Bandito wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:24 pm
No surprise there is no chatter on this thread about the Debate Debacles by Democrats Wednesday night. Why so quiet? Is it because Democrats are doomed on 11/8?
Fetterman was utterly destroyed by Dr. Oz. Like completely obliterated. It was so bad, Fetterman makes Biden look like a Rhodes Scholar! An exit poll by a local news station showed Oz won the debate 83% to 17%. This has to be the biggest failure of a debate that I can remember, and I remember how bad Biden was vs Trump. There is no way anyone with a functional brain can vote for this clown. No surprise he is a Democrat. He should step down from the race. He is obviously is not physically able to perform the duties of a sitting US Senator. He also wants to put convicted murderers back on the streets. Has he not seen what Philly looks like lately? Polls and betting markets are showing Oz pulling ahead of this giant oooof and I foresee a win for Oz.
Hochul vs Zeldin: By all accounts, Zeldin won the debate and hopefully the governors race. Hochul is so out of touch with the voters in NY. They are worried about the skyrocketing crime and horrid state of a Democrat led economy. NY should never be this close given the braindead liberal zombies in NYC and the bustling (more like dying) upstate cities. Yet she kept harping about abortion. Killing babies is sadly and satanically legal in the state and is not a major issue in the state. She will lose. Zeldin is the right choice for NY.
Kari Lake is up big on Katie Hobbs in AZ. Why is she so afraid to debate? Hobbs is a laughingstock.
Republicans will easily take the House, likely take the Senate and win many governors races, just a few weeks ago was thought to be impossible.
That of course unless the fix is in like it was in 2020. Good riddance to such a horrid political party.
Fettermans performance was beyond terrible. I read something awhile ago that the D game plan was if Fetterman won he would step down and allow the governor to name a new senator. I think that would be a prudent move. By all accounts Fetterman lost any chance of winning last night.
I don't think that's remotely the plan, but if a Dem inclined voter in this cycle was worried about his capacities, the very likely Dem in the Gov's office would indeed be in place to appoint someone else if Fetterman doesn't continue to improve and feel good about his representation.
If I was a surrogate, I might even make that point in the press.
Right now, they're going to pound really hard on Oz's abortion gaffe, confirming the worst suspicions. That'll outweigh Fetterman's capacity to deal with things on his feet...he'll be a relaible vote for choice and all the other issues of keeping government out of people''s bedrooms. Of course, some people may prefer a slime ball. Indeed, a lot of people...
So in your opinion Oz is in the "slime ball" category?? In your opinion does Fetterman chasing down the black jogger and holding him with a loaded shotgun pointed at him sound like a rational decision that you would make? I know exactly what I would do in that situation.. I would call 911 and let the police sort it out. The only explanation from Fetterman reads like a novel from SE Hinton... That was then, this is now...
Yes, Oz is a slime ball, a disgusting grifter...do better homework.
Copy that, so what is your opinion of Fetterman?? Does the chasing down the black jogger and pointing a shotgun at him bother you at all?? I'll repeat your own advice to me.. do better homework... In less than 2 weeks the people of Pennsylvania will make their decision. Will you respect that decision???
"respect" as in not claim that the election was stolen through Venezuelan or Italian software or ..., yeah, I'll respect the election integrity unless a court says otherwise based on actual evidence.
But no, I won't "respect" Oz.
Of course what people have done in their life concerns me.
How they handle those mistakes is what matters most, though, when looking forward.
I'm not an avid fan of Fetterman, not my state, but I do know that Oz is pure slime ball and I don't want to see him in the Senate. I also don't want the Senate to flip to MAGA control. House being overrun by MAGA is bad enough, but if Senate as well, it'll be a total sh-tshow. Not good for the country.
It is a tough call for the residents of Pennsylvania. I honestly don't know that much about Oz outside of his TV persona. I'm not certain about how you put a person in the sleazeball category. My criteria would have started with HRC at the top of my list of sleazeballs her former friend, some guy named trump is next on my list of sleazeballs.
No, it's not a close call:
I didn't put him at the top of the list, but profiting off of phony baloney medical 'cures' sold to the gullible and/or desperate certainly makes the list.
Aside but when does Oprah get held accountable for her role in the existence of a lot of shaky people like OZ and Dr Phil? Or as long as she keeps tossing cheap cars at her audience and we can point to the color purple she gets a free pass? Is Oprah just a female Jesse Jackson? I.e. a 80s/90s artifice of boomer liberal white guilt?
Bandito wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:24 pm
No surprise there is no chatter on this thread about the Debate Debacles by Democrats Wednesday night. Why so quiet? Is it because Democrats are doomed on 11/8?
