Re: York 2024
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:48 pm
100% AQ or bust. Get the psyche right, and ruin someone’s tournament dreams early.
hard to figure out. is it the players not performing? is it york missing the 4 offensive players that transferred out. is the new offensive coach in over his head ? is it the head coach? what ever it is, this team has no consistency or rhythm. seems like there is a different lineup each week. players being swapped out of early in the game. players that never saw any time, getting starts. it doesn’t seem like the coaches have any faith in the offense. i will never understand why this team doesn’t start the 6 best players. ( i say this because starters come off the field for the emo).MacAttack wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:59 pm Really not sure what to say or think after this one. That was one of the flattest offensive performances I’ve seen out of this team in a long time. Bad games happen, but this offensive group needs to dig deep and decide if they still have the fire to back up the winning tradition that is York Lacrosse. Efforts like that against mediocore teams at best will not get it done.
i have to agree here. offense doesn’t seem to have a plan. lots of 1v1. inconsistent lineups that never give the players a change to get familiar with each other. which leads to little passing and lots of 1v1. defense (and coaching) don’t seem to have any confidence with the offense considering they moved and Dmiddie to offense and he is leading the team in goals.
Jumping from graduation to lead coordinator is something York has always done (likely because they can’t pay enough for someone outside of the program) . Kaplan, Whitcher, Kennedy and now Wilhelm. It doesn’t seem to be coaching as the offense can only change so much from one year ago. To me, the older guys haven’t had their usual showings, and the younger guys haven’t stepped up. Scoring, Faceoffs, goalie play. Grove City game especially, there were PLENTY of scoring opportunities. A coach can’t do that last past for them.Laxattackjack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:59 ami have to agree here. offense doesn’t seem to have a plan. lots of 1v1. inconsistent lineups that never give the players a change to get familiar with each other. which leads to little passing and lots of 1v1. defense (and coaching) don’t seem to have any confidence with the offense considering they moved and Dmiddie to offense and he is leading the team in goals.
i would be curious how many players jump right from graduation to lead coordinator in less then a season, and have success. it has to be hard to change from friend/teammate, to coach. how would he tell the grad kids to make adjustments? would they listen?
There is a huge falloff with the offense this season without Drenner. The offense looks insanely flat footed. With Drenner coaching, consistent movement and cuts were way more common. I agree with the 1v1 play. It almost seems like York is back to high school lacrosse where one guy plays hero ball and the rest of the 5 are just cows in the grass. But that guy changes every play.Laxattackjack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:59 ami have to agree here. offense doesn’t seem to have a plan. lots of 1v1. inconsistent lineups that never give the players a change to get familiar with each other. which leads to little passing and lots of 1v1. defense (and coaching) don’t seem to have any confidence with the offense considering they moved and Dmiddie to offense and he is leading the team in goals.
i would be curious how many players jump right from graduation to lead coordinator in less then a season, and have success. it has to be hard to change from friend/teammate, to coach. how would he tell the grad kids to make adjustments? would they listen?
I agree that it is likely York will still make the tournament, but will that be considered a successful season if they lose in the first or second round of the tournament? This is a team who was top 12 in preseason and is now 2-6. Granted they have one of the harder schedules in the country, I am sure they are very disappointed with how things have played out. They have a chance to get a good win against Gettysburg in a few games. Unless they can make it to the second weekend of NCAA’s, this was a disappointing season for the Spartans.YCOLaxFanSU wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:50 pm His departure was downplayed a bit in the summer but I think Mayer transferring out was a big loss and if he were still on the team they may only have 1 or 2 losses at this point. I see he is tied for 2nd in points at Ohio State and has started a number of games.
Grove City is a good team but this loss doesn't feel like the others and we are just about 2 months into a 3 month regular season.
Having said that, I am confident York will win out and get the AQ.
I don't hate that lineup, but there must be more to it than that. I mean, that has to oversimply the problem...doesn't it? For example, some of the SOG% and shot/goal percentages of at least one of the players above are pretty low right now. You always want to get your best players on the field, but maybe the problem is in identifying who those "best players" are right now, not based on last year stats. There's more to it than just the points someone puts up, but that does play a big part in it. As others have pointed out, it's hard to tell what the identity of this offense is supposed to be, so guessing who should fill which role is difficult.Laxattackjack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:02 pm completely agree with getting the top 8 or 9 on the field and the team will improve.
my top 9
2,28,44 attack. rotate 52 in.
7,13,26 mid
22,31 rotate in
this gets your top players on the field. it also gets all of your emo players involved instead of expecting 2 and 52 to come in cold for emo
Yes. In the games I’ve been able to watch parts of, most recently Grove City, it has looked like Facciponti was being called for a disproportionately large number of FO violations. It has stood out to me so much so that I’m starting to wonder if he is doing something different, or is a part of his repertoire something that is now being cracked down on for this year. It has been noticeable and significant, especially in those 1 goal games where one possession has the potential to determine the outcome.
End of 2015. That year they started the season ranked #11, and had 7 games with a 3 goal differential or less. Sounds sort of familiar to me… Looking back, there’s been plenty of years where they won most of those close games. But as someone said on the NESCAC thread, when you play a ton of close games, it usually will work its way back to the median at some point.
i don’t see anything to panic about. 6 losses is bad. but york has 5 losses to top 6/7 teams and 3 are by a goal. i don’t think anyone expected York to be a top 7 team, so none of those losses should be shocking. the grove city loss was not expected. York can win these next two games and turn the season around. but it all starts with Denison.DeepPocket wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:54 amEnd of 2015. That year they started the season ranked #11, and had 7 games with a 3 goal differential or less. Sounds sort of familiar to me… Looking back, there’s been plenty of years where they won most of those close games. But as someone said on the NESCAC thread, when you play a ton of close games, it usually will work its way back to the median at some point.
Worth noting that they rebounded the very next year in 2016, worked their way back into the top 10 rankings, and went on to the elite 8 in the NCAAs (dropping in OT to Gettysburg). Just food for thought for the ”the sky is falling” crowd.
Battle of the Underdogs. York was a shot away from being 2-7 instead of 3-6. I understand that Yorks schedule was fierce but the team I saw beat W&L by a goal before they are now missing 4 starters I thought was very good. I just know this is NOT a team I’d want to play in the ncaa tournament this year if they get in. Would not be shocked if they were to beat Gettysburg who is weak at the dotDeepPocket wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:01 pm The heart-attack kids had themselves another 1 goal game, though this one a much needed win, topping Denison 10-9. Denison’s goalie really did a great job, 16 saves, picked off passes when on the 10 man etc. Kid battled.
Quick turnaround before Gettysburg on Wednesday.