trinity Pawling 2023 PG Robinson Luke Midfield Christchurch, VA Evolve Cornell
Trinity Pawling 2023 PG Robinson Luke Midfield Christchurch, VA Evolve Cornell
Trinity Pawling 2023 PG Wolfington Matthew Midfield Radnor, PA NXT Towson
Trinity Pawling 2023 PG Wyman Sean Midfield Fayetteville, NY True National Bentley
Westminster 2025 2025 Andreski Jake Midfield Christian Bros, NJ Mad Dog
Westminster 2025 2026 Kraus AJ FOGO Hamburg, NY Orange Crush
Westminster 2026 2027 Grace Hunter Attack Catholic Memorial, MA Laxachusetts
Westminster 2023 PG Bulger Reid Midfield Simsbury, CT 3D NE South
Westminster 2023 PG Knight Drew Defense La Salle
Westminster 2023 PG Marschke Rhys Midfield Rippowam-Cisqua
Westminster 2023 PG O'Farrell Owen Attack Moses Brown 3D NE Syracuse
Westminster 2023 PG Walsh Aidan Attack / Midfield St Ignatius Alcatraz Outlaws

[pcowlax]

I may be reading it wrong, apologies if I am, but does the above list indicate that Deerfield has SEVEN PGs?

pcowlax, I could be wrong. I was trying to get a sense of who was on the roster last year vs this year so I was hoping for some intel from Deerfield fans. It is difficult to sometimes integrate PG's into your prrogram. Im not saying thats why Deerfield has had their 2 very close losses but one wonders if they were there for a year or 2, would these early season outcomes have been different.

Thanks, and fantastic work with the list. Loss of continuity and unexpected loss of playing time may well adversely impact a team bringing in so many players. I was surprised really because that is a LOT of PGs. West-1 has typically treated PGs as the cherry on top, the few final pieces (2-4) to take an already excellent team over the top. 7 PGs is getting too close to being the team and, in just my opinion, not in the spirit of how the system is supposed to work or fair to existing players on the team. My metric for too many is admittedly like Justice Stewart and obscenity but that is too many.

[justanotherperson]

Sorry - 1 last list for the week - upcoming games. Most notable games for me are (I will leave predictions for others):

-Brunswick v Darien: heard some injuries affecting Darien
-Brunswick v Loomis
-Albany Acad v Wilbraham & Monson in their 1st game
-Canterbury v Pomfret
-Gunnery v. Williston
-Hopkins and KO v St Lukes for the bottom of D2-Day Schools

Date Team Opponent Opponent Rec

Division 1
4/1 Salisbury Millbrook 2-0
4/2 AOF 1 Vandermont 4-3
4/3 Berkshire Deerfield 0-2
4/3 Choate Northfield Mt Hermon 1-1
4/3 Deerfield Berkshire 1-1
4/3 Hotchkiss Westminster 2-1
4/3 Kent South Kent
4/3 Loomis TP
4/3 Northfield Mt Hermon Choate 2-0
4/3 Taft Kiski 4-3
4/3 TP Loomis 3-0
4/3 Westminster Hotchkiss 1-1
4/4 Brunswick 1 Darien
4/5 Hotchkiss Millbrook 2-0
4/6 AOF Belmont Hill 2-0
4/6 Berkshire Salisbury 2-1
4/6 Brunswick 1 Loomis 3-0
4/6 Choate Kent 0-1
4/6 Deerfield Westminster 2-1
4/6 Hotchkiss Millbrook 2-0
4/6 Kent Choate 2-0
4/6 Loomis Brunswick 3-0
4/6 Northfield Mt Hermon Andover 3-0
4/6 Salisbury Berkshire 1-1
4/6 Taft TP
4/6 TP Taft 1-2
4/6 Westminster Deerfield 0-2

