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AreaLax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 5:34 pm He is at Ferris St.
He is in the upper left picture wearing #12

https://twitter.com/bentleyrferris/stat ... 92736?s=12

faircornell wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:12 pm Ferris State is a good D II football school. I wonder if he's trying to catch the eye of an NFL scout?

keno in reno wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:58 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:12 pm Ferris State is a good D II football school. I wonder if he's trying to catch the eye of an NFL scout?

The answer is yes, and he already has. The best athlete in D1 lacrosse any year can compete with NFL players athletically. The next question is does that lacrosse player have the size, and the answer with Jared is yes (Sowers, Montgomery and Gray, though great lax athletes, cannot check that box unless they can play the tiny receiver/punt returner role).

So the next check is does he have a football skill....that is TBD. If he only wants to be a QB, that could be a huge leap. If he wants to play QB in D2 and transition to WR in the NFL, that is certainly possible. Even college QB to NFL safety is possible and Jared is certainly capable of that. Even a pro switch to running back is possible considering his elite athleticism. I wouldn't bet against him. There are a few recent running backs from Maryland (obviously a bad football team for the past 15 years) that are doing well in the NFL; Jared is at least as good athletically as them.

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:24 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:58 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:12 pm Ferris State is a good D II football school. I wonder if he's trying to catch the eye of an NFL scout?

The answer is yes, and he already has. The best athlete in D1 lacrosse any year can compete with NFL players athletically. The next question is does that lacrosse player have the size, and the answer with Jared is yes (Sowers, Montgomery and Gray, though great lax athletes, cannot check that box unless they can play the tiny receiver/punt returner role).

So the next check is does he have a football skill....that is TBD. If he only wants to be a QB, that could be a huge leap. If he wants to play QB in D2 and transition to WR in the NFL, that is certainly possible. Even college QB to NFL safety is possible and Jared is certainly capable of that. Even a pro switch to running back is possible considering his elite athleticism. I wouldn't bet against him. There are a few recent running backs from Maryland (obviously a bad football team for the past 15 years) that are doing well in the NFL; Jared is at least as good athletically as them.

Unfortunately, elite football teams like Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson probably have several dozen players on their rosters who match or surpass Bernhardt in raw athleticism.

Realistically, Bernhardt will be fortunate to be picked up as an undrafted free agent and then signed to the practice squad of an NFL team. If he does play professional football, it will likely be in the Canadian Football League or an indoor football league.

As both Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel know all too well, even a Heisman Trophy doesn’t guarantee a spot on an NFL roster.

I wish Bernhardt the best, but his professional sports future is probably earning $30,000 a year (with benefits) in the PLL. The money isn’t good, but playing in the PLL is a privilege for former college lacrosse players. Frankly, I would rather see Bernhardt excel in the PLL than toil away on an NFL practice squad (which is the rosy professional football scenario).

DocBarrister

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:24 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:58 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:12 pm Ferris State is a good D II football school. I wonder if he's trying to catch the eye of an NFL scout?

The answer is yes, and he already has. The best athlete in D1 lacrosse any year can compete with NFL players athletically. The next question is does that lacrosse player have the size, and the answer with Jared is yes (Sowers, Montgomery and Gray, though great lax athletes, cannot check that box unless they can play the tiny receiver/punt returner role).

So the next check is does he have a football skill....that is TBD. If he only wants to be a QB, that could be a huge leap. If he wants to play QB in D2 and transition to WR in the NFL, that is certainly possible. Even college QB to NFL safety is possible and Jared is certainly capable of that. Even a pro switch to running back is possible considering his elite athleticism. I wouldn't bet against him. There are a few recent running backs from Maryland (obviously a bad football team for the past 15 years) that are doing well in the NFL; Jared is at least as good athletically as them.

Unfortunately, elite football teams like Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson probably have several dozen players on their rosters who match or surpass Bernhardt in raw athleticism.

Realistically, Bernhardt will be fortunate to be picked up as an undrafted free agent and then signed to the practice squad of an NFL team. If he does play professional football, it will likely be in the Canadian Football League or an indoor football league.

As both Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel know all too well, even a Heisman Trophy doesn’t guarantee a spot on an NFL roster.

I wish Bernhardt the best, but his professional sports future is probably earning $30,000 a year (with benefits) in the PLL. The money isn’t good, but playing in the PLL is a privilege for former college lacrosse players. Frankly, I would rather see Bernhardt excel in the PLL than toil away on an NFL practice squad (which is the rosy professional football scenario).

