Re: 2020 Elections - Dems vs Trumpublicons
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:40 pm
This is the 2020 Election thread.
Same Party, Different House
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Very good post coaster. It get scary when the people who know trump and have interacted with him on this level come away with the same conclusions. Some pretty respected republican conservatives have been turned off by his attitude. Maybe he thinks running the country is just a longer episode of the apprentice.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:52 pm Another:
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/09/25/d ... ssion=true
Excerpt:
“In the summer of 1976, I was 14 years old and new to Colorado, my father took command of the Western Region’s National Guard. I enrolled in the brand-new Smoky Hill High School on what was then the far eastern boundary of Aurora. As a military brat, I was accustomed to moving around and not putting down roots — but as readers will know well, Colorado has a way of pulling on your heart and it became home. It remains so as my family spends as much time as possible in our Dillon residence.
Upon graduating from Cornell University, I joined the intelligence community as an analyst during President Ronald Reagan’s increasing investments in defense — a buildup that culminated in the collapse of the Soviet Union by the end of the decade. In my nearly four decades of service, I had the privilege of serving under six presidents — four Republican and two Democrat. The constant across all of those administrations was the oath I took to “protect and defend” the Constitution against “all enemies — foreign and domestic.”
I know what it takes to succeed at the highest levels of our government — intellectual curiosity, the strength of moral purpose and a commitment to selfless service. Broadly speaking, I can personally attest that Americans were very well served by those they elected to fill critical national security positions.
There is one important exception to that statement — our current president.
I have briefed him up close — and I have seen and felt the effect of his faults on our nation’s security. Out of respect for the confidential nature of Oval Office conversations, I will not provide details. Suffice to say that the person you see presiding over COVID-19 press conferences is the same one in the privacy of his office. He has little patience for facts or data that do not comport with his personal world view. Thus, the conversations are erratic and less than fully thoughtful.”
Sound like a guy you’d want to support?
i think it's going to someone pulling on social security!! maxed!!
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:16 pmVery good post coaster. It get scary when the people who know trump and have interacted with him on this level come away with the same conclusions. Some pretty respected republican conservatives have been turned off by his attitude. Maybe he thinks running the country is just a longer episode of the apprentice.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:52 pm Another:
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/09/25/d ... ssion=true
Excerpt:
“In the summer of 1976, I was 14 years old and new to Colorado, my father took command of the Western Region’s National Guard. I enrolled in the brand-new Smoky Hill High School on what was then the far eastern boundary of Aurora. As a military brat, I was accustomed to moving around and not putting down roots — but as readers will know well, Colorado has a way of pulling on your heart and it became home. It remains so as my family spends as much time as possible in our Dillon residence.
Upon graduating from Cornell University, I joined the intelligence community as an analyst during President Ronald Reagan’s increasing investments in defense — a buildup that culminated in the collapse of the Soviet Union by the end of the decade. In my nearly four decades of service, I had the privilege of serving under six presidents — four Republican and two Democrat. The constant across all of those administrations was the oath I took to “protect and defend” the Constitution against “all enemies — foreign and domestic.”
I know what it takes to succeed at the highest levels of our government — intellectual curiosity, the strength of moral purpose and a commitment to selfless service. Broadly speaking, I can personally attest that Americans were very well served by those they elected to fill critical national security positions.
There is one important exception to that statement — our current president.
I have briefed him up close — and I have seen and felt the effect of his faults on our nation’s security. Out of respect for the confidential nature of Oval Office conversations, I will not provide details. Suffice to say that the person you see presiding over COVID-19 press conferences is the same one in the privacy of his office. He has little patience for facts or data that do not comport with his personal world view. Thus, the conversations are erratic and less than fully thoughtful.”
Sound like a guy you’d want to support?
