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youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:27 pm

ggait wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:51 pm

making certain that IF Biden did do something corrupt it gets shaken out before our US Election

Why would that be appropriate? Shouldn't that be an RNC oppo research operation rather than a goal of bi-partisanly appropriated tax payer dollars? Why does that have to be shaken out before the 2020 election?

There seemed to be zero interest from Trump or any other part of the govt regarding this during 2017 and 2018 (when Biden was gone, Trump was in office and UK getting aid). There's plenty of corrupt companies in UK beyond Burisma.

But come 2019, the focus is on exactly one UK company beyond all/any others. And in pursuit of that, WH meetings and aide get held up. And the person who was pushing all this on Trump was Rudy (assisted by Igor and Lev). Why didn't any of Trump's nat security types care about this before 2019. It's not like Bolton, Pompeo, Perry, Mulvaney, Tillerson, McMaster, etc. were pinko lefties in the tank for Biden. But no one cares about any of this except for Rudy and Trump. So Rudy is the only smart one out of the whole govt?

GOLDMAN: You would agree, right, that asking a foreign government to investigate a domestic political rival is inappropriate, would you not?
MORRISON: It’s not what we recommended the president discuss.
GOLDMAN: Were these references to Crowdstrike, the server, 2016 election and to [the Bidens], were they included in the president’s talking points?
MORRISON: They were not.
GOLDMAN: And were they consistent with ... official U.S. policy?
MORRISON: I was not aware of much of this.

So it is just a coincidence that the sole company focused on (per Trump and Rudy but which focus no one else shared) beginning in 2019 has a connection to the Dem nomination front runner?

If you really believe that, can I commence bridge sale negotiations with you? Because you seem very trusting...

You are making my point, as did Volker and Morrison. Their responses on inappropriate had to do with Ukraine Business as they saw it, hence the “eye roll comment by Volker”. Certainly no state policy would involve corruption investigation conversation. Trump was making certain he was just not going to follow same ole same ole policy and business as usual, especially follow 3 plus years of Ukraine dump.

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:43 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:33 pm God forbid Trump Administration does its due diligence in first, making certain new Ukraine President is trustworthy before we hand them Javelins, AND making certain that IF Biden did do something corrupt it gets shaken out before our US Election. That way he can not be blamed like some of the R's blame Obama for doing nothing on Russia and shipping cash overnight...althgough it was owed cash to Iran.

Let's buy your nonsense for a moment.

If this what you think happened, again: why did Trump and the R's release the funding to Ukraine?


Just say "I don't care that Trump did this", and spare us the nonsense. I'm fine with that position.

Least of all....you. You don't believe what you are selling.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:31 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:27 pm

ggait wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:51 pm

making certain that IF Biden did do something corrupt it gets shaken out before our US Election

Why would that be appropriate? Shouldn't that be an RNC oppo research operation rather than a goal of bi-partisanly appropriated tax payer dollars? Why does that have to be shaken out before the 2020 election?

There seemed to be zero interest from Trump or any other part of the govt regarding this during 2017 and 2018 (when Biden was gone, Trump was in office and UK getting aid). There's plenty of corrupt companies in UK beyond Burisma.

But come 2019, the focus is on exactly one UK company beyond all/any others. And in pursuit of that, WH meetings and aide get held up. And the person who was pushing all this on Trump was Rudy (assisted by Igor and Lev). Why didn't any of Trump's nat security types care about this before 2019. It's not like Bolton, Pompeo, Perry, Mulvaney, Tillerson, McMaster, etc. were pinko lefties in the tank for Biden. But no one cares about any of this except for Rudy and Trump. So Rudy is the only smart one out of the whole govt?

GOLDMAN: You would agree, right, that asking a foreign government to investigate a domestic political rival is inappropriate, would you not?
MORRISON: It’s not what we recommended the president discuss.
GOLDMAN: Were these references to Crowdstrike, the server, 2016 election and to [the Bidens], were they included in the president’s talking points?
MORRISON: They were not.
GOLDMAN: And were they consistent with ... official U.S. policy?
MORRISON: I was not aware of much of this.

So it is just a coincidence that the sole company focused on (per Trump and Rudy but which focus no one else shared) beginning in 2019 has a connection to the Dem nomination front runner?

If you really believe that, can I commence bridge sale negotiations with you? Because you seem very trusting...

You are making my point, as did Volker and Morrison. Their responses on inappropriate had to do with Ukraine Business as they saw it, hence the “eye roll comment by Volker”. Certainly no state policy would involve corruption investigation conversation. Trump was making certain he was just not going to follow same ole same ole policy and business as usual, especially follow 3 plus years of Ukraine dump.

Why not just set US Government Policy? Why wasn’t it documented? That’s how you run your business? Have guys not part of your company run point on a major project and nobody at the company knows about it? GTFOOH

youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:36 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:31 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:27 pm

ggait wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:51 pm

making certain that IF Biden did do something corrupt it gets shaken out before our US Election

Why would that be appropriate? Shouldn't that be an RNC oppo research operation rather than a goal of bi-partisanly appropriated tax payer dollars? Why does that have to be shaken out before the 2020 election?

There seemed to be zero interest from Trump or any other part of the govt regarding this during 2017 and 2018 (when Biden was gone, Trump was in office and UK getting aid). There's plenty of corrupt companies in UK beyond Burisma.

