Race in America - Riots Explode in Chicago

[DMac]

Big Brother has been in NY for awhile now. Saw a cop going by a grocery store the other day when he suddenly came to a stop and parked next to a car where he waited for the driver to come out of the store and go to his car. Obviously he got some sort of ping from that car while just driving by. Big Brother is pretty much out of a job for the most part though, most folks these days are willing to feed them all info about themselves they'd ever want.

[jhu72]

Chauvin got a raw deal.

Do you ever question why you hate police so much (after all, here you are posting a Chauvin article EVEN AFTER his conviction), yet you never post anything about the thousands of other murders of blacks in America?

... I realize fully that scum bag Trumpnista such as yourself view Chauvin as a hero. I gave you just one more reason to idealize him.

[cradleandshoot]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

[jhu72]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

... actually I have to go with C&S on this one. Are there any left hand turns in NJ??

[Peter Brown]

Chauvin got a raw deal.

Do you ever question why you hate police so much (after all, here you are posting a Chauvin article EVEN AFTER his conviction), yet you never post anything about the thousands of other murders of blacks in America?

... I realize fully that scum bag Trumpnista such as yourself view Chauvin as a hero. I gave you just one more reason to idealize him.

No he’s not a hero.

Why do you hate police so much?

[cradleandshoot]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

... actually I have to go with C&S on this one. Are there any left hand turns in NJ??

I'm guessing they all lead to Atlantic City.

[6x6]

Big Brother has been in NY for awhile now. Saw a cop going by a grocery store the other day when he suddenly came to a stop and parked next to a car where he waited for the driver to come out of the store and go to his car. Obviously he got some sort of ping from that car while just driving by. Big Brother is pretty much out of a job for the most part though, most folks these days are willing to feed them all info about themselves they'd ever want.

DMac you’ve got it all wrong, the cop wasn’t waiting, ready to jack somebody up thanks to the help from technological advances. No sir, he just happened to spot his brother-in-laws’ car. So he pulled in, got on his phone and told him to pickup a dozen doughnuts and a quart of chocolate milk for him.

However, when computers started to be put in police cars in the early 80s it certainly did change things. Previously, many cities had a printed form, some called it the Hot Sheet, listing info about stolen vehicles. Cops got the daily printout at roll call each day. Might have seen them being used on Dragnet or other cop shows back in the day. With the MDTs, Mobile Data Terminals, cops just ran the plates when driving by, bingo that car is hot. In addition, they would have had printed daily wanted sheets for suspects with warrants. Not sure how many forests were decimated back then due to all the paper that was used. The MDTs are long gone, replaced by laptops with far more info, resources and uses you’re alluding too.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Chauvin got a raw deal.

Do you ever question why you hate police so much (after all, here you are posting a Chauvin article EVEN AFTER his conviction), yet you never post anything about the thousands of other murders of blacks in America?

... I realize fully that scum bag Trumpnista such as yourself view Chauvin as a hero. I gave you just one more reason to idealize him.

Chauvin is just a law and order guy. Anyone that disagrees is anti-law enforcement. I saw Newt Gingrich on FoxNews say so.

[cradleandshoot]

Big Brother has been in NY for awhile now. Saw a cop going by a grocery store the other day when he suddenly came to a stop and parked next to a car where he waited for the driver to come out of the store and go to his car. Obviously he got some sort of ping from that car while just driving by. Big Brother is pretty much out of a job for the most part though, most folks these days are willing to feed them all info about themselves they'd ever want.

DMac you’ve got it all wrong, the cop wasn’t waiting, ready to jack somebody up thanks to the help from technological advances. No sir, he just happened to spot his brother-in-laws’ car. So he pulled in, got on his phone and told him to pickup a dozen doughnuts and a quart of chocolate milk for him.

However, when computers started to be put in police cars in the early 80s it certainly did change things. Previously, many cities had a printed form, some called it the Hot Sheet, listing info about stolen vehicles. Cops got the daily printout at roll call each day. Might have seen them being used on Dragnet or other cop shows back in the day. With the MDTs, Mobile Data Terminals, cops just ran the plates when driving by, bingo that car is hot. In addition, they would have had printed daily wanted sheets for suspects with warrants. Not sure how many forests were decimated back then due to all the paper that was used. The MDTs are long gone, replaced by laptops with far more info, resources and uses you’re alluding too.

How much plastic and petroleum products did it take to make all of those laptop's??

[DMac]

Big Brother has been in NY for awhile now. Saw a cop going by a grocery store the other day when he suddenly came to a stop and parked next to a car where he waited for the driver to come out of the store and go to his car. Obviously he got some sort of ping from that car while just driving by. Big Brother is pretty much out of a job for the most part though, most folks these days are willing to feed them all info about themselves they'd ever want.