Fetterman was utterly destroyed by Dr. Oz. Like completely obliterated. It was so bad, Fetterman makes Biden look like a Rhodes Scholar! An exit poll by a local news station showed Oz won the debate 83% to 17%. This has to be the biggest failure of a debate that I can remember, and I remember how bad Biden was vs Trump. There is no way anyone with a functional brain can vote for this clown. No surprise he is a Democrat. He should step down from the race. He is obviously is not physically able to perform the duties of a sitting US Senator. He also wants to put convicted murderers back on the streets. Has he not seen what Philly looks like lately? Polls and betting markets are showing Oz pulling ahead of this giant oooof and I foresee a win for Oz.
Hochul vs Zeldin: By all accounts, Zeldin won the debate and hopefully the governors race. Hochul is so out of touch with the voters in NY. They are worried about the skyrocketing crime and horrid state of a Democrat led economy. NY should never be this close given the braindead liberal zombies in NYC and the bustling (more like dying) upstate cities. Yet she kept harping about abortion. Killing babies is sadly and satanically legal in the state and is not a major issue in the state. She will lose. Zeldin is the right choice for NY.
Kari Lake is up big on Katie Hobbs in AZ. Why is she so afraid to debate? Hobbs is a laughingstock.
Republicans will easily take the House, likely take the Senate and win many governors races, just a few weeks ago was thought to be impossible.
That of course unless the fix is in like it was in 2020. Good riddance to such a horrid political party.
Fettermans performance was beyond terrible. I read something awhile ago that the D game plan was if Fetterman won he would step down and allow the governor to name a new senator. I think that would be a prudent move. By all accounts Fetterman lost any chance of winning last night.
I don't think that's remotely the plan, but if a Dem inclined voter in this cycle was worried about his capacities, the very likely Dem in the Gov's office would indeed be in place to appoint someone else if Fetterman doesn't continue to improve and feel good about his representation.
If I was a surrogate, I might even make that point in the press.
Right now, they're going to pound really hard on Oz's abortion gaffe, confirming the worst suspicions. That'll outweigh Fetterman's capacity to deal with things on his feet...he'll be a relaible vote for choice and all the other issues of keeping government out of people''s bedrooms. Of course, some people may prefer a slime ball. Indeed, a lot of people...
So in your opinion Oz is in the "slime ball" category?? In your opinion does Fetterman chasing down the black jogger and holding him with a loaded shotgun pointed at him sound like a rational decision that you would make? I know exactly what I would do in that situation.. I would call 911 and let the police sort it out. The only explanation from Fetterman reads like a novel from SE Hinton... That was then, this is now...
Yes, Oz is a slime ball, a disgusting grifter...do better homework.
Copy that, so what is your opinion of Fetterman?? Does the chasing down the black jogger and pointing a shotgun at him bother you at all?? I'll repeat your own advice to me.. do better homework... In less than 2 weeks the people of Pennsylvania will make their decision. Will you respect that decision???
"respect" as in not claim that the election was stolen through Venezuelan or Italian software or ..., yeah, I'll respect the election integrity unless a court says otherwise based on actual evidence.
But no, I won't "respect" Oz.
Of course what people have done in their life concerns me.
How they handle those mistakes is what matters most, though, when looking forward.
I'm not an avid fan of Fetterman, not my state, but I do know that Oz is pure slime ball and I don't want to see him in the Senate. I also don't want the Senate to flip to MAGA control. House being overrun by MAGA is bad enough, but if Senate as well, it'll be a total sh-tshow. Not good for the country.
It is a tough call for the residents of Pennsylvania. I honestly don't know that much about Oz outside of his TV persona. I'm not certain about how you put a person in the sleazeball category. My criteria would have started with HRC at the top of my list of sleazeballs her former friend, some guy named trump is next on my list of sleazeballs.
No, it's not a close call:
I didn't put him at the top of the list, but profiting off of phony baloney medical 'cures' sold to the gullible and/or desperate certainly makes the list.
Aside but when does Oprah get held accountable for her role in the existence of a lot of shaky people like OZ and Dr Phil? Or as long as she keeps tossing cheap cars at her audience and we can point to the color purple she gets a free pass? Is Oprah just a female Jesse Jackson? I.e. a 80s/90s artifice of boomer liberal white guilt?
I think just a bad, bad mistake...has she spoken about Oz recently?
Bandito wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:24 pm
No surprise there is no chatter on this thread about the Debate Debacles by Democrats Wednesday night. Why so quiet? Is it because Democrats are doomed on 11/8?
Fetterman was utterly destroyed by Dr. Oz. Like completely obliterated. It was so bad, Fetterman makes Biden look like a Rhodes Scholar! An exit poll by a local news station showed Oz won the debate 83% to 17%. This has to be the biggest failure of a debate that I can remember, and I remember how bad Biden was vs Trump. There is no way anyone with a functional brain can vote for this clown. No surprise he is a Democrat. He should step down from the race. He is obviously is not physically able to perform the duties of a sitting US Senator. He also wants to put convicted murderers back on the streets. Has he not seen what Philly looks like lately? Polls and betting markets are showing Oz pulling ahead of this giant oooof and I foresee a win for Oz.
