LaxPower Back-Up Stick

jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 3:43 pm

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 3:33 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 3:18 pm Whoopsie

As of May 4th

66% of all U.S. counties have no more than one coronavirus death,
80% have five or fewer,
86% have 10 or fewer,
and 89% have fewer than 15.

Kind of matches the straw poll for this thread, above.

Like any of this means anything. What is the population density of those counties? You are not going to catch COVID if you don't interact with other humans. So you are telling us that 66% of all US counties are naturally self distancing. Like this should surprise anyone that knows even a little geography.

njbill wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 7:38 pm Regardless, it was simply a photo op for Pence, a media stunt. The real purpose was exactly what?

njbill wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 8:42 pm Glad you agree it was a media stunt.

Poorly planned and orchestrated in my view. He picks a place close to his office, a place he apparently was not otherwise visiting? No masks? No social distancing? And this with people in his office infected? Not a good look. But then, yeah, I’m not a Pence fan.

Joe hasn’t checked in with me today, but as far as I know, he is still in his basement. For my money, the fewer times he talks, especially on camera, the better. Let’s just get over the Nov. 3 finish line, baby.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 3:13 pm

ggait wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 1:58 pm

not old people. in nursing homes and long term care facilities only. it would seem there's a fairly straightforward way to reduce deaths in a major way, and that's to start treating nursing homes like they are the fort knox of covid.

WG -- do you know anyone in an elder care facility? The ones I know have been in crazy DefCon 1 lockdown for quite some time and that isn't going away any time soon.

So I'm not sure what more you could really be doing on this front, honestly. Lock all the workers inside the facility 24/7? Move people out of these facilities? But they still need to be somewhere and still need workers to provide them high touch care?

What is your straightforward solution?

if what you're saying (and by what you didn't say) is true, i assume there have been no outbreaks there? maybe it means they're doing all that they can.
it hasn't gotten into every facility. some might be lucky, but the ones that have had better "luck" by now probably have had by and large better protocols. that would leave unlucky facilities and probably some large percentage that have holes in their procedures.
what are those holes and those procedures? they won't be asking me, but it probably would be instructive to start with a survey and where things may have been failing.

no visitors.
tests for anyone with direct contact with patients every 2 weeks. same with anyone that has had close contact with anyone confirmed at any level.
hopefully procedures are already in place most places, but even a law (or industry standard) mandating workers taking a body temp test before entering workplace.
many other things are certainly being done but might not be universal (i.e one nursing home isolates patients and any workers who have contact with them. others might have those workes using ppe but working with others in the facility).
don't have workers do 1 job throughout the whole facility, but rather have a tight rotation and multi task with other workers those jobs that can be doubled up.
there's plenty of other ideas that me or anyone could throw at it, including money, housing... but it doesn't make sense to hear any details from me, i have no idea how it's getting in. most or all ideas i have probably s*ck. i just know it doesn't jump fences or walk through doors on its own.... the straightforward solution lies in how it got into the facilities in the first place. and what could've been done to avoid it. and once it's in, to corral it.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:21 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:11 pmahhh, not the first and probably won't be the last time you correct me wgdsr and are right to do so!

Yup, they did unload a bunch of full boxes. You are right!

But not so sure I'm not correct that the rest of the boxes in the van were empty. When Pence begins to go for the next ones, the guy clearly tells him that "they're empty, sir"...Pence then makes a joke about them being "easier", but stops unloading.

Why did they have a bunch more boxes...if they were empty?
Or am I mis-hearing what the guy tells Pence?

who the hell knows? do you think pence, knowing the future camera angle and that they would only have 3/4 of a van's worth of boxes (and not knowing how microphones work), ordered that empty boxes take up the last 1/4 of the van? so that... well i can't even think of a reason why he'd care about the last 1/4 of a van's space.

maybe they were put in there by the guy driving so everything didn't slide around.
maybe he's moving, delivered supplies earlier and took the boxes and he's going to drop them off at his house after work to help with his packing.

it was a non-story was my point. click bait that seems to be all the rage everywhere nowadays. don't we have enough material to work with without being a little discerning?!?!?!

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:35 pm Sweden ain’t looking too good. First 30 days about 700 deaths....last 30 days 2300 deaths....seems to be getting worse by the day.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 11:32 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:35 pm Sweden ain’t looking too good. First 30 days about 700 deaths....last 30 days 2300 deaths....seems to be getting worse by the day.

guess we'll see.
deaths are down from over 100 per day to 70, or 30+%.
icu is way down.
deaths well under 200 people under 60 yrs old, and about 70 under 50.
if they can get their nursing homes squared away (now on lockdown), it's at least possible that immunity has been slowing things the last 2 weeks and it could be deep. or it could be fool's gold. their declines don't make sense to me unless there has been some spread immunity (part of that is i'm an amateur).

in any event, the us and many other countries are just coming out of pseudo-lockdowns. some, like many parts of the u.s., aren't even seeing signif declines leading into it.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 11:41 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 11:32 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:35 pm Sweden ain’t looking too good. First 30 days about 700 deaths....last 30 days 2300 deaths....seems to be getting worse by the day.

guess we'll see.
deaths are down from over 100 per day to 70, or 30+%.
icu is way down.
deaths well under 200 people under 60 yrs old, and about 70 under 50.
if they can get their nursing homes squared away (now on lockdown), it's at least possible that immunity has been slowing things the last 2 weeks and it could be deep. or it could be fool's gold. their declines don't make sense to me unless there has been some spread immunity (part of that is i'm an amateur).

in any event, the us and many other countries are just coming out of pseudo-lockdowns. some, like many parts of the u.s., aren't even seeing signif declines leading into it.

135 today, 85+ each day since the 4th

time will tell.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:35 pm Sweden ain’t looking too good. First 30 days about 700 deaths....last 30 days 2300 deaths....seems to be getting worse by the day.

njbill wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 12:10 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:35 pm Sweden ain’t looking too good. First 30 days about 700 deaths....last 30 days 2300 deaths....seems to be getting worse by the day.

Not good news, but not surprising. Numbers are still trending the wrong way. They bet on the wrong horse.

njbill wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 12:30 am Actually not. There was a dip, but the numbers have gone back up. Projections are still going up as well.

njbill wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 12:47 am Swedish deaths per day, total deaths, and hospitalizations are all trending up.

No one has suggested that states wait until things zero out, but some states are opening up more quickly (and recklessly in my view) than others. Some politicians and some law-enforcement are being real knuckleheads. E.g. the hairdresser/court in Texas, the sheriff in Arizona. Either have orders in place or don’t, but if you do, enforce them.