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2023 Fantasy Lacrosse Draft

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The Draft will start on Wednesday, October 19. The Draft, as usual, is serpentine and the order is:

1- farfromgeneva
2- ChopSticks
3- Keoni007
4- Maddog
5- GreenieLax
6- GenghiskhanBluejay
7- CalLaxDad
8- GCCLax
9- Typical Lax Dad
10- Lax1
11- OCanada
12- NJLaxx11
13- UK Lax
14- Matnum PI
15- HipandKneeDoc
16- NC Lax
17- FCALax
18- DU-Fan
19- PA Talk
20- ohmilax34
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For the 2023 Season, we're dropping Fairfield, UMBC, and Hofstra. We'll be picking up Villanova, Brown, and Harvard.

For the coaches who have players from Fairfield, UMBC, and/or Hofstra squads, you will receive extra picks during the 2023 Draft. (Team Ds from 2022 do not count.) Which Round your pick will be during is based on the number of Points your to-be-dropped player had in 2022. So if your to-be-dropped players had X number of Points in 2022 (below), you will pick again at the end of the X Round.

24+ = 1st Round
16-23 = 2nd Round
9-15 = 3rd Round
5-8 = 4th Round
3-4 = 5th Round
2 = 6th Round
1 = 7th Round
0 = After Draft is completed.

These Draft numbers were selected by the player points of the Leading Scorers in 2022.

I believe that these are all the to-be-dropped players (below) as well as their grad year, Points in 2022, and Fantasy Team. Many are graduated Seniors but with Covid, I know better than to assume that they're graduating.

Nick Dupuis JR A UMBC 8 CalLaxDad
Gerard Kane SO A Hofstra 22 CalLaxDad
Patrick Drake SR A Fairfield 10 farfromgeneva
Jake Coleman SO A Fairfield 1 DU-Fan
Dylan McIntosh SR A Hofstra 12 FCALax
Taylor Strough SR M Fairfield 28 FCALax
Mikey Drake SR A/M Fairfield 27 GCCLaxster67
Brian Reda SR A Fairfield 0 Genghiskhanbluejay
Bryce Ford JR M Fairfield 10 Genghiskhanbluejay
Sam Lufti JR A Hofstra 6 Greenielax
Justin Sykes JR M Hofstra 6 NC Lax
Ryan Sheridan JR A Hofstra 8 NC Lax
Brandon Galloway SR M UMBC 2 ohmilax34 (transferred to Jacksonville)
Josh Tang FR A UMBC 4 ohmilax34
James Philbin SR M Hofstra 10 PA Talk
Dane Hall JR M UMBC 9 Typical Lax Dad

If you're one of the coaches (above) and you believe their are extenuating circumstances that should raise your to-be-dropped player to a lower Draft pick, feel free to chime in. Otherwise, this is how to-be-dropped players will be handled.
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Brandon Galloway transferred to Jacksonville, I believe. So, I will need a pick to make up for losing him, but not sure if it should follow your scale.
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ohmilax34 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:01 am Brandon Galloway transferred to Jacksonville, I believe. So, I will need a pick to make up for losing him, but not sure if it should follow your scale.
If Galloway, or any player, transfers to a non-eligible NCAA team, you don't get a replacement player. We compensate Fantasy Teams for lost points due to the league's actions. If a player transfers to an non-eligible NCAA team, those aren't considered lost points due to the league's actions.
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Matnum PI wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:24 am
ohmilax34 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:01 am Brandon Galloway transferred to Jacksonville, I believe. So, I will need a pick to make up for losing him, but not sure if it should follow your scale.
If Galloway, or any player, transfers to a non-eligible NCAA team, you don't get a replacement player. We compensate Fantasy Teams for lost points due to the league's actions. If a player transfers to an non-eligible NCAA team, those aren't considered lost points due to the league's actions.
Understood. He is one of my normal drops then, and I get a pick to take his spot on my roster. It looks like I will get a 6 draft picks in total, given who I lose from graduation, so it works out fine.
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FWIW, like last season's Draft, you don't need to drop your players before the Draft. You drop one player at the same time that you add one player.
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Matnum PI wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:43 am FWIW, like last season's Draft, you don't need to drop your players before the Draft. You drop one player at the same time that you add one player.
Gotcha, thanks!
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Matnum PI wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:42 am For the 2023 Season, we're dropping Fairfield, UMBC, and Hofstra. We'll be picking up Villanova, Brown, and Harvard.