DocBarrister

xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:23 pm I wish him well but let’s see how he does at Ferris before people start talking about the NFL, and to say that top D1 lacrosse players on on par athletically with NFL athletes is probably a bit of a stretch. There are incredible athletes that focused only on football who can’t sniff an NFL roster.

keno in reno wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:03 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:24 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:58 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:12 pm Ferris State is a good D II football school. I wonder if he's trying to catch the eye of an NFL scout?

The answer is yes, and he already has. The best athlete in D1 lacrosse any year can compete with NFL players athletically. The next question is does that lacrosse player have the size, and the answer with Jared is yes (Sowers, Montgomery and Gray, though great lax athletes, cannot check that box unless they can play the tiny receiver/punt returner role).

So the next check is does he have a football skill....that is TBD. If he only wants to be a QB, that could be a huge leap. If he wants to play QB in D2 and transition to WR in the NFL, that is certainly possible. Even college QB to NFL safety is possible and Jared is certainly capable of that. Even a pro switch to running back is possible considering his elite athleticism. I wouldn't bet against him. There are a few recent running backs from Maryland (obviously a bad football team for the past 15 years) that are doing well in the NFL; Jared is at least as good athletically as them.

Unfortunately, elite football teams like Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson probably have several dozen players on their rosters who match or surpass Bernhardt in raw athleticism.

Realistically, Bernhardt will be fortunate to be picked up as an undrafted free agent and then signed to the practice squad of an NFL team. If he does play professional football, it will likely be in the Canadian Football League or an indoor football league.

As both Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel know all too well, even a Heisman Trophy doesn’t guarantee a spot on an NFL roster.

I wish Bernhardt the best, but his professional sports future is probably earning $30,000 a year (with benefits) in the PLL. The money isn’t good, but playing in the PLL is a privilege for former college lacrosse players. Frankly, I would rather see Bernhardt excel in the PLL than toil away on an NFL practice squad (which is the rosy professional football scenario).

DocBarrister

So what is your expertise in the NFL? Google all you want, but I bet you have no idea who Jake Funk, Ty Johnson and Anthony McFarland are at this moment. At a minimum, Jared is their athletic peer.

But you probably know more, so what is your expertise in NFL talent evaluation?

Wheels wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:37 pm He's an option QB at Ferris. Even in the CFL, he'd have to play WR.

keno in reno wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:03 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:24 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:58 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:12 pm Ferris State is a good D II football school. I wonder if he's trying to catch the eye of an NFL scout?

The answer is yes, and he already has. The best athlete in D1 lacrosse any year can compete with NFL players athletically. The next question is does that lacrosse player have the size, and the answer with Jared is yes (Sowers, Montgomery and Gray, though great lax athletes, cannot check that box unless they can play the tiny receiver/punt returner role).

So the next check is does he have a football skill....that is TBD. If he only wants to be a QB, that could be a huge leap. If he wants to play QB in D2 and transition to WR in the NFL, that is certainly possible. Even college QB to NFL safety is possible and Jared is certainly capable of that. Even a pro switch to running back is possible considering his elite athleticism. I wouldn't bet against him. There are a few recent running backs from Maryland (obviously a bad football team for the past 15 years) that are doing well in the NFL; Jared is at least as good athletically as them.

Unfortunately, elite football teams like Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson probably have several dozen players on their rosters who match or surpass Bernhardt in raw athleticism.

Realistically, Bernhardt will be fortunate to be picked up as an undrafted free agent and then signed to the practice squad of an NFL team. If he does play professional football, it will likely be in the Canadian Football League or an indoor football league.

As both Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel know all too well, even a Heisman Trophy doesn’t guarantee a spot on an NFL roster.

I wish Bernhardt the best, but his professional sports future is probably earning $30,000 a year (with benefits) in the PLL. The money isn’t good, but playing in the PLL is a privilege for former college lacrosse players. Frankly, I would rather see Bernhardt excel in the PLL than toil away on an NFL practice squad (which is the rosy professional football scenario).

DocBarrister

So what is your expertise in the NFL? Google all you want, but I bet you have no idea who Jake Funk, Ty Johnson and Anthony McFarland are at this moment. At a minimum, Jared is their athletic peer.

But you probably know more, so what is your expertise in NFL talent evaluation?

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:58 am

keno in reno wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:03 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:24 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:58 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:12 pm Ferris State is a good D II football school. I wonder if he's trying to catch the eye of an NFL scout?

The answer is yes, and he already has. The best athlete in D1 lacrosse any year can compete with NFL players athletically. The next question is does that lacrosse player have the size, and the answer with Jared is yes (Sowers, Montgomery and Gray, though great lax athletes, cannot check that box unless they can play the tiny receiver/punt returner role).

