Ron Desantis (The Desantis Doctrine)

[ggait]

I'll put my predictions, whether lax, stocks, or politics up against yours any day of the week, Petey.

I couldn't resist. Such a classic post:

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:21 pm
I'd be remiss if I didn't pump my favorite stock, Gilead, at least once a day.

The second clinical trial had very promising results too! Man, I tell you, the free market is a beautiful thing.

The savior drug, run by a dude that House Democrats on the house whatever committee tried to shame for being smart. Thank god for American ingenuity. Let's roll. And...

Back to work!

GILD peaked at $84 on 4/17/2020. That was when PB was telling us to buy. Anyone even remember Remdesivir?

Bottomed out at $57 on 12/24/20. Has improved since then and is $68.54 today.

[Peter Brown]

I'll put my predictions, whether lax, stocks, or politics up against yours any day of the week, Petey.

I couldn't resist. Such a classic post:

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:21 pm
I'd be remiss if I didn't pump my favorite stock, Gilead, at least once a day.

The second clinical trial had very promising results too! Man, I tell you, the free market is a beautiful thing.

The savior drug, run by a dude that House Democrats on the house whatever committee tried to shame for being smart. Thank god for American ingenuity. Let's roll. And...

Back to work!

GILD peaked at $84 on 4/17/2020. That was when PB was telling us to buy. Anyone even remember Remdesivir?

Bottomed out at $57 on 12/24/20. Has improved since then and is $68.54 today.

He’s trolling. Whaaaaaah. Admin. A troll is infecting the timeline. Whaaaaaah. Double whaaaaah.




(You see, the above is what you and MD do when anyone posts substantive posts which go against your preferred and demanded narrative, then you whine to the powers that be, you yell TROLL even louder, and so forth. Meanwhile most of us simply parry the ideas in good spirit, not too attached to any set thought, open to being proven wrong, all in the spirit of gratitude to being American, never complaining to admins, because we are too focused on debating ideas, literally I can’t recall anything you’ve ever written here, but you can! ....feel free to join!!!).

[MDlaxfan76]

I'll put my predictions, whether lax, stocks, or politics up against yours any day of the week, Petey.

I couldn't resist. Such a classic post:

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:21 pm
I'd be remiss if I didn't pump my favorite stock, Gilead, at least once a day.

The second clinical trial had very promising results too! Man, I tell you, the free market is a beautiful thing.

The savior drug, run by a dude that House Democrats on the house whatever committee tried to shame for being smart. Thank god for American ingenuity. Let's roll. And...

Back to work!

GILD peaked at $84 on 4/17/2020. That was when PB was telling us to buy. Anyone even remember Remdesivir?

Bottomed out at $57 on 12/24/20. Has improved since then and is $68.54 today.

He’s trolling. Whaaaaaah. Admin. A troll is infecting the timeline. Whaaaaaah. Double whaaaaah.




(You see, the above is what you and MD do when anyone posts substantive posts which go against your preferred and demanded narrative, then you whine to the powers that be, you yell TROLL even louder, and so forth. Meanwhile most of us simply parry the ideas in good spirit, not too attached to any set thought, open to being proven wrong, all in the spirit of gratitude to being American, never complaining to admins, because we are too focused on debating ideas, literally I can’t recall anything you’ve ever written here, but you can! ....feel free to join!!!).

Yup, you never disappoint, Petey.
Ridiculous response to being called on for your past 'predictions', yet dismissal of my logic out of hand...

You have no logical answer to my speculation that a raging Delta was coming, and that such could be very problematic for Desantis politically given his positioning on the virus, masks, etc.

Nope, just "most popular governor in America' ...and 'freedom!'

[jhu72]

Everything is just fine in Florida. Doubt anyone in the Sunshine State will notice the 50% increase.

[Peter Brown]

Everything is just fine in Florida. Doubt anyone in the Sunshine State will notice the 50% increase.

It’ll go down as quickly as it went up. Floridians aren’t nearly as worked up as outsiders who don’t like that Desantis is a leader. Hmmmmm.