For the coaches who have players from Fairfield, UMBC, and/or Hofstra squads, you will receive extra picks during the 2023 Draft. (Team Ds from 2022 do not count.) Which Round your pick will be during is based on the number of Points your to-be-dropped player had in 2022. So if your to-be-dropped players had X number of Points in 2022 (below), you will pick again at the end of the X Round.

24+ = 1st Round
16-23 = 2nd Round
9-15 = 3rd Round
5-8 = 4th Round
3-4 = 5th Round
2 = 6th Round
1 = 7th Round
0 = After Draft is completed.

These Draft numbers were selected by the player points of the Leading Scorers in 2022.

I believe that these are all the to-be-dropped players (below) as well as their grad year, Points in 2022, and Fantasy Team. Many are graduated Seniors but with Covid, I know better than to assume that they're graduating.

Nick Dupuis JR A UMBC 8 CalLaxDad
Gerard Kane SO A Hofstra 22 CalLaxDad
Patrick Drake SR A Fairfield 10 dfaganlax916
Jake Coleman SO A Fairfield 1 DU-Fan
Dylan McIntosh SR A Hofstra 12 FCALax
Taylor Strough SR M Fairfield 28 FCALax
Mikey Drake SR A/M Fairfield 27 GCCLaxster67
Brian Reda SR A Fairfield 0 Genghiskhanbluejay
Bryce Ford JR M Fairfield 10 Genghiskhanbluejay
Sam Lufti JR A Hofstra 6 Greenielax
Justin Sykes JR M Hofstra 6 NC Lax
Ryan Sheridan JR A Hofstra 8 NC Lax
Brandon Galloway SR M UMBC 2 ohmilax34 (transferred to Jacksonville)
Josh Tang FR A UMBC 4 ohmilax34
James Philbin SR M Hofstra 10 PA Talk
Dane Hall JR M UMBC 9 Typical Lax Dad

If you're one of the coaches (above) and you believe their are extenuating circumstances that should raise your to-be-dropped player to a lower Draft pick, feel free to chime in. Otherwise, this is how to-be-dropped players will be handled.
Mikey drake and Taylor Strough were both grad seniors and likely have no eligibility left so feels unfair someone gets a potential 4 year player of 1st round quality in lieu of them.. surely it needs to be a system of points combined with years left to play? A sophomore with 25+ points is more valuable then a senior for example
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Uklax wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:15 pmMikey drake and Taylor Strough were both grad seniors and likely have no eligibility left so feels unfair someone gets a potential 4 year player of 1st round quality in lieu of them.. surely it needs to be a system of points combined with years left to play? A sophomore with 25+ points is more valuable then a senior for example
If Drake and Strough have graduated, the relevant coaches will get nothing as replacements. The compensatory picks are to compensate coaches for players that were removed from their 2023 line-ups but only if those players would've actually been in their line-up.
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Uklax wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:15 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:42 am For the 2023 Season, we're dropping Fairfield, UMBC, and Hofstra. We'll be picking up Villanova, Brown, and Harvard.

For the coaches who have players from Fairfield, UMBC, and/or Hofstra squads, you will receive extra picks during the 2023 Draft. (Team Ds from 2022 do not count.) Which Round your pick will be during is based on the number of Points your to-be-dropped player had in 2022. So if your to-be-dropped players had X number of Points in 2022 (below), you will pick again at the end of the X Round.

24+ = 1st Round
16-23 = 2nd Round
9-15 = 3rd Round
5-8 = 4th Round
3-4 = 5th Round
2 = 6th Round
1 = 7th Round
0 = After Draft is completed.

These Draft numbers were selected by the player points of the Leading Scorers in 2022.

I believe that these are all the to-be-dropped players (below) as well as their grad year, Points in 2022, and Fantasy Team. Many are graduated Seniors but with Covid, I know better than to assume that they're graduating.