Hochul vs Zeldin: By all accounts, Zeldin won the debate and hopefully the governors race. Hochul is so out of touch with the voters in NY. They are worried about the skyrocketing crime and horrid state of a Democrat led economy. NY should never be this close given the braindead liberal zombies in NYC and the bustling (more like dying) upstate cities. Yet she kept harping about abortion. Killing babies is sadly and satanically legal in the state and is not a major issue in the state. She will lose. Zeldin is the right choice for NY.
Kari Lake is up big on Katie Hobbs in AZ. Why is she so afraid to debate? Hobbs is a laughingstock.
Republicans will easily take the House, likely take the Senate and win many governors races, just a few weeks ago was thought to be impossible.
That of course unless the fix is in like it was in 2020. Good riddance to such a horrid political party.
Fettermans performance was beyond terrible. I read something awhile ago that the D game plan was if Fetterman won he would step down and allow the governor to name a new senator. I think that would be a prudent move. By all accounts Fetterman lost any chance of winning last night.
I don't think that's remotely the plan, but if a Dem inclined voter in this cycle was worried about his capacities, the very likely Dem in the Gov's office would indeed be in place to appoint someone else if Fetterman doesn't continue to improve and feel good about his representation.
If I was a surrogate, I might even make that point in the press.
Right now, they're going to pound really hard on Oz's abortion gaffe, confirming the worst suspicions. That'll outweigh Fetterman's capacity to deal with things on his feet...he'll be a relaible vote for choice and all the other issues of keeping government out of people''s bedrooms. Of course, some people may prefer a slime ball. Indeed, a lot of people...
So in your opinion Oz is in the "slime ball" category?? In your opinion does Fetterman chasing down the black jogger and holding him with a loaded shotgun pointed at him sound like a rational decision that you would make? I know exactly what I would do in that situation.. I would call 911 and let the police sort it out. The only explanation from Fetterman reads like a novel from SE Hinton... That was then, this is now...
Yes, Oz is a slime ball, a disgusting grifter...do better homework.
Copy that, so what is your opinion of Fetterman?? Does the chasing down the black jogger and pointing a shotgun at him bother you at all?? I'll repeat your own advice to me.. do better homework... In less than 2 weeks the people of Pennsylvania will make their decision. Will you respect that decision???
"respect" as in not claim that the election was stolen through Venezuelan or Italian software or ..., yeah, I'll respect the election integrity unless a court says otherwise based on actual evidence.
But no, I won't "respect" Oz.
Of course what people have done in their life concerns me.
How they handle those mistakes is what matters most, though, when looking forward.
I'm not an avid fan of Fetterman, not my state, but I do know that Oz is pure slime ball and I don't want to see him in the Senate. I also don't want the Senate to flip to MAGA control. House being overrun by MAGA is bad enough, but if Senate as well, it'll be a total sh-tshow. Not good for the country.
It is a tough call for the residents of Pennsylvania. I honestly don't know that much about Oz outside of his TV persona. I'm not certain about how you put a person in the sleazeball category. My criteria would have started with HRC at the top of my list of sleazeballs her former friend, some guy named trump is next on my list of sleazeballs.
No, it's not a close call:
I didn't put him at the top of the list, but profiting off of phony baloney medical 'cures' sold to the gullible and/or desperate certainly makes the list.
Aside but when does Oprah get held accountable for her role in the existence of a lot of shaky people like OZ and Dr Phil? Or as long as she keeps tossing cheap cars at her audience and we can point to the color purple she gets a free pass? Is Oprah just a female Jesse Jackson? I.e. a 80s/90s artifice of boomer liberal white guilt?
I have wondered what Oprah thinks of Dr. Oz. I never thought of her as a Jesse Jackson type. He is pure grifter. Oprah actually worked a long time to build a career. She succeeded against unbelievable odds. I don’t believe I ever saw an episode of her TV show.
Bandito wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:24 pm
No surprise there is no chatter on this thread about the Debate Debacles by Democrats Wednesday night. Why so quiet? Is it because Democrats are doomed on 11/8?
Fetterman was utterly destroyed by Dr. Oz. Like completely obliterated. It was so bad, Fetterman makes Biden look like a Rhodes Scholar! An exit poll by a local news station showed Oz won the debate 83% to 17%. This has to be the biggest failure of a debate that I can remember, and I remember how bad Biden was vs Trump. There is no way anyone with a functional brain can vote for this clown. No surprise he is a Democrat. He should step down from the race. He is obviously is not physically able to perform the duties of a sitting US Senator. He also wants to put convicted murderers back on the streets. Has he not seen what Philly looks like lately? Polls and betting markets are showing Oz pulling ahead of this giant oooof and I foresee a win for Oz.