Meanwhile Maryland is on fire with Covid but you don’t post about that. Why?

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/07/ ... baltimore/

[Brooklyn]

Florida breaks record with more than 21,000 new COVID cases


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/flori ... hp&pc=U531



Florida reported 21,683 new cases of COVID-19, the state’s highest one-day total since the start of the pandemic, according to federal health data released Saturday, as its theme park resorts again started asking visitors to wear masks indoors.

The state has become the new national epicenter for the virus, accounting for around a fifth of all new cases in the U.S. as the highly contagious delta variant of the coronavirus continues to spread.

Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has resisted mandatory mask mandates and vaccine requirements, and along with the state Legislature, has limited local officials’ ability to impose restrictions meant to stop the spread of COVID-19. DeSantis on Friday barred school districts from requiring students to wear masks when classes resume next month.

The latest numbers were recorded on Friday and released on Saturday on the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's website. The figures show how quickly the number of cases is rising in the Sunshine State: only a day earlier, Florida reported 17,093 new daily cases. The previous peak in Florida had been 19,334 cases reported on Jan. 7, before the availability of vaccinations became widespread.




Congratulations to the GOP's next presidential candidate.

[Peter Brown]

Florida breaks record with more than 21,000 new COVID cases


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/flori ... hp&pc=U531



Florida reported 21,683 new cases of COVID-19, the state’s highest one-day total since the start of the pandemic, according to federal health data released Saturday, as its theme park resorts again started asking visitors to wear masks indoors.

The state has become the new national epicenter for the virus, accounting for around a fifth of all new cases in the U.S. as the highly contagious delta variant of the coronavirus continues to spread.

Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has resisted mandatory mask mandates and vaccine requirements, and along with the state Legislature, has limited local officials’ ability to impose restrictions meant to stop the spread of COVID-19. DeSantis on Friday barred school districts from requiring students to wear masks when classes resume next month.

The latest numbers were recorded on Friday and released on Saturday on the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's website. The figures show how quickly the number of cases is rising in the Sunshine State: only a day earlier, Florida reported 17,093 new daily cases. The previous peak in Florida had been 19,334 cases reported on Jan. 7, before the availability of vaccinations became widespread.

Congratulations to the GOP's next presidential candidate.

Actually, the next President. Hooah!!!!

Anyhow, I’ll be back to the great sunshine state this week, and I’ll let you know if people are frightened or simply living their lives. My guess is not frightened and simply working. No mask.

COVID porn is not a huge seller in FLA. Citizens in Florida have spine, so they simply get on with things. My guess is Miami-dade is again the epicenter of this burst of ‘active cases’, not symptomatic, and again not to be confused with deaths, like what happens in New York.

[jhu72]

Everything is just fine in Florida. Doubt anyone in the Sunshine State will notice the 50% increase.

It’ll go down as quickly as it went up. Floridians aren’t nearly as worked up as outsiders who don’t like that Desantis is a leader. Hmmmmm.

Meanwhile Maryland is on fire with Covid but you don’t post about that. Why?

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/07/ ... baltimore/

.... squirrel!

[MDlaxfan76]

Everything is just fine in Florida. Doubt anyone in the Sunshine State will notice the 50% increase.

It’ll go down as quickly as it went up. Floridians aren’t nearly as worked up as outsiders who don’t like that Desantis is a leader. Hmmmmm.

Meanwhile Maryland is on fire with Covid but you don’t post about that. Why?

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/07/ ... baltimore/

.... squirrel!

Pretty ridiculous, though the uptick in cases in MD is indeed worrying. We'll see some increased masking here. And more pressure on proof of vaccination status.

That said, we're at 15% of our prior peak in avg daily cases, versus Florida at 90%...which is spiking hard upward. Will likely surpass their peak this coming week.

MD's daily deaths are still trending downward (but we can expect an upward trend again over the next few weeks as hospitalizations have definitely risen).

MD has 64.6% of residents with at least one dose, 58.7% with two.
Florida has 57.5% with one dose, 48.8% with two.
Not actually awful in comparison to some of their neighbors, but trend line is not good...so more 'dry tinder' and a Gov actually opposed to mask usage and any businesses being able to request proof of vaccination or test from employees and customers...