Nick Dupuis JR A UMBC 8 CalLaxDad
Gerard Kane SO A Hofstra 22 CalLaxDad
Patrick Drake SR A Fairfield 10 dfaganlax916
Jake Coleman SO A Fairfield 1 DU-Fan
Dylan McIntosh SR A Hofstra 12 FCALax
Taylor Strough SR M Fairfield 28 FCALax
Mikey Drake SR A/M Fairfield 27 GCCLaxster67
Brian Reda SR A Fairfield 0 Genghiskhanbluejay
Bryce Ford JR M Fairfield 10 Genghiskhanbluejay
Sam Lufti JR A Hofstra 6 Greenielax
Justin Sykes JR M Hofstra 6 NC Lax
Ryan Sheridan JR A Hofstra 8 NC Lax
Brandon Galloway SR M UMBC 2 ohmilax34 (transferred to Jacksonville)
Josh Tang FR A UMBC 4 ohmilax34
James Philbin SR M Hofstra 10 PA Talk
Dane Hall JR M UMBC 9 Typical Lax Dad

If you're one of the coaches (above) and you believe their are extenuating circumstances that should raise your to-be-dropped player to a lower Draft pick, feel free to chime in. Otherwise, this is how to-be-dropped players will be handled.
Mikey drake and Taylor Strough were both grad seniors and likely have no eligibility left so feels unfair someone gets a potential 4 year player of 1st round quality in lieu of them.. surely it needs to be a system of points combined with years left to play? A sophomore with 25+ points is more valuable then a senior for example
Agreed that we should really factor in years of eligibility remaining (and I don’t think I have players on any of these teams fwiw).
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It doesn't seem like there are very many players that had lots of points that we are really going to miss, maybe nobody besides Kane. I don't know if it's really worth it to factor in years of eligibility remaining. We also don't necessarily know how many years each player will play in their remaining eligibility because of the COVID year.
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ohmilax34 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:45 am
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:43 am FWIW, like last season's Draft, you don't need to drop your players before the Draft. You drop one player at the same time that you add one player.
Gotcha, thanks!
I think it is important that everyone does this consistently. Sometimes the dropped players are good pick ups for other owners.
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Lax1 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:24 pm ... Agreed that we should really factor in years of eligibility remaining...
I think the best way to do this is to add 50% of each player's 2022 Point to their 2022 Points for each (demonstrated) year of eligibility they have left. e.g. If a player had 10 Points their freshman year, they'd be valued at 10+5 (50% of 10)+5+5=25.
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DU-fan wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:18 pm I think it is important that everyone does this consistently. Sometimes the dropped players are good pick ups for other owners.
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Wish we respected the seasons and allowed lacrosse information to flow. I'm in but yea..
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PALax11 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:43 pm Wish we respected the seasons and allowed lacrosse information to flow. I'm in but yea..
I don't know what you mean here. You usually have insightful things to add, otherwise I wouldn't ask for clarification.
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Matnum PI wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:05 pm
Lax1 wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:24 pm ... Agreed that we should really factor in years of eligibility remaining...
I think the best way to do this is to add 50% of each player's 2022 Point to their 2022 Points for each (demonstrated) year of eligibility they have left. e.g. If a player had 10 Points their freshman year, they'd be valued at 10+5 (50% of 10)+5+5=25.
This mostly works as a scoring system actually but then I’d make the threshold for 1st round higher. A 1st round pick is pretty damn valuable. I wouldn’t say a final year senior scoring 25 is worth a potential freshman that COULD get a 25x 4 year score (obviously they can also get 0, but round 1 players often work out).
I’d say no player from the three teams we are discarding would be round 1 value tbh, maybe bar Taylor Strough as a freshman but never as a senior.
Maybe keep the score thresholds the same but 2nd round and down as the starting point? Then would probs be pretty fair from there.

Happily overruled/ignored on this, just my opinion, not strong feelings on this :)
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I don’t see the point ,given we draft and drop at the same time, to projecting any value onto a player. Projections ste not certain a player may leave school or transfer to snother school or suffer an ACL or concussion. If that happens and points added the owner should get nicked next draft. The squishy feely inputs. If there is an upside to using a projection, which there is, there should be a downside which there isn’t but should offset if the projection is overly optimistic.
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I dunno. A coach has a Hofstra (or whatever) player that he drafted 3 years ago that has putt up Points for 3 years, still has 1 more year of eligibility and, though no fault of his own, we just knock this player off the table. I dunno. This coach should be compensated for the loss.
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dfaganlax916 is stepping down from his coaching position and taking over the squad is... Farfromgeneva (and son).

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