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10stone5 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:08 pm I was going to post this elsewhere,

those 1970s coaches were outstanding, Ciccarone at Hopkins, Beardmore at Maryland, Moran at Cornell, Simmons Jr was starting to build that Syracuse dynamo.

Interesting that two succumbed to the non-stop pressure, in my view, where you almost had to be perfect to win a title during that decade - with Ciccarone and Beardmore moving on from coaching.

OCanada wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:12 pm

10stone5 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:08 pm I was going to post this elsewhere,

those 1970s coaches were outstanding, Ciccarone at Hopkins, Beardmore at Maryland, Moran at Cornell, Simmons Jr was starting to build that Syracuse dynamo.

Interesting that two succumbed to the non-stop pressure, in my view, where you almost had to be perfect to win a title during that decade - with Ciccarone and Beardmore moving on from coaching.

Chic was Hopkins best. 7 consecutive title games. Chic didn’t exactly move on from Coaching. He had very serious gealth issues he had to deal with

molo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:31 pm Lars Tiffany for UVA. He took over a declining program and missed the NCAAT his first year. Second year took them back to the tournament but lost to Loyola in the first round. Next season opened with at Loyola and finished as NC, beating the defending NC. Covid wiped out the next year. Won the NC again in 2021. Lost in QFs to NC Maryland in 2022. Lost in OT to NC ND in semis.
Starsia amassed a slew of wins along with four NCs but also presided over a period of decline. Prior to hhs arrival, the school had its share of exceptional teams but a bit of a history of inconsistency occasional underachievement.
I don’t know Tiffany and I graduated quite a while ago, but it seems that there has been a shift in the “culture,” to use a term that i associated with the arts but has become a catchall term for behavior among athletes. My sense is that he has transformed a program that at times has placed “fun” over discipline into a somewhat more focused entity, no easy feat.

wrapcheque wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:43 pm And how many coaches can be named/considered for more than one Division I program besides Tierney?
Emmer, Army/W&L?

molo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:31 pm Lars Tiffany for UVA. He took over a declining program and missed the NCAAT his first year. Second year took them back to the tournament but lost to Loyola in the first round. Next season opened with at Loyola and finished as NC, beating the defending NC. Covid wiped out the next year. Won the NC again in 2021. Lost in QFs to NC Maryland in 2022. Lost in OT to NC ND in semis.
Starsia amassed a slew of wins along with four NCs but also presided over a period of decline. Prior to hhs arrival, the school had its share of exceptional teams but a bit of a history of inconsistency occasional underachievement.
I don’t know Tiffany and I graduated quite a while ago, but it seems that there has been a shift in the “culture,” to use a term that i associated with the arts but has become a catchall term for behavior among athletes. My sense is that he has transformed a program that at times has placed “fun” over discipline into a somewhat more focused entity, no easy feat.

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:03 pm

wrapcheque wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:43 pm And how many coaches can be named/considered for more than one Division I program besides Tierney?
Emmer, Army/W&L?

Good call. Starsia at Brown and Virginia. And maybe Pressler at Duke and Bryant.

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:22 pm

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:03 pm

wrapcheque wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:43 pm And how many coaches can be named/considered for more than one Division I program besides Tierney?
Emmer, Army/W&L?

Good call. Starsia at Brown and Virginia. And maybe Pressler at Duke and Bryant.

Urick.....both for Hobart, and for G'town.

wrapcheque wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:43 pm And how many coaches can be named/considered for more than one Division I program besides Tierney?
Emmer, Army/W&L?

OSVAlacrosse wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:14 pm

wrapcheque wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:43 pm And how many coaches can be named/considered for more than one Division I program besides Tierney?
Emmer, Army/W&L?

McMinn

In 1965, tragedy struck when two Big Red assistant lacrosse coaches were killed when their plane crashed on the way home from a recruiting trip. Harkness was called upon to assist head lacrosse coach Bob Cullen, and the next year, after Cullen stepped down, Harkness was made the new head coach of Big Red lacrosse at the request of his players. Over his three years leading the lacrosse team, he posted a 35-1 record and won a pair of Ivy League titles that were sandwiched around a runner-up finish.

faircornell wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:49 pm Cornell has had several great coaches, many of whom are still active. I've listed them by the number of wins for coaches over.500:

Richie Moran: 257-121 (.680)
Jeff Tambroni: 109-39 (.736)
Jim Smith: 75-56-2 (.571)
Ben DeLuca: 37-11 (.771)
Ned Harkness: 35-1 (.972)
Matt Kerwick: 32-26 (.552)
Pete Milliman: 28-10 (.736)
Connor Buczek: 25-9 (.7325)
Dave Pietramala23-17 (.576)

Aside from Coach Moran, I'd rate Coaches Harkness and Tambroni as true "greats" at Cornell. I'd rank Coaches DeLuca, Milliman and Buczek as possible greats with added time. Coach Pietramala was obviously great as a player and coach at JHU.

OCanada wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:58 pm Petro started the rebuild of the Cornell lax program

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:22 pm

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:03 pm

wrapcheque wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:43 pm And how many coaches can be named/considered for more than one Division I program besides Tierney?
Emmer, Army/W&L?

Good call. Starsia at Brown and Virginia. And maybe Pressler at Duke and Bryant.

Urick.....both for Hobart, and for G'town.

10stone5 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 9:50 pm Ned Harkness

35 wins, one loss !!!

Sheesh !

In 1965, tragedy struck when two Big Red assistant lacrosse coaches were killed when their plane crashed on the way home from a recruiting trip. Harkness was called upon to assist head lacrosse coach Bob Cullen, and the next year, after Cullen stepped down, Harkness was made the new head coach of Big Red lacrosse at the request of his players. Over his three years leading the lacrosse team, he posted a 35-1 record and won a pair of Ivy League titles that were sandwiched around a runner-up finish.