MD has 1,625 deaths per million so far.
FLA has 1,820 deaths per million so far...39,079 deaths...will be over 40K shortly.
Currently 59 per day, and spiking upward.

[Peter Brown]

Everything is just fine in Florida. Doubt anyone in the Sunshine State will notice the 50% increase.

It’ll go down as quickly as it went up. Floridians aren’t nearly as worked up as outsiders who don’t like that Desantis is a leader. Hmmmmm.

Meanwhile Maryland is on fire with Covid but you don’t post about that. Why?

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/07/ ... baltimore/

.... squirrel!

Pretty ridiculous, though the uptick in cases in MD is indeed worrying. We'll see some increased masking here. And more pressure on proof of vaccination status.

That said, we're at 15% of our prior peak in avg daily cases, versus Florida at 90%...which is spiking hard upward. Will likely surpass their peak this coming week.

MD's daily deaths are still trending downward (but we can expect an upward trend again over the next few weeks as hospitalizations have definitely risen).

MD has 64.6% of residents with at least one dose, 58.7% with two.
Florida has 57.5% with one dose, 48.8% with two.
Not actually awful in comparison to some of their neighbors, but trend line is not good...so more 'dry tinder' and a Gov actually opposed to mask usage and any businesses being able to request proof of vaccination or test from employees and customers...

MD has 1,625 deaths per million so far.
FLA has 1,820 deaths per million so far...39,079 deaths...will be over 40K shortly.
Currently 59 per day, and spiking upward.

Explaining this over and over.

When folks go inside, Covid spikes, with or without masks. Florida is inside today. The northeast is outside.

When cases spike, people use their own good judgment to avoid being infected: masks, doordash, no restaurants, etc. Florida will trend down shortly. Then the weather gets better and people go outside. In the meantime, Desantis will listen to science and not force young kids to wear masks, plus he will keep the economy open.

The north will see the opposite pattern. And come November when their politicians close economies and force 5 year olds in masks, we’ll all be here reading MD saying how brilliant Democratic governors are.

[Brooklyn]

According to Florida's covid site, 85% of the state's seniors are fully vaccinated.* Hopefully, the rest of those people will avoid the pox. The one thing about Florida's recent uptick in covid cases is that the majority of the new victims are younger than what we've seen in the past. As for those younger folks who get infected, the death rate will likely be less than what we've seen up to now as younger folks are more resistant to the tRump plague.

Whatever the case, don't f____k up folks. Get your vax before it's too late.







* http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partn ... latest.pdf

Vaccine age groups - Population - Vaccinated
65+ ....................4,584,066... 85%

[MDlaxfan76]

Everything is just fine in Florida. Doubt anyone in the Sunshine State will notice the 50% increase.

It’ll go down as quickly as it went up. Floridians aren’t nearly as worked up as outsiders who don’t like that Desantis is a leader. Hmmmmm.

Meanwhile Maryland is on fire with Covid but you don’t post about that. Why?

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/07/ ... baltimore/

.... squirrel!

Pretty ridiculous, though the uptick in cases in MD is indeed worrying. We'll see some increased masking here. And more pressure on proof of vaccination status.

That said, we're at 15% of our prior peak in avg daily cases, versus Florida at 90%...which is spiking hard upward. Will likely surpass their peak this coming week.

MD's daily deaths are still trending downward (but we can expect an upward trend again over the next few weeks as hospitalizations have definitely risen).

MD has 64.6% of residents with at least one dose, 58.7% with two.
Florida has 57.5% with one dose, 48.8% with two.
Not actually awful in comparison to some of their neighbors, but trend line is not good...so more 'dry tinder' and a Gov actually opposed to mask usage and any businesses being able to request proof of vaccination or test from employees and customers...

MD has 1,625 deaths per million so far.
FLA has 1,820 deaths per million so far...39,079 deaths...will be over 40K shortly.
Currently 59 per day, and spiking upward.

Explaining this over and over.