Division 2
4/1 Canterbury King 1-1
4/1 HH Harvey 2-0
4/1 King Canterbury
4/1 Millbrook Salisbury 2-1
4/2 Hopkins St Lukes
4/2 RCDS Masters
4/2 St Lukes Hopkins 0-1
4/3 Albany Acad Williston 1-1
4/3 Canterbury Salisbury 2
4/3 Cheshire Acad GCDS 0-1
4/3 GCDS Cheshire Acad 0-2
4/3 GFA Kingswood Oxford
4/3 King Suffield 0-1
4/3 KO GFA 0-1
4/3 Pomfret St Georges 1-0
4/3 Suffield Acad King 1-1
4/3 Williston Albany Academies 1-1
4/4 Brunswick 2 Darien
4/5 Brunswick 2 Cheshire Acad 0-2
4/5 Cheshire Acad Brunswick 2 1-0
4/5 HH South Kent
4/5 Millbrook Hotchkiss 1-1
4/5 RCDS Hackley
4/6 Albany Acad Wilbraham & Monson
4/6 Canterbury Pomfret 0-3
4/6 GCDS Fordham Prep
4/6 Gunnery Williston 1-1
4/6 King Wooster
4/6 KO St Lukes - Away
4/6 Pomfret Canterbury
4/6 St Lukes KO
4/6 Suffield Acad Worcester 0-1
4/6 Wilbraham Albany Academies 1-1
4/6 Williston Gunnery 1-1

Division 3
4/1 Forman Wooster
4/1 Harvey HH
4/1 Wooster Forman
4/2 Masters RCDS
4/3 Forman Harvey 2-0
4/3 Harvey Forman School
4/3 Marvelwood Storm King
4/3 South Kent Kent 0-1
4/3 Storm King Marvelwood
4/3 Williams Eagle Hill 0-1
4/5 South Kent HH
4/5 Williams Wooster
4/5 Wooster Williams
4/6 Forman Hoosac
4/6 Marvelwood Albany Academies JV
4/6 South Kent AOF2
4/6 Wooster King 1-1
4/7 Marvelwood Forman School

[justanotherperson]

I may be reading it wrong, apologies if I am, but does the above list indicate that Deerfield has SEVEN PGs?

pcowlax, I could be wrong. I was trying to get a sense of who was on the roster last year vs this year so I was hoping for some intel from Deerfield fans. It is difficult to sometimes integrate PG's into your prrogram. Im not saying thats why Deerfield has had their 2 very close losses but one wonders if they were there for a year or 2, would these early season outcomes have been different.

Thanks, and fantastic work with the list. Loss of continuity and unexpected loss of playing time may well adversely impact a team bringing in so many players. I was surprised really because that is a LOT of PGs. West-1 has typically treated PGs as the cherry on top, the few final pieces (2-4) to take an already excellent team over the top. 7 PGs is getting too close to being the team and, in just my opinion, not in the spirit of how the system is supposed to work or fair to existing players on the team. My metric for too many is admittedly like Justice Stewart and obscenity but that is too many.

I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the list but I would agree that if there is 7, that would seem a bit "obscene" in the eyes of Justice Stewart, Jon Stewart and even Patrick Stewart though Stewie from family guy may approve. Maybe it is possible that they were not comfortable with the growth of the underclassmen yet and felt they needed another year. Pure speculation on my part but I do hope it is not the beginning of an already unequal arms race for more PG's. L'ville seems to do OK without them though assuredly the majority of their top players are reclassed.

[justanotherperson]

More corrections - thanks to those who provided the info. Sorry to gum up the forum with giant lists

