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youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 6:27 pm This should answer your question....from the NCAA 2019 Rules book.

Interference
SECTION 8. A player may not interfere in any manner with the free movement
of an opponent, except when that opponent has possession of the ball, the ball
is in flight and within 5 yards of the players, or both players are within 5 yards
of a loose ball.

The key here is that no one has possession of the ball, therefore a wing player cannot make contact.

shoothi wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 7:27 pm Go back to the days of being able to hit the face off guy....he would have a mental clock in his head, knowing sooner rather than later, unless the wings were riding the guys out, a blow was coming or the wings could go for the ball. Enough standing around.

Pet peeve of mine as I believe the face off position is wayyyyyyy to specialized. Just the acronym alone FOGO (face off get off) is some what offensive to a player. Either you can play someform of midfield, ( offense or defense) or you can't. If not, get better before you go out there.


My understanding, this special face off person designate, was put in to give some kids at all levels a chance to play....now look at it. Heck the guy from Yale is in consideration for "the best player in the game". Not a knock on him, he is just going by the rules....but come on, to be thought of as the best player in game, when your own position name, FOGO, indicates you get off the field after face off....ridiculous.


Just my 2 cents

a fan wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 7:56 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 6:27 pm This should answer your question....from the NCAA 2019 Rules book.

Interference
SECTION 8. A player may not interfere in any manner with the free movement
of an opponent, except when that opponent has possession of the ball, the ball
is in flight and within 5 yards of the players, or both players are within 5 yards
of a loose ball.

The key here is that no one has possession of the ball, therefore a wing player cannot make contact.

It's a loose ball, is it not? Yes. So unless there is a rule specific to face offs?

I can't find anything in 2019's Rule 4, Section 3 on facing off preventing wingmen from checking a fogo's stick, for example.

Where are the refs on the board?

Chitown wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 10:42 pm Interesting question.

I faced off in the olden days. The object was to get the ball "out" or win it fast, because the wing players could run in and level you when you were in that crouch position or just coming out with the ball. I had my shoulder separated in the week before the Maryland game, and that really hurt.

I "understood" that the rules were changed to prevent that sort of hit, because the face-off middie is defenseless when low and fighting for the ball.


Maybe someone who has played recently would know the rules.

shoothi wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 8:08 pm I am not advocating removing the face off.

I believe a person who just faces off is a specialist....long ago....yes long ago, there was no face off specialist, just two middies who went to face off....there was some real good ones that could also play midfield. The role of the face off specialist came about several years ago and now has morphed into what we have now.

HooDat wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 10:41 am my understanding is that it is linked to the rule against making contact with a player on the ground.

I wouldn't mind seeing something that allows gradual pressure, or something, where you can't t-off on the FOGO's but you can apply pressure to move the other team's FOGO. But I don't really mean it, because I am against the idea of changing rules all the time. My basic instinct is quit tinkering.

Even the "greatest FOGO to walk the earth" was capable of being neutralized in the title game. I like the runs that face offs create.

It seems to be working fine....

ABV 8.3% wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 10:15 am You can also face off lefty.

3 b. 4.: The right hand may not touch any part of the head of the
crosse. The player’s feet may not touch his crosse. Both hands and feet
of each player must be to the left of the throat of his crosse. Each player
must be positioned so his entire body is to the left of the throat of his
crosse.

Illegal Body Check
SECTION 6. Illegal body checking includes the following actions:
a. The body checking of an opponent who is not in possession of the ball or
within 5 yards of a loose ball.
b. Initiating contact with an opponent from the rear or at or below the waist.
c. Initiating contact with an opponent above the shoulders of the opponent.
To be legal, a body check must be below the neck, and both hands of the
player applying the body check must remain in contact with his crosse.
Note: If a player is about to be body checked turns his back, ducks or jumps in such a
manner as to make what started to be a legal check appear illegal, no foul is committed
by the player applying the body check. The initial contact, not any secondary contact,
shall determine whether a body check is legal. No official should make the call “from
the rear” or “below the waist,” unless he sees the initial contact.
d. Initiating contact with an opponent who has any part of his body other than
his feet on the ground.