So the next check is does he have a football skill....that is TBD. If he only wants to be a QB, that could be a huge leap. If he wants to play QB in D2 and transition to WR in the NFL, that is certainly possible. Even college QB to NFL safety is possible and Jared is certainly capable of that. Even a pro switch to running back is possible considering his elite athleticism. I wouldn't bet against him. There are a few recent running backs from Maryland (obviously a bad football team for the past 15 years) that are doing well in the NFL; Jared is at least as good athletically as them.

Unfortunately, elite football teams like Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson probably have several dozen players on their rosters who match or surpass Bernhardt in raw athleticism.

Realistically, Bernhardt will be fortunate to be picked up as an undrafted free agent and then signed to the practice squad of an NFL team. If he does play professional football, it will likely be in the Canadian Football League or an indoor football league.

As both Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel know all too well, even a Heisman Trophy doesn’t guarantee a spot on an NFL roster.

I wish Bernhardt the best, but his professional sports future is probably earning $30,000 a year (with benefits) in the PLL. The money isn’t good, but playing in the PLL is a privilege for former college lacrosse players. Frankly, I would rather see Bernhardt excel in the PLL than toil away on an NFL practice squad (which is the rosy professional football scenario).

DocBarrister

So what is your expertise in the NFL? Google all you want, but I bet you have no idea who Jake Funk, Ty Johnson and Anthony McFarland are at this moment. At a minimum, Jared is their athletic peer.

But you probably know more, so what is your expertise in NFL talent evaluation?

All those guys you listed played multiple seasons of Division I football.

Had Bernhardt played multiple seasons of Division I football, I might be more optimistic about his chances, but he didn’t.

From what I have read, Bernhardt isn’t likely to start at QB. Maybe he could become a running back, but elite athletes at RB are a dime a dozen and he would be hard pressed to win a roster spot in the NFL. Many RBs make their living pass blocking (e.g., Kyren Williams of Notre Dame). Does Bernhardt have that skill? That requires skill in reading defenses (obviously a challenging skill for QBs as well). WR is an even tougher position. It can take years of top-level play to learn how to run the precise routes that an NFL WR must run.

Athleticism is just the foundation for a good football player. Hard to see Bernhardt getting in enough reps at Division II to attract any serious attention from the NFL.

Again, wish him the best.

DocBarrister

keno in reno wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:30 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:24 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:58 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:12 pm Ferris State is a good D II football school. I wonder if he's trying to catch the eye of an NFL scout?

The answer is yes, and he already has. The best athlete in D1 lacrosse any year can compete with NFL players athletically. The next question is does that lacrosse player have the size, and the answer with Jared is yes (Sowers, Montgomery and Gray, though great lax athletes, cannot check that box unless they can play the tiny receiver/punt returner role).

So the next check is does he have a football skill....that is TBD. If he only wants to be a QB, that could be a huge leap. If he wants to play QB in D2 and transition to WR in the NFL, that is certainly possible. Even college QB to NFL safety is possible and Jared is certainly capable of that. Even a pro switch to running back is possible considering his elite athleticism. I wouldn't bet against him. There are a few recent running backs from Maryland (obviously a bad football team for the past 15 years) that are doing well in the NFL; Jared is at least as good athletically as them.

Unfortunately, elite football teams like Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson probably have several dozen players on their rosters who match or surpass Bernhardt in raw athleticism.

Realistically, Bernhardt will be fortunate to be picked up as an undrafted free agent and then signed to the practice squad of an NFL team. If he does play professional football, it will likely be in the Canadian Football League or an indoor football league.

As both Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel know all too well, even a Heisman Trophy doesn’t guarantee a spot on an NFL roster.

I wish Bernhardt the best, but his professional sports future is probably earning $30,000 a year (with benefits) in the PLL. The money isn’t good, but playing in the PLL is a privilege for former college lacrosse players. Frankly, I would rather see Bernhardt excel in the PLL than toil away on an NFL practice squad (which is the rosy professional football scenario).

DocBarrister

Also, can you list the several dozen players (which would mean 24 or more) who are better athletes at Clemson than Bernhardt? Was Hunter Renfrow superior athletically than several dozen others at his own school? He's not a better athlete than Jared, but he's a real good NFL receiver. Mike Williams is a Clemson hall of fame receiver and he's not as athletic as Jared.

keno in reno wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:03 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:24 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:58 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:12 pm Ferris State is a good D II football school. I wonder if he's trying to catch the eye of an NFL scout?