DMac you’ve got it all wrong, the cop wasn’t waiting, ready to jack somebody up thanks to the help from technological advances. No sir, he just happened to spot his brother-in-laws’ car. So he pulled in, got on his phone and told him to pickup a dozen doughnuts and a quart of chocolate milk for him.

However, when computers started to be put in police cars in the early 80s it certainly did change things. Previously, many cities had a printed form, some called it the Hot Sheet, listing info about stolen vehicles. Cops got the daily printout at roll call each day. Might have seen them being used on Dragnet or other cop shows back in the day. With the MDTs, Mobile Data Terminals, cops just ran the plates when driving by, bingo that car is hot. In addition, they would have had printed daily wanted sheets for suspects with warrants. Not sure how many forests were decimated back then due to all the paper that was used. The MDTs are long gone, replaced by laptops with far more info, resources and uses you’re alluding too.

Yup, and I really don't have any problem with this. You keep your schidt together (license, reg, ins) and it drastically lowers the odds of people like me getting pulled over. People are just stupid if they don't realize how things work today, to say nothing of being on camera pretty much everywhere you go too.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

I was pulled over years ago with Ohio plates in NJ. The cop happened to pull up next to me and then fell behind and then I knew the lights were coming on.....yep. I don’t even remember what excuse he gave.

[Peter Brown]

Chauvin got a raw deal.

Do you ever question why you hate police so much (after all, here you are posting a Chauvin article EVEN AFTER his conviction), yet you never post anything about the thousands of other murders of blacks in America?

... I realize fully that scum bag Trumpnista such as yourself view Chauvin as a hero. I gave you just one more reason to idealize him.

Chauvin is just a law and order guy. Anyone that disagrees is anti-law enforcement. I saw Newt Gingrich on FoxNews say so.

TLD’s attempt to be cute will unfortunately be met with nodding ‘yeahs’ by the dumny crowd he identifies with.

Meanwhile, this is an actual quote by Newt Gingrich (who agreed with the decision):

"If we are in fact systemically racist, how did the system convict a white policeman? The system worked."

Hard to argue with that common sense observation, though I’m sure the FLP squad will give it a go.

[DMac]

Doesn't look as if things are running too smoothly in the hood.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/black ... d=msedgntp

[cradleandshoot]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

I was pulled over years ago with Ohio plates in NJ. The cop happened to pull up next to me and then fell behind and then I knew the lights were coming on.....yep. I don’t even remember what excuse he gave.

My NYS plates got me pulled over and ticketed several times when I was stationed at Ft Bragg. Guilty of driving while being a Yankee from NYS was the only charge I could understand. I suppose the charges would have been doubled or tripled if I had been a black driver with NYS plates.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

I was pulled over years ago with Ohio plates in NJ. The cop happened to pull up next to me and then fell behind and then I knew the lights were coming on.....yep. I don’t even remember what excuse he gave.

My NYS plates got me pulled over and ticketed several times when I was stationed at Ft Bragg. Guilty of driving while being a Yankee from NYS was the only charge I could understand. I suppose the charges would have been doubled or tripled if I had been a black driver with NYS plates.

What was the charge?

[Peter Brown]

Doesn't look as if things are running too smoothly in the hood.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/black ... d=msedgntp

Let it burn, IMO. No way if you are a cop will you do anything other than come after the body drops. Let the residents fight it out. Knife fights end in death only. Don’t break anything up.

Business owners will leave in droves. Jobs will be scarce. Poverty and ruin not far behind.

Not one FLP’er will care as the hood disintegrates.

[jhu72]

Doesn't look as if things are running too smoothly in the hood.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/black ... d=msedgntp

... you might want to check some other sources. The real story is the square is baricaded as a memorial for Floyd. People bringing flowers, rememberances etc., sitting them in the street. People aren't buying anything. This is not a crime story (as the Washington Examiner / NY Post and Herr Goebbels want you to believe) It is a problem for business men in the square. Minneapolis mayors office needs to resolve the issue.

https://www.blackenterprise.com/black-o ... cial-help/

[ggait]

"If we are in fact systemically racist, how did the system convict a white policeman? The system worked."

Newt is as much of a racist d-bag troll as you are Petey.

Floyd, basically, was lynched. In broad daylight. For 9.5 minutes. For 3 minutes after Floyd stopped breathing. With literally zero explanation or rationale for the cop's behavior. In front of a crowd of eyewitnesses. And while being video-taped by multiple cameras. On a 1-10 scale of murder case slam-dunkedness, Floyd's case is an 11.

So what does that tell us?