Something is wrong when he keeps hacking off the people that are on his side. I don't get it. You remember the praise he heaped on Gen Mattis. Now he speaks of him in a terribly disrespectful manner. Gen Mattis does not deserve to be talked down to in that manner. If trump has nothing good to say about his own people that he throws to the curb, he should not say anything at all. Very dumb and will never play well with America's veterans. It does not play very well with this old soldier.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:28 pmcradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:16 pmVery good post coaster. It get scary when the people who know trump and have interacted with him on this level come away with the same conclusions. Some pretty respected republican conservatives have been turned off by his attitude. Maybe he thinks running the country is just a longer episode of the apprentice.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:52 pm Another:
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/09/25/d ... ssion=true
Excerpt:
“In the summer of 1976, I was 14 years old and new to Colorado, my father took command of the Western Region’s National Guard. I enrolled in the brand-new Smoky Hill High School on what was then the far eastern boundary of Aurora. As a military brat, I was accustomed to moving around and not putting down roots — but as readers will know well, Colorado has a way of pulling on your heart and it became home. It remains so as my family spends as much time as possible in our Dillon residence.
Upon graduating from Cornell University, I joined the intelligence community as an analyst during President Ronald Reagan’s increasing investments in defense — a buildup that culminated in the collapse of the Soviet Union by the end of the decade. In my nearly four decades of service, I had the privilege of serving under six presidents — four Republican and two Democrat. The constant across all of those administrations was the oath I took to “protect and defend” the Constitution against “all enemies — foreign and domestic.”
I know what it takes to succeed at the highest levels of our government — intellectual curiosity, the strength of moral purpose and a commitment to selfless service. Broadly speaking, I can personally attest that Americans were very well served by those they elected to fill critical national security positions.
There is one important exception to that statement — our current president.
I have briefed him up close — and I have seen and felt the effect of his faults on our nation’s security. Out of respect for the confidential nature of Oval Office conversations, I will not provide details. Suffice to say that the person you see presiding over COVID-19 press conferences is the same one in the privacy of his office. He has little patience for facts or data that do not comport with his personal world view. Thus, the conversations are erratic and less than fully thoughtful.”
Sound like a guy you’d want to support?
Like with anyone in life, you take the bad with the good.
The bad of Trump is he's not a very good human being; and occasionally, like this guy who wrote the article, that stinks because Trump shouldn't alienate decent people.
The good is he hacks off all the right people.
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:35 pmSomething is wrong when he keeps hacking off the people that are on his side. I don't get it. You remember the praise he heaped on Gen Mattis. Now he speaks of him in a terribly disrespectful manner. Gen Mattis does not deserve to be talked down to in that manner. If trump has nothing good to say about his own people that he throws to the curb, he should not say anything at all. Very dumb and will never play well with America's veterans. It does not play very well with this old soldier.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:28 pmLike with anyone in life, you take the bad with the good.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:16 pmVery good post coaster. It get scary when the people who know trump and have interacted with him on this level come away with the same conclusions. Some pretty respected republican conservatives have been turned off by his attitude. Maybe he thinks running the country is just a longer episode of the apprentice.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:52 pm Another:
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/09/25/d ... ssion=true
Excerpt:
“In the summer of 1976, I was 14 years old and new to Colorado, my father took command of the Western Region’s National Guard. I enrolled in the brand-new Smoky Hill High School on what was then the far eastern boundary of Aurora. As a military brat, I was accustomed to moving around and not putting down roots — but as readers will know well, Colorado has a way of pulling on your heart and it became home. It remains so as my family spends as much time as possible in our Dillon residence.
Upon graduating from Cornell University, I joined the intelligence community as an analyst during President Ronald Reagan’s increasing investments in defense — a buildup that culminated in the collapse of the Soviet Union by the end of the decade. In my nearly four decades of service, I had the privilege of serving under six presidents — four Republican and two Democrat. The constant across all of those administrations was the oath I took to “protect and defend” the Constitution against “all enemies — foreign and domestic.”