When folks go inside, Covid spikes, with or without masks. Florida is inside today. The northeast is outside.

When cases spike, people use their own good judgment to avoid being infected: masks, doordash, no restaurants, etc. Florida will trend down shortly. Then the weather gets better and people go outside. In the meantime, Desantis will listen to science and not force young kids to wear masks, plus he will keep the economy open.

The north will see the opposite pattern. And come November when their politicians close economies and force 5 year olds in masks, we’ll all be here reading MD saying how brilliant Democratic governors are.

I haven't said a single Dem gov is/was "brilliant". I think they're all stumbling around trying to manage a national pandemic.

Some governors are downright stupid, however.
I happen to think my GOP governor in MD has done about as good a job as any governor in America.

and yeah, I think Desantis has positioned himself to be a real loser politically.
I hope I'm wrong about what's going to happen with Florida and Covid.
I really do.

But I've been close to right or dead on at pretty much every turn on the past 18 months, in contrast to you being very close to 100% wrong at every turn, so I'm willing to go out on a limb that I'm more like to be correct on this turn too.

And FYI, Florida's peak was in January.
Winter...people outside.

[old salt]

Everything is just fine in Florida. Doubt anyone in the Sunshine State will notice the 50% increase.

It’ll go down as quickly as it went up. Floridians aren’t nearly as worked up as outsiders who don’t like that Desantis is a leader. Hmmmmm.

Meanwhile Maryland is on fire with Covid but you don’t post about that. Why?

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/07/ ... baltimore/

.... squirrel!

pretty big squirrel in our back yard.

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/07/ ... baltimore/
ANNAPOLIS, Md. (WJZ) — Less than half of people in Baltimore City are fully vaccinated.
Hospitalizations increased Tuesday. There are 208 people currently hospitalized with COVID-19 with 140 in acute care and 49 in the ICU.
In some neighborhoods, fewer than 30% of people have taken the vaccine. On Wednesday, Maryland recorded more than 400 new infections for the first time since May.

Baltimore’s NAACP Branch President Dr. Kobi Little said the risk of hospitalization and death without the shots is too high.
“In the Black community, we should be terribly, terribly concerned that our vaccination levels are so low because it means that we are incredibly vulnerable,” Rev. Little said at a town hall. “There are some Black zip codes in Baltimore City where the vaccination level is at 20%. That means that in every group of 10 people, 8 people are not vaccinated. It means that not just a majority, but the vast, overwhelming majority of people are susceptible.”

Mayor Brandon Scott pleaded with people to get the vaccine again on Wednesday. “100% of fatalities during the month of June in Maryland were from unvaccinated residents. It’s that plain and simple. Women lie. Men lie. The numbers don’t,“ Mayor Scott said.

Governor Hogan said the vaccine is remarkably effective and revealed at the Board of Public Works there have been very few breakthrough cases among those who’ve gotten the shots. He said they account for .07% of infections.

Dr. Schabelman told Hellgren the clock is ticking before Covid mutates again as cases increase at even greater numbers. “The virus spreads exponentially. Yes, we had 400 today, but we had 80 a couple of weeks ago. So we would expect this virus to spread in an exponential manner, and we could have thousands in a couple of weeks. So we have to be very, very careful. We have not reached heard immunity—and there are plenty of unvaccinated people still in Maryland,“ the doctor said.

[Brooklyn]

I believe we discussed the pathetic case of Henrietta Lacks which explains why the black community in Baltimore is so distrustful of the medical profession there. Recall The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks:

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/henriet ... lacks.html


We had a great discussion of this in my old American History Book Club and it is a matter that everyone should know.



In fact, the Lacks family is back in the news:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/famil ... uxbndlbing



The city and its urban advocates need to do a better job of motivating people to take those vaccinations.

[Peter Brown]

Everything is just fine in Florida. Doubt anyone in the Sunshine State will notice the 50% increase.

It’ll go down as quickly as it went up. Floridians aren’t nearly as worked up as outsiders who don’t like that Desantis is a leader. Hmmmmm.

Meanwhile Maryland is on fire with Covid but you don’t post about that. Why?

