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Re: Cornell 2023

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Chousnake wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:37 am Just a disappointing game and outcome.
Agreed.

With the loss, Cornell drops to #7 RPI. The issue is that of the 6 teams in front of them, only one will get an AQ, meaning Cornell is down to the #6 (of 8) spot in at-large qualifying (I know it's not as simple as that, but just a high-level view of RPI metrics).

In other words, things have just become far more precarious for the Big Red.

That said, this is a very good team with a great coaching staff. I only watched the first quarter (listened to the last 3 in the car), but it seemed like Cornell was plagued with sloppy play and hindered by a number of great saves by the Harvard goalie. Cornell is a better team than what we saw yesterday and I'm confident that they'll be ready for Marquette on Tuesday. And hats off to Harvard for an exceptional game, especially defensively: after Cornell's 3-goals-in-4-minutes to open the game, they held a Cornell team averaging 20 goals/game over their last three outings to only 5 goals in the final 56 minutes. Just astonishing...
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Re: Cornell 2023

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After having digested yesterday's disappointing loss, it's time to move on. I did give thought, however, as how Cornell could put up 3 goals in 4+ minutes, and then another 5 the rest of the game.
-One overarching thought is that the offense on the field yesterday is very different than the one we saw last season. Two players were missing who contributed just under 100 goals - John Piatelli - 66 and Michael Long - 30+. The attack unit was one of the two or three best in the country. Clearly, it was the priority of opposing defenses to scheme against.
My point is that this year's mid-field lines (1 goal yesterday) do not have the same luxury (compared to last year's middies) of benefiting from the skewed focus other teams directed at Piatell-Kirst-Long.

-My other thought concerning the offense is that other than moving Kirst around to get him different/better looks, I did not see any adjustments. I could be mistaken, but we continued to dodge north-south throughout the game. Harvard's early and aggressive slides pretty much precluded good looks there; they also were well prepared for reversals off of these dodges.
I watched part of another high level game later in the day and the analyst referenced the notion of "changing up the point of attack." That clicked in my mind something I thought about during the game. Why not try horizontal/wing dodging (i.e., change point of attack) - it would have provided more passing and dodging options and changed up Harvard's initial slide and secondary support.

'The boys need to take the next four opponents one at a time. I'm sure coaches Buczek and Stevens will have them ready.
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Huge game today, I did not expect this when I first saw the schedule. Still can't believe that this is NOT Syracuse Tuesday.

https://cornellbigred.com/documents/202 ... _Notes.pdf

When is the last time Big Red played "new" opponent for the first time as part of the regular season?
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Obviously, Cornell better take care of biz today. Marquette beat PSU who beat CU...

And with Army in WP this weekend...yikes. CU doesn't win both these games, Ivy Tourney win may be their only option.
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Re: Cornell 2023

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CU88 wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:50 am When is the last time Big Red played "new" opponent for the first time as part of the regular season?
2019, the year Cornell went to South Bend and beat ND, only to be slighted for a tourney bid in favor of inferior (imo) Notre Dame and Johns Hopkins squads (Johns Hopkins was a laughable 8-7 that year - but they were "good" losses! - and would go on to get trounced by Notre Dame in the first round of the NCAAs), Cornell played first-year St Bonaventure midway through the campaign.

I'm still convinced that the RPI hit of scheduling a first-year team was the reason for the NCAA snub. I mean, what's an 18-3 win against St. B's compared to 20-9 and 18-7 humiliations at the hands of PSU and Towson, respectively?
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ICGrad wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:07 am
CU88 wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:50 am When is the last time Big Red played "new" opponent for the first time as part of the regular season?
2019, the year Cornell went to South Bend and beat ND, only to be slighted for a tourney bid in favor of inferior (imo) Notre Dame and Johns Hopkins squads (Johns Hopkins was a laughable 8-7 that year - but they were "good" losses! - and would go on to get trounced by Notre Dame in the first round of the NCAAs), Cornell played first-year St Bonaventure midway through the campaign.

I'm still convinced that the RPI hit of scheduling a first-year team was the reason for the NCAA snub. I mean, what's an 18-3 win against St. B's compared to 20-9 and 18-7 humiliations at the hands of PSU and Towson, respectively?
it was.
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OMG...camera!
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Re: Cornell 2023

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Micahel Long is back
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Re: Cornell 2023

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Nice! Big Red looking good...

B'ville guy stirring things up...nice to see

Refs are terrible though

Goalie change Marquette?

Great team D Cornell
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CU77 wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:14 pm Micahel Long is back
And then not back. Replaced by Piatelli with about 4 min left in Q1 ...

And then back! at the start of Q2

Oh yeah and the score is 9-1 ...
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I didn’t watch either game but how did Penn State and Michigan lose to Marquette? They’ve turned the ball over on nearly every possession today. Brutal.
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Interesting that Michigan(Naples) & PSU(Levittown) were neutral site games for Marquette..not sure what that means?
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Re: Cornell 2023

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CU77 wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:26 pm
CU77 wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:14 pm Micahel Long is back
And then not back. Replaced by Piatelli with about 4 min left in Q1 ...

And then back! at the start of Q2

Oh yeah and the score is 9-1 ...
It's got to be a bit of a balancing act of getting him some live game action but not overdoing it/aggravating anything in a midweek tilt against an apparently overmatched opponent.
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Re: Cornell 2023

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CU77 wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:26 pm
CU77 wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:14 pm Micahel Long is back
And then not back. Replaced by Piatelli with about 4 min left in Q1 ...

And then back! at the start of Q2

Oh yeah and the score is 9-1 ...
I'm ok with them using Long sparingly in a game they're winning by 9 goals.

Great to see him back, though.
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Henpecked wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:28 pm I didn’t watch either game but how did Penn State and Michigan lose to Marquette? They’ve turned the ball over on nearly every possession today. Brutal.
psu tried to match them on turnovers and marquette made up for them by taking the faceoffs.
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Re: Cornell 2023

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Cornell certainly knows how to bounce back from its losses. It would be sweet if Long can stay healthy from here on out this season.
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Re: Cornell 2023

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CU77 wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:14 pm Micahel Long is back
Yes. Ignore my post from a few days ago assuming he would not play today and that he might consider shutting down for the season......
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Re: Cornell 2023

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At this point, let's keep everyone healthy for what appears to be a very important battle on Saturday at Army.
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Good win
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Re: Cornell 2023

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That's a good bounce back victory over a Marquette team with wins over PSU and Michigan. Looks like they are back on track offensively after Saturday, and the defense is stout. Looking for a statement win over Army on Saturday.
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