Hochul vs Zeldin: By all accounts, Zeldin won the debate and hopefully the governors race. Hochul is so out of touch with the voters in NY. They are worried about the skyrocketing crime and horrid state of a Democrat led economy. NY should never be this close given the braindead liberal zombies in NYC and the bustling (more like dying) upstate cities. Yet she kept harping about abortion. Killing babies is sadly and satanically legal in the state and is not a major issue in the state. She will lose. Zeldin is the right choice for NY.
Kari Lake is up big on Katie Hobbs in AZ. Why is she so afraid to debate? Hobbs is a laughingstock.
Republicans will easily take the House, likely take the Senate and win many governors races, just a few weeks ago was thought to be impossible.
That of course unless the fix is in like it was in 2020. Good riddance to such a horrid political party.
Fettermans performance was beyond terrible. I read something awhile ago that the D game plan was if Fetterman won he would step down and allow the governor to name a new senator. I think that would be a prudent move. By all accounts Fetterman lost any chance of winning last night.
I don't think that's remotely the plan, but if a Dem inclined voter in this cycle was worried about his capacities, the very likely Dem in the Gov's office would indeed be in place to appoint someone else if Fetterman doesn't continue to improve and feel good about his representation.
If I was a surrogate, I might even make that point in the press.
Right now, they're going to pound really hard on Oz's abortion gaffe, confirming the worst suspicions. That'll outweigh Fetterman's capacity to deal with things on his feet...he'll be a relaible vote for choice and all the other issues of keeping government out of people''s bedrooms. Of course, some people may prefer a slime ball. Indeed, a lot of people...
So in your opinion Oz is in the "slime ball" category?? In your opinion does Fetterman chasing down the black jogger and holding him with a loaded shotgun pointed at him sound like a rational decision that you would make? I know exactly what I would do in that situation.. I would call 911 and let the police sort it out. The only explanation from Fetterman reads like a novel from SE Hinton... That was then, this is now...
Yes, Oz is a slime ball, a disgusting grifter...do better homework.
Copy that, so what is your opinion of Fetterman?? Does the chasing down the black jogger and pointing a shotgun at him bother you at all?? I'll repeat your own advice to me.. do better homework... In less than 2 weeks the people of Pennsylvania will make their decision. Will you respect that decision???
"respect" as in not claim that the election was stolen through Venezuelan or Italian software or ..., yeah, I'll respect the election integrity unless a court says otherwise based on actual evidence.
But no, I won't "respect" Oz.
Of course what people have done in their life concerns me.
How they handle those mistakes is what matters most, though, when looking forward.
I'm not an avid fan of Fetterman, not my state, but I do know that Oz is pure slime ball and I don't want to see him in the Senate. I also don't want the Senate to flip to MAGA control. House being overrun by MAGA is bad enough, but if Senate as well, it'll be a total sh-tshow. Not good for the country.
It is a tough call for the residents of Pennsylvania. I honestly don't know that much about Oz outside of his TV persona. I'm not certain about how you put a person in the sleazeball category. My criteria would have started with HRC at the top of my list of sleazeballs her former friend, some guy named trump is next on my list of sleazeballs.
No, it's not a close call:
I didn't put him at the top of the list, but profiting off of phony baloney medical 'cures' sold to the gullible and/or desperate certainly makes the list.
Aside but when does Oprah get held accountable for her role in the existence of a lot of shaky people like OZ and Dr Phil? Or as long as she keeps tossing cheap cars at her audience and we can point to the color purple she gets a free pass? Is Oprah just a female Jesse Jackson? I.e. a 80s/90s artifice of boomer liberal white guilt?
I think just a bad, bad mistake...has she spoken about Oz recently?
Bandito wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:24 pm
No surprise there is no chatter on this thread about the Debate Debacles by Democrats Wednesday night. Why so quiet? Is it because Democrats are doomed on 11/8?
Fetterman was utterly destroyed by Dr. Oz. Like completely obliterated. It was so bad, Fetterman makes Biden look like a Rhodes Scholar! An exit poll by a local news station showed Oz won the debate 83% to 17%. This has to be the biggest failure of a debate that I can remember, and I remember how bad Biden was vs Trump. There is no way anyone with a functional brain can vote for this clown. No surprise he is a Democrat. He should step down from the race. He is obviously is not physically able to perform the duties of a sitting US Senator. He also wants to put convicted murderers back on the streets. Has he not seen what Philly looks like lately? Polls and betting markets are showing Oz pulling ahead of this giant oooof and I foresee a win for Oz.
Hochul vs Zeldin: By all accounts, Zeldin won the debate and hopefully the governors race. Hochul is so out of touch with the voters in NY. They are worried about the skyrocketing crime and horrid state of a Democrat led economy. NY should never be this close given the braindead liberal zombies in NYC and the bustling (more like dying) upstate cities. Yet she kept harping about abortion. Killing babies is sadly and satanically legal in the state and is not a major issue in the state. She will lose. Zeldin is the right choice for NY.