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/07/ ... baltimore/

.... squirrel!

Pretty ridiculous, though the uptick in cases in MD is indeed worrying. We'll see some increased masking here. And more pressure on proof of vaccination status.

That said, we're at 15% of our prior peak in avg daily cases, versus Florida at 90%...which is spiking hard upward. Will likely surpass their peak this coming week.

MD's daily deaths are still trending downward (but we can expect an upward trend again over the next few weeks as hospitalizations have definitely risen).

MD has 64.6% of residents with at least one dose, 58.7% with two.
Florida has 57.5% with one dose, 48.8% with two.
Not actually awful in comparison to some of their neighbors, but trend line is not good...so more 'dry tinder' and a Gov actually opposed to mask usage and any businesses being able to request proof of vaccination or test from employees and customers...

MD has 1,625 deaths per million so far.
FLA has 1,820 deaths per million so far...39,079 deaths...will be over 40K shortly.
Currently 59 per day, and spiking upward.

Explaining this over and over.

When folks go inside, Covid spikes, with or without masks. Florida is inside today. The northeast is outside.

When cases spike, people use their own good judgment to avoid being infected: masks, doordash, no restaurants, etc. Florida will trend down shortly. Then the weather gets better and people go outside. In the meantime, Desantis will listen to science and not force young kids to wear masks, plus he will keep the economy open.

The north will see the opposite pattern. And come November when their politicians close economies and force 5 year olds in masks, we’ll all be here reading MD saying how brilliant Democratic governors are.

I haven't said a single Dem gov is/was "brilliant". I think they're all stumbling around trying to manage a national pandemic.

Some governors are downright stupid, however.
I happen to think my GOP governor in MD has done about as good a job as any governor in America.

and yeah, I think Desantis has positioned himself to be a real loser politically.
I hope I'm wrong about what's going to happen with Florida and Covid.
I really do.

But I've been close to right or dead on at pretty much every turn on the past 18 months, in contrast to you being very close to 100% wrong at every turn, so I'm willing to go out on a limb that I'm more like to be correct on this turn too.

And FYI, Florida's peak was in January.
Winter...people outside.

For a guy who engenders a ton of hate-mail around here, you grade yourself quite high, which might explain the problem.

The good news is I agree about Larry Hogan. I like the guy. A lot.

[MDlaxfan76]

Everything is just fine in Florida. Doubt anyone in the Sunshine State will notice the 50% increase.

It’ll go down as quickly as it went up. Floridians aren’t nearly as worked up as outsiders who don’t like that Desantis is a leader. Hmmmmm.

Meanwhile Maryland is on fire with Covid but you don’t post about that. Why?

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/07/ ... baltimore/

.... squirrel!

Pretty ridiculous, though the uptick in cases in MD is indeed worrying. We'll see some increased masking here. And more pressure on proof of vaccination status.

That said, we're at 15% of our prior peak in avg daily cases, versus Florida at 90%...which is spiking hard upward. Will likely surpass their peak this coming week.

MD's daily deaths are still trending downward (but we can expect an upward trend again over the next few weeks as hospitalizations have definitely risen).

MD has 64.6% of residents with at least one dose, 58.7% with two.
Florida has 57.5% with one dose, 48.8% with two.
Not actually awful in comparison to some of their neighbors, but trend line is not good...so more 'dry tinder' and a Gov actually opposed to mask usage and any businesses being able to request proof of vaccination or test from employees and customers...

MD has 1,625 deaths per million so far.
FLA has 1,820 deaths per million so far...39,079 deaths...will be over 40K shortly.
Currently 59 per day, and spiking upward.

Explaining this over and over.

When folks go inside, Covid spikes, with or without masks. Florida is inside today. The northeast is outside.

When cases spike, people use their own good judgment to avoid being infected: masks, doordash, no restaurants, etc. Florida will trend down shortly. Then the weather gets better and people go outside. In the meantime, Desantis will listen to science and not force young kids to wear masks, plus he will keep the economy open.

The north will see the opposite pattern. And come November when their politicians close economies and force 5 year olds in masks, we’ll all be here reading MD saying how brilliant Democratic governors are.

