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Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:07 pm
by Peter Brown
ggait wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:57 pm
Acquittals are generally the quickest decisions juries make. Not happening here.
Guilty verdicts actually take much longer. Especially when you have (as here) multiple charges that have to be sifted through.
A hung jury only comes after the (almost) guilty verdict would have been reached.
So there's not probably not going to be any tea leaves for reading for many more days of deliberations.
Colorado is so effed. An actual scumbag murderer videotaped for all the world to see walks free without so much as an ankle monitor.
https://denvergazette.com/news/courts/m ... f130c.html
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:13 pm
by MDlaxfan76
hmmm, so it's "murder" because the protester was anti-BLM ?
Here's a perspective:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17c2q9rpyhc
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:54 pm
by Peter Brown
9News Denver is Pro-Antifa; Its most prominent anchor Kyle Clark has openly mocked anyone who is concerned about violence from Antifa & BLM. He was also friends with the shooter.
The 9NEWS security shooter, Matthew Robert Dolloff, had quite the Facebook post history. From F@ck the Police (FTP), to sharing Occupy Denver/ Democrats, to his F@ck Trump posts.
(Colorado media were totally silent when the director of the largest liberal organization in CO called Jeff Hunt (conservative Republican Coloradan) a “nazi” and told antifa to go "win again" against him on the anniversary of D-Day).
In any event, is an unlicensed security guard allowed to kill a person who is defending themselves with mace?
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:12 pm
by PizzaSnake
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:07 pm
ggait wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:57 pm
Acquittals are generally the quickest decisions juries make. Not happening here.
Guilty verdicts actually take much longer. Especially when you have (as here) multiple charges that have to be sifted through.
A hung jury only comes after the (almost) guilty verdict would have been reached.
So there's not probably not going to be any tea leaves for reading for many more days of deliberations.
Colorado is so effed. An actual scumbag murderer videotaped for all the world to see walks free without so much as an ankle monitor. e
https://denvergazette.com/news/courts/matthewe, on -dolloff-man-who-allegedly-fatally-shot-protestor-is-now-free-to-roam-without-a/article_05632abe-8e56-11eb-8c44-c30aed0f130c.html
I saw the video and the still image “grabs” and read the coverage.
Doesn't appear cut-and-dried either way. On one hand the shooter’s licensing and therefore training is questionable, and on the other hand the “victim” seems like he was going to come to a bad end acting the way he was.
Cases like these is why we have trials.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:12 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:19 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:24 am
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:13 am
There is a deterrent for you...
Yep. Maybe Walmart shouldn’t sell those or keep them behind a locked case. Maybe if he were a dog, you would feel differently. I am sure I can find a video.
My nephew the former RPD cop talked about one murder he responded to. One 16 year old shot another 16 year old friend in the head because he disrespected him. In the big scheme of things human life means diddly squat to people in every town, city and state in this country. Unless of course a cop does the shooting. Some Black Lives Matter... other black lives don't mean chit even in their own communities... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH. After Latasha Shaw was f***ing beaten to death in the middle of the street 2 blocks from here I lived my whole life. Don't f***ing tell me that black lives matter. Her life didn't mean chit to the approximately 50 black folks that witnessed her murder and never said chit about it to the police. What mattered was... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH. If Black Lives Mattered 50 f****ing people should have told the police who killed this woman. No SNITCH...NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH. I understand some of the FLP white guys here have told me not to worry about this. That will be addressed somewhere down the road... yeah, sure it f***ing will. Sure it will. I stood at that corner where Latasha Shaw was murdered trying to save her own daughters life and cried like a baby it hurt me so much. Nobody f***ing cared about her where she lived. She died like a dog beaten and stabbed and left in the middle of the road. She was trying to protect her daughter from getting beaten up... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... Some Black Lives Matter, but not if your name is Latasha Shaw, then nobody f****ing cares about YOUR LIFE.
https://www.democratandchronicle.com/st ... 470404002/
You ever have dog? Some say it’s good eating.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:18 pm
by Peter Brown
Chauvin will now certainly get his conviction ultimately thrown out. Now Biden has weighed in. Publicly.
https://nypost.com/2021/04/20/biden-say ... k-chauvin/
How dumb are these bozos weighing in as a jury is deliberating? It was dumb when Trump said stuff about judges, it’s equally dumb that Biden would discuss an ongoing case and tilt the scales.
Unreal.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:33 pm
by ggait
Colorado is so effed.
To quote Ruth Langmore, Petey doesn't know shirt about fork.
