Princeton versus Maryland
Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 9:50 am
I say it’ll be tight.
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Well I think we need to define "tight". Like losing by 5 to Maryland...would that be considered tight? Like is a blowout for this Maryland team only 10 or more?
PulpExposure wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:24 amWell I think we need to define "tight". Like losing by 5 to Maryland...would that be considered tight? Like is a blowout for this Maryland team only 10 or more?
5 goals was the largest lead they had the entire game. it was 3-5 goals the entire 2nd half and 3 with 7 minutes remaining.TheBigIguana wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:35 am The first game Maryland shot 30% which is a bad day for them and Princeton shot 43% which wasn't enough to keep it close. Maryland was better at the x but Princeton got a better day from their goalie. I didn't catch the game but what I'm seeing is one that wasn't even as close as the 5 goal margin. I feel like the most likely scenario is a Maryland win by more than the first matchup.
Completely agree with this. As a huge lacrosse fan, I would LOVE to see some competitive games this weekend. But I have a feeling that I will be poolside by the second half in both Maryland games. I hope to hell that I am wrong.xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 11:14 am Saw a post on the game yesterday where Maryland had 7 or 8 guys drafted in the PLL. This is an All-Star team with no weakness, I believe they will roll in both games. You have to give Tillman credit he recruits harder than anyone, portal and high school, always looking for the next player that can help.
https://www.lacrosseplayground.com/can- ... -maryland/When comparing the statistics from these two groups of games, it is clear that Maryland has seen substantial improvements in offensive efficiency since the beginning of their season. This improvement is represented in both individual player PPE Score increases and the weighted average PPE Score of the Maryland offense.
Good writeup. Do see Princeton as most complete Ivy team and 2nd best team remaining. Could see them keeping it close for reasons outlined but be a major upset to defeat a team with such balance and depth. Weirman and McNanney have greatly improved and that along with several excellent portal additions have made completed MarylandWheels wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:34 am If you listened to Quint's pod with Petro last week, Petro laid out the defensive "pick your poison" scheme for defending Maryland. Anyone who went to or watched the Cuse-MD game saw this in action, and Princeton followed the same blueprint the next week against MD. Petro sent his two best cover guys to Malever and Khan and was slow to slide to support those match-ups. You could see the crease defender hedging at times to make it seem like he would slide. It forced Maryland to go to its invert game early in the game.
Syracuse ultimately didn't have the horses to pull it off, but Princeton does have the horses. At least in its top 6 defensively.
They sent Baughan to Khan and Finlay to Malever. They dared those two to win the one-on-one match ups. Billings tried to use his size to hang on to Wisnauskas. Princeton also played that game with its third-strong FOGO, who didn't even arrive in College Park until an hour or so before the game because he had to pass a COVID test. Their other two FOGOs didn't play. Wierman ended up with 2 goals that game.
Princeton's depth is pretty thin. That's the concern for the Tigers. For every Stevens or English on Princeton, you have at least 2 Terps that do the same exact thing. Baughan and Finley are top cover defensemen, as are Makar and Zappitello. Pederson is a great shorty, but MD has 4 of them. So who from outside of Princeton's top 6 can make a difference? Because Maryland has a few that can, including its rope unit in transition.
Like the first match up, which also happened on just 6 days rest for the Terps after a big "road" game the week before, Princeton has the athletes and skill to make this a very good game. The question is whether they have the depth to pull it off. And Peters will need to have another 19 save performance like he did in College Park to keep Princeton in the game. The Terps put up 50 shots against UVA. Princeton will be in a lot of trouble if Maryland is putting up 50 shots.
The big thing for me is they got outshot 50-23 the first time. To keep it close with that is a minor miracle. Maryland has won games by 8 with fairly narrow edges in shots comparatively. So if Princeton wants to have any shot they almost certainly have to do better there. FOs might help but it won't solve it all. I don't think relying on outshooting them is a great idea.wgdsr wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:54 am5 goals was the largest lead they had the entire game. it was 3-5 goals the entire 2nd half and 3 with 7 minutes remaining.TheBigIguana wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:35 am The first game Maryland shot 30% which is a bad day for them and Princeton shot 43% which wasn't enough to keep it close. Maryland was better at the x but Princeton got a better day from their goalie. I didn't catch the game but what I'm seeing is one that wasn't even as close as the 5 goal margin. I feel like the most likely scenario is a Maryland win by more than the first matchup.
p'ton will likely be bringing more than their 3rd string fogo coming off covid protocol to the game. my guess wierman still has the advantage but possible the tigers can win some more. hopefully p'ton brings their best game.
fair enough. moving forward that doesn't look like a formula. my post was more confusion on how the past game wasn't as close as indicated.TheBigIguana wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 11:43 amThe big thing for me is they got outshot 50-23 the first time. To keep it close with that is a minor miracle. Maryland has won games by 8 with fairly narrow edges in shots comparatively. So if Princeton wants to have any shot they almost certainly have to do better there. FOs might help but it won't solve it all. I don't think relying on outshooting them is a great idea.wgdsr wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:54 am5 goals was the largest lead they had the entire game. it was 3-5 goals the entire 2nd half and 3 with 7 minutes remaining.TheBigIguana wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:35 am The first game Maryland shot 30% which is a bad day for them and Princeton shot 43% which wasn't enough to keep it close. Maryland was better at the x but Princeton got a better day from their goalie. I didn't catch the game but what I'm seeing is one that wasn't even as close as the 5 goal margin. I feel like the most likely scenario is a Maryland win by more than the first matchup.
p'ton will likely be bringing more than their 3rd string fogo coming off covid protocol to the game. my guess wierman still has the advantage but possible the tigers can win some more. hopefully p'ton brings their best game.
wgdsr wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 12:27 pmfair enough. moving forward that doesn't look like a formula. my post was more confusion on how the past game wasn't as close as indicated.TheBigIguana wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 11:43 amThe big thing for me is they got outshot 50-23 the first time. To keep it close with that is a minor miracle. Maryland has won games by 8 with fairly narrow edges in shots comparatively. So if Princeton wants to have any shot they almost certainly have to do better there. FOs might help but it won't solve it all. I don't think relying on outshooting them is a great idea.wgdsr wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:54 am5 goals was the largest lead they had the entire game. it was 3-5 goals the entire 2nd half and 3 with 7 minutes remaining.TheBigIguana wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 10:35 am The first game Maryland shot 30% which is a bad day for them and Princeton shot 43% which wasn't enough to keep it close. Maryland was better at the x but Princeton got a better day from their goalie. I didn't catch the game but what I'm seeing is one that wasn't even as close as the 5 goal margin. I feel like the most likely scenario is a Maryland win by more than the first matchup.
p'ton will likely be bringing more than their 3rd string fogo coming off covid protocol to the game. my guess wierman still has the advantage but possible the tigers can win some more. hopefully p'ton brings their best game.
though... it is possible that given the prior result and your stat... that p'ton for one day found a formula for success in one aspect -- being able to give up the shots that they wanted and ones their goalie could handle. maybe.
maryland will get their 40 plus shots. princeton will need to find a way to get more than 23.