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Limestone beats LR 14-8 in SAC Tourney Championship!!

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 7:06 pm
by BirdsEyeView
For the second time in three days Limestone beats a top-five team, this time No.5 LR to win the 2023 SAC Tournament Title!! Saints have all but locked up a D2 tourney spot!!

Limestone hosts Belmont Abbey Friday (7PM) on Senior Night !!

Re: Limestone beats LR 14-8 in SAC Tourney Championship!!

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 7:33 pm
by Laxwarrior
That was an impressive come from behind win. Down 4-6 at 13:44 in the 3rd. went on 4-0 run, then a 6-0 run after LR scored as single goal. Outscored LR 10-3 in the 2nd half.

Where did this defense come from?

Re: Limestone beats LR 14-8 in SAC Tourney Championship!!

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 7:35 pm
by Laxwarrior
Does the margin of victory help them jump over LR or Wingate in the power rankings?

Re: Limestone beats LR 14-8 in SAC Tourney Championship!!

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 7:35 pm
by cowboylax
Kevin Reisman! That’s who!

Re: Limestone beats LR 14-8 in SAC Tourney Championship!!

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 7:39 pm
by HoundsDad
Heck of a run by Limestone, after Rollins at #1 in the south, I think they are all interchangeable from 2-6

Re: Limestone beats LR 14-8 in SAC Tourney Championship!!

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 7:44 pm
by BirdsEyeView
Not sure when voting for this weeks region rankings closed so I’m not sure if the L-R game will be factored into this weeks ratings.

Re: Limestone beats LR 14-8 in SAC Tourney Championship!!

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 7:58 pm
by Laxwarrior
BirdsEyeView wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 7:44 pm Not sure when voting for this weeks region rankings closed so I’m not sure if the L-R game will be factored into this weeks ratings.
I was talking about the regional rankings. Wonder if they held off reporting to get this championship game in the rankings. https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/lacrosse- ... l-rankings

Re: Limestone beats LR 14-8 in SAC Tourney Championship!!

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 8:05 pm
by HoundsDad
Yes, good point, last Wed regional rankings were through Sundays games so odds are good they don't include the Limestone/LR game.

Re: Limestone beats LR 14-8 in SAC Tourney Championship!!

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 8:13 pm
by Laxwarrior
HoundsDad wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 8:05 pm Yes, good point, last Wed rankings were through Sundays games so odds are good they don't include the Limestone/LR game.
USILA rankings are out today
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Re: Limestone beats LR 14-8 in SAC Tourney Championship!!

Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 10:08 pm
by RedFromMI
KRACH update for top 20 after that Stone win:

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Rank	Team			KRACH	RRWP	W	L	Region
 1	Le Moyne		71750.2	0.990	14	0	N
 2	Rollins			 7948.4	0.926	15	1	S
 3	Adelphi			 6690.1	0.916	15	2	N
 4	Indianapolis		 4288.1	0.888	11	2	S
 5	Wingate			 4167.7	0.881	12	2	S
 6	Saint Anselm		 3556.8	0.875	 9	3	N
 7	Lenoir-Rhyne		 3122.9	0.865	14	3	S
 8	Limestone		 3110.9	0.865	14	4	S
 9	Mercyhurst		 2834.4	0.857	12	2	N
10	Mercy			 2834.3	0.857	12	3	N
11	Bentley			 2368.7	0.842	 9	4	N
12	Tampa			 1981.3	0.826	13	3	S
13	Pace			 1874.6	0.821	11	4	N
14	Colorado Mesa		 1432.6	0.796	13	2	S
15	Florida Southern	 1152.5	0.774	12	5	S
16	Newberry	 	 1085.2	0.767	11	5	S
17	Anderson (SC)		  904.7	0.748	12	6	S
18	Seton Hill		  832.9	0.739	11	4	N
19	Belmont Abbey		  498.0	0.678	10	4	S
20	Frostburg State		  464.9	0.670	12	4	N
 

Re: Limestone beats LR 14-8 in SAC Tourney Championship!!

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 7:52 am
by Laxwarrior
Good stuff as always Red!

The limestone win moved Lenoir Rhyne down but Limestone still at 5.

If you were to guess. What would a Limestone win over Belmont Abbey do to the rankings? What would a loss do? does the spread final score matter?

are there any other games that matter left in the south? Uindy plays Lewis. Colrado Mesa plays adams state. I don't think Rollins, Wingate, LR and Tampa have any games on the schedule.

Re: Limestone beats LR 14-8 in SAC Tourney Championship!!

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 9:17 am
by RedFromMI
Laxwarrior wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 7:52 am Good stuff as always Red!

The limestone win moved Lenoir Rhyne down but Limestone still at 5.

If you were to guess. What would a Limestone win over Belmont Abbey do to the rankings? What would a loss do? does the spread final score matter?

are there any other games that matter left in the south? Uindy plays Lewis. Colrado Mesa plays adams state. I don't think Rollins, Wingate, LR and Tampa have any games on the schedule.
I ran a what-if and just put in wins for Stone, Mesa and Indy. Flipped Stone above LR. Moved nothing else in the top 20 except flip BA and Frostburg (19/20 to 20/19).

Big caveat - I usually get most of the field, but often miss on the seedings as my ratings are an all-in-one approach to determine who actually had the best season. Not quite the process of the much more complicated (with lots of moving parts) NCAA system.

The Wednesday rankings will go a long way toward clarity as the only topic of concern then on Sunday for the final rankings is whether any of the three games you mentioned really changed anything.

Re: Limestone beats LR 14-8 in SAC Tourney Championship!!

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 9:30 am
by HoundsDad
UIndy has the GLVC tourney. Lewis on Sat and if they advance the winner of Rockhurst/Maryville on Sunday. Always tough game when in conference tourney.

Re: Limestone beats LR 14-8 in SAC Tourney Championship!!

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 11:03 am
by RedFromMI
HoundsDad wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 9:30 am UIndy has the GLVC tourney. Lewis on Sat and if they advance the winner of Rockhurst/Maryville on Sunday. Always tough game when in conference tourney.
A loss for Indy this weekend probably would do nothing but lower their seed, but would not knock them out of the tourney. Lewis, Rockhurst and Maryville are all in the top 30.

Re: Limestone beats LR 14-8 in SAC Tourney Championship!!

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 11:17 am
by HoundsDad
That is my thought, UIndy struggled with Lewis and Maryville during the season and Rockhurst beat them both, so can't take any team for granted at this point.
It would be nice for UIndy to stay in the 2-3 seed range as it has been a long time since some of the top South teams make the trip to Indy, it seems like we are always traveling to play them. I can see any of the 6 teams in the south making the trip to Philly. It is going to be a fun tourney. Go Hounds!

Re: Limestone beats LR 14-8 in SAC Tourney Championship!!

Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 7:06 am
by GaitsRightHand
HoundsDad wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 11:17 am That is my thought, UIndy struggled with Lewis and Maryville during the season and Rockhurst beat them both, so can't take any team for granted at this point.
It would be nice for UIndy to stay in the 2-3 seed range as it has been a long time since some of the top South teams make the trip to Indy, it seems like we are always traveling to play them. I can see any of the 6 teams in the south making the trip to Philly. It is going to be a fun tourney. Go Hounds!
Rockhurst also just lost to Davenport...