I know what it takes to succeed at the highest levels of our government — intellectual curiosity, the strength of moral purpose and a commitment to selfless service. Broadly speaking, I can personally attest that Americans were very well served by those they elected to fill critical national security positions.
There is one important exception to that statement — our current president.
I have briefed him up close — and I have seen and felt the effect of his faults on our nation’s security. Out of respect for the confidential nature of Oval Office conversations, I will not provide details. Suffice to say that the person you see presiding over COVID-19 press conferences is the same one in the privacy of his office. He has little patience for facts or data that do not comport with his personal world view. Thus, the conversations are erratic and less than fully thoughtful.”
Sound like a guy you’d want to support?
The bad of Trump is he's not a very good human being; and occasionally, like this guy who wrote the article, that stinks because Trump shouldn't alienate decent people.
The good is he hacks off all the right people.
IMO it is a problem for trump when he treats his own people as bad as he treats his opponents. He has burned bridges with some very good people who apparently made the mistake of giving him advice he disagreed with. You either expect and demand honesty from your own people or you hire a bunch of kiss arses that tell you what you want to hear.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:40 pmcradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:35 pmSomething is wrong when he keeps hacking off the people that are on his side. I don't get it. You remember the praise he heaped on Gen Mattis. Now he speaks of him in a terribly disrespectful manner. Gen Mattis does not deserve to be talked down to in that manner. If trump has nothing good to say about his own people that he throws to the curb, he should not say anything at all. Very dumb and will never play well with America's veterans. It does not play very well with this old soldier.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:28 pmLike with anyone in life, you take the bad with the good.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:16 pmVery good post coaster. It get scary when the people who know trump and have interacted with him on this level come away with the same conclusions. Some pretty respected republican conservatives have been turned off by his attitude. Maybe he thinks running the country is just a longer episode of the apprentice.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:52 pm Another:
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/09/25/d ... ssion=true
Excerpt:
“In the summer of 1976, I was 14 years old and new to Colorado, my father took command of the Western Region’s National Guard. I enrolled in the brand-new Smoky Hill High School on what was then the far eastern boundary of Aurora. As a military brat, I was accustomed to moving around and not putting down roots — but as readers will know well, Colorado has a way of pulling on your heart and it became home. It remains so as my family spends as much time as possible in our Dillon residence.
Upon graduating from Cornell University, I joined the intelligence community as an analyst during President Ronald Reagan’s increasing investments in defense — a buildup that culminated in the collapse of the Soviet Union by the end of the decade. In my nearly four decades of service, I had the privilege of serving under six presidents — four Republican and two Democrat. The constant across all of those administrations was the oath I took to “protect and defend” the Constitution against “all enemies — foreign and domestic.”
I know what it takes to succeed at the highest levels of our government — intellectual curiosity, the strength of moral purpose and a commitment to selfless service. Broadly speaking, I can personally attest that Americans were very well served by those they elected to fill critical national security positions.
There is one important exception to that statement — our current president.
I have briefed him up close — and I have seen and felt the effect of his faults on our nation’s security. Out of respect for the confidential nature of Oval Office conversations, I will not provide details. Suffice to say that the person you see presiding over COVID-19 press conferences is the same one in the privacy of his office. He has little patience for facts or data that do not comport with his personal world view. Thus, the conversations are erratic and less than fully thoughtful.”
Sound like a guy you’d want to support?
The bad of Trump is he's not a very good human being; and occasionally, like this guy who wrote the article, that stinks because Trump shouldn't alienate decent people.
The good is he hacks off all the right people.
We all agree. His mouth earns him enemies he doesn't even need to make. It's his actions that I focus on, not his words.
And for actions, Trump's opponent plays 'footsie' with Antifa and BLM as they rampage through American cities. Kamala is out here raising money to bail out rapists and murderers, after previously asking judges to keep marijuana users in prison past their sentences because their labor was cheap!
It's always a choice.