More Corrections to the "transfer portal / PG" list

PREP PRIOR YR CURRENT YR POSITION PREV TOWN / SCHOOL CLUB COMMITMENT 24/25
AOF 2024 2025 Benerofe Jonathan Attack St Ignatius Sweetlax
AOF 2023 PG Cronin Connor Midfield Marblehead, MA Laxachusetts Princeton (football)
AOF 2023 PG Granara Robbie Attack Reading, MA NE Twisters UMass
AOF 2023 PG Ready Griffin Goalie Xaverian Laxachusetts
AOF 2023 PG Wu Kaelin LSM Hopkins School Dragons Michigan (not lacrosse)
Berkshire 2025 2026 Boren Eli Attack Mamoroneck, NY Predators
Berkshire 2026 2027 Holbrough James Attack Brighton, NY Sweetlax Upstate
Berkshire 2023 PG Turowsky Jack Midfield Northfield Mount Hermon Piatelli UMass
Choate 2025 2025 Shilling Alexander Goalie Millbrook ADVNC San Fran
Choate 2025 2026 Privateer Bryce Attack / Midfield Frontier, NY 3D Upstate
Choate 2023 PG Greenhaw Tommy Midfield Rye, NY 2Way
Choate 2023 PG Kosicki Max Attack Concord-Carlisle, MA Fighting Clams Bates
Deerfield 2024 2025 Haskell PJ Attack Cold Spring Harbor, NY LI Express
Deerfield 2024 2025 Ramsey Grant Defense Culver Juiced Cherries Denver
Deerfield 2023 PG Buonanno Peter Attack Moses Brown 3D NE Princeton
Deerfield 2023 PG Muir Watt Attack Kincaid, TX Iron Horse Denver
Deerfield 2023 PG Prissert Noah Defense Oxbridge Academy, FL Sweetlax FL Brown
Deerfield 2023 PG Schwartz Thomas Defense Nobles Laxachusetts Middlebury
Deerfield 2023 2024 Tolve John Midfield Duxbury, MA Laxachusetts
Deerfield 2023 PG Vogel Raph Midfield Milton Academy 3D NE Williams
Deerfield 2023 PG Wood Ben Defense Belmont Hill 3D NE Georgetown
Hotchkiss 2025 2025 Carle Grant FOGO Manalapan, NJ TriState Army
Hotchkiss 2024 2025 Finster Reid Midfield Pelham, NY Team 91
Hotchkiss 2024 2025 Laganza Jack LSM Hopkins School 2Way
Hotchkiss 2023 PG Lehrman Andrew Goalie Scarsdale, NY Predators Colgate
Hotchkiss 2023 PG McCummings Liam Defense Poly Prep Day LI Sting / Express
Hotchkiss 2023 PG Ornstein Ryan Midfield Scarsdale, NY Predators Colgate
Loomis 2023 2024 Hobot Joe FOGO Smithtown East, NY True Nat / Annapolis Johns Hopkins
Loomis 2024 2024 Sheffield Brenton LSM Tabor 3D Upstate Penn --> Ohio State
Loomis 2024 2025 Macpherson Nate Defense PIttsford, NY 3D Upstate / Hilltop Villanova
Loomis 2025 2025 O' Keefe Liam Goalie Bishop Guertin NH Tomahawks Harvard
Loomis 2025 2026 Rodriguez Jayden Midfield Spencerport, NY Nations Best/Hilltop
Loomis 2026 2027 Griffin Hayes Defense Hebron Christian, GA 3D Georgia
Loomis 2023 PG Curtis Jasper LSM Waynflete School NH Tomahawks
Loomis 2023 PG Duggan Joe Midfield Calvert Hall 2Way Lafayette
Loomis 2023 PG Stull Asher Attack / Midfield Colorado Academy Denver Elite High Point
NMH 2023 PG Carlson Logan New Canaan Hockey?
NMH 2023 PG Danso Ryan Attack Frederick Douglas Acad
NMH 2023 PG Swartwood Auggie LSM Lawrence Academy Fighting Clams Denison
Salisbury 2024 2025 Gibstein Cole FOGO North Shore / Deerfield TriState / Sweetlax
Salisbury 2025 2025 Kelley Cam Attack / Midfield Taft PrimeTime Notre Dame
Salisbury 2025 2025 Watson Finley Attack Culver / Deerfield Evolve Ohio State
Salisbury 2023 PG Clayton Tyler Midfield Acton-Boxborough, MA Laxachusetts UMass
Salisbury 2023 PG Flaherty Patrick Midfield Chaminade Team 91 Navy
Salisbury 2023 PG Hughes Billy Attack St Augustine Prep, NJ South Shore Cornell
Salisbury 2023 PG Rienzo Matthew Defense Gonzaga Madlax DC Dogs Georgetown
Taft 2024 2025 Jimenez Andrew Midfield Oak Hill, FL Sweetlax
Taft 2025 2025 Mullarhy Brendan Midfield Fairfield Prep Eclipse Notre Dame
Taft 2025 2026 Freeman Evan Defense Ramapo, NH PrimeTime
Taft 2026 2026 Hust Charlie MIdfield Collegiate School, VA Richmond Hawk/PT
Taft 2023 PG Jamin Luke Defense Rumson Fair Haven, NJ Leading Edge Virginia
Taft 2023 PG MacDonald Pearse Midfield Governors Laxachusetts Penn
Taft 2023 PG Reinhardt Chris Midfield Ridgefield, CT Eclipse Notre Dame
Taft 2023 PG Woloson Oscar Midfield Gilman School, MD FCA MD Harvard
Trinity Pawling 2023 PG Robinson Luke Midfield Christchurch, VA Evolve Cornell
Trinity Pawling 2023 PG Robinson Luke Midfield Christchurch, VA Evolve Cornell
Trinity Pawling 2023 PG Wolfington Matthew Midfield Radnor, PA NXT Towson
Trinity Pawling 2023 PG Wyman Sean Midfield Fayetteville, NY True National Bentley
Westminster 2025 2025 Andreski Jake Midfield Christian Bros, NJ Mad Dog
Westminster 2025 2026 Kraus AJ FOGO Hamburg, NY Orange Crush
Westminster 2026 2027 Grace Hunter Attack Catholic Memorial, MA Laxachusetts
Westminster 2023 PG Bulger Reid Midfield Simsbury, CT 3D NE South
Westminster 2023 PG Knight Drew Defense La Salle
Westminster 2023 PG Marschke Rhys Midfield Rippowam-Cisqua
Westminster 2023 PG O'Farrell Owen Attack Moses Brown 3D NE Syracuse
Westminster 2023 PG Walsh Aidan Attack / Midfield St Ignatius Alcatraz Outlaws