But thank god scum sucking racist troll boys like Petey don't want to move here. Because everyone else (except for cretins like him) is moving here. Because CO is simply awesome:
#1 metro area to live in in the USA -- Boulder, CO.
#2 Denver, CO
#4 Colo Springs, CO
#5 Fort Collins, CO
So Petey, to quote Ruth again:
Let me say this as respectfully as I possibly can. Shut your fork nugget mouth and leave us all alone.
P.S. How's that Democrat wife of yours doin?
https://realestate.usnews.com/places/ra ... es-to-live
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:38 pm
by cradleandshoot
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:12 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:19 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:24 am
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:13 am
There is a deterrent for you...
Yep. Maybe Walmart shouldn’t sell those or keep them behind a locked case. Maybe if he were a dog, you would feel differently. I am sure I can find a video.
My nephew the former RPD cop talked about one murder he responded to. One 16 year old shot another 16 year old friend in the head because he disrespected him. In the big scheme of things human life means diddly squat to people in every town, city and state in this country. Unless of course a cop does the shooting. Some Black Lives Matter... other black lives don't mean chit even in their own communities... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH. After Latasha Shaw was f***ing beaten to death in the middle of the street 2 blocks from here I lived my whole life. Don't f***ing tell me that black lives matter. Her life didn't mean chit to the approximately 50 black folks that witnessed her murder and never said chit about it to the police. What mattered was... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH. If Black Lives Mattered 50 f****ing people should have told the police who killed this woman. No SNITCH...NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH. I understand some of the FLP white guys here have told me not to worry about this. That will be addressed somewhere down the road... yeah, sure it f***ing will. Sure it will. I stood at that corner where Latasha Shaw was murdered trying to save her own daughters life and cried like a baby it hurt me so much. Nobody f***ing cared about her where she lived. She died like a dog beaten and stabbed and left in the middle of the road. She was trying to protect her daughter from getting beaten up... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... Some Black Lives Matter, but not if your name is Latasha Shaw, then nobody f****ing cares about YOUR LIFE.
https://www.democratandchronicle.com/st ... 470404002/
You ever have dog? Some say it’s good eating.
I had monkey and snake when my unit was in Panama. Monkey meat is pretty damn good. It tastes a lot like roast beef.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:41 pm
by cradleandshoot
Blurb on my phone says the verdict is in. Will they put Chauvin in general population?
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:42 pm
by Kismet
Jury in Minneapolis has reached a verdict - to be read aloud between 4:30-5:00PM EDT today in the courtoom
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:44 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:38 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:12 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:19 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:24 am
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:13 am
There is a deterrent for you...
Yep. Maybe Walmart shouldn’t sell those or keep them behind a locked case. Maybe if he were a dog, you would feel differently. I am sure I can find a video.
My nephew the former RPD cop talked about one murder he responded to. One 16 year old shot another 16 year old friend in the head because he disrespected him. In the big scheme of things human life means diddly squat to people in every town, city and state in this country. Unless of course a cop does the shooting. Some Black Lives Matter... other black lives don't mean chit even in their own communities... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH. After Latasha Shaw was f***ing beaten to death in the middle of the street 2 blocks from here I lived my whole life. Don't f***ing tell me that black lives matter. Her life didn't mean chit to the approximately 50 black folks that witnessed her murder and never said chit about it to the police. What mattered was... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH. If Black Lives Mattered 50 f****ing people should have told the police who killed this woman. No SNITCH...NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH. I understand some of the FLP white guys here have told me not to worry about this. That will be addressed somewhere down the road... yeah, sure it f***ing will. Sure it will. I stood at that corner where Latasha Shaw was murdered trying to save her own daughters life and cried like a baby it hurt me so much. Nobody f***ing cared about her where she lived. She died like a dog beaten and stabbed and left in the middle of the road. She was trying to protect her daughter from getting beaten up... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... Some Black Lives Matter, but not if your name is Latasha Shaw, then nobody f****ing cares about YOUR LIFE.
https://www.democratandchronicle.com/st ... 470404002/
You ever have dog? Some say it’s good eating.
I had monkey and snake when my unit was in Panama. Monkey meat is pretty damn good. It tastes a lot like roast beef.
You sure it wasn’t dog?
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:47 pm
by cradleandshoot
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:44 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:38 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:12 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:19 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:24 am
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:13 am
There is a deterrent for you...
Yep. Maybe Walmart shouldn’t sell those or keep them behind a locked case. Maybe if he were a dog, you would feel differently. I am sure I can find a video.