The answer is yes, and he already has. The best athlete in D1 lacrosse any year can compete with NFL players athletically. The next question is does that lacrosse player have the size, and the answer with Jared is yes (Sowers, Montgomery and Gray, though great lax athletes, cannot check that box unless they can play the tiny receiver/punt returner role).

So the next check is does he have a football skill....that is TBD. If he only wants to be a QB, that could be a huge leap. If he wants to play QB in D2 and transition to WR in the NFL, that is certainly possible. Even college QB to NFL safety is possible and Jared is certainly capable of that. Even a pro switch to running back is possible considering his elite athleticism. I wouldn't bet against him. There are a few recent running backs from Maryland (obviously a bad football team for the past 15 years) that are doing well in the NFL; Jared is at least as good athletically as them.

Unfortunately, elite football teams like Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson probably have several dozen players on their rosters who match or surpass Bernhardt in raw athleticism.

Realistically, Bernhardt will be fortunate to be picked up as an undrafted free agent and then signed to the practice squad of an NFL team. If he does play professional football, it will likely be in the Canadian Football League or an indoor football league.

As both Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel know all too well, even a Heisman Trophy doesn’t guarantee a spot on an NFL roster.

I wish Bernhardt the best, but his professional sports future is probably earning $30,000 a year (with benefits) in the PLL. The money isn’t good, but playing in the PLL is a privilege for former college lacrosse players. Frankly, I would rather see Bernhardt excel in the PLL than toil away on an NFL practice squad (which is the rosy professional football scenario).

DocBarrister

So what is your expertise in the NFL? Google all you want, but I bet you have no idea who Jake Funk, Ty Johnson and Anthony McFarland are at this moment. At a minimum, Jared is their athletic peer.

But you probably know more, so what is your expertise in NFL talent evaluation?

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 7:03 am

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:58 am

keno in reno wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:03 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:24 pm

keno in reno wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:58 pm

faircornell wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:12 pm Ferris State is a good D II football school. I wonder if he's trying to catch the eye of an NFL scout?

The answer is yes, and he already has. The best athlete in D1 lacrosse any year can compete with NFL players athletically. The next question is does that lacrosse player have the size, and the answer with Jared is yes (Sowers, Montgomery and Gray, though great lax athletes, cannot check that box unless they can play the tiny receiver/punt returner role).

So the next check is does he have a football skill....that is TBD. If he only wants to be a QB, that could be a huge leap. If he wants to play QB in D2 and transition to WR in the NFL, that is certainly possible. Even college QB to NFL safety is possible and Jared is certainly capable of that. Even a pro switch to running back is possible considering his elite athleticism. I wouldn't bet against him. There are a few recent running backs from Maryland (obviously a bad football team for the past 15 years) that are doing well in the NFL; Jared is at least as good athletically as them.

Unfortunately, elite football teams like Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson probably have several dozen players on their rosters who match or surpass Bernhardt in raw athleticism.

Realistically, Bernhardt will be fortunate to be picked up as an undrafted free agent and then signed to the practice squad of an NFL team. If he does play professional football, it will likely be in the Canadian Football League or an indoor football league.

As both Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel know all too well, even a Heisman Trophy doesn’t guarantee a spot on an NFL roster.

I wish Bernhardt the best, but his professional sports future is probably earning $30,000 a year (with benefits) in the PLL. The money isn’t good, but playing in the PLL is a privilege for former college lacrosse players. Frankly, I would rather see Bernhardt excel in the PLL than toil away on an NFL practice squad (which is the rosy professional football scenario).

DocBarrister

So what is your expertise in the NFL? Google all you want, but I bet you have no idea who Jake Funk, Ty Johnson and Anthony McFarland are at this moment. At a minimum, Jared is their athletic peer.

But you probably know more, so what is your expertise in NFL talent evaluation?

All those guys you listed played multiple seasons of Division I football.

Had Bernhardt played multiple seasons of Division I football, I might be more optimistic about his chances, but he didn’t.

From what I have read, Bernhardt isn’t likely to start at QB. Maybe he could become a running back, but elite athletes at RB are a dime a dozen and he would be hard pressed to win a roster spot in the NFL. Many RBs make their living pass blocking (e.g., Kyren Williams of Notre Dame). Does Bernhardt have that skill? That requires skill in reading defenses (obviously a challenging skill for QBs as well). WR is an even tougher position. It can take years of top-level play to learn how to run the precise routes that an NFL WR must run.

Athleticism is just the foundation for a good football player. Hard to see Bernhardt getting in enough reps at Division II to attract any serious attention from the NFL.

Again, wish him the best.

DocBarrister

I guess Loyola guys were talking about Pat Spencer playing in the NBA couple of years ago so let MD fans have this dream.