Kari Lake is up big on Katie Hobbs in AZ. Why is she so afraid to debate? Hobbs is a laughingstock.
Republicans will easily take the House, likely take the Senate and win many governors races, just a few weeks ago was thought to be impossible.
That of course unless the fix is in like it was in 2020. Good riddance to such a horrid political party.
Fettermans performance was beyond terrible. I read something awhile ago that the D game plan was if Fetterman won he would step down and allow the governor to name a new senator. I think that would be a prudent move. By all accounts Fetterman lost any chance of winning last night.
I don't think that's remotely the plan, but if a Dem inclined voter in this cycle was worried about his capacities, the very likely Dem in the Gov's office would indeed be in place to appoint someone else if Fetterman doesn't continue to improve and feel good about his representation.
If I was a surrogate, I might even make that point in the press.
Right now, they're going to pound really hard on Oz's abortion gaffe, confirming the worst suspicions. That'll outweigh Fetterman's capacity to deal with things on his feet...he'll be a relaible vote for choice and all the other issues of keeping government out of people''s bedrooms. Of course, some people may prefer a slime ball. Indeed, a lot of people...
So in your opinion Oz is in the "slime ball" category?? In your opinion does Fetterman chasing down the black jogger and holding him with a loaded shotgun pointed at him sound like a rational decision that you would make? I know exactly what I would do in that situation.. I would call 911 and let the police sort it out. The only explanation from Fetterman reads like a novel from SE Hinton... That was then, this is now...
Yes, Oz is a slime ball, a disgusting grifter...do better homework.
Copy that, so what is your opinion of Fetterman?? Does the chasing down the black jogger and pointing a shotgun at him bother you at all?? I'll repeat your own advice to me.. do better homework... In less than 2 weeks the people of Pennsylvania will make their decision. Will you respect that decision???
"respect" as in not claim that the election was stolen through Venezuelan or Italian software or ..., yeah, I'll respect the election integrity unless a court says otherwise based on actual evidence.
But no, I won't "respect" Oz.
Of course what people have done in their life concerns me.
How they handle those mistakes is what matters most, though, when looking forward.
I'm not an avid fan of Fetterman, not my state, but I do know that Oz is pure slime ball and I don't want to see him in the Senate. I also don't want the Senate to flip to MAGA control. House being overrun by MAGA is bad enough, but if Senate as well, it'll be a total sh-tshow. Not good for the country.
It is a tough call for the residents of Pennsylvania. I honestly don't know that much about Oz outside of his TV persona. I'm not certain about how you put a person in the sleazeball category. My criteria would have started with HRC at the top of my list of sleazeballs her former friend, some guy named trump is next on my list of sleazeballs.
No, it's not a close call:
I didn't put him at the top of the list, but profiting off of phony baloney medical 'cures' sold to the gullible and/or desperate certainly makes the list.
Aside but when does Oprah get held accountable for her role in the existence of a lot of shaky people like OZ and Dr Phil? Or as long as she keeps tossing cheap cars at her audience and we can point to the color purple she gets a free pass? Is Oprah just a female Jesse Jackson? I.e. a 80s/90s artifice of boomer liberal white guilt?
I have wondered what Oprah thinks of Dr. Oz. I never thought of her as a Jesse Jackson type. He is pure grifter. Oprah actually worked a long time to build a career. She succeeded against unbelievable odds. I don’t believe I ever saw an episode of her TV show.
I don’t think they’re comparable but just have to wonder if she sold out at some point and is riding a rep that is in the past. We know it happens all the time. Mainly noting her “family” tree looks a lot like how the spawns of Milken scattered and filtered into society after Drexel failed.
Really hard to find fault in Schumer saying that, it is hard to believe.
It's a really sad state of affairs when enough people see this kind of
person as the one they want as their Senator. I'd be okay with dog
catcher but beyond that, not so much. Walker gives a whole new
meaning to peach of state. Krist almighty.
People want her to go away. Nobody is embracing her. Even her husband…
How does this compare to what was attempted all the way up to January the 6th?
"the right-wing controlled Supreme Court may be poised to rule on giving state legislatures the power to overturn presidential elections."
She proposed, "If that happens, the 2024 presidential election could be decided not by the popular vote or even by the anachronistic Electoral College, but by state legislatures, many of them Republican-controlled."
This is not the same thing as saying if “Democrats” lose its because of fraud or a stolen election. I believe Trump was on record prior to the last two elections saying the only way he loses is if there is voter fraud. This bold statement has been copied in state and local elections around the country as well as in a few other Nations.
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:12 amHow does this compare to what was attempted all the way up to January the 6th?
"the right-wing controlled Supreme Court may be poised to rule on giving state legislatures the power to overturn presidential elections."
She proposed, "If that happens, the 2024 presidential election could be decided not by the popular vote or even by the anachronistic Electoral College, but by state legislatures, many of them Republican-controlled."