1. Chauvin presumably only did this believing that he could get away with it.

2. In fact, Chauvin did get away with it before! DOJ is now looking into the excluded evidence (including body cam video!) of a 2017 incident where Chauvin choked a kid to unconsciousness, then "Floyd-ed" him (face down on floor, handcuffs behind back, knee restraint) for 9 minutes (neck) and then 8 minutes (back). Luckily, kid did not die. Video never released. Zero action taken against Chauvin. Only coming to light now -- four forking years later.

3. Even turned up to 11, many people were (reasonably) quite surprised/relieved that Chauvin was convicted. Because it hardly ever happens. Even with mountains of evidence.

4. We all know that absent eye witness video tape (a fairly recent phenomenon), Chauvin totally walks. I mean he walked in 2017 WITH video! No way he gets convicted just on the basis of a dozen eyewitnesses.

5. Look at the MPD read out of the incident -- medical distress.... Without the cell phone video going viral, the cover-up and fix were in and would have worked.

So...respectfully...STFU and please go away. Your racist troll-ness are not welcome here. Shouldn't be welcome anywhere else either.

[cradleandshoot]

"If we are in fact systemically racist, how did the system convict a white policeman? The system worked."

Newt is as much of a racist d-bag troll as you are Petey.

Floyd, basically, was lynched. In broad daylight. For 9.5 minutes. For 3 minutes after Floyd stopped breathing. With literally zero explanation or rationale for the cop's behavior. In front of a crowd of eyewitnesses. And while being video-taped by multiple cameras. On a 1-10 scale of murder case slam-dunkedness, Floyd's case is an 11.

So what does that tell us?

1. Chauvin presumably only did this believing that he could get away with it.

2. In fact, Chauvin did get away with it before! DOJ is now looking into the excluded evidence (including body cam video!) of a 2017 incident where Chauvin choked a kid to unconsciousness, then "Floyd-ed" him (face down on floor, handcuffs behind back, knee restraint) for 9 minutes (neck) and then 8 minutes (back). Luckily, kid did not die. Video never released. Zero action taken against Chauvin. Only coming to light now -- four forking years later.

3. Even turned up to 11, many people were (reasonably) quite surprised/relieved that Chauvin was convicted. Because it hardly ever happens. Even with mountains of evidence.

4. We all know that absent video tape (a fairly recent phenomenon), Chauvin totally walks. I mean he walked in 2017 WITH video! No way he gets convicted just on the basis of a dozen eyewitnesses.

5. Look at the MPD read out of the incident -- medical distress.... Without the cell phone video going viral, the cover-up and fix were in and would have worked.

So...respectfully...STFU and please go away. Your racist troll-ness are not welcome here. Shouldn't be welcome anywhere else either.

To quote HRC, what difference does that make at this point in time? Chauvin was never charged in this incident. He probably should have been but he wasn't. Maybe this is the Reason why AG Garland is investigating the entire Minnesota police dept.

[cradleandshoot]

Lt did not receive a ticket either time for the paper tag. So it was legal in VA. Out of state registrations are obviously legal in VA and in every state. Interstate commerce, you know. Many places use paper tags. CO uses them for example and until recently it was legal to put them in the window. Despite the law change, people out here (and many dealers) still put tags on the window.

FYI the law in many jurisdictions is that a traffic stop for tags becomes illegal once the officer sees the temp tags. So any evidence thereafter discovered is fruit of the poisoned tree. Makes sense since temp tags is a common pretext used by cops to make otherwise unlawful stops.

Didn’t realize they didn’t fire the jerk cop until the video came out. Once it did, he was gone in an instant. The lawsuit will discover if they disciplined the jerk cop. Which they should have.

Don't temp tags need to be verified with a temporary registration. I'm not 100% up to speed on the law in NYS. I understand it in the past to be that you don't drive that vehicle on the road without valid tags. They are even more anal retentive about proof of insurance and then a legal registration and inspection. I know the temporary tags thing in NYS is an invitation to get pulled over, especially by our beloved NYS Troopers. I have seen cars with temp tags written on cardboard with a sharpie. Sounds very hinky to me.

I thought the law in New York was that the only cars allowed to be pulled over are those from out of state, especially New Jersey.

I don't know counselor, you Jersey boys are an exception to all of the rules.

I was pulled over years ago with Ohio plates in NJ. The cop happened to pull up next to me and then fell behind and then I knew the lights were coming on.....yep. I don’t even remember what excuse he gave.

My NYS plates got me pulled over and ticketed several times when I was stationed at Ft Bragg. Guilty of driving while being a Yankee from NYS was the only charge I could understand. I suppose the charges would have been doubled or tripled if I had been a black driver with NYS plates.

What was the charge?

Driving under the influence of being a Yankee. Serious chit around Fayetteville in the very early 80's. Funny but when I got rid of those NYS plates the local cops didn't mess with me anymore.