I haven't said a single Dem gov is/was "brilliant". I think they're all stumbling around trying to manage a national pandemic.

Some governors are downright stupid, however.
I happen to think my GOP governor in MD has done about as good a job as any governor in America.

and yeah, I think Desantis has positioned himself to be a real loser politically.
I hope I'm wrong about what's going to happen with Florida and Covid.
I really do.

But I've been close to right or dead on at pretty much every turn on the past 18 months, in contrast to you being very close to 100% wrong at every turn, so I'm willing to go out on a limb that I'm more like to be correct on this turn too.

And FYI, Florida's peak was in January.
Winter...people outside.

For a guy who engenders a ton of hate-mail around here, you grade yourself quite high, which might explain the problem.

The good news is I agree about Larry Hogan. I like the guy. A lot.

I only get 'hate-mail' from a couple of those who tend to end up in the dog house, like you, Petey.
When one can't have a rational conversation and just try to bludgeon the other person, one resorts to 'hate-mail'.

But yeah, on this particular issue of the virus, my predictions have been darn close or spot on at every turn.
Same for the predictions of the impact politically on Trump and Trump's authoritarian meltdown.

Your predictions, not so good.

[jhu72]

Everything is just fine in Florida. Doubt anyone in the Sunshine State will notice the 50% increase.

It’ll go down as quickly as it went up. Floridians aren’t nearly as worked up as outsiders who don’t like that Desantis is a leader. Hmmmmm.

Meanwhile Maryland is on fire with Covid but you don’t post about that. Why?

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/07/ ... baltimore/

.... squirrel!

pretty big squirrel in our back yard.

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/07/ ... baltimore/
ANNAPOLIS, Md. (WJZ) — Less than half of people in Baltimore City are fully vaccinated.
Hospitalizations increased Tuesday. There are 208 people currently hospitalized with COVID-19 with 140 in acute care and 49 in the ICU.
In some neighborhoods, fewer than 30% of people have taken the vaccine. On Wednesday, Maryland recorded more than 400 new infections for the first time since May.

Baltimore’s NAACP Branch President Dr. Kobi Little said the risk of hospitalization and death without the shots is too high.
“In the Black community, we should be terribly, terribly concerned that our vaccination levels are so low because it means that we are incredibly vulnerable,” Rev. Little said at a town hall. “There are some Black zip codes in Baltimore City where the vaccination level is at 20%. That means that in every group of 10 people, 8 people are not vaccinated. It means that not just a majority, but the vast, overwhelming majority of people are susceptible.”

Mayor Brandon Scott pleaded with people to get the vaccine again on Wednesday. “100% of fatalities during the month of June in Maryland were from unvaccinated residents. It’s that plain and simple. Women lie. Men lie. The numbers don’t,“ Mayor Scott said.

Governor Hogan said the vaccine is remarkably effective and revealed at the Board of Public Works there have been very few breakthrough cases among those who’ve gotten the shots. He said they account for .07% of infections.

Dr. Schabelman told Hellgren the clock is ticking before Covid mutates again as cases increase at even greater numbers. “The virus spreads exponentially. Yes, we had 400 today, but we had 80 a couple of weeks ago. So we would expect this virus to spread in an exponential manner, and we could have thousands in a couple of weeks. So we have to be very, very careful. We have not reached heard immunity—and there are plenty of unvaccinated people still in Maryland,“ the doctor said.

... there is no comparison currently between MD and FLA. FLA is much worse. Of course things can change. MD won't go unscathed, but to pretend there is a comparison between the seriousness of the current situations between MD and FLA is just unrealistic.

[Peter Brown]

Everything is just fine in Florida. Doubt anyone in the Sunshine State will notice the 50% increase.

It’ll go down as quickly as it went up. Floridians aren’t nearly as worked up as outsiders who don’t like that Desantis is a leader. Hmmmmm.

Meanwhile Maryland is on fire with Covid but you don’t post about that. Why?

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/07/ ... baltimore/

.... squirrel!

pretty big squirrel in our back yard.