This is not the same thing as saying if “Democrats” lose its because of fraud or a stolen election. I believe Trump was on record prior to the last two elections saying the only way he loses is if there is voter fraud. This bold statement has been copied in state and local elections around the country as well as in a few other Nations.
How does it compare? IT DOESN'T. It is such a preposterous premise...and is an attitude that has come COMPLETELY from this orange moron as a way to separate himself from other more sane reublicans. Look at how he trampled the GOP field in 2016. Buncha numbnut establishment politicians couldn't stave off the assault on civility and political norms by this "businessman" that could save our country. What a bunch of total BS.
No, it doesn't compare. yet this is the kind of nuance that the MAGAt trumpublicans deny and ridicule...it's really nothing more than these people attempting to foist their lies off on their opponents by asserting "SEE, they do it too!"
They DON'T do it. Election deniers in the MAGAt party have this totally on themselves and it is insidiously evil...the fact that this brand of election denial is so outrageous...so OBVIOUSLY A LIE...that it enables them to label attempts to call out the lies "unhinged" and "hyperbolic" and "radical".
#Resistance
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Re: 2022 Midterms
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:34 am
by jhu72
Fetterman re Oz: "In January I will be better and he will still be a fraud, a con man"
Not equivalent, and not even close on any number of levels and at any order of magnitude. Have you thought about why it is important to you, though, to try to equate Clinton's occasional comments with a pre-election drumbeat, a post-election attempted coup, and the ensuing years of attempting to destabilize the country, create distrust in elections, and recruit election deniers as candidates?
Bandito wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:24 pm
No surprise there is no chatter on this thread about the Debate Debacles by Democrats Wednesday night. Why so quiet? Is it because Democrats are doomed on 11/8?
Fetterman was utterly destroyed by Dr. Oz. Like completely obliterated. It was so bad, Fetterman makes Biden look like a Rhodes Scholar! An exit poll by a local news station showed Oz won the debate 83% to 17%. This has to be the biggest failure of a debate that I can remember, and I remember how bad Biden was vs Trump. There is no way anyone with a functional brain can vote for this clown. No surprise he is a Democrat. He should step down from the race. He is obviously is not physically able to perform the duties of a sitting US Senator. He also wants to put convicted murderers back on the streets. Has he not seen what Philly looks like lately? Polls and betting markets are showing Oz pulling ahead of this giant oooof and I foresee a win for Oz.
Hochul vs Zeldin: By all accounts, Zeldin won the debate and hopefully the governors race. Hochul is so out of touch with the voters in NY. They are worried about the skyrocketing crime and horrid state of a Democrat led economy. NY should never be this close given the braindead liberal zombies in NYC and the bustling (more like dying) upstate cities. Yet she kept harping about abortion. Killing babies is sadly and satanically legal in the state and is not a major issue in the state. She will lose. Zeldin is the right choice for NY.
Kari Lake is up big on Katie Hobbs in AZ. Why is she so afraid to debate? Hobbs is a laughingstock.
Republicans will easily take the House, likely take the Senate and win many governors races, just a few weeks ago was thought to be impossible.
That of course unless the fix is in like it was in 2020. Good riddance to such a horrid political party.
Fettermans performance was beyond terrible. I read something awhile ago that the D game plan was if Fetterman won he would step down and allow the governor to name a new senator. I think that would be a prudent move. By all accounts Fetterman lost any chance of winning last night.
I don't think that's remotely the plan, but if a Dem inclined voter in this cycle was worried about his capacities, the very likely Dem in the Gov's office would indeed be in place to appoint someone else if Fetterman doesn't continue to improve and feel good about his representation.
If I was a surrogate, I might even make that point in the press.
Right now, they're going to pound really hard on Oz's abortion gaffe, confirming the worst suspicions. That'll outweigh Fetterman's capacity to deal with things on his feet...he'll be a relaible vote for choice and all the other issues of keeping government out of people''s bedrooms. Of course, some people may prefer a slime ball. Indeed, a lot of people...
So in your opinion Oz is in the "slime ball" category?? In your opinion does Fetterman chasing down the black jogger and holding him with a loaded shotgun pointed at him sound like a rational decision that you would make? I know exactly what I would do in that situation.. I would call 911 and let the police sort it out. The only explanation from Fetterman reads like a novel from SE Hinton... That was then, this is now...
Yes, Oz is a slime ball, a disgusting grifter...do better homework.
Copy that, so what is your opinion of Fetterman?? Does the chasing down the black jogger and pointing a shotgun at him bother you at all?? I'll repeat your own advice to me.. do better homework... In less than 2 weeks the people of Pennsylvania will make their decision. Will you respect that decision???
"respect" as in not claim that the election was stolen through Venezuelan or Italian software or ..., yeah, I'll respect the election integrity unless a court says otherwise based on actual evidence.
But no, I won't "respect" Oz.
Of course what people have done in their life concerns me.
How they handle those mistakes is what matters most, though, when looking forward.