[Laxxal22]

I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the list but I would agree that if there is 7, that would seem a bit "obscene" in the eyes of Justice Stewart, Jon Stewart and even Patrick Stewart though Stewie from family guy may approve.

Stewy from "Succession" would not be into it. He seems like the type of guy who lost his starting job to a PG his senior year and then made sure he ruined the guy's life once they got into the corporate world.

[Sportin' Life]

I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the list but I would agree that if there is 7, that would seem a bit "obscene" in the eyes of Justice Stewart, Jon Stewart and even Patrick Stewart though Stewie from family guy may approve. Maybe it is possible that they were not comfortable with the growth of the underclassmen yet and felt they needed another year. Pure speculation on my part but I do hope it is not the beginning of an already unequal arms race for more PG's. L'ville seems to do OK without them though assuredly the majority of their top players are reclassed.

The PG arms race has been well underway for years in NEW1. It is dominated by a certain subset of schools but, as your list indicates, it's going on at almost all of them. (Brunswick of course is the exception.) L'ville is able to compete at a high level without them (as has been claimed by other posters) thanks to Tsai's largesse and Posner's reputation. It'll be interesting to track how long those two factors remain significant enough to allow the Big Red to choose not to field lax PGs.

[MA Lax Fan]

How do the kids / parents handle losing playing time to PG’s?

[justanotherperson]

How do the kids / parents handle losing playing time to PG’s?

I dont think there is blanket reaction but as the arms race continues to escalate it will become similar to the Transfer Portal in college where kids will start moving from school to school if their playing time is affected. But I suspect the reaction will be very dependent on (and not in that order):

-the parent
-the kid
-how the coach handles it
-whether or not the need for a PG at that position was needed / overall depth

[3rdPersonPlural]

How do the kids / parents handle losing playing time to PG’s?

I've been following NEWest for 20 years now, and usually PG's come in when a team lacks an important piece.

As a parent, if the coach told me that 'your kid will have a miserable year on this team in this league, so we're admitted an all american as a PG who can help your kid and keep his position from hurting the other kids' efforts', I'd be relieved.

[Finster]

How do the kids / parents handle losing playing time to PG’s?

I've been following NEWest for 20 years now, and usually PG's come in when a team lacks an important piece.

As a parent, if the coach told me that 'your kid will have a miserable year on this team in this league, so we're admitted an all american as a PG who can help your kid and keep his position from hurting the other kids' efforts', I'd be relieved.

I’d ask for my money back.

[Laxxal22]

L'ville is able to compete at a high level without them (as has been claimed by other posters) thanks to Tsai's largesse and Posner's reputation. It'll be interesting to track how long those two factors remain significant enough to allow the Big Red to choose not to field lax PGs.

