LaxPower Back-Up Stick

1. Georgetown
2. Cornell
3. Notre Dame
4. Maryland
5. Penn
6. UVA
7. Duke
8. Yale
9. Ohio State
10. Princeton

I wonder who the media polls will actually crown preseason #1... has to be up for debate between Georgetown, Cornell, Notre Dame. I think Maryland lost too much to claim them #1 but they are definitely top 5.

Georgetown made some nice moves in the offseason bringing in Dordevic and several others, but they're also losing quite a bit: Watson, Trippi, Morin, Mazzone, Gibson Smith, and arguably the best goalie in the country in McElroy. All things considered I'd call that a wash. They were a better team than the first-round upset to Delaware suggested but I don't see anything to warrant a preseason #1 ranking. Top 10 certainly, top 5 maybe, but not #1.

Maryland was so far above everyone last year that I think they're still #1 headed into 2023 even with what they lose. They will be a MUCH more vulnerable #1 and won't go undefeated, but still I think the best team in the country. The defense, goalie, and FOGO situation is rock solid and they've still got plenty of talent on offense despite losing Wisnauskas et al. Combine that with their recent track record and the Tillman factor and I think they should remain #1 — albeit one that is not nearly as dominant. I'm not sure I'd pick them to win the title again in 2023, but that's a different conversation from who should begin the season ranked 1.

Cornell looks very good on paper, they return most key pieces except Piatelli. CJ Kirst is a future Tewaaraton candidate. They have to be top 5.

ND, Duke, and UVA will all be in the mix, I think it's a coin flip between each of them.

I remain perennially unconvinced by Penn. I would much rather be Princeton or Yale.

I do like what Ohio State has done in the offseason but losing Inacio hurts. Still probably my preseason #2 in the B1G.

Obligatory Hopkins comment — I really do think they will surprise this season, good energy around the program right now with the addition of Crawley as offensive coordinator along with some under-the-radar transfers and incoming freshman. Could be a make or break year for Milliman — I don't expect the world but I see them finishing as a ~top 15 bubble team.

Laxfanatic2022 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:26 pm 1. Georgetown
2. Cornell
3. Notre Dame
4. Maryland
5. Penn
6. UVA
7. Duke
8. Yale
9. Ohio State
10. Princeton

I wonder who the media polls will actually crown preseason #1... has to be up for debate between Georgetown, Cornell, Notre Dame. I think Maryland lost too much to claim them #1 but they are definitely top 5.

Notre Dame should be #1.

Cornell is an interesting case study. They lose more than just Piatelli, as Bardwell, Bartolotto, and Doria were are major pieces on the defensive end.

It’s easy to overrate them given how close they played the Terps in the title game, but they were far from a dominant team last year. Super inconsistent with big wins and some really really bad performances (Army/Brown blowouts, Cuse/Dartmouth 1 goal wins). And OSU, Delaware, and Rutgers is as favorable draw to the finals as you can get.

That being said I like them as a Top 10 team and think they have Top 5 upside, but think there are teams I’d bet on before them. I don’t see how you can separate them that much from Yale, Princeton, or Penn.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:52 pm

Laxfanatic2022 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:26 pm 1. Georgetown
2. Cornell
3. Notre Dame
4. Maryland
5. Penn
6. UVA
7. Duke
8. Yale
9. Ohio State
10. Princeton

I wonder who the media polls will actually crown preseason #1... has to be up for debate between Georgetown, Cornell, Notre Dame. I think Maryland lost too much to claim them #1 but they are definitely top 5.

Notre Dame should be #1.

They are the de facto defending national champions according the lax media pundits and the ACC fanboys.

Chousnake wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:02 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:52 pm
Notre Dame should be #1.

They are the de facto defending national champions according the lax media pundits and the ACC fanboys.

Agree with all the above

rolldodge wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:46 pm www.ncaa.com_history_lacrosse-men_d1 (2) copy.jpg

And Congrats to ND- it's their third such title in a row!

rolldodge wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:46 pm www.ncaa.com_history_lacrosse-men_d1 (2) copy.jpg

+1

Laxfanatic2022 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:26 pm 1. Georgetown
2. Cornell
3. Notre Dame
4. Maryland
5. Penn
6. UVA
7. Duke
8. Yale
9. Ohio State
10. Princeton

I wonder who the media polls will actually crown preseason #1... has to be up for debate between Georgetown, Cornell, Notre Dame. I think Maryland lost too much to claim them #1 but they are definitely top 5.