I'm not an avid fan of Fetterman, not my state, but I do know that Oz is pure slime ball and I don't want to see him in the Senate. I also don't want the Senate to flip to MAGA control. House being overrun by MAGA is bad enough, but if Senate as well, it'll be a total sh-tshow. Not good for the country.
It is a tough call for the residents of Pennsylvania. I honestly don't know that much about Oz outside of his TV persona. I'm not certain about how you put a person in the sleazeball category. My criteria would have started with HRC at the top of my list of sleazeballs her former friend, some guy named trump is next on my list of sleazeballs.
No, it's not a close call:
I didn't put him at the top of the list, but profiting off of phony baloney medical 'cures' sold to the gullible and/or desperate certainly makes the list.
Aside but when does Oprah get held accountable for her role in the existence of a lot of shaky people like OZ and Dr Phil? Or as long as she keeps tossing cheap cars at her audience and we can point to the color purple she gets a free pass? Is Oprah just a female Jesse Jackson? I.e. a 80s/90s artifice of boomer liberal white guilt?
I have wondered what Oprah thinks of Dr. Oz. I never thought of her as a Jesse Jackson type. He is pure grifter. Oprah actually worked a long time to build a career. She succeeded against unbelievable odds. I don’t believe I ever saw an episode of her TV show.
... not an Oprah fan, she is just background noise to me, not good, not bad. Seems nice enough and personable enough for local TV news (where she got her start). Nothing I have seen in her can explain her rise other than just dumb luck. Saw her on the local news, never her TV show.
Not equivalent, and not even close on any number of levels and at any order of magnitude. Have you thought about why it is important to you, though, to try to equate Clinton's occasional comments with a pre-election drumbeat, a post-election attempted coup, and the ensuing years of attempting to destabilize the country, create distrust in elections, and recruit election deniers as candidates?
Bandito wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:24 pm
No surprise there is no chatter on this thread about the Debate Debacles by Democrats Wednesday night. Why so quiet? Is it because Democrats are doomed on 11/8?
Fetterman was utterly destroyed by Dr. Oz. Like completely obliterated. It was so bad, Fetterman makes Biden look like a Rhodes Scholar! An exit poll by a local news station showed Oz won the debate 83% to 17%. This has to be the biggest failure of a debate that I can remember, and I remember how bad Biden was vs Trump. There is no way anyone with a functional brain can vote for this clown. No surprise he is a Democrat. He should step down from the race. He is obviously is not physically able to perform the duties of a sitting US Senator. He also wants to put convicted murderers back on the streets. Has he not seen what Philly looks like lately? Polls and betting markets are showing Oz pulling ahead of this giant oooof and I foresee a win for Oz.
Hochul vs Zeldin: By all accounts, Zeldin won the debate and hopefully the governors race. Hochul is so out of touch with the voters in NY. They are worried about the skyrocketing crime and horrid state of a Democrat led economy. NY should never be this close given the braindead liberal zombies in NYC and the bustling (more like dying) upstate cities. Yet she kept harping about abortion. Killing babies is sadly and satanically legal in the state and is not a major issue in the state. She will lose. Zeldin is the right choice for NY.
Kari Lake is up big on Katie Hobbs in AZ. Why is she so afraid to debate? Hobbs is a laughingstock.
Republicans will easily take the House, likely take the Senate and win many governors races, just a few weeks ago was thought to be impossible.
That of course unless the fix is in like it was in 2020. Good riddance to such a horrid political party.
Fettermans performance was beyond terrible. I read something awhile ago that the D game plan was if Fetterman won he would step down and allow the governor to name a new senator. I think that would be a prudent move. By all accounts Fetterman lost any chance of winning last night.
I don't think that's remotely the plan, but if a Dem inclined voter in this cycle was worried about his capacities, the very likely Dem in the Gov's office would indeed be in place to appoint someone else if Fetterman doesn't continue to improve and feel good about his representation.
If I was a surrogate, I might even make that point in the press.
Right now, they're going to pound really hard on Oz's abortion gaffe, confirming the worst suspicions. That'll outweigh Fetterman's capacity to deal with things on his feet...he'll be a relaible vote for choice and all the other issues of keeping government out of people''s bedrooms. Of course, some people may prefer a slime ball. Indeed, a lot of people...
So in your opinion Oz is in the "slime ball" category?? In your opinion does Fetterman chasing down the black jogger and holding him with a loaded shotgun pointed at him sound like a rational decision that you would make? I know exactly what I would do in that situation.. I would call 911 and let the police sort it out. The only explanation from Fetterman reads like a novel from SE Hinton... That was then, this is now...
Yes, Oz is a slime ball, a disgusting grifter...do better homework.
Copy that, so what is your opinion of Fetterman?? Does the chasing down the black jogger and pointing a shotgun at him bother you at all?? I'll repeat your own advice to me.. do better homework... In less than 2 weeks the people of Pennsylvania will make their decision. Will you respect that decision???