I wonder if it might go the other way, as integrating more PGs perhaps provides diminishing returns and more top players are looking to reclass and transfer earlier on. I have to imagine senioritis must run rampant with PGs. Especially in the age of social media and seeing all of their friends doing college stuff. If you get a reclass junior who spends two years at the school, he's probably a bit more invested.

[justanotherperson]

L'ville is able to compete at a high level without them (as has been claimed by other posters) thanks to Tsai's largesse and Posner's reputation. It'll be interesting to track how long those two factors remain significant enough to allow the Big Red to choose not to field lax PGs.

I wonder if it might go the other way, as integrating more PGs perhaps provides diminishing returns and more top players are looking to reclass and transfer earlier on. I have to imagine senioritis must run rampant with PGs. Especially in the age of social media and seeing all of their friends doing college stuff. If you get a reclass junior who spends two years at the school, he's probably a bit more invested.

I would agree 100% with this. Having talked to parents who are faced with decisions like this, I always say reclass is much better than being a PG because you spend more years with a team (it is more costly). But you get to play extra years against younger competition and your recruiting window is reset by one year as well. PG recruiting (for D1, not D2-3) is mostly over before the school year starts.

It doesnt make sense to PG as an unrecruited player because the lacrosse season starts long after most college decisions have already been made.It only makes sense to PG if you already have a commitment and the college needs to stash you somewhere for whatever reason (roster management, maturity, academic improvement, etc). And the senioritis is real. Many of the fall (Football) and Winter (hockey, basketball) dont even finish out the year at the PG school especially for football to get ready for Spring Football with their college.

[Sportin' Life]

IL's Dan Kaplan interviews LC coach Bill Ball on the Pelicans' season to-date, key players and the challenges that lie ahead: https://audioboom.com/posts/8483066-4-3 ... -bill-ball.

[grelch]

Loomis looked good against Salisbury, particularly defensively. Salisbury had a big run in the 3rd which can happen, but for the most part the Knights had a difficult time breaking the LC defense down. Sarum moved the ball quickly around the perimeter but had a difficult time getting the ball inside. To me LC looked like a team that has been playing together for a while. I don't know if that's the case, whether they're returning a lot of players, but to me it looked like they understood each other and their system well. That's impressive when you consider the degree to which they were dominated on Face Offs. Wamabach must have got a lot of reps in the offseason with his older brother because he dominated FOs like his older brother used to. Ans Salisbury's goalie looked very good too. I think this game wouldn't have been as close were it not for him. Bottom line from someone that knows little about both programs, to me LC looked more settled than Salisbury. Both teams clearly have talent, and I would imagine Salisbury will find their rhythm before too long. LC already look like they have their groove early.

[ausus]

LC up 8-2 vs. TP after 1 qtr... LC still missing a few key players but seems like it's not slowing them down. Defense looks great. Offense is in-sync. Wouldn't count TP out but will be a tough hill to climb.

[ausus]

LC up 8-2 vs. TP after 1 qtr... LC still missing a few key players but seems like it's not slowing them down. Defense looks great. Offense is in-sync. Wouldn't count TP out but will be a tough hill to climb.

LC holds on 13-9 over TP

[Sportin' Life]

LC hung on but TP showed a lot of fight in 2Q and took all of the momentum into the half. After being down 8 - 2 at the end of 1Q, the Pride stormed back to make it 8 - 7 at the midway point. LC took control in the second half on what was a bitingly cold, wet and windy day. The Pelicans were missing their FOGO again today (along with two key offensive players) so the fact that they were able to battle TP's FOGOs (Penn State and Fairfield commits) to a stalemate is noteworthy. An away game at Brunswick on Sat. will be a significant test with little room for error.

Other scores:

4/1: Salisbury beat Millbrook 14 - 8
4/2: AOF beat Vandermont 14 - 12
4/3: DA beat Berkshire 18 - 7
4/3: Taft beat Kiski 11 - 10 Rhinos were down 10 - 8 in 4Q and rallied.
4/3: Belmont Hill beat AOF 13 - 6
4/3: CRH - NMH Cancelled
4/3: Hotchkiss - Westminster Postponed