Rutgers should be in there

1. notre dame
2. uva
3. duke
4. umd
5. cornell
6. princeton
7. yale
8. penn
9. brown
10. harvard

bubble out: army, notre dame

1. UMD
2. ND
3. Georgetown
4. Cornell
5. UVA
6. Duke
7. Princeton
8. UPENN
9. OSU
10. Yale
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:52 pm

Laxfanatic2022 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:26 pm 1. Georgetown
2. Cornell
3. Notre Dame
4. Maryland
5. Penn
6. UVA
7. Duke
8. Yale
9. Ohio State
10. Princeton

I wonder who the media polls will actually crown preseason #1... has to be up for debate between Georgetown, Cornell, Notre Dame. I think Maryland lost too much to claim them #1 but they are definitely top 5.

Notre Dame should be #1.

LOL!

1. Maryland
2. Princeton
3. UVA
4. Georgetown
5. Cornell
6. Notre Dame
7. Yale
8. Ohio State
9. Penn
10. Jacksonville

keno in reno wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:52 pm

Laxfanatic2022 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:26 pm 1. Georgetown
2. Cornell
3. Notre Dame
4. Maryland
5. Penn
6. UVA
7. Duke
8. Yale
9. Ohio State
10. Princeton

I wonder who the media polls will actually crown preseason #1... has to be up for debate between Georgetown, Cornell, Notre Dame. I think Maryland lost too much to claim them #1 but they are definitely top 5.

Rutgers should be in there

Rutgers lost too much on offense and defense

rolldodge wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:46 pm www.ncaa.com_history_lacrosse-men_d1 (2) copy.jpg

Ha… this is gold.

As to the top 10:
1. Maryland
2. Cornell
3. Georgetown
4. Princeton
5. Virginia
6. Notre Dame
7. Duke
8. Rutgers
9. Penn
10. Harvard

Maryland returns four of the five most irreplaceable members of their team (FOGO, Goalie, #1 and #2 close defense) and plenty of offense. Cornell now has a full year under their belt playing together, and if Petrakis can get more consistent or even start to dominate the dot, they will be scary. UVa will miss Moore alot. Duke will start to play up to their potential. Harvard will pass Yale in the Ivy pecking order. OSU and Syracuse just outside the top 10.

MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:13 pm

rolldodge wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:46 pm www.ncaa.com_history_lacrosse-men_d1 (2) copy.jpg

Ha… this is gold.

As to the top 10:
1. Maryland
2. Cornell
3. Georgetown
4. Princeton
5. Virginia
6. Notre Dame
7. Duke
8. Rutgers
9. Penn
10. Harvard

Maryland returns four of the five most irreplaceable members of their team (FOGO, Goalie, #1 and #2 close defense) and plenty of offense. Cornell now has a full year under their belt playing together, and if Petrakis can get more consistent or even start to dominate the dot, they will be scary. UVa will miss Moore alot. Duke will start to play up to their potential. Harvard will pass Yale in the Ivy pecking order. OSU and Syracuse just outside the top 10.

The “Host or Site” is the best!!

rolldodge wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:46 pm www.ncaa.com_history_lacrosse-men_d1 (2) copy.jpg

This wins the internet today.

MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:13 pm Duke will start to play up to their potential.
Harvard will pass Yale in the Ivy pecking order.
OSU and Syracuse just outside the top 10.

So, Duke's potential the last 8 years has been national championships, no? There's no reason, again, why they can't do it next year, certainly not based on the recruiting rankings. But why is 2023 the year they start to play up to their potential? They've had the all-time generational recruit for the past 2 seasons, plus a multi-year all american, another national #1 recruit and numerous other superstars.

And not sure what pecking order means, but Harvard lacrosse isn't close to Yale lacrosse. Yale has a decade of proven greatness...Harvard beat one schizophrenic team last season and finished 8-5. That's a bad season by any good lacrosse program's standard's, and Yale's standard is much higher than good.

keno in reno wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:52 pm

MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:13 pm Duke will start to play up to their potential.
Harvard will pass Yale in the Ivy pecking order.
OSU and Syracuse just outside the top 10.

So, Duke's potential the last 8 years has been national championships, no? There's no reason, again, why they can't do it next year, certainly not based on the recruiting rankings. But why is 2023 the year they start to play up to their potential? They've had the all-time generational recruit for the past 2 seasons, plus a multi-year all american, another national #1 recruit and numerous other superstars.

And not sure what pecking order means, but Harvard lacrosse isn't close to Yale lacrosse. Yale has a decade of proven greatness...Harvard beat one schizophrenic team last season and finished 8-5. That's a bad season by any good lacrosse program's standard's, and Yale's standard is much higher than good.

A decade of greatness is an exaggeration but I know what you mean. Harvard has to climb over Cornell, Penn, Brown and Princeton before overtaking Yale.