My nephew the former RPD cop talked about one murder he responded to. One 16 year old shot another 16 year old friend in the head because he disrespected him. In the big scheme of things human life means diddly squat to people in every town, city and state in this country. Unless of course a cop does the shooting. Some Black Lives Matter... other black lives don't mean chit even in their own communities... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH. After Latasha Shaw was f***ing beaten to death in the middle of the street 2 blocks from here I lived my whole life. Don't f***ing tell me that black lives matter. Her life didn't mean chit to the approximately 50 black folks that witnessed her murder and never said chit about it to the police. What mattered was... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH. If Black Lives Mattered 50 f****ing people should have told the police who killed this woman. No SNITCH...NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH. I understand some of the FLP white guys here have told me not to worry about this. That will be addressed somewhere down the road... yeah, sure it f***ing will. Sure it will. I stood at that corner where Latasha Shaw was murdered trying to save her own daughters life and cried like a baby it hurt me so much. Nobody f***ing cared about her where she lived. She died like a dog beaten and stabbed and left in the middle of the road. She was trying to protect her daughter from getting beaten up... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... NO SNITCH... Some Black Lives Matter, but not if your name is Latasha Shaw, then nobody f****ing cares about YOUR LIFE.
https://www.democratandchronicle.com/st ... 470404002/
You ever have dog? Some say it’s good eating.
I had monkey and snake when my unit was in Panama. Monkey meat is pretty damn good. It tastes a lot like roast beef.
You sure it wasn’t dog?
Nope, they served it on a platter head on like a pig. They put grapes in the mouth instead of an apple. The tail is the best part. Mighty tender
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:47 pm
by old salt
Here is an example of passing counterfeit currency termed as forged documents :
https://patch.com/virginia/fairfaxcity/ ... est-md-man
...uttering and obtaining money by false pretenses. Uttering is knowingly passing off false or forged documents or writings as if they are real.
(1) In this trial, the whole question of the legitimacy of Floyd's arrest is a red herring, since Chauvin did not initiate the arrest.
(2) the above interpretation may be used in some jurisdictions by state & local police to arrest people passing counterfeit currency before it has been determined if they were aware it was counterfeit. Regardless, when Floyd arrived, the arresting officer told Floyd he was arresting him for forgery.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:48 pm
by Matnum PI
The jurors, who deliberated for four hours on Monday then returned to the task on Tuesday, have made a decision on whether to convict Mr. Chauvin of murder. It will be read between 3:30 p.m. and 4 p.m. Central.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:51 pm
by old salt
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:47 pm
Here is an example of passing counterfeit currency termed as forged documents :
https://patch.com/virginia/fairfaxcity/ ... est-md-man
...uttering and obtaining money by false pretenses. Uttering is knowingly passing off false or forged documents or writings as if they are real.
(1) In this trial, the whole question of the legitimacy of Floyd's arrest is a red herring, since Chauvin did not initiate the arrest.
(2) the above interpretation may be used in some jurisdictions by state & local police to arrest people passing counterfeit currency before it has been determined if they were aware it was counterfeit. Regardless, when Floyd arrived, the arresting officer told Floyd he was arresting him for forgery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_George_Floyd
At 8:17, Chauvin and Thao arrived in a third police car joining Kueng and Lane with Chauvin assuming command. He asked if Floyd was going to jail, and Kueng replied that he was arrested for forgery.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:51 pm
by ggait
Wow. 10 hours of deliberations.
That means no hung jury.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:52 pm
by PizzaSnake
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:02 pm
by Peter Brown
ggait wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:51 pm
Wow. 10 hours of deliberations.
That means no hung jury.
Chill dude. It’s a guilty verdict.
Then it gets thrown out on appeal a year from now. You can riot and loot then.
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:13 pm
by ggait
Then it gets thrown out on appeal a year from now. You can riot and loot then.
Petey doesn't know shirt about fork.
You want to tell us again to buy Gilead stock at $84? Closed at $66 today (one year later).
Or how Trump was gonna totally crush Joe?
Or how Joe was never gonna make it to the convention/election day/inauguration day? Oh...the schadenfreude will be so sweet..
So please. Do us a favor.
Shut your fork nugget mouth and leave us all alone.
And I mean that as respectfully as possible.
Say hi to the Democrat/ugly wife for me!!
Re: Race in America - Riots Explode in Minneapolis
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:14 pm
by old salt
I'm betting guilty on 3rd degree murder -- depraved indifference.