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/07/ ... baltimore/
ANNAPOLIS, Md. (WJZ) — Less than half of people in Baltimore City are fully vaccinated.
Hospitalizations increased Tuesday. There are 208 people currently hospitalized with COVID-19 with 140 in acute care and 49 in the ICU.
In some neighborhoods, fewer than 30% of people have taken the vaccine. On Wednesday, Maryland recorded more than 400 new infections for the first time since May.

Baltimore’s NAACP Branch President Dr. Kobi Little said the risk of hospitalization and death without the shots is too high.
“In the Black community, we should be terribly, terribly concerned that our vaccination levels are so low because it means that we are incredibly vulnerable,” Rev. Little said at a town hall. “There are some Black zip codes in Baltimore City where the vaccination level is at 20%. That means that in every group of 10 people, 8 people are not vaccinated. It means that not just a majority, but the vast, overwhelming majority of people are susceptible.”

Mayor Brandon Scott pleaded with people to get the vaccine again on Wednesday. “100% of fatalities during the month of June in Maryland were from unvaccinated residents. It’s that plain and simple. Women lie. Men lie. The numbers don’t,“ Mayor Scott said.

Governor Hogan said the vaccine is remarkably effective and revealed at the Board of Public Works there have been very few breakthrough cases among those who’ve gotten the shots. He said they account for .07% of infections.

Dr. Schabelman told Hellgren the clock is ticking before Covid mutates again as cases increase at even greater numbers. “The virus spreads exponentially. Yes, we had 400 today, but we had 80 a couple of weeks ago. So we would expect this virus to spread in an exponential manner, and we could have thousands in a couple of weeks. So we have to be very, very careful. We have not reached heard immunity—and there are plenty of unvaccinated people still in Maryland,“ the doctor said.

... there is no comparison currently between MD and FLA. FLA is much worse. Of course things can change. MD won't go unscathed, but to pretend there is a comparison between the seriousness of the current situations between MD and FLA is just unrealistic.

Let’s see what you’re saying in November.

(Many Democrats assume Floridians have different blood compositions; I am comfortably guided by the fact that, in fact, most Floridians are no different than most Marylanders when it comes to virus immunity - the virus does not simply start at the Florida-Georgia border - Florida is inside right now and has been for the past month…being inside in close quarters leads to Covid cases, not unlike a common cold. When Maryland returns to their inside ways come November, at the same time Florida is outside again, the reverse trends will hold true, and jhu72 will still remain committed to his cause ).

[MDlaxfan76]

Again, Florida's prior peak was in January.

Certainly might have been even worse if more people were inside.

The difference between MD and Florida (other than that MD was hit earlier, yet nevertheless has lower death per million pop) is that MD has a significantly higher vaccination penetration rate and across the board politicians in MD, both parties, including GOP Governor, Dem and GOP county and city executives are all pushing hard on vaccinations and other public health measures. Most importantly the vaccinations.

That's going to continue. And the counties and city are beginning to announce mask requirements as part of their back to school protocols.

By comparison, Florida is lower vaccination rate, and Governor is actively and aggressively discouraging any county or city or even private company efforts to reduce infections, whether required vaccination status or masking. Statewide mandates against any local government or private efforts. Governor is badmouthing any federal efforts.

So...businesses in Florida can't require vaccination for their staff and customers, schools can't even require masks, and counties and municipalities can't require vaccination or testing for back to work...

Yup, that's a recipe for a sh-tshow.

[ggait]

FL had a peak last summer and then another (slightly higher) one at year end.

FL has just surpassed its prior peaks for (i) new daily cases and (ii) hospitalizations.

TBD if FL will also blow past the prior peaks for daily deaths. Daily deaths are rising, but still not all that high.

Maybe deaths won't go up so much? The vax rate for older FL residents is pretty high and maybe the younger demo of infected people will have better survival results.

Given the newness of Delta, though, it seems pretty aggressive to oppose BOTH (i) mask measures and (ii) pro-vax measures. Seems to me that if you really hate masks, you should be going crazy pushing the vax.