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:46 pmIMO it is a problem for trump when he treats his own people as bad as he treats his opponents. He has burned bridges with some very good people who apparently made the mistake of giving him advice he disagreed with. You either expect and demand honesty from your own people or you hire a bunch of kiss arses that tell you what you want to hear.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:40 pmcradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:35 pmSomething is wrong when he keeps hacking off the people that are on his side. I don't get it. You remember the praise he heaped on Gen Mattis. Now he speaks of him in a terribly disrespectful manner. Gen Mattis does not deserve to be talked down to in that manner. If trump has nothing good to say about his own people that he throws to the curb, he should not say anything at all. Very dumb and will never play well with America's veterans. It does not play very well with this old soldier.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:28 pmLike with anyone in life, you take the bad with the good.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:16 pmVery good post coaster. It get scary when the people who know trump and have interacted with him on this level come away with the same conclusions. Some pretty respected republican conservatives have been turned off by his attitude. Maybe he thinks running the country is just a longer episode of the apprentice.seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:52 pm Another:
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/09/25/d ... ssion=true
Excerpt:
“In the summer of 1976, I was 14 years old and new to Colorado, my father took command of the Western Region’s National Guard. I enrolled in the brand-new Smoky Hill High School on what was then the far eastern boundary of Aurora. As a military brat, I was accustomed to moving around and not putting down roots — but as readers will know well, Colorado has a way of pulling on your heart and it became home. It remains so as my family spends as much time as possible in our Dillon residence.
Upon graduating from Cornell University, I joined the intelligence community as an analyst during President Ronald Reagan’s increasing investments in defense — a buildup that culminated in the collapse of the Soviet Union by the end of the decade. In my nearly four decades of service, I had the privilege of serving under six presidents — four Republican and two Democrat. The constant across all of those administrations was the oath I took to “protect and defend” the Constitution against “all enemies — foreign and domestic.”
I know what it takes to succeed at the highest levels of our government — intellectual curiosity, the strength of moral purpose and a commitment to selfless service. Broadly speaking, I can personally attest that Americans were very well served by those they elected to fill critical national security positions.
There is one important exception to that statement — our current president.
I have briefed him up close — and I have seen and felt the effect of his faults on our nation’s security. Out of respect for the confidential nature of Oval Office conversations, I will not provide details. Suffice to say that the person you see presiding over COVID-19 press conferences is the same one in the privacy of his office. He has little patience for facts or data that do not comport with his personal world view. Thus, the conversations are erratic and less than fully thoughtful.”
Sound like a guy you’d want to support?
The bad of Trump is he's not a very good human being; and occasionally, like this guy who wrote the article, that stinks because Trump shouldn't alienate decent people.
The good is he hacks off all the right people.
We all agree. His mouth earns him enemies he doesn't even need to make. It's his actions that I focus on, not his words.
And for actions, Trump's opponent plays 'footsie' with Antifa and BLM as they rampage through American cities. Kamala is out here raising money to bail out rapists and murderers, after previously asking judges to keep marijuana users in prison past their sentences because their labor was cheap!
It's always a choice.
For some people here, that would be a resounding YES!seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:52 pm Another:
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/09/25/d ... ssion=true
Excerpt:
“In the summer of 1976, I was 14 years old and new to Colorado, my father took command of the Western Region’s National Guard. I enrolled in the brand-new Smoky Hill High School on what was then the far eastern boundary of Aurora. As a military brat, I was accustomed to moving around and not putting down roots — but as readers will know well, Colorado has a way of pulling on your heart and it became home. It remains so as my family spends as much time as possible in our Dillon residence.
Upon graduating from Cornell University, I joined the intelligence community as an analyst during President Ronald Reagan’s increasing investments in defense — a buildup that culminated in the collapse of the Soviet Union by the end of the decade. In my nearly four decades of service, I had the privilege of serving under six presidents — four Republican and two Democrat. The constant across all of those administrations was the oath I took to “protect and defend” the Constitution against “all enemies — foreign and domestic.”
