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HooDat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:50 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:26 pm I've written a whole lot about DeSantis on a thread ole Petey began

Coming off a "sabbatical" so I haven't seen your views.

In thinking about DeSantis, it will touch on my views about governors and my admitted bias toward state power over federal.

Below I throw out a few observations to add a little spice into the pot, see where it takes us.

1. I tend to think that humans thrive locally
2. I believe that one of the things that has made the USA a great country is that we have historically benefited from bottom up governance with (up to) 50 states trying different things and then the other states being able to emulate best practices.
3. Starting with Lincoln, accelerating under FDR & Johnson and gaining even more momentum since Bush (Sr) the federal government has had more and more influence over people's daily lives
4. During that time, Congress has "delegated" more and more of it's authority to the Executive branch resulting in a lot more top-down rather than bottom up governing.
5. An increased disparity in the distribution of income and wealth has coincided with the shift to the increase in centralized power and top-down governing.
6. I believe our country would benefit from state governors being as important as the POTUS particularly when it comes to domestic matters.
7. I also believe that since a major flaw in democracy is that those who get power, had to desire and seek out power - the federal government is not going to willingly give up the power it has collected to itself.
8. Therefore, if more decision making is going to shift back to the states, it is going to require strong governors.

9. Could a state's rights person's strong governor be a federally inclined person's strongman?

To the extent DeSantis is a strong governor and not a strongman - there is a part of me that (even if I determined he was the best politician I knew) would rather see him stay in Florida to continue to (appropriately) be a burr under the saddle of the power hungry in the federal government.

HooDat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:11 pm The stalking of the judge who issued the warrant is as reprehensible as the protests at the homes of SCOTUS earlier this year.

I know there are nut-jobs out there, but can you not say you don't like the FBI without it turning into "you're going to insight shooters"?

Vigilantes and mob justice are BAD. Doesn't matter what side of the aisle you are on. But when people were talking about Hoover's tenure as head of the FBI, no one said it was going to cause violent attacks on FBI personnel or offices.

I thought everybody was on board with hating the IRS, the FBI, and Cable/Phone companies?

Is there NOTHING we can agree on anymore?

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:41 am If you ever listen to podcasts I’d encourage you to listen to this one.

HooDat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:25 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:41 am If you ever listen to podcasts I’d encourage you to listen to this one.

I do, and I will. Sounds right up my alley.

CU88 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:46 pm Bolton calling BS on MAGA host:

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/stat ... 6788339718

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:56 pm Hogan for President? Have not voted for him, but he has done a decent job for the State of Maryland. His biggest problem is his abortion stance, but he pledged prior to his assuming office he would not attempt to drive his preferred position in the State of Maryland. He largely honored his pledge (in recent months he has danced around that a little). He has been able to work, not totally, but acceptably with a legislature that can override him any time they want. He believes in the rule of law and the constitution. He is a real republican.

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:57 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:56 pm Hogan for President? Have not voted for him, but he has done a decent job for the State of Maryland. His biggest problem is his abortion stance, but he pledged prior to his assuming office he would not attempt to drive his preferred position in the State of Maryland. He largely honored his pledge (in recent months he has danced around that a little). He has been able to work, not totally, but acceptably with a legislature that can override him any time they want. He believes in the rule of law and the constitution. He is a real republican.

If he's a real Republican? I'd vote for him over Biden if for no other reason than to send a message to the Republican party that we'll vote for sane rational adults if you give us the chance. Completely serious.

a fan wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:57 pm

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:56 pm Hogan for President? Have not voted for him, but he has done a decent job for the State of Maryland. His biggest problem is his abortion stance, but he pledged prior to his assuming office he would not attempt to drive his preferred position in the State of Maryland. He largely honored his pledge (in recent months he has danced around that a little). He has been able to work, not totally, but acceptably with a legislature that can override him any time they want. He believes in the rule of law and the constitution. He is a real republican.

If he's a real Republican? I'd vote for him over Biden if for no other reason than to send a message to the Republican party that we'll vote for sane rational adults if you give us the chance. Completely serious.

Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:46 am This is nice:

https://www.denverpost.com/2022/08/12/l ... denverpost

https://m.soundcloud.com/denverpost/lis ... er-mailbox

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:42 am

HooDat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:11 pm The stalking of the judge who issued the warrant is as reprehensible as the protests at the homes of SCOTUS earlier this year.

I know there are nut-jobs out there, but can you not say you don't like the FBI without it turning into "you're going to insight shooters"?

Vigilantes and mob justice are BAD. Doesn't matter what side of the aisle you are on. But when people were talking about Hoover's tenure as head of the FBI, no one said it was going to cause violent attacks on FBI personnel or offices.

I thought everybody was on board with hating the IRS, the FBI, and Cable/Phone companies?

Is there NOTHING we can agree on anymore?

Once a year we all come together!

Call me Silky

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fKIwj1TQmFs

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:32 am

Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:46 am This is nice:

https://www.denverpost.com/2022/08/12/l ... denverpost

https://m.soundcloud.com/denverpost/lis ... er-mailbox

I had trouble with your first link, so here is a corrected one:

https://www.denverpost.com/2022/08/12/l ... calls-911/

PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:35 pm “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." -- Frank Wilhoit

CU88 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:37 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:42 am

HooDat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:11 pm The stalking of the judge who issued the warrant is as reprehensible as the protests at the homes of SCOTUS earlier this year.

I know there are nut-jobs out there, but can you not say you don't like the FBI without it turning into "you're going to insight shooters"?

Vigilantes and mob justice are BAD. Doesn't matter what side of the aisle you are on. But when people were talking about Hoover's tenure as head of the FBI, no one said it was going to cause violent attacks on FBI personnel or offices.

I thought everybody was on board with hating the IRS, the FBI, and Cable/Phone companies?

Is there NOTHING we can agree on anymore?

Once a year we all come together!

Call me Silky

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fKIwj1TQmFs

Boy George!


LOL

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:55 pm But the point is taken and why I’m fine with politicians and regulatory agencies doing less. Every action taken implicitly (and sometimes explicitly) favors one class over another and it’s rarely discussed in terms of “do we want this tradeoff”? but rather only don’t you care about the class I’m supporting????