"respect" as in not claim that the election was stolen through Venezuelan or Italian software or ..., yeah, I'll respect the election integrity unless a court says otherwise based on actual evidence.
But no, I won't "respect" Oz.
Of course what people have done in their life concerns me.
How they handle those mistakes is what matters most, though, when looking forward.
I'm not an avid fan of Fetterman, not my state, but I do know that Oz is pure slime ball and I don't want to see him in the Senate. I also don't want the Senate to flip to MAGA control. House being overrun by MAGA is bad enough, but if Senate as well, it'll be a total sh-tshow. Not good for the country.
It is a tough call for the residents of Pennsylvania. I honestly don't know that much about Oz outside of his TV persona. I'm not certain about how you put a person in the sleazeball category. My criteria would have started with HRC at the top of my list of sleazeballs her former friend, some guy named trump is next on my list of sleazeballs.
No, it's not a close call:
I didn't put him at the top of the list, but profiting off of phony baloney medical 'cures' sold to the gullible and/or desperate certainly makes the list.
Aside but when does Oprah get held accountable for her role in the existence of a lot of shaky people like OZ and Dr Phil? Or as long as she keeps tossing cheap cars at her audience and we can point to the color purple she gets a free pass? Is Oprah just a female Jesse Jackson? I.e. a 80s/90s artifice of boomer liberal white guilt?
I have wondered what Oprah thinks of Dr. Oz. I never thought of her as a Jesse Jackson type. He is pure grifter. Oprah actually worked a long time to build a career. She succeeded against unbelievable odds. I don’t believe I ever saw an episode of her TV show.
... not an Oprah fan, she is just background noise to me, not good, not bad. Seems nice enough and personable enough for local TV news (where she got her start). Nothing I have seen in her can explain her rise other than just dumb luck. Saw her on the local news, never her TV show.
Yep. I remember hearing about her before she became famous. Just persistent and hard working it seemed.
Not equivalent, and not even close on any number of levels and at any order of magnitude. Have you thought about why it is important to you, though, to try to equate Clinton's occasional comments with a pre-election drumbeat, a post-election attempted coup, and the ensuing years of attempting to destabilize the country, create distrust in elections, and recruit election deniers as candidates?
Oh...I've thought about it, plenty, the point, is both sides blame one another for election shenanigan's. But you seem far too dug in, like an alabama tick, to even realize the team you adore and love, can do no wrong.
Not equivalent, and not even close on any number of levels and at any order of magnitude. Have you thought about why it is important to you, though, to try to equate Clinton's occasional comments with a pre-election drumbeat, a post-election attempted coup, and the ensuing years of attempting to destabilize the country, create distrust in elections, and recruit election deniers as candidates?
Oh...I've thought about it, plenty, the point, is both sides blame one another for election shenanigan's. But you seem far too dug in, like an alabama tick, to even realize the team you adore and love, can do no wrong.
My team does plenty I don't love or appreciate. But that doesn't prevent me from understanding that my team remains committed to basic democratic norms, like respect for elections. And if it was simply Clinton as sour-puss loser and Trump as sour-puss loser, that might be fine. But it's not; Trump has led an entire political party, literally en masse, to take a position that is contrary and corrosive to democracy, just because he lost (while down ballot the rest of his party did very well). Making distinctions is what humans are expected to do. Horses grazing in a field don't. And to you I say, I guess, giddyup.
Not equivalent, and not even close on any number of levels and at any order of magnitude. Have you thought about why it is important to you, though, to try to equate Clinton's occasional comments with a pre-election drumbeat, a post-election attempted coup, and the ensuing years of attempting to destabilize the country, create distrust in elections, and recruit election deniers as candidates?
Oh...I've thought about it, plenty, the point, is both sides blame one another for election shenanigan's. But you seem far too dug in, like an alabama tick, to even realize the team you adore and love, can do no wrong.
My team does plenty I don't love or appreciate. But that doesn't prevent me from understanding that my team remains committed to basic democratic norms, like respect for elections. And if it was simply Clinton as sour-puss loser and Trump as sour-puss loser, that might be fine. But it's not; Trump has led an entire political party, literally en masse, to take a position that is contrary and corrosive to democracy, just because he lost (while down ballot the rest of his party did very well). Making distinctions is what humans are expected to do. Horses grazing in a field don't. And to you I say, I guess, giddyup.
You wanna ride shotgun or you happy on your pony, eight minutes your party doing exactly what the r's did in the last election. Thanks for the precedent.
Re: 2022 Midterms
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 12:35 pm
by Farfromgeneva
DMac wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:13 am
Really hard to find fault in Schumer saying that, it is hard to believe.
It's a really sad state of affairs when enough people see this kind of
person as the one they want as their Senator. I'd be okay with dog
catcher but beyond that, not so much. Walker gives a whole new
meaning to peach of state. Krist almighty.