But come 2019, the focus is on exactly one UK company beyond all/any others. And in pursuit of that, WH meetings and aide get held up. And the person who was pushing all this on Trump was Rudy (assisted by Igor and Lev). Why didn't any of Trump's nat security types care about this before 2019. It's not like Bolton, Pompeo, Perry, Mulvaney, Tillerson, McMaster, etc. were pinko lefties in the tank for Biden. But no one cares about any of this except for Rudy and Trump. So Rudy is the only smart one out of the whole govt?

GOLDMAN: You would agree, right, that asking a foreign government to investigate a domestic political rival is inappropriate, would you not?
MORRISON: It’s not what we recommended the president discuss.
GOLDMAN: Were these references to Crowdstrike, the server, 2016 election and to [the Bidens], were they included in the president’s talking points?
MORRISON: They were not.
GOLDMAN: And were they consistent with ... official U.S. policy?
MORRISON: I was not aware of much of this.

So it is just a coincidence that the sole company focused on (per Trump and Rudy but which focus no one else shared) beginning in 2019 has a connection to the Dem nomination front runner?

If you really believe that, can I commence bridge sale negotiations with you? Because you seem very trusting...

You are making my point, as did Volker and Morrison. Their responses on inappropriate had to do with Ukraine Business as they saw it, hence the “eye roll comment by Volker”. Certainly no state policy would involve corruption investigation conversation. Trump was making certain he was just not going to follow same ole same ole policy and business as usual, especially follow 3 plus years of Ukraine dump.

Why not just set US Government Policy? Why wasn’t it documented? That’s how you run your business? Have guys not part of your company run point on a major project and nobody at the company knows about it? GTFOOH

GTFOOH? Why are so angry?

youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:39 pm Just haven’t seen you drop f-bombs before, that’s all.

Trump was making certain he was just not going to follow same ole same ole policy and business as usual

ggait wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:04 pm

Trump was making certain he was just not going to follow same ole same ole policy and business as usual

Come on YA.

All the pros in the govt were implementing an anti-corruption policy for UK. They all thought progress was being made. None of the dozens of pros were specifically focused on Burisma. The only folks who gave a rip specifically about Burisma were Trump, Rudy, Sondland, Lev and Igor. The irregular amateurs. And they focused on no other companies or investigations beyond Burisma and Crowdstrike.

So you really believe that that had nothing to do with Biden being the Dem front runner? And everything to do with Trump wanting to go above and beyond the pros as a UK anti-corruption fighter?

I'm literally laughing out loud as I type that. I just can't believe you really believe that. By the way, 70% of the country doesn't believe that.

ggait wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:04 pm

Trump was making certain he was just not going to follow same ole same ole policy and business as usual

Come on YA.

All the pros in the govt were implementing an anti-corruption policy for UK. They all thought progress was being made. None of the dozens of pros were specifically focused on Burisma. The only folks who gave a rip specifically about Burisma were Trump, Rudy, Sondland, Lev and Igor. The irregular amateurs. And they focused on no other companies or investigations beyond Burisma and Crowdstrike.

So you really believe that that had nothing to do with Biden being the Dem front runner? And everything to do with Trump wanting to go above and beyond the pros as a UK anti-corruption fighter?

I'm literally laughing out loud as I type that. I just can't believe you really believe that. By the way, 70% of the country doesn't believe that.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:07 pm

ggait wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:04 pm

Trump was making certain he was just not going to follow same ole same ole policy and business as usual

Come on YA.

All the pros in the govt were implementing an anti-corruption policy for UK. They all thought progress was being made. None of the dozens of pros were specifically focused on Burisma. The only folks who gave a rip specifically about Burisma were Trump, Rudy, Sondland, Lev and Igor. The irregular amateurs. And they focused on no other companies or investigations beyond Burisma and Crowdstrike.

So you really believe that that had nothing to do with Biden being the Dem front runner? And everything to do with Trump wanting to go above and beyond the pros as a UK anti-corruption fighter?

I'm literally laughing out loud as I type that. I just can't believe you really believe that. By the way, 70% of the country doesn't believe that.

ahhh, but 25% does think that, so YA does have company.
Pretty big % of Americans also think the moon landing was staged too.

I saw it yes. I also saw this....assuming you can view it. https://www.instagram.com/tv/B5EXhv-HYW ... 11ssq9bg26

youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:57 pm Agreed. I did hear on a couple talk radio shows when other retired officers called in that they thought it was smug for him to correct Nunes.

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:38 pm

Cooter wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:49 pm Yeah, as long as it's a fair investigation

To be clear: you're ok with a sitting President using the Executive Branch to open an investigation on a specific political rival during an election year?

So Obama could have had the IRS, the FBI, and the CIA to look into...and this is in no particular order..... Trump, Christie, Fiorina, Santorum, and Paul. Look into what they do domestically, as well as overseas?

And you're telling me, that's fine, so long as it's "a fair investigation".

Given that Biden is running for president, I actually think it is in the national interest to know whether Biden had misdoings or not in the Ukraine.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:17 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:57 pm Agreed. I did hear on a couple talk radio shows when other retired officers called in that they thought it was smug for him to correct Nunes.

Officious

Cooter wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:36 pm That seems a bit excessive.

Cooter wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:36 pm
Given that Biden is running for president, I actually think it is in the national interest to know whether Biden had misdoings or not in the Ukraine.