I know what it takes to succeed at the highest levels of our government — intellectual curiosity, the strength of moral purpose and a commitment to selfless service. Broadly speaking, I can personally attest that Americans were very well served by those they elected to fill critical national security positions.
There is one important exception to that statement — our current president.
I have briefed him up close — and I have seen and felt the effect of his faults on our nation’s security. Out of respect for the confidential nature of Oval Office conversations, I will not provide details. Suffice to say that the person you see presiding over COVID-19 press conferences is the same one in the privacy of his office. He has little patience for facts or data that do not comport with his personal world view. Thus, the conversations are erratic and less than fully thoughtful.”
Sound like a guy you’d want to support?
ardilla secreta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:09 pmFor some people here, that would be a resounding YES!seacoaster wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:52 pm Another:
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/09/25/d ... ssion=true
Excerpt:
“In the summer of 1976, I was 14 years old and new to Colorado, my father took command of the Western Region’s National Guard. I enrolled in the brand-new Smoky Hill High School on what was then the far eastern boundary of Aurora. As a military brat, I was accustomed to moving around and not putting down roots — but as readers will know well, Colorado has a way of pulling on your heart and it became home. It remains so as my family spends as much time as possible in our Dillon residence.
Upon graduating from Cornell University, I joined the intelligence community as an analyst during President Ronald Reagan’s increasing investments in defense — a buildup that culminated in the collapse of the Soviet Union by the end of the decade. In my nearly four decades of service, I had the privilege of serving under six presidents — four Republican and two Democrat. The constant across all of those administrations was the oath I took to “protect and defend” the Constitution against “all enemies — foreign and domestic.”
I know what it takes to succeed at the highest levels of our government — intellectual curiosity, the strength of moral purpose and a commitment to selfless service. Broadly speaking, I can personally attest that Americans were very well served by those they elected to fill critical national security positions.
There is one important exception to that statement — our current president.
I have briefed him up close — and I have seen and felt the effect of his faults on our nation’s security. Out of respect for the confidential nature of Oval Office conversations, I will not provide details. Suffice to say that the person you see presiding over COVID-19 press conferences is the same one in the privacy of his office. He has little patience for facts or data that do not comport with his personal world view. Thus, the conversations are erratic and less than fully thoughtful.”
Sound like a guy you’d want to support?
Oh those terrible cheating democrats. Turns out it was a poorly trained temp worker who mistakenly tossed the ballots, who was let go a week ago. But of course the republiCON DOJ made a press release that should have never been made. The county press release that explains the situation claim they were not aware that the ballots were cast for Trump until the FBI press release!!! This was pure and simple improper partisan DOJ behavior.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:04 am Right, I am going to just believe this. Nothing suspicious about this press release and story. Smells like a republican dirty trick.
jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:35 pmOh those terrible cheating democrats. Turns out it was a poorly trained temp worker who mistakenly tossed the ballots, who was let go a week ago. But of course the republiCON DOJ made a press release that should have never been made. The county press release that explains the situation claim they were not aware that the ballots were cast for Trump until the FBI press release!!! This was pure and simple improper partisan DOJ behavior.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:04 am Right, I am going to just believe this. Nothing suspicious about this press release and story. Smells like a republican dirty trick.
This is so obvious an attempt by the republiCONs to make the argument that there is all kinds of mail in ballot fraud going on, specifically in Pennsylvania. They were military ballots, only 9 of them, 7 for Trump and there was no chance that the ballots were not going to be counted assuming they followed all the rules for submission of ballots. A number of days worth of trash searched and only 9 found, not hundreds, not thousands, etc., as being spun by the rightwing scumbag press and their followers.
And Barr briefed Trump on the effort _before_ the weird releases started. Clearly an attempt to use the mechanisms of power in the DOJ to put a heavy thumb on the scale, that really seems to be getting exposed for exactly what it is.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:35 pmOh those terrible cheating democrats. Turns out it was a poorly trained temp worker who mistakenly tossed the ballots, who was let go a week ago. But of course the republiCON DOJ made a press release that should have never been made. The county press release that explains the situation claim they were not aware that the ballots were cast for Trump until the FBI press release!!! This was pure and simple improper partisan DOJ behavior.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:04 am Right, I am going to just believe this. Nothing suspicious about this press release and story. Smells like a republican dirty trick.
This is so obvious an attempt by the republiCONs to make the argument that there is all kinds of mail in ballot fraud going on, specifically in Pennsylvania. They were military ballots, only 9 of them, 7 for Trump and there was no chance that the ballots were not going to be counted assuming they followed all the rules for submission of ballots. A number of days worth of trash searched and only 9 found, not hundreds, not thousands, etc., as being spun by the rightwing scumbag press and their followers.
Pete, people are saying this temp worker was a Trump operative who pulled this stunt to try to stir up trouble. Seems to have Roger Stone's fingerprints all over it.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:00 pmjhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:35 pmOh those terrible cheating democrats. Turns out it was a poorly trained temp worker who mistakenly tossed the ballots, who was let go a week ago. But of course the republiCON DOJ made a press release that should have never been made. The county press release that explains the situation claim they were not aware that the ballots were cast for Trump until the FBI press release!!! This was pure and simple improper partisan DOJ behavior.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:04 am Right, I am going to just believe this. Nothing suspicious about this press release and story. Smells like a republican dirty trick.
This is so obvious an attempt by the republiCONs to make the argument that there is all kinds of mail in ballot fraud going on, specifically in Pennsylvania. They were military ballots, only 9 of them, 7 for Trump and there was no chance that the ballots were not going to be counted assuming they followed all the rules for submission of ballots. A number of days worth of trash searched and only 9 found, not hundreds, not thousands, etc., as being spun by the rightwing scumbag press and their followers.
In Philadelphia, voter turnout in 20 of the wards was 97 percent and greater. That is 97 percent of the bloated voter rolls that probably include dead people. Zombies are in these days, and in Philadelphia, they vote.
In 59 Philadelphia precincts, Mitt Romney received no votes. Zero. If you total up just those precincts, Obama won with over 19,000 votes to nothing for Romney.
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2012/11/ ... ladelphia/
njbill wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:18 pmPete, people are saying this temp worker was a Trump operative who pulled this stunt to try to stir up trouble. Seems to have Roger Stone's fingerprints all over it.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:00 pmjhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:35 pmOh those terrible cheating democrats. Turns out it was a poorly trained temp worker who mistakenly tossed the ballots, who was let go a week ago. But of course the republiCON DOJ made a press release that should have never been made. The county press release that explains the situation claim they were not aware that the ballots were cast for Trump until the FBI press release!!! This was pure and simple improper partisan DOJ behavior.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:04 am Right, I am going to just believe this. Nothing suspicious about this press release and story. Smells like a republican dirty trick.
This is so obvious an attempt by the republiCONs to make the argument that there is all kinds of mail in ballot fraud going on, specifically in Pennsylvania. They were military ballots, only 9 of them, 7 for Trump and there was no chance that the ballots were not going to be counted assuming they followed all the rules for submission of ballots. A number of days worth of trash searched and only 9 found, not hundreds, not thousands, etc., as being spun by the rightwing scumbag press and their followers.
In Philadelphia, voter turnout in 20 of the wards was 97 percent and greater. That is 97 percent of the bloated voter rolls that probably include dead people. Zombies are in these days, and in Philadelphia, they vote.
In 59 Philadelphia precincts, Mitt Romney received no votes. Zero. If you total up just those precincts, Obama won with over 19,000 votes to nothing for Romney.
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2012/11/ ... ladelphia/
And just how did the info about the ballots being cast for Trump leak out? Pretty